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November 12, 2024

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110 comments:

Lem Vibe Bandit said...: Headline: "Pentagon leaker Jack Teixeira sentenced to 15 years on federal charges"

Compared to the sentenced J6, Teixeira got a light sentence.; 11/12/24, 5:37 PM
lonejustice said...: Photo #3 should be in a Monet painting museum.; 11/12/24, 5:42 PM
tastid212 said...: Whoa, Meade!; 11/12/24, 6:01 PM
Yancey Ward said...: Yeah, the photo is beautiful- oddly colorful.; 11/12/24, 6:01 PM
walter said...: Watching some Demwits on Farcebait expressing concerns over Trump threatened tariffs and inflation. One even just learned Trump used tariffs previously and certain things got more expensive. They want to "Trump-proof" their purchases by buying early. Have they not realized the cumulative inflation under team Pedo Pete? The "transitory" inflation?
Oh..that's different; 11/12/24, 6:12 PM
Jaq said...: So I saw something today driving up I-89 through New Hampshire, a hawk perched on the carcass of a road-killed deer. At least I assume that the hawk isn't what killed the deer. I never knew that hawks would eat carrion. I know that in Alaska, bald eagles are known as "dumpster chickens," but I thought better of hawks.; 11/12/24, 6:23 PM
Jaq said...: This is what the two parties think about higher wages in the US.

Democrats: Disaster for America!
Republicans: America, what a country!

Tariffs are intended to bring production home, resulting in higher wages for American workers. Unrestricted immigration is intended to force wages down for American workers.

So when somebody complains about inflation due to higher wages to workers, I just say "too bad, so sad. If you want less inflation, stop printing money and handing it out to big political donors."

A study was done by a French economist of cases where gold deposits were found in various kingdoms throughout history. Did all the subjects of the king benefit? Why no, amazing you should ask, the friends of the king benefited, and the commoners just suffered higher prices. There is a lesson in there, Democrats.; 11/12/24, 6:29 PM
Temujin said...: Hi Wisconsin.
Anyone care to offer insight into this:
https://x.com/EricHovde/status/1856444700707958981; 11/12/24, 6:37 PM
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Temujin said...: One more time. With feeling:
Wisconsin Senate Seat in question?.; 11/12/24, 6:40 PM
Lem Vibe Bandit said...: The Dem's talk about replacing Sotomayor as if she was dying.

I don't remember them talking like that while Saint RBG was alive. They talk about Justice Sotomayor as thought she was an Oscar seat filler. Where is the respect and dignity?; 11/12/24, 6:41 PM
Mr Wibble said...: Happy Exploding Whale Day to all who celebrate! Go put on your whale hats and light off some m80s and eat some cake.; 11/12/24, 6:43 PM
Peachy said...: wow. Democrats are just... horrid.; 11/12/24, 6:45 PM
Peachy said...: " I asked President Biden if he thinks that he can get a hostage deal done by the end of his term. He answered, commenting on the number of cameramen in the room: “do you think that you can get hit in the head by the camera behind you?”; 11/12/24, 6:47 PM
Lem Vibe Bandit said...: Trump taps the youngest Def Sec in memory. It follows that he doesn't plan to test him much. Peace.; 11/12/24, 6:56 PM
narciso said...: Great foliage; 11/12/24, 7:10 PM
Jaq said...: "BREAKING: GERMANY declares early elections "ARE NOT LIKELY FEASIBLE" due to a shortage of paper, amid German economic crisis." - via X

They have to put off their elections "to protect democracy," I can hear it already.; 11/12/24, 7:12 PM
Drago said...: On the contrary, completely recalibrating the Pentagon and focus of the military on lethality as well as a global reorientation of our forces towads the ChiComs (not Russia) is an astonishingly big ask......and absolutely necessary as well as unavoidable.

It is time to clear out the Pentagon deadwood and far left generals and admirals (see the upcoming "Warrior Boards").

Did you know we have more flag officers now than we did in WW2?

So, again, this tasking could indeed be the biggest "test" of an incoming SecDef in the last 60 years.; 11/12/24, 7:15 PM
Drago said...: "Tariffs are intended to bring production home, resulting in higher wages for American workers. Unrestricted immigration is intended to force wages down for American workers."

Precisely, and cannot be repeated enough.; 11/12/24, 7:17 PM
Dixcus said...: And they don't realize that Americans are WILLING to pay higher prices to make their friends and neighbors have jobs. Everybody benefits in an economy in which we are ALL participating for the benefit of EACH OTHER.

Not like Democrats, where it's every man for themselves ... with the privileged few getting the million dollar bribes for their endorsements.; 11/12/24, 7:19 PM
NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...: She's the original DEI hire. There never was any intent to show her any respect and seat filler is an apt description.; 11/12/24, 7:21 PM
Dixcus said...: "Nothing wasted." - The Animal Kingdom; 11/12/24, 7:21 PM
Kakistocracy said...: Relatively run of the mill GOP for National Security positions also is a relief for NATO; obviously the pressure will be on Europe to start caring for its own security vs Russia but the suggested picks aren't radical.; 11/12/24, 7:21 PM
Dixcus said...: Yes. Democrats are stealing elections wherever they are allowed to without fear of getting shot in their fking faces.; 11/12/24, 7:22 PM
Dixcus said...: They will murder her if she doesn't do what they want. Didn't Trump's two assassination attempts teach these people anything?; 11/12/24, 7:25 PM
Iman said...: I took a nap and had a dream that Pete Hegseth was named Sec Def.; 11/12/24, 7:27 PM
Jersey Fled said...: People still don’t understand Trump. The value of tariffs is not in enforcing them, but in threatening to enforce them. Or in some cases, removing them.

They are chips in the game of negotiation.; 11/12/24, 7:30 PM
Original Mike said...: "And they don't realize that Americans are WILLING to pay higher prices to make their friends and neighbors have jobs. Everybody benefits in an economy in which we are ALL participating for the benefit of EACH OTHER."

I am. We need to bring industry home. It's good for jobs and it's important for our security. Lowest price is not the highest good.; 11/12/24, 7:30 PM
Peachy said...: The dems forced Breyer out - he didn't even really retire.
Still - I don't think they have time.; 11/12/24, 7:35 PM
Clyde said...: Definitely some wild color there.; 11/12/24, 7:35 PM
Kakistocracy said...: Tariffs are a way to tax American consumers, not on the exporters. Tariffs damage America far more as exporters start to ignore America. America then cannot compete anywhere else. Trump's proposed general tariff against China will almost certainly result in retaliatory tariffs against US agricultural exports to China, which will hurt Trump's rural base disproportionally hard. Big business will also resist them.

Having seen Trump's comments on tariffs and his views on who will pay them, it is fairly clear he doesn't understand how they actually work. He seems to think they would be paid by foreign companies, and not as is the case, by US companies who import goods from abroad. That someone standing to be President has such little understanding of his key policy platform really should be more widely reported..; 11/12/24, 7:38 PM
Jersey Fled said...: Sotomayer was the prototype for Harris. Someone who looked the part but would do what she was told.; 11/12/24, 7:41 PM
Clyde said...: "Ve cannot chop down ze trees to make ze paper, because ze carbon credits cost too much. No paper, no ballots, no election. Es tut mir leid."; 11/12/24, 7:41 PM
Jaq said...: Party that uses "bro" as an insult surprised when they lose male voters. Film at 11.; 11/12/24, 7:46 PM
Original Mike said...: I think the only thing that could gain traction is if there really are precincts that have more votes than registered voters.

You can see the big step function in democrat votes in this graph. I wondered about it at the time.; 11/12/24, 7:56 PM
n.n said...: Tariffs compensate for labor, environmental, and monetary arbitrage schemes.; 11/12/24, 8:12 PM
320Busdriver said...: ~50% of Milwaukee votes on Election Day were same day registrations??
Normal numbers ~10%
WTActualF; 11/12/24, 8:17 PM
320Busdriver said...: This is almost better than last Tuesday night…; 11/12/24, 8:18 PM
Dixcus said...: So far, no men wearing dresses they stole from airport carousels in Trump's cabinet.

Who will be first?; 11/12/24, 8:34 PM
Christopher B said...: They probably have enough paper to start a fire in their legislature though; 11/12/24, 8:51 PM
Christopher B said...: Kentucky had some that pink-orange in the sunset last night ... made for a clear but chilly day setting up Christmas decorations.; 11/12/24, 8:53 PM
William said...: I don't know all that much about tariffs, or where to draw borders in eastern Europe, or how to negotiate a just peace with religious fanatics. Here's one thing I'm sure about, however. Harris or whoever managed her campaign fund mismanaged her campaign fund. I just heard that the Reverend Al scooped up a half million for his services. I bet Harris's brother in law is a set designer and put up that $100,000 set--the one with two shelves..... The larger scandal, though, isn't that it was mismanaged. The larger scandal is that it's not a larger scandal. I haven't seen any notice of this in the mainstream news and all those billionaires who ponied up large chunks of cash seem sedate about how their funds were distributed. Rank and file Democrats don't seem especially disturbed either.; 11/12/24, 9:27 PM
Joe Smith said...: Just spent almost a week in Wisconsin. Beautiful state...very green. Very flat-ish. Weird not seeing even small hills on the horizon. Super friendly people. Great food. Love the brandy old fashioneds. Grocery store prices are super cheap compared to CA. As is gas. Supper clubs are a blast..old-school in the very best way. Nice place to live but too cold for me : ); 11/12/24, 9:40 PM
planetgeo said...: Ok, what's the deal? It's been 7 days already and still no Cabinet position for Tulsi?; 11/12/24, 9:47 PM
The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...: “Having seen Trump's comments on tariffs and his views on who will pay them, it is fairly clear he doesn't understand how they actually work. He seems to think they would be paid by foreign companies, and not as is the case, by US companies who import goods from abroad. That someone standing to be President has such little understanding of his key policy platform really should be more widely reported..”

Hmmm, kind of like taxing corporations, huh?

As someone else observed, tariffs are a negotiating tool. Or a way to keep something ruinous out, like Chinese EV’s.; 11/12/24, 10:10 PM
wildswan said...: Temujin
Here is what Eric Hovde is up against. The statistics for absentee ballots show that on the night of November 5th in the City of Milwaukee 108,398 absentee ballots had been sent in. These are the possible "shenanigan" ballots from drop boxes and vote harvesting and so on . These are the ballots that Hovde is talking about when he says at 4 in the morning 108,000 ballots from Milwaukee suddenly dropped all at once and these ballots did not break almost 50/50 like the rest of the election. They were 80/20 for Baldwin. But there are two problems with any theories. First, that split is an improvement on the past. Second, the mail-in absentee ballots cannot be checked. My electronic ballot can be checked because it also did a printout out of how I voted while I stood there ( and that printout then went into a box so that those totals can be checked right down to machine level.) Not so with mail-in absentee ballots. There's nothing to match the mail-in envelope and certification stuff with the actual vote. So many envelopes, so many ballots - that's all you can know. In other words, even if you tracked the envelope back and asked the person if they voted and they were dead so you you knew they hadn't, you still wouldn't be able to prove which votes were connected with the dead voters. Or, more realistically, if you were able to show that the mail-in vote certifications were all in the same few sets of handwriting and that the handwriting was that of Dem operatives who lived in the vicinity of drop boxes and that they had all suddenly developed carpal tunnel syndrome -- well then, that would be evidence that something MIGHT have substantially affected the vote. Non-lawyers might even "know" what happened. But it wouldn't be proof in a court of law because you couldn't show which particular votes were real and which were not. It's like the presumption of innocence - a vote is presumed real till you can show it is not. So that's why you see Hovde indignant but cautious.

There is a statistical argument I like to make which is based on the fact that address turnover in Milwaukee City is very high but the voter rolls keep everyone who has ever registered. Consequently it is impossible for precincts to have 90% or more of their registered voters voting legally. It's certain that 30% or more of the registered voters don't live in that precinct any more. Milwaukee City is filled with renters and renters change adresses more frequently than homeowners. In fact, there were university studies on how this address turnover upsets school children who have to keep moving. So you can prive address turnover. And then you just point out the refusal to clean up the voting rolls - and there you are.

Yes, there you are with the same thing just going on and on. Then the schools stay bad. Taxes stay high. The universities have their sneaky lttile tenure ploys which result in Wisconsin citizens who are conservative being excluded from institutions they support with their taxes. Then the conservative citizens get indignant and vote. And so what. Milwaukee does whatever and the whole state sinks back into its mess. We really are just garbage to Madison.
I have dream - someday we'll have the Donald Trump of Wisconsin who will see his way through it all. What are we without our dreams?; 11/12/24, 10:40 PM
Drago said...: Pay no attention to LLR-democratical and kamala-fanboy Rich. He just cuts and pastes content he doesnt understand.

Its really quite embarrassing. Its his ignorance on topic after topic that makes it impossible for him to understand how transparently obvious it is to everyone else that he is an idiot.; 11/12/24, 10:54 PM
LuAnn Zieman said...: Wildswan--It is not correct that mailed-in absentee ballots can't be linked to a particular voter. I was an election inspector who cast the absentee ballots on election day. Absentee voters are listed in the poll book just as are in-person voters. When the ballot is put into the machine, that ballot (and voter) is given the next number in order of cast ballots and recorded in the poll book next to the person's name with a red A for absentee. The envelope from which the ballot was removed is placed in a separate bag which is also sent to the central command. The name of the voter is on that envelope as well.; 11/12/24, 11:37 PM
Rt41Rebel said...: Hey Dums, in 1982, Joe Walsh presciently wrote of the last four years and the election you now suffer. Listen and learn.

There's a master plan, or so they say
I'm a patient man, s'il vous plait
And if what you earn, and what you deserve
Isn't worth the price you pay
Save it for a rainy day
I'm a patient man

So you made a wish on a falling star, that's what you got
Oh-o, and here you are, like it or not
And the truth is everyone else
Shares the same cloudy sky
It's so useless, blaming yourself
Heaven knows you try

And if it takes until the rivers run dry
'Til the rivers run dry
If it takes all the rest of my life to see why
I'm going to wait until the rivers run dry
'Til the rivers run

Save 'em for a rainy day

And if it takes until the rivers run dry
'Til the rivers run dry; 11/13/24, 12:24 AM
Big Mike said...: Now we now why Ben Wikler, who heads Democrat operations in Wisconsin, is be proposed to lead the party nationally.

But Althouse assures us that he was such a sweet kid when he was in high school.; 11/13/24, 12:40 AM
Big Mike said...: Marn’i Washington, the disgraced FEMA supervisor who was fired after being caught directing workers to bypass homes displaying political signs supporting Trump, has lawyered up and offers a defense that is as old as the hills and hollers of western North Carolina: everybody does it. Except she claims to have the receipts. It wouldn’t surprise me that the Biden administration has chosen to politically weaponize disaster response in this country — the guy at the top is notorious for his mean streak, and his appointee Alejandro Mayorkus, seems cut from the same cloth. Kristi Noem has her work cut out for her to clean up the mess those two are leaving behind.; 11/13/24, 1:00 AM
Big Mike said...: Count me as being fully on board both with the concept of the Department of Government Efficiency and with the people Donald Trump has proposed to lead it.; 11/13/24, 1:13 AM
rehajm said...: I’ve seen hawks at a carcass before. Opportunists like the rest of em. In the Back Bay we used to have hawk family perch on our balcony once in a while. They left our neighbors a bunch if plucked feathers from their dinner once. I heard rumor the biggest killer of juvenile hawks is lack of hunting skills. They starve to death…; 11/13/24, 1:59 AM
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wendybar said...: Jesse Kelly
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The Right should not forget or forgive the evils of the Biden Administration in our post-election euphoria.

These people committed serious crimes against the American people. They used our government in ways it has never been used before. That cannot ever happen again.
11:32 AM · Nov 12, 2024

Kurt Nimphius' Hair
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The FEMA scandal from last week is basically a reminder. The woman who was fired is singing like a canary.

She's not going down by herself.
11:48 AM · Nov 12, 2024

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Agreed. In particular, their ongoing persecution of J6ers. Or have we forgotten that there are STILL people being detained and tortured - who haven't been to trial yet? Are we so euphoric and distracted while the Biden regime continues to prosecute and persecute us?; 11/13/24, 2:12 AM
rehajm said...: …like rent control or communism it is one if those things civilization realized was a failure back in the 19th and 20th centuries but new people believe those dullards back then just didn’t do it right…; 11/13/24, 2:13 AM
rehajm said...: I do miss fall very much. The colors of course but the sound of fallen leaves, the smell. Those crisp mornings when the sun warms things a bit. As a trade I guess we get the migrators for a few months. Fun to see who passes through…; 11/13/24, 2:18 AM
wendybar said...: FLAMING Hypocrites... One is an ass who calls himself "God"

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Charlamagne Tha God says it's fine to misgender Caitlyn Jenner because she voted Trump https://trib.al/R4n4D1U

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This is who liberals are. They pretend to represent “marginalized” groups, but the minute someone from such a group steps off the reservation, that person no longer has any rights and is basically not considered human anymore.
9:26 AM · Nov 12, 2024

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I DO NOT want unity with the people who put their party before people.

John
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Everything to the Left is political, not serious. Their rules only apply to others, and they only apply when convenient. If you don’t see that, I’m afraid you are either part of their cult or you’re too stupid.; 11/13/24, 2:19 AM
wendybar said...: I've said it before, and I'll say it over and over again. In order to be the Democrat candidate, you MUST bow down to, kiss his ring and financially support the Racist Al Sharpton, who is one of the leaders of their party.

"On Oct. 3, Sharpton aired a video of Harris wishing him happy birthday on his MSNBC weekend show, PoliticsNation with Al Sharpton. "Happy birthday, Rev," Harris said, using Sharpton’s nickname. "You have been over all of your years such an extraordinary leader. You have been a voice of truth, a voice of conscience.""

https://redstate.com/sister-toldjah/2024/11/12/msnbcs-got-some-explaining-to-do-after-revelations-on-harris-campaign-donations-to-sharpton-organization-n2181918; 11/13/24, 2:23 AM
wendybar said...: Progressive heads are exploding. It is a sight to behold!!; 11/13/24, 2:33 AM
wendybar said...: Glenn Greenwald

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This is one of the funniest things. Corporate media spent 8 years salivating at the prospect of stopping Trump by imprisoning him, including in fake, bullshit Russiagate "scandals."

Now that Trump won, they are all saying: wait a minute! No prosecuting political opponents!
Tom Elliott
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NBC's @KenDilanianNBC: If the Trump Admin prosecutes NY AG @TishJames or Jack Smith, "that would violate five decades of norms post-Watergate, which said that the DoJ should be independent from the president"

THIS is why we point and laugh at the idiots. They think WE are as dumb and gullible as they are.

https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/11/msnbc-pivots-back-to-concern-about-norms-and-a-weaponized-doj-following-trump-win/; 11/13/24, 2:39 AM
wendybar said...: Great. Now we can tell who the intolerant idiots are!!

James Woods
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They wonder why we Americans gave President-elect Trump a landslide victory.

We are just tired of crazy people quite frankly

https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/11/are-you-familiar-with-the-blue-bracelet-movement/; 11/13/24, 2:41 AM
wendybar said...: She speaks for MANY of us....FIGHT, FIGHT FIGHT!!!

Jean Romanik
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I don’t think I could’ve said this any better. My friend Jenny spitting facts early in the morning. It’s time for the political elite in this country to realize America told you exactly how they felt on election day. This goes to the media as well. America is done with the bullshit.🇺🇸

https://x.com/JeanRomanik/status/1855980032511898005; 11/13/24, 2:45 AM
wendybar said...: Bonchie
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The risks of picking Peter Hegseth to head the Pentagon are too great.

I mean, we could end up with spy balloons flying over the country, disastrous pull-outs from warzones, Russia invading Europe, Iran expanding, and a recruitment crisis.

Best go with another DoD insider.
8:29 PM · Nov 12, 2024; 11/13/24, 2:50 AM
rehajm said...: Or a way to keep something ruinous out, like Chinese EV’s

Since Japan tossed up Detroit we do get the cheap foreign car scare every now and again. (Bought a made in Japan car lately?) Word is the Chinese Telsa killers have not reached a quality standard suitable for American consumers. More like a Yugo EV.; 11/13/24, 3:15 AM
rehajm said...: …cars are heavy and expensive to move around and kill most of the price advantage. The quality gap kills the rest. Maybe if BYD is allowed to build a plant in the south close to Charleston or Savannah.

BTW last time I drive over the bridge Port of Savannah was installing a bunch of bigger cranes. Take that Long Beach…; 11/13/24, 3:22 AM
wendybar said...: The corrupt liars HATE people who have actual credentials....

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Pete Hegseth is a 20-year military veteran, a decorated combat veteran, a recipient of the Bronze Star (2x), and graduated from both Harvard and Princeton.

You falsely claimed to be an Indian to get a job you couldn’t get on the merits. Sit down, Pocahontas.
Elizabeth Warren
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A Fox & Friends weekend co-host is not qualified to be the Secretary of Defense.

I lead the Senate military personnel panel. All three of my brothers served in uniform. I respect every one of our servicemembers.

Donald Trump’s pick will make us less safe and must be rejected.
9:20 PM · Nov 12, 2024; 11/13/24, 3:34 AM
Tina Trent said...: Say it again, Temujin; 11/13/24, 4:05 AM
rehajm said...: I would encourage you to turn yourself in before the rush starts…you know who you are.; 11/13/24, 4:36 AM
BudBrown said...: Madison getting down to 9 hours of sunlight a day. I suppose it's midday for you when the sun arises.; 11/13/24, 5:49 AM
Leland said...: Jersey, you can’t argue that tariffs are just bargaining chips when Trump wants to replace income tax with tariff revenue, which is the argument he presented on Rogan. I don’t think that could be done in 4 years, but it is his clear argument.
As for paying higher prices with Tariffs, we are already paying higher prices without tariffs and what is that getting us? Greenies want us to pay 3 to 8 times for fuel to warm our homes and take us places, and only western nations will be paying these premiums.; 11/13/24, 5:50 AM
Mark said...: If he had an actual case, he would write it down.

It must really smart to be so unlikeable that people crossed the aisle to vote for Tammy. Probably didnt help that he left Wisconsin decades ago for California, which is ironic, as his chosen home of California is full of all the things he claims are terrible about America.; 11/13/24, 5:52 AM
Breezy said...: I’ve been wondering the same thing.; 11/13/24, 5:55 AM
Jaq said...: Hey Rich, now do sanctions against fertilizer exports from the largest fertilizer exporting country in the world, over who gets to rule over a region of ethnic Russians who have been fighting bravely for ten years not to be ruled over by the people in Kiev who overthrew their democracy.

I guess that the costs imposed on the economy are worth it for this worthy goal, and it's just possible that the costs imposed by tariffs on our economy are worth it for the benefits to American workers, workers that you don't even care about, apparently, or more likely just don't want to say out loud that their wages need to be suppressed in order to break the wage-price spiral without changing the policy of giving cheap access to mega capital to the President's cronies.; 11/13/24, 5:55 AM
Jaq said...: Riches main problem with tariffs are that wealthy people will suffer relative to working Americans.; 11/13/24, 6:01 AM
Kakistocracy said...: The host of Fox and Friends Weekend will now be facing America's largest bureaucracy.

DoD is the US’ largest employer; over 1.3 million in active duty, 3/4’s of a million civilian personnel and over 800K in the Reserves and National Guard.
He was a platoon leader before joining Fox News. Of course, what a logical career progression to SecDef.

Is anyone really nodding their head over his appointments rather than shaking their head in disbelief?; 11/13/24, 6:02 AM
Kakistocracy said...: The idea of Trump demanding higher and higher tariffs to counteract the rise in the dollar that they are causing has alarming echoes of Erdogan demanding ever lower interest rates to counteract the inflation that they were causing.

The key problem here is that higher tariffs would hit some US companies such as Apple (and many others) very hard. Either consumers would need to suck up a big jump in the cost of their imported phones etc or manufacturing would need to move back onshore. That cannot happen overnight as the supply chains to manufacture consumer electronics simply don’t exist in Europe or North America. They also don’t exist in many other sectors such as textiles, shoes, specialist chemicals, shipbuilding, steel and EVs.

Even if parts of manufacturing could be brought back onshore this would also incur considerable costs for the manufacturer which would inevitably be passed on to consumers

So tariffs and onshoring ultimately bring you to the same place which is inflation.

Isn’t that what just lost the Democrats the election?; 11/13/24, 6:12 AM
Jaq said...: One more thing, Rich. How do Joe Biden's sanctions against China for not taking sides in the war we picked with Russia *not* anger them as a trade partner more than tariffs?; 11/13/24, 6:12 AM
Jaq said...: I am not 100% sure that at a reported price point of $11,000 dollars, Americans would really turn up their noses at Chinese EVs, as long as they run.; 11/13/24, 6:15 AM
Kakistocracy said...: More high-test blather from Comrade Drago -- either provide a link to said "cut & paste" or develop a new schtick....; 11/13/24, 6:15 AM
Jaq said...: Stuff affluent people buy would become more expensive, just like if we cut off illegal immigration, the maids and landscaping help that affluent people employ would get more expensive.

You are remarkably obtuse. The problem isn't simply inflation, it's that some people in the economy, the affluent, don't care about inflation, and like things the way they are, "America is already great!" and some people, not so affluent, are being hit very hard by inflation, and would like a better deal.; 11/13/24, 6:20 AM
rehajm said...: I feel pretty good about it. He only needs to know how to swing an axe..and anyone with military service will know what direction to swing.; 11/13/24, 6:23 AM
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Mark said...: Keep telling yourself that anything in Dollar Tree is US made. Walmart has a vast amount of imports.

Thats not where the affluent shop. My US made clothes and consumer goods all cost more and arent in budget shops.

Sure, it will affect the European import car I was expecting to buy next summer and the bottle I pour myself a drink of on weekends, but when the Dollar Store becomes Donald's Two Dollar Store I don't think the rich are the ones getting hit.; 11/13/24, 6:34 AM
lonejustice said...: Me to. It's beautiful. Except for the Harris/Walz campaign sign.; 11/13/24, 6:35 AM
Jaq said...: Mark, I am talking about paying US workers higher wages, not providing US workers with more cheap ChiCom crapola.

"That cannot happen overnight as the supply chains to manufacture consumer electronics simply don’t exist in Europe or North America"

Why don't they exist? Because our leaders decided that we would be better off by taking advantage of rock bottom wages paid in China and Viet Nam than paying US workers to make stuff.

Guess what, Russia is exposing the weakness of our economic model every fucking day. They make cheap and effective weapons, regardless of the profitability compared to say, systems like HIMARS and ATACMs, which the Russians solved in about two months, oh, and they are now training the Norks to counter them, and doubtless the ChiComs too.

The ChiComs were providing drones to Ukraine, we sanctioned them because they were also trading with Russia, and now the ChiComs stopped selling drones to Ukraine, and stopped selling critical drone parts to US manufacturers of military drones.

These problems were not created overnight, they are the result of the short-sighted decisions of Rich-type thinking over decades, but they must be solved, just like the $35 trillion, or maybe its $36 trillion this month, debt must be brought under control. These problems will not be solved overnight, but if we keep doing what we are doing, our economy is going to auger in, as the pilots call it.; 11/13/24, 6:54 AM
Jaq said...: "Tariffs are a way to tax American consumers, not on the exporters."

Tariffs are a way to tax the exporters of American jobs. The United States became the industrial giant that it once was through tariffs in the 19th century, before this program of tariffs, the US dollar was not even convertible, and the British Pound was the unquestioned reserve currency of the globe, until one day the unthinkable happened, and it wasn't any more.

Amazing to me to, Rich, that you keep avoiding the issue of reverse tariffs, that is "sanctions." Sanctions simply impose protectionism on the enemy's economy, which, if for example, they are a huge country swimming in natural resources, they will be able to handle, and, like Russia today, will simply get stronger, especially if they have an extended border with a manufacturing giant whom the US is also sanctioning, like China.

Sanctions have done far more damage to our economy than tariffs ever would. The rest of the world is busy setting up an alternative payment system to the dollar, just as was done when the dollar took over for the British pound.

Dollar inflows from foreign countries has not slowed, but what has slowed has been the inflow from overseas into US treasuries. Some of these treasury auctions are starting to sputter and cough. The money is flowing into the US stock market, which is probably on a sugar high right now, but, maybe I am wrong, and as the saying goes, "the market can be wrong for a lot longer than your funds to bet against it can hold out."; 11/13/24, 7:09 AM
boatbuilder said...: Tariffs cause prices on certain goods to be higher relative to other goods. They do not cause inflation.
Inflation is the inevitable result of printing more money.
People who already have lots of money can take advantage of hedges against inflation, and even benefit from inflation. People who don't have lots of money get crushed by inflation.
So if you are really concerned about impacts on the people who shop at those declasse' places, then you should be opposed to the policy of endlessly printing more money.
Tariffs are another issue, but inflation is the biggie.; 11/13/24, 7:12 AM
Jamie said...: I hope all is well at Meadehouse. No pressure though.; 11/13/24, 7:17 AM
BG said...: Apparently you didn’t visit the Driftless Area.; 11/13/24, 7:33 AM
BUMBLE BEE said...: Great Photo!; 11/13/24, 7:36 AM
rehajm said...: Yes. Some people bought Yugos, too…; 11/13/24, 7:37 AM
Breezy said...: Have to admit I’m surprised at the SecDef pick. Have to remember the backdrop to all picks are that Trump owns them, and if something or someone is not working out, course corrections will happen.

I do admire Hegseth in general, given his undying passion for our service people. Just not clear he has this size leader skill set… yet. We’ll see what happens!; 11/13/24, 7:42 AM
hawkeyedjb said...: Of the things I miss about Wisconsin, brandy old fashioneds and supper clubs are right up there on the list. Fortunately, we can now get good (Johnsonville) brats almost anywhere. Whew.; 11/13/24, 7:51 AM
Curious George said...: I don't think you were in Wisconsin. Illinois maybe.; 11/13/24, 7:58 AM
Jersey Fled said...: Leland: I don’t think Trump is serious about replacing the income tax with tariffs. It isn’t going to happen. That’s exactly why I see tariffs as a chip in the bargaining game. But isn’t it going to be fun to watch this play out over the next four years?; 11/13/24, 7:59 AM
planetgeo said...: Meade-Monet #3...; 11/13/24, 8:15 AM
Peachy said...: Jesse Kelly
"The Right should not forget or forgive the evils of the Biden Administration in our post-election euphoria.These people committed serious crimes against the American people. They used our government in ways it has never been used before. That cannot ever happen again."

Indeed. COVID was on purpose.; 11/13/24, 8:25 AM
Peachy said...: From Wendy's fab cut and paste X
Greenwald:
"This is one of the funniest things. Corporate media spent 8 years salivating at the prospect of stopping Trump by imprisoning him, including in fake, bullshit Russiagate "scandals."

Now that Trump won, they are all saying: wait a minute! No prosecuting political opponents!"; 11/13/24, 8:29 AM
Caroline said...: I can small The apple pie in photo no 3. Hegseth? I don’t get it. The Althouse Sages will have to fill me in.; 11/13/24, 8:42 AM
Iman said...: Is the pick an improvement over the last 4 years of Lloyd Austin holding the job? Yes, indeed it is.

It’s nearly impossible for it not to be.; 11/13/24, 9:20 AM
Rusty said...: Mark is formulating a wise ass come back as we speak.; 11/13/24, 10:14 AM
Rusty said...: Tarriffs will also get the foreign manufacturers to build factories over here. And before you tell me it's too expensive it not. If you want this market then that is what is going to have to happen.; 11/13/24, 10:20 AM
Rusty said...: He ain't woke.; 11/13/24, 10:21 AM
walter said...: Some suggest Kammy! Cackles in the Court! Let that legal mind shine.; 11/13/24, 12:14 PM
Peachy said...: The left are perfectly fine importing an illegal China-Communist-type slave class. all while lowering US wages. but tariffs!; 11/13/24, 12:14 PM
walter said...: Maybe it's ok to call CDG a N__ because he's an idiot?; 11/13/24, 1:48 PM
Jim at said...: Is anyone really nodding their head over his appointments rather than shaking their head in disbelief?

I'm nodding my head. Know why? Because you've been wrong every step of the way and the fact you're getting the vapors over this one tells me it's the right pick.

You lost.; 11/13/24, 4:06 PM
Jim at said...: end; 11/13/24, 4:07 PM
Josephbleau said...: In number 3, that concrete stairs going down to the sidewalk at the bottom of the scene is going to get someone sued someday.; 11/13/24, 4:29 PM