Althouse: Sunrise

November 20, 2024

Sunrise — 6:44.

81 comments:

lonejustice said...: When you are surrounded by angry hungry wolves, you throw a piece of raw red meat to the wolves in order to make your escape. Matt Gaetz is the piece of raw red meat.; 11/20/24, 4:59 PM
Original Mike said...: This is why the left/dems are upset at Elon for buying X. Prior, they had the place to themselves. Now they actually encounter alternative views.; 11/20/24, 5:07 PM
William50 said...: It has been reported that Tren de Aragua is now in Wisconsin. There was no mention of where, but I think it would be safe to assume they are in the population centers of Milwaukee and Madison. From your pictures it looks like the area of your morning trek is the perfect place for a Lakin Riley type assualt. I hope you are taking the proper precautions. Remember, if you are forced to use deadly force to defend yourself, the first thing you do is call 911. The second thing you do is call your lawyer!; 11/20/24, 5:12 PM
tcrosse said...: "PRAIRIE DU CHIEN, Wis. (WXOW) - The man identified by authorities as a member of a Venezuelan gang is charged in Crawford County Court with sexual assault and child abuse."; 11/20/24, 5:20 PM
Leland said...: Democrats opposed to Gaetz look like they are well fed sheep, so I don't think your analogy makes any sense at all.; 11/20/24, 5:23 PM
Political Junkie said...: Love "2 Way with Mark Halperin". Watching D NY congressman Ritchie Torres. I like him. He is attacking the far left and talking about how the D center needs to kick ass. Watch that dude.; 11/20/24, 5:23 PM
Narr said...: Looks chilly, as it is here (finally).

Just saw the first geese of the season heading south--probably only ten or a dozen of them, but they were low, and making a racket.; 11/20/24, 5:27 PM
Dixcus said...: Alan Lictman (Magic Keys Man who's "model" failed miserably on Election Day) has left X. People were blashpheming him there. He will not truck with blasphemers. So he's going to BlueSky, where people aren't allowed to blaspheme him.

He's GOD, you see.; 11/20/24, 5:55 PM
Dixcus said...: He should do a "Spit Roast w/Mark Halperin" ... have two rabid Republicans on tag-teaming one Democrat.; 11/20/24, 5:57 PM
Lilly, a dog said...: One day, Dixcus will tell us all about the prostitutes he has murdered, and no one will be surprised.; 11/20/24, 6:12 PM
narciso said...: https://x.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1859324657171824807; 11/20/24, 6:14 PM
wild chicken said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 11/20/24, 6:24 PM
Big Mike said...: @William50, I was told the other way around — call your lawyer before 911. Can someone who knows more about self defense law in Wisconsin weigh in? Also be sure sure to ask for an ambulance in the 911 call, even if your round went right through the bridge of his nose. You need to show concern fr uour assailant’s well-being, even if you were defending your life.; 11/20/24, 6:26 PM
john mosby said...: Prof, I am going to take a chance and post this. Apologies if it is unsuitable. - JSM

https://www.givesendgo.com/christy; 11/20/24, 6:33 PM
MadTownGuy said...: Tren de Aragua gang, known for trafficking people and targeting police, infiltrates D.C. region

Couldn't happen to a nicer place.; 11/20/24, 6:34 PM
William50 said...: Big Mike says: Can someone who knows more about self defense law in Wisconsin weigh in?

Big Mike, this was per my Wisconsin conceal carry class. I am now licensed in Wisconsin.; 11/20/24, 6:48 PM
William50 said...: When calling 911 you need to report that you were in fear for your life which resulted in you shooting someone. You need to unload your weapon, place it away from you and wait for the police to arrive.; 11/20/24, 6:56 PM
Jaq said...: Putin is not going to go nuclear, he is probably going to respond by targeting American "advisors," like those who are running the Patriot batteries, or something like that. He got mad at France once early in the war over what rumor said was a French special forces attack inside of Russia (it's a rumor, there is no link), and blew up a hotel with a bunch of French mercenaries in it, and Macron got furious, so it's not without precedent that he would respond in this way.

He also said that his response would be public and known to all, but that doesn't rule out brushback operations like sabotaging comms cables in addition.; 11/20/24, 6:56 PM
William50 said...: I highly recommend that anyone with a conceal carry license join USCCA, U.S. Conceal Carry Assoc.; 11/20/24, 7:00 PM
Dr Weevil said...: All the fuss about Trump saying he's going to use the Army to deport illegals seems to miss the point, though he could explain it better. The military won't be needed to pick up Jorge at the slaughterhouse and put him on a bus to the airport. He's not the main problem.

The cartels that import the illegals are so large, so wealthy, so well-armed, so unrestricted by any border controls, and so utterly ruthless that American police forces, state and local, will not be able to handle them. They will be totally outgunned, and it will take a professional military to defeat and destroy the cartels. They've killed tens of thousands of Mexicans, including hundreds of politicians at all levels of government and at least one archbishop, and will likely try to do the same here. I expect a great deal of bloodshed, and hope that Trump's men are competent enough to make sure it's nearly all cartel blood that is shed.; 11/20/24, 7:01 PM
Mason G said...: "You need to unload your weapon, place it away from you and wait for the police to arrive."

Is there a law that actually makes this a required action?; 11/20/24, 7:07 PM
William50 said...: Per my CC instructor who was in Wisconsin law enforcement for over 20 years. If you shoot someone in Wisconsin, regardless of the circumstances, you will be arrested.; 11/20/24, 7:12 PM
Kakistocracy said...: Selective ethics by the ethics committee.; 11/20/24, 7:13 PM
William50 said...: I forgot to add, that is why you need a lawyer immediately.; 11/20/24, 7:13 PM
Big Mike said...: Same in Virginia.; 11/20/24, 7:14 PM
Kakistocracy said...: Included with membership: self-defense liability insurance....; 11/20/24, 7:15 PM
Dixcus said...: Good News Everybody! Ellen DeGeneris has announced that she's pulling up her rug and taking her muncher and herself to England. She's QUITTING AMERICA, thank the Gods.

I'm sure she won't run into any Muslims over there who will throw her and Portia off a roof.

Oh wait ...; 11/20/24, 7:18 PM
Big Mike said...: @Althouse, is Dane County becoming more dreary? Or is the dreariness of your pictures a subconscious response to the past election?; 11/20/24, 7:23 PM
narciso said...: https://youtu.be/GjSy5lWHsOc?si=BTBmTVT4satHz466; 11/20/24, 7:29 PM
Leland said...: If you release Gaetz ethics report, then you should release them all, right bich?; 11/20/24, 7:32 PM
robother said...: MSNBC is being spun off, and staffers are freaking out. Might I suggest a new name, "TDS" would be perfect, captures the whole business model in a concise acronym.; 11/20/24, 7:37 PM
Mason G said...: MS-TDS?; 11/20/24, 7:51 PM
NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...: Doubt it, but it's good advice to not have the gun on you when Law Enforcement shows up. They're coming in blind and all they know is that shots have been fired.; 11/20/24, 7:53 PM
Dixcus said...: What fool would buy that garbage?

We're the Official Garbage People and we wouldn't buy that crap.; 11/20/24, 7:54 PM
Kakistocracy said...: We’ll see how this goes. America seems to be okay with a lack of experience and sexual misconduct, after all they voted for it twice.; 11/20/24, 8:06 PM
Maynard said...: Lily,

I stopped reading Dixcus' comments some time ago. He posts too much and thinks too little. I am still suspicious of his intent.; 11/20/24, 8:13 PM
Leland said...: Sam Brinton was found guilty and sentenced. America never voted for him either. They didn't vote for Buttigieg either, and wow was he lacking in experience.; 11/20/24, 8:28 PM
Peachy said...: Billy Jeff - hacher le foie?; 11/20/24, 8:35 PM
Peachy said...: It is of the utmost importance that you all click this link - smile and feel joy.; 11/20/24, 8:45 PM
Original Mike said...: PA county official apologizes after facing backlash for disregarding 'precedent' in ballot decision

"I wanted to start by apologizing for the upset and confusion that I have caused the citizens of Bucks County and the hardworking employees of this county and my family and those who share my last name,” Ellis-Marseglia said at a meeting on Wednesday, per The Hill.

“Anyone who knows me knows that I care a lot about elections and I have been involved in them all my life, virtually," she continued. "And like all of you and all Americans, I want this election and every election to be fair, to be honest, to be just and one we can have confidence in."

Oh, yeah, I believe her. Fair and free elections are her only concern.
Prosecute her as a deterrence to the next one.

("…and my family and those who share my last name,”. LOL); 11/20/24, 9:12 PM
Mason G said...: She's sorry she got caught. End of story.; 11/20/24, 9:30 PM
Mason G said...: "And like all of you and all Americans, I want this election and every election to be fair, to be honest, to be just and one we can have confidence in."

"I want"? Believe her words or her actions about what she wants? Oh, dear- however shall I decide?

Rhetorical question: Do you suppose this is the first time she's been involved with counting ineligible votes?; 11/20/24, 9:38 PM
Original Mike said...: The arrogance she displayed was astounding. She felt safe. Something in the last few days convinced her this time was different.; 11/20/24, 9:41 PM
Rusty said...: He's frightening the usual suspects.. Good; 11/20/24, 9:42 PM
Rusty said...: Thousands a few blocks away. You want em?; 11/20/24, 9:44 PM
Mason G said...: "She felt safe."

People committing election fraud need to start feeling unsafe. Putting some of them in prison might speed up this process.; 11/20/24, 9:45 PM
Rusty said...: No. Just good sense , Mason. The police don't know the circumstances. Leave the gun and call your lawyer. Your going to the station either way.; 11/20/24, 9:46 PM
Original Mike said...: I couple of prison terms would do wonders.; 11/20/24, 9:50 PM
Mason G said...: "No. Just good sense , Mason."

I don't disagree. I only asked because of the "You need to..." comment which seemed (maybe just to me) to be a legal requirement. Sorry for any confusion.; 11/20/24, 9:55 PM
planetgeo said...: I continue to be amazed that blue city and state officials get away with openly declaring that they will actively resist federal immigration laws as "sanctuary" entities. Why aren't they being arrested? They are literally breaking federal laws by harboring criminals. I am looking forward to seeing incoming border czar Homan issue arrest warrants for these law-breaking officials.; 11/20/24, 11:14 PM
Aggie said...: In a way, the practice of loading up these self-declared virtue zones with buses and planes full of illegals has proven to be the best medicine. Let them have the rewards of all these extra souls ! And the cost.; 11/20/24, 11:29 PM
Jim at said...: America seems to be okay with a lack of experience and sexual misconduct

Well, considering government experience AND sexual misconduct over the last 50 years has gotten us into this mess, I'm willing to try something else.; 11/21/24, 12:13 AM
Jim at said...: Remember, if you are forced to use deadly force to defend yourself, the first thing you do is call 911. The second thing you do is call your lawyer!

Nope. Where I come from .... you shoot, shovel and shut up.; 11/21/24, 12:15 AM
wendybar said...: Dana Loesch
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wendybar said...: The party of lawfare against Republicans, just LOVE their terrorist buddies....don't they?? Funny, how they let terrorists go, but continue to harass and arrest innocent American citizens who do not agree with what the corrupt left is doing....

Paul Sperry
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BREAKING: Biden Justice Department quietly dismisses trespassing -- and potential terror -- case against two Jordanian migrants accused of illegally ramming vehicle through Quantico Marine base gate

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2024/11/20/biden-doj-quietly-dismisses-case-against-two-jordanians-who-tried-to-infiltrate-marine-corps-base-n2648058; 11/21/24, 3:25 AM
Big Mike said...: Maybe Trump should respond by awarding a Medal of Freedom to Abby Johnson.; 11/21/24, 4:13 AM
rehajm said...: Massachusetts loudmouth mayors and governor have been a bit more careful with their language. Unlike last time they are not claiming they will engage in active interference with INS but rather claiming local law will cooperate when violent criminals are involved but not others…and there’s framing lack of cooperation as a state’s rights issues, suddenly shifting their attitude to ‘there’s state laws we must follow- our hands are tied’….but IMO they do seem kind of scared about it. I hope for good reason…; 11/21/24, 4:55 AM
Saint Croix said...: What's striking about the Matt Gaetz nomination is how many Republicans are not on board with this. You see this at the National Review (of course), but also on the Althouse blog and in Congress. Many of these Republicans seem to take the anonymous and leaked DOJ "investigation" seriously, when they know full well the DOJ is a partisan shit-show and has been since Merrick Garland took over.

Garland is the worst AG of my lifetime. He arrests pro-lifers for being pro-lifers. He arrests parents for going to PTA meetings. I don't know if he is a firebrand masquerading as milk toast. Or he's milk toast, and the worst president of my lifetime, Joe Biden, is the one who orchestrated all of this. I don't know and I don't care. The DOJ is a joke at the moment, and I trust them about as far as I can throw them.

The Republican party used to remember this. They were outraged, supposedly, when the DOJ raided Donald Trump's house to seize all his papers. It was unified opposition, at least for the newspapers. Republicans know that every president takes papers home with him, and some dippy shit vice presidents do, too.

Republicans also know, in our hearts, that four criminal prosecutions in an election year was a fucking joke. Independents know it, too, and many Democrats. And many judges. The American people know it, too, which is why the "felon" and "rapist" won an election over an incompetent who had no such criminal charges.

I would beg my fellow Republicans to recognize that this lawfare is not normal. The DOJ today is not a normal, ethical place. So please spare me your editorials about how you know some attorneys better than Matt Gaetz. This is not a normal confirmation hearing, because the DOJ is not a normal DOJ.

I give exactly zero shits about the secret investigation by the DOJ who tried interfering with an election in the USA. My presumption is that Matt Gaetz is an innocent man. I presume this because the law requires it, and because the partisan shit-show that is the DOJ was unable to convince the House to remove him. (And, I imagine, many in the House very much want to remove him, because Gaetz upended the Speaker in a legal and yet notorious way).

I get why many Republicans want to put all this behind us, and pretend like all this illegality at the DOJ didn't happen. But it did happen. I don't know if Trump and Gaetz are planning on prosecuting people. If we were Democrats, we would be prosecuting the shit out of everybody. And the media would be cheering us.

I understand that we are not Democrats. I also understand that the media will not be cheering us. But I also think a lot of people at the DOJ should lose their jobs. And some of them, perhaps, should be investigated, arrested, and prosecuted. I don't know. That question is beyond me.

But I do not think it is too much to ask the Republicans in Congress to support the "criminal" who just won a major election, and to support his "criminal" appointments. That's because he's not a criminal at all. The DOJ is acting outside the law, and has been doing so for a while. So no, I am not on board with an ordinary AG nomination and an ordinary AG confirmation. I'd like an extraordinary one, please.

So I vote to support Donald Trump and his nominee to head the DOJ, Matt Gaetz.; 11/21/24, 5:03 AM
selfanalyst said...: Thank you for that. Stella is my new hero.; 11/21/24, 5:24 AM
wendybar said...: Hussein is MAD that he lost his 4th term!!! He is currently Cloward and Pivening his fundamental transformation as fast as his greedy little 1/2 white hands can to destroy what is left of America before he leaves the country.
https://nypost.com/2024/11/21/us-news/biden-admin-to-let-illegal-migrants-skip-nyc-ice-appointments/; 11/21/24, 5:37 AM
Jaq said...: You don't live in the north, do you.; 11/21/24, 5:48 AM
Jaq said...: Well, it turns out that Russian ICBMs work. The pro war posters here were assuring us that they would not work. They used one with conventional warheads on Ukraine and it put on quite a show, with groups of individually targeted warheads falling from the sky like shafts of light.

If you are. curious what the last thing you are going to see if you live near a high value target, or in an urban area, before you die, you should check out the video.

https://x.com/Partisangirl/status/1859545211443216746

I disagree with the tweet, BTW, this is not going to bother Biden one bit, it's a scare tactic that is hugely expensive, if this is the best Russia does, the US will escalate further. It was just the best video I could find. Now, also, we have fragments of a Russian ICBM to look at.; 11/21/24, 6:04 AM
Jaq said...: I have an identical pile of leaves, well, maybe one twice the size of that one, to deal with today. Look for the fire in the satellite data!

Yeah, I know, I should leave the leaves, and I would, if I cared about leaving them as much as she cares about removing them, but I am also happy for the exercise, between cutting firewood and removing leaves, that's what I have.

Of course there are probably twenty dead or dying ash trees on the property right now, and the woodpeckers are shredding the bark off them to get at the ash borers (Thank you China), so I won't lack for outdoor work for some time.; 11/21/24, 6:13 AM
Mr. Forward said...: Tren de Aragua is the newest coffee shop in Madison.; 11/21/24, 6:23 AM
Jaq said...: OK, so the only way using a ICBM with MIRVs makes any sense, from Russia's point of view is if they were bunker busting NATO personnel concentrations. I guess time will tell.; 11/21/24, 6:43 AM
Jaq said...: I think that if I were playing Russia's hand, it would be time to kill Zelensky, but in battle, not an assassination. His value to Russia as an irrational commander of their armed forces has dwindled as Ukrainian lines collapse.

Oooh, I forgot, as an American, it is unpatriotic to look at the war objectively!; 11/21/24, 7:06 AM
rhhardin said...: Bluesky apparently is for the left leaving Twitter. It sounds like a character in Animal House.; 11/21/24, 7:23 AM
Christopher B said...: @Original Mike, I think it was the immediate and bipartisan smackdown by the SCofPA. She knew nobody had her back at that point (despite what Marc Elias was whispering to her). I think they even used King's Bench jurisdiction to rule on it before a case was even presented to them.; 11/21/24, 8:15 AM
Iman said...: I hope they inhabit nothin’ but bluesky from now on.; 11/21/24, 8:16 AM
narciso said...: https://nypost.com/2024/11/09/us-news/georgia-da-deborah-gonzalez-defeated-by-kalki-yalamanchili/; 11/21/24, 8:44 AM
Leland said...: I see Europeans are back to finding excuses to arrest Jews and put them in prisons.; 11/21/24, 9:14 AM
wendybar said...: You really CAN'T hate the Progressive Propaganda media enough. They only thing any of them are good at, is lying to the American people because they are pigs.

Tim Young
@TimRunsHisMouth
DISGUSTING! Right after Joe Ibarra was convicted of Laken Riley's murder...

ABC News went on to protect Biden/Kamala and try to blame Trump for the wide open border and illegal immigration that caused this.

You don't hate the media enough.

https://x.com/TimRunsHisMouth/status/1859342479050338710?; 11/21/24, 9:41 AM
wendybar said...: This "so called" journalist should join as the 6th member of The Spew, since ABC news includes that crapfest as part of the Propaganda machine.; 11/21/24, 9:42 AM
Dr Weevil said...: I think if I were Jaq's spiritual or legal or psychiatric adviser, I would strongly urge him to step away from the keyboard until he can figure out how to post here without revealing that he approves of, even admires, war crimes, as long as Russians are committing them.; 11/21/24, 11:03 AM
Dr Weevil said...: Anyone who reads TrentTelenko on Twitter knows (link) that the 6 MRVed warheads (not MIRVed: they all hit together) were almost certainly "inert simulated warheads" designed for testing, that even if they had been live non-nuclear warheads they would have done far less damage than heavy bombers that cost a fraction as much, and that "by any military standard . . . this ICBM launch was a political desperation move by the Putin Regime aimed at Western political idiots".

As for whether they worked, (a) no one here has 'assured' Jaq as a fact "that they would not work", just pointed out that their last three nuclear tests were duds or disasters (blowing up the launch pad), (b) there are reports on Twitter that they fired two this time and one crashed on the way without doing any damage. True or not? No way to be sure.; 11/21/24, 11:13 AM
Jaq said...: "Reports on twitter..."

Sounds great. Looks like your guys are going to win this stuff without our help!; 11/21/24, 12:29 PM
Jaq said...: It's not automatically a "war crime" just because Ukrainians get hit. Although if you only followed Ukrainian twitter and telegram, you might think that. But even if it is, there are plenty of war crimes, double taps, etc, to go around in this war. Ukraine double tapped with US supplied HIMARS when they hit a civilian bakery in Donetsk City because they were selling bread to the Russian militia that had been fighting for what, 4,000 days, not quite yet, against the Maidan "ultranationalists" taking over. Russia has also used double taps.

There are plenty of "war crimes" in every war, and the only real crime in war is to lose. Look what the US did to Dresden, for example, in WWII.; 11/21/24, 12:33 PM
Jaq said...: Tell you what, if credible video shows up the the crash site of this second medium range missile, which you say is in Ukraine, so it should be showing up any minute now, I will be the first to post it. What a propaganda coup that will be!; 11/21/24, 12:46 PM
Dr Weevil said...: When every single target except one in Ukrainian cities (=not at the front lines) over the last six months has been an apartment building, hospital, school, grocery store, or other civilian target, that is in fact a systematic on-going massive war crime. (I mentioned they did manage to hit a military training school a couple of months ago.) When the schools and grocery stores are hit in the day time, the apartment houses at night, it becomes clear that they are trying to increase, not decrease, civilian casualties. The first drones Ukraine sent to Moscow that flew over Red Square and hit some government buildings did so in the middle of the night, when no one but a night watchman was in any danger, and the Russians didn't even claim any casualties.

The claim that both sides do it is in fact a damned filthy lie in this case. To take another example: Russian POWs complain that they aren't served their favorite fancy salads; Ukrainian POWs are shot, beheaded, castrated, or if they're lucky starved to 100 pounds under their original weight. And that's fine with Jaq: he supports Russian war crimes.

Of course, when our Russian toadie gives one alleged example of a Ukrainian double tap without any link or even any date, though implying that it happened years ago, well that just makes him an unusually eager toadie, gobbling down Putin's rotting toads with gusto.; 11/21/24, 1:03 PM
Jaq said...: "When every single target except one in Ukrainian cities (=not at the front lines) over the last six months has been an apartment building,..."

You just made a claim last week about an attack inn Odessa Putin supposedly "deliberately targeted" a civilian building, and it turned out that it was a falling Patriot interceptor that did the damage and caused the deaths. This makes what you said a lie.; 11/21/24, 4:10 PM
Dr Weevil said...: Stupid Jaq doesn't understand that if all but one of the occupied buildings struck by Russian missiles, bombs, and drones this year was a civilian target, they are obviously aiming at civilian targets. The fact that they have hit as many as three hospitals in one night might also give him a clue.

If, now and then, a civilian target is hit by a weapon aimed at a different civilian target, that was diverted by anti-aircraft fire, or even hit by an anti-aircraft weapon that missed its target, that does not affect the moral question. The fact is that Russia constantly bombards civilian neighborhoods that have no military targets in or near them, and is morally and ethically responsible for all deaths there.

Similarly, if you rob a bank and take a teller hostage, get into a shootout with the police, and the hostage is killed, you can and will be charged with murder even if a police bullet killed the hostage. The death is still your fault. And the Russians don't even deny that they target civilians. The latest 'hypersonic' missile strike that injured dozens, many of them critically, was, according to Putin himself, an experiment to see if the missile worked. Yes, Russia "experiments" by firing massive weapons at civilians, and our coprophagic ninny 'Jaq' thinks that's just fine. What a disgusting facsimile of a human being he is!; 11/21/24, 5:48 PM