ADDED: "Defeated left-wing MSNBC anchors Joe Scarborough, Mika Brzezinski reveal they met with Trump: ‘Time to do something different’" (NY Post).Morning Joe then: Donald Trump is comparable to Adolf Hitler.
— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) November 18, 2024
Morning Joe now: We met with Trump at Mar-a-Lago to settle our differences. pic.twitter.com/UkfMt9ScuP
“Many things were discussed, and I very much appreciated the fact that they wanted to have open communication,” the soon-to-be 47th president said. “In many ways, it’s too bad that it wasn’t done long ago.” They “congratulated me on running a ‘great and flawless campaign, one for the history books,’ which I really believe it was, but it was also a campaign where I worked long and hard — perhaps longer and harder than any presidential candidate in history,” he added. While he feels “an obligation to the American public, and to our country itself, to be open and available to the press,” Trump also said: “If not treated fairly, however, that will end.”..
The backlash against the TV pair was swift on social media – with many blasting the duo for their “shamelessness” and for “bending the knee” by arranging the face-to-face.... Eli Lake, a Free Press columnist, added, “Why would Trump bother talking to these people other than to urge them to seek mental health counseling?”...
In a markedly different tone from his first term, Trump also told Fox: “While many others are calling for meetings, I am not looking for retribution, grandstanding or to destroy people who treated me very unfairly, or even badly beyond comprehension. I am always looking to give a second and even third chance, but never willing to give a fourth chance,” he said. “That is where I hold the line.”
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D-MSNBC - Go burn in a dumpster fire.
These sad sacks are not long for the airwaves.
Hey, it has worked so far. It got Joey "The Nuke" Biden elected.
I learned a new word: hate-watching. That's about 50% of the MSNBC's audience. I hope Elon buys it and fires all of them.
Trump is making his enemies kneel before Zod. Love it.
as legit as anything else they said, why would they admit it to their psycho peanut gallery,
Mika's father is the guy who convinced Jimmy Carter to sign off on creating the Taliban in order to provoke a Soviet invasion. I think that the quote was "What's a few angry jihadists compared to the defeat of the Soviet Union?" This was said a year before 9-11.
More interesting was the way that he admitted to press manipulation which made it appear that the Soviets were lying, when we knew they were telling the truth. To Mika's dad, that was the cherry on top!
Mika should know Hitler when she sees him, since she was raised by that man who admitted that he thought that using the press to lie to start wars was perfectly fine.
Trump must never agree to go on that hack loser liar Network.
D-MSNBC a-holes & Liars used the Hillary-/FBI generated BS Mueller investigation to cripple Trump. & it was all lies.
You never speak to these fuckers. Ever. D-MSNBC must be mocked and ridiculed until they are nothing. Because they are NOTHING. Less than Nothing. Worthless garbage.
You don't speak to worthless garbage - you dig a hole and bury it.
I am sure that Mika has read her dad's book about using Ukraine as the anvil on which to smash the Russian Federation was explained. You all should read that book if you are genuinely interested in the roots of this conflict.
Good Lord. Not enough FU's for Mika and Joe. Frauds, both.
its more complicated than that, a local warlord, Ismail Khan was pestering the puppet government, the Soviets decided that Amin was the CIA pawn, and sent the Spetznaz, and the rest was history,
For people who would ask "why we would interview the president elect" this is why you just lost an election.
They made themselves into an irrelevancy through dedication and hard work, and History will second the nomination.
They see the trend line with other media - WaPo, LATimes, CNN, ABC, etc - that are all of a sudden wanting more conservative viewpoints in their swamp. I think the way to do that though is layoff the far left cowards and fill their spots w fresh faces and viewpoints. No one will believe Joe and Mika are being honest from here. I certainly won’t.
Trump must never agree to go on that hack loser liar Network.
D-MSNBC a-holes & Liars used the Hillary-/FBI generated BS Mueller investigation to cripple Trump. & it was all lies.
You never speak to these fuckers. Ever. D-MSNBC must be mocked and ridiculed until they are nothing. Because they are NOTHING. Less than Nothing. Worthless garbage.
You don't speak to worthless garbage - you dig a hole and bury it.
I see my comments are vanishing again.
The real life Beavis and Butthead are pathetic. Grovel more, Mika. They hate that their ratings cratered after all the lies they spew cost them the election. At least they had a fan in Delusional Joe!!!
It's always more complicated, but that's the story that Brzezinski gave to the Nouvelle Observateur in that interview. Ultimately, her dad's fingerprints are all over 9-11, not as a conspiracy, but through recklessness.
N[ouvelle] O[bservateur]: When the Soviets justified their intervention by affirming they were fighting against a secret American interference nobody believed them, though they were telling the truth. Don’t you regret it?
B[rzezinski]: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. Its objective was to lead the Russian to the Afghan trap, and you want me to regret it? The very same day the Soviets crossed the Afghan border I wrote the following to President Carter: “This is our chance to give Russia its Viet Nam.”
This part is great:
NO: Aren’t you sorry either for favoring Islamic fundamentalism and providing weapons and consultancies to future terrorists?
B: What is the most important thing when you look at world history, the Taliban or the fall of the Soviet empire? Some excited Islamists or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the Cold War? - Mika's dad
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I didn't see your comment. So sorry!
As Elon said of twitter, stay or go, this is not an airport, are they the most irrelevant, that would be would Stephanie (name escapes) she lost 2/3 of their audience,
I'm going long on table tennis gear. Henry Kissinger is smiling... somewhere.
it seems Trump confirms they showed up, they were not welcome
Throw those two shitheads in prison, just for kicks.
They want to talk to him because money. It’s about the money, as always.
Trumplier? Would that work? (blink!)(blink!)
Trump obviously sees these two putzes as potentially useful for some reason or another and is, hello, using them. You get to guess what that use might be but I can pretty readily think of one: It can't hurt Trump to have their putz audience get a few glimpses of what the real Trump is actually like.
Shorter version: "We don't want to lose our jobs when this network gets sold for a song so we want to play nice now."
Yes. The Springtime with Hitler crowd has noticed its ratings.
Ha.
No shit. They aren’t news. They are propaganda pretending to be news. I suppose it’s their right free speech and all but do we have to normalize them with press credentials? How about some standards?
World's most obvious prediction: their remaining audience will melt away. Continuing to listen to this odious pair is akin to continuing attendance at a church where the pastor has been busted in a prostitution sting.
That’s the problem. None of them die. They get put on hold while they nibble around the edges of news and impartiality but they’ll be right back into service next election cycle. What a racket…
Reforming leftmediaswine? LOL! Democrats had the money, the mediaswine and the celebrities. They lost! Now they are pretending they noticed some things. They are great kidders.
Exactly, which is why they are now sucking up to Hitler. Trump is very important to their ability to hold the crazies that they still have a grip on. Seems like losing half their audience is all it took to cause these two charlatans to refocus on what's important to them - making money via Trump
This attempt at rapprochement with Literally Hitler is driven by one thing: the need to boost ratings.
The rest of the noble chatter here is purely a feeble attempt at justification.
Trump should only deal with if he determines it is in his interest to do so. He doesn't need them, they need him. How pathetic.
The tree that falls in the forest. No one will hear whatever these people might say.
Yes the ratings are poor but the propaganda model has shifted. So while they collect some on network ad revenue their clips populate the new media and backwaters like Althouse. Views t’what matter to the propagandist. Trump brings views and we have no principles. Never mind we just got our heads handed to us, we’ll get em next time…
The theme I feel I'm picking up this morning is that the American Left is trying to find a different way to talk about Jan. 6, since (like their "convicted felon" Greek chorus) the incessant repetition of "fomented an insurrection" has failed to convince. Is this a sign of the Left's backing away from their progressive wing? Or just pragmatism - they now know that at least some of those who pay attention to things like MSNBC and the likes of Schumer and Pelosi dutifully listened to these refrains for years and voted for Trump anyway, so if the Left wants to have an audience, they have to give lip service to the "other side"?
well 'we're mostly jeering at them, they aren't very smart, of course if they actually showed any understanding most of their crew would rebel
Trump and his team should never entertain MSNBC. that gives the hacks and liars the credibility they are desperate for. NO. A dying hack network needs to ... die.
I’m not supportive of a government run by the emotions of people who watch MSNBC…
Mika and Joe--two very unloveable doofuses--realize that their old shtick won't work anymore. Doesn't matter--most of America isn't watching them anyway.
I did read this morning that Adam Schiff is sticking to his tired old Russian collusion claims. He's going to ride that thing to ignominy or glory. But mostly to irrelevance as a rather noisy junior Senator.
Hillary better get her ass to south Florida.
Our manipulative class is eventually going to cast a real right-wing ideologue as the next worse-than-Hitler.
The Trump clapback was fake,
How much of the insane media TDS rant is just acting?
"I didn't see your comment. So sorry!"
It's okay.
Thanks for changing the very long name.
The bad news is the spam filter is still choosing your comments to reject. I don't have other ideas about what's different about you. If you can think of anything else to change, you might experiment.
MSNBC IS dying. Trump and his team better not give them the time of day.
Trump has better things to do.
According the Brian Stelter at CNN- Trump allowed a meeting with Joe and Mika at Mar-a-lago? ????
What? If this is true - Trump hasn't learned anything.
Seems pretty obvious that hyphens might be a good place to start the "experimetation".
Last week; He's Hitler!!!
This week; We had a nice discussion with the Furher in his bunker and agreed to disagree.
So are they attempting to make sure that once the trains to the camps get rolling, they are not on one of the first cars? Or are they admitting that they have been lying all along and now are trying to get on the good side of 'Hitler', because reasons - like trying to salvage their on air gig? Maybe they could do an on air struggle session to atone for their lies? Maybe they should just go find a new line of work, like ditch digging.
"Brutus is an honorable man."
I've been commenting here under the same very short name for ~15 years, and some of my comments are caught in the trap, too, sometimes two or three on one post, though not in the last couple of weeks. And yes, they usually appear briefly and then disappear, which is disconcerting, but that's how the spam filter here works. If you think it's personal, or aimed at your politics, you're wrong. It's semi-random.
Exactly ... Trump must deplatform MSNBC and do not normalize those people.
Have they found any more dead bodies under Scarborough's desk lately?
its stelter he hasn't got something right in aeons,
He's been downgraded to figuratively Hitler now...
They for two welcome their new insect overlords...
Thank you, Ann.
MSNBC IS Garbage, absolute garbage and the faster it goes out of business the better for our country. They can say what they want, but they ARE garbage and their ratings would reflect that if we didn't have a massive number of close to mentally ill democrats.
The democrats have their panties in a wad ( a perpetual condition ) about Tulsi meeting with Assad when she visited Syria, you know to figure out why Obama was waging war on them. So you cannot even TALK to someone like Assad. How can you talk to literal HITLER!! Hoist them on a petard.
Tulsi Gabbard is being accussed of being an Assad "toady" because she DARED speak to him. Gleen Greenwald has a nice segment on Bari Weiss's smear of Tulsi on the Joe Rogan show. Joe as nice as can be showed Bari to be the clueless propagandist she is.
https://youtu.be/tj9-cAxykmw?si=o66kNbm8wkX3ID6P
Joe an Mika have some pretty heavy residential mortagage payments in some pretty exclusive areas that they would like to maintain.......
I hope they got patted down before entering. "Nothing personal."
On election night, MSNBC's ratings soared. A LOT of people were Hate-Watching to see the meltdown.
Looked to me like Mika was not finding her crow dinner tasty.
Those two reportedly make EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS EACH, each year, for hosting their relatively unwatched show, and recognize that this incredible gravy train will be putting passengers off PDQ if ratings continue to freefall post-election. Money talks, and money walks, and money makes their world go 'round. A month ago, the money was there to say Trump was Hitler. Now the money is there to say "We have access to the President, watch us each morning!" Here's hoping Trump publicly abjures them for 12 months immediately upon their first recidivistic broadcast, which I'm guessing will be at most in about two or three days, if that long.
The average MSNBC viewer is seventy years old. Morning Joe has fewer than 100,000 viewers age 25-55, which means they could all fit inside a Midwestern football stadium. There are knitting podcasts with larger audiences. Why do we even talk about Joe + Ho?
Supposedly, a lot of ruling class elders enjoy their screeds.
Mostly for giggles, now will jon mecham stab himself with a stylus
Now I see today's theme: invasive species.
F*** them.
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They are propped up by the corrupt machine.
Things I hope were said:
Joe, great news! We’re gonna get to the bottom of your intern’s murder! Ain’t that great Joe?
They look better now than they did then. Was it the Trump effect, or did their plastic surgeons give them a tune-up.
That bit about "fourth chances" was a joke but watch for media types to take it seriously and start counting with their fingers.
Classic. Pulled off the air the day after Butler, and now this. LOSERS
Not surprising Trump would meet with them. The 3 go way back. They helped him get the nomination in 2016. He had a personal relationship with them even if they stopped meeting during his first administration. And they know how to say the right things to him as well as push his buttons. The guy spent two hours at the White House last week.
I agree with Begley that Elon should buy msnbc (and cnn?)
Disagree he should fire them. He'd have to pay out their contracts.
Make Maddow et al spend each show talking about what a great guy the president is, how unfairly they e mistreated him an generally supporting him, his team and his policies.
With any luck Musk would be having them pay him to buy out of their contracts.
John Henry
Trump on the high road!
"How many times should I forgive my brother? Seven times?"
"Seventy times seven."
(That's 490 times, for you apology counters out there)
Holy Smolette - I'm in agreement with Olberdouche - on this one thing. One.
Mika’s dad oversaw the fall of Afghanistan to the Russians and ran to he mullahs. How he has escaped criticism s beyond me.
I cannot get over the fact that Trump has a million things to do - and this is what he chooses to allow?
Where are his people telling him to shut the door on the whole (hole!) that is MSNBC?
Perhaps the better NY Post article: https://nypost.com/2024/11/17/opinion/nancy-pelosi-is-finished-no-one-deserves-more-blame-for-dems-1b-electoral-collapse/
Only flaw is that it doesn't go far enough in assessing Nancy D'Alesandro De Medici's sins against the Constitution and the rule of law, starting with the endless-impeachments farce. But don't cry for Nancy! She has much to console herself with stocked in her Sub-Zero freezer. Let her eat ice cream and tell anyone who will listen how important she once was.
They bragged about their election night ratings. That was me watching for the inevitable meltdown.
fake news, besides trump is not going to confirm it
She was literally in tears, crying about the prospect of the dystopia to come unless people listened to her and refused to vote for Orange Man Bad. She was weeping for the girls and women who would be stripped of rights. If she truly suffered a breakdown, perhaps she'll never recover. If she was just using using extreme rhetoric in the furtherance of Leftist politics, she probably is angry. Anger seems to be the dominant mood on the side that fancies itself "reality based."
The other Joe pretending to be POTUS loves them. For some reason that matters to lefties.
I just got off the phone with a work colleague. She ranted and ranted against Trump. She really thinks he is Hitler. I'm exhausted listening to her. and I let her speak. I have a headache. These people are mentally ill.
This is from CTH:
“When facing undeniable irrelevance, egoists always move toward the spotlight; because if there is one consistent truth within all human psychology, it’s the constant need for narcissists to find new supply.”
Well said.
This is up there with Maxwell Smart's "Listen, I hope I wasn't out of line with that crack about the big ugly gorilla.".
I would welcome a strongly reformist Trump agenda conducted in an atmosphere of adherence to cultural and constitutional norms. Meetings like this nudge us toward that outcome. I don't want Dems to feel defeated so much as I want them to be reconciled to the legitimacy of a process that will entail actual change.
And... Now... It's...
Springtime
For Mika
And Morning Joe...
What can you say about Mika/scarborough? I mean these two were so viciously and stupidly anti-Trump and so full of hate, that when Trump was shot, MSNBC pulled their Monday show. Why because the MSNBC execs were afraid Mika/Joe would say something so obnoxious or scummy that MSNBC would have to take action.
If the two would-be assassians hated Trump it was because people like Mika/Joe were pumping out "Trump is Hitler" propgaganda every day for the last 9 years. Wasn't Mika bursting into tears when Trump was elected?
But now, we're all buddies and pals again.
There's a media plan for dealing with Trump 2.0.
I don't know what it is but this is a part of it.
Not sure if anyone else addressed this, but here goes...
I too wondered why Trump would bother with anyone who called him all kinds of negative things up until very recently. Why give them a hint at legitimacy?
But then I thought that, by giving them air time with him after all they'd said, that he was actually delegitimizing them, by showing the contrast between what they were so recently screeching about, and what they just did.
I mean, if you really believed that Trump was Hitler, et al., would you really do a (presumably; I haven't seen it) calm interview with him?
And if you did a calm interview with Trump, doesn't that make him something a great deal less dangerous than what you were claiming?
"But then I thought that, by giving them air time with him after all they'd said, that he was actually delegitimizing them, by showing the contrast between what they were so recently screeching about, and what they just did."
Trump is demonstrating for the world who the adult is here. And it's not Joe and Mika.
Amusing, is it not, the Joe and his frau made the trip to the Berghof?
I hope Hitler qua Trump let them wait in the foyer for a little while.
It's possible. But it's also good to remember that, while Trump got 76½ million votes so far, Kamala got almost 74 million. The election is very far from being a clean sweep, and those voters are a long way from changing their views simply as a result of the vote count.
MSNBC, CNN et al. will change their programming to reflect the New Reality, and then start to subtly condition their audiences to vote properly in 2028. Their job is not journalism.
Not surprising Trump would meet with them.
I agree with that. Trump knows that meeting with people, even people you don't like or trust, is a prerequisite for almost any-constructive-thing. The surprise is that, given their on-air statements about how dangerous (and also distasteful) he is, they are willing to meet with him.
(Of course they have to be willing. And of course I think they never believed the "dangerous" part, though I'm much less sure about the "distasteful" part.)
...they know how to say the right things to him as well as push his buttons.
The problem is not Trump's buttons. The problem is their credulous viewers' buttons, who - if they didn't have an opinion about Trump but were looking for information on which to base one - heard the constant assertions of "threat to democracy," "fascist," "racist," "predator," "felon," backed with deceptively edited and context-free quotes, anonymous accusations, propaganda videos with Hollywood-level production values. And now they think they know something true about Trump.
But what do they know? That he's a threat to democracy? Why did he leave the White House under his own steam on 1/20/20? That he's a fascist? Why did he insist that the COVID lockdowns move to states' decisions immediately after the "two weeks to slow the spread" that Mr. Science bamboozled him, and us, into going along with? A racist? What was with that NAACP award? A predator? Why do his ex-wives still get along with him? A felon? Because the great state of New York finally decided to dust off that statute that some eager junior lawyer excitedly told them could be massaged into a weapon that could and would only be used against Trump?
But they - not just Joe and Mika but their whole disordered tribe - are very good at pushing those viewers' buttons. My mother-in-law can barely even say his name - if she were Italian or Greek, she'd spit on the ground any time she was forced to refer to him. They took a lovely, kind, gentle 80yo woman and turned her into a vicious crazy person who literally said she wanted to put a bullet in his head. They did the same to my dad, a sane, intelligent, career Air Force officer, Vietnam helicopter pilot, eventual school teacher, all-around good man - who said that if he could, he would blow Trump up.
They did this on purpose, for fun and ratings, and to feel sooo good about themselves.
"The bad news is the spam filter is still choosing your comments to reject. I don't have other ideas about what's different about you. If you can think of anything else to change, you might experiment."
Actually, I think it did work.
The name change went in retrospectively, so I saw some things in spam with the new name, but new comments that went in with that name avoided the filter (I think!).
I hope they were thoroughly patted down before being let in to meet him.
You know who else reached out and forgave his media detractors? Hitler!!!
"They did this on purpose, for fun and ratings, and to feel sooo good about themselves."
As well, they made a fair amount of money peddling a lie they almost certainly do not believe and that real-world evidence disproves.
Yes- unless you create a separate account, name changes apply across all the past comments written on that account.
Farther up thread someone (or many someones) said that a lot of folks STILL oppose Trump as President. Speaking for myself, I STILL oppose FDR, JFK, LBJ, and several others, as President, but they were declared to have won their elections, so they became President.
A whole bunch of folks think that for some reason "TRUMP IS DIFFERENT", but he's not. Should he have been declared the winner in 2020? That's water under the bridge.
Should he be declared the winner in 2024. Of course. Do we have to support his policies? No, of course not. But we have to acknowledge him as President (as we did all sorts of Presidents we didn't like).
Yay. Thank you kind Blog Hostess.
". I am always looking to give a second and even third chance, but never willing to give a fourth chance,” he said. “That is where I hold the line.”
He said, with a twinkle in his eye.
Man, he has them right where he wants them. If they had an ounce of integrity, it wouldn't work.
But they don't, and Trump knows that.
If Joe and Mika had their way Trump would have long since been dead. Expecting a forgiveness from DJT for them would even be beyond Jesus. After Easter morning he was never was fool enough to go back to see the Sanhedrin guys to get along with them.
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