October 17, 2024

Somehow we don't have the definitive lip-reading on this yet.

ADDED: The NY Post got the lip-reader analysis I wanted. From "Biden tells Obama ‘she’s not as strong as me’ — and ex-prez agrees ‘that’s true’ at Ethel Kennedy service":
“She’s not as strong as me,” said Biden, 81, according to the translation....
“I know … that’s true,” [Obama] agreed, adding, “We have time.” 
“Yeah, we’ll get it in time,” said Biden....

125 comments:

mccullough said...

Obama starting to look old. Who is the lady next to Clinton?

Michael K said...

Bill Clinton stayed as far away as he could.

JRoberts said...

"Who is the lady next to Clinton?"

That's no lady, that's Nancy Pelosi.

Peachy said...

Huh? Unless someone can lip read - how would we know it's "scolding"?

mccullough said...

Good call. She looks different from that angle.

mccullough said...

Gestures and body language (crossed arms). Obama looks flustered and Biden looks like he’s pretending not to enjoy Obama’s frustration.

Another old lawyer said...

Multiple versions of comical dubbing on X, though. YMMV on "comical".

Kate said...

Everyone around them is facing the other way because the procession has begun. Rude. Clinton finally waves at them, like, "STFU."

Iman said...

Not definitive? I’ve got that right here…

https://x.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1846684133298159702?s=19

gspencer said...

Bill delivered the best eulogy that the children of any mother could ever hope to hear, "Hey, I really wanted to bang your mother. And I know she really wanted it too."

RideSpaceMountain said...

I have never seen a current POTUS look more pathetic. Good god he looks like some black sheep uncle at a distant relative's funeral.

Saint Croix said...

I love that. Second time I watched it, I realized that was Bill Clinton at the end. "Women looking fine up in here."

Amexpat said...

Funny stuff. It sounds like they used AI for the voices.

Eva Marie said...

That’s fantastic.

Lazarus said...

Interesting pecking order: Biden at the bottom, Obama higher and able to tell Joe no, but when Clinton speaks, or even gestures, the boys take notice.

Lazarus said...

I didn't think that was Pelosi next to Clinton, but it is. It's surprising how short she is. She also seems frailer than she does in television interviews.

wendybar said...

If you watch the video, it looks like old Bill was inching closer trying to eavesdrop.

Yancey Ward said...

Here is just one of them

RideSpaceMountain said...

"Never underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up, right Bill?"

Lazarus said...

To me it looked more like Joe wanted something and Barack didn't want to give that to him and Joe was hurt by that.

RCOCEAN II said...

Obama: blah, blah, blah
Biden: Yes boss
Obama blah blah
Biden: Can I have some oatmeal?

Breezy said...

Pelosi I think

Kakistocracy said...


🚨 OT
The Federal Trade Commission has instituted a new rule that makes it much easier for customers to cancel unwanted subscriptions and memberships. When will Lina Khan's reign of terror finally end?

Ann Althouse said...

I've heard some of the comedy dubs but didn't find them too funny. Don't like the use of the "r" word. It's insulting to innocent and beloved bystanders. I want to know what they're really saying.

JRoberts said...

Even without audio, Obama comes across as an arrogant SOB. Look at the dismissive hand gestures as he talks down to Biden.

Breezy said...

Me, too. I don’t think it’ll be funny.

Dixcus said...

Surprised the Daily Mail hasn't done this yet. They certainly do it any time they catch the Royals whispering amongst themselves.

My suspicion, based on a lifetime of watching these people is that there is in fact a lip-reading. And that it's not being released.

Rocco said...

The guys at Bad Lip Reading on YouTube haven’t posted anything yet.

Dixcus said...

Biden has been revealed as a simp. Taken out by a girl (Nancy Pelosi). I'd be dismissive of him too. He's supposed to be the leader of the Free World and he looks like he has Barack Obama's hand up his ass.

Saint Croix said...

Here's the bad lip-reading of the State of the Union (2023)

Iman said...

Democrats are disrespectful of EVERYONE… in thinking that this Harris Clownshow Campaign with no substantive talk would suffice

tommyesq said...

Maybe Obama was dismissive because he thought he was speaking to Bill Clinton rather than Joe Biden.

wild chicken said...

Wants Biden to be more supportive of Harris
No passive aggressive shit. How galling to be lectured by that punk.

Keep it up, joe! You're doing fine. Lol

rehajm said...

It really doesn’t matter what they’re saying. For the current election Their expressions and body language is really all you need to know…

Megthered said...

They're probably talking about how bad Kammie is doing. Maybe Joe is asking to come back in and Bammy is telling him no and why it's the end of the road for them.

Joe Smith said...

The joke audio overlays are funny, but somebody must have actual lip-reading skills. There is probably some really good stuff here.

David53 said...

“Women looking fine up here” lol

Lilly, a dog said...

The NY Post is claiming this:
https://nypost.com/2024/10/17/us-news/biden-told-obama-shes-not-as-strong-as-me-and-ex-prez-agreed-thats-true-at-ethel-kennedy-funeral/

David53 said...

I don’t like the use of the “f” word for the same reason, especially in a church but in the 21st century it’s apparently ok.

Iman said...

The Democrat candidate: Kamala “CliffsNotes” Harris.

She’s NEVER “done the work”.

Dixcus said...

The Daily Mail has now released the lip-reading: Nothing of substance was said except that Kamala Harris is a poor candidate, and Obama agrees.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13971075/What-Biden-Obama-said-intense-moment-Ethel-Kennedys-funeral.html

Dixcus said...

They certainly do seem concerned. It's obvious they've been reading the internal polls (the real polls that the candidates do themselves ... not the fake polls released in the media to hype up whatever story line they have pre-written.)

BUMBLE BEE said...

I watched Kamala on Fox last night. He facial expressions were really enjoyable!

Peachy said...

Ok - here is wHat Obama said to Joe.
'You are not invited to MY Hawaiian paradise mega-millions compound. You are also not invited to Martha's Vineyard Maison-Compound. I'm not wiping your ass, old man. You take that hidden pay-to-play money we promised you'd have access to - and ride off into the sunset. Hear me? '

Dixcus said...

The Daily Mail has front-paged their lip reading finally. I can't post a link to it because then Google deletes the comment.

Yes, Google is SUPRESSING negative news about Democrats.

RideSpaceMountain said...

If this is even mostly plausible, then it tells me Obama (and others) are not worried that "Kamala is not as strong as Joe". Popularism doesn't matter if the fix is already in.

Iman said...

They’re fighting for who’s the weakest suck on the scene. It’s a tough call.

Dixcus said...

The Daily Mail reports that Obama agreed with Biden that Kamala is not a very good candidate. The Chicago Wing (Clinton\Obama) has been deliberately undermining the California Wing (Pelosi\Newsom\Harris) in every way possible.

Christopher B said...

I thought that from the thumbnail of the video of him hectoring black men about not voting for Harris.

Lazarus said...

Looking back over my life, I wonder how many times when I thought I was the regal Obama surrounded by suppliant Bidens, I was actually Joe to other people's Baracks.

Iman said...
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Lem Vibe Bandit said...

This is not sports but maybe Jomboy can make an exception.

Let me check his timeline, maybe he’s on it.

Iman said...
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Jupiter said...

Now there's an "r" word?

rhhardin said...

The Airbus shouts "retard" right after every landing.

Rabel said...

Why are they facing the wrong direction? The action is behind them.

Bob Boyd said...


I'm good at lip-reading and I'm pretty sure Biden said,
"A lady that I know just came from Columbia"
Then he smiled because Obama did not understand.
Biden said,
"She brought me some Marijuana, ha ha,
She said it was the best in all the land"

And then Obama said to Biden,
"No, no, no, no, I don't smoke it no more
I'm tired of waking up on the floor
No, thank you, please, it only makes me sneeze
Then it makes it hard to find the door"

rehajm said...

Let’s deep dive on it a bit- I don’t know what all y’all see but I see two old men ignoring the required decorum of the moment, only a few words away from completely losing their shit (as opposed to the default configuration of just the one). I know that might be hard for some of you ladies who never have your shit together to recognize, hence late term abortion being your primo uno and all, but stick with me. These two men are engaged in some kind of serious crisis. Contrast their status with the mood of the left on the eve of the last time the first woman President was being coronated. These are not the breezy smiles and contemptuous smirks of that night. These men are in crisis and it isn’t over the second first woman President’s victory party libations, complaining that Oprah is bogarting all the Roederer in the country again…

Iman said...

A woman Barcky know just came from Majorca Spain
She smiled because Joe did not understand
Then she held out a 10 pound bag of Cocaine
She said it was the best in all the land
And Joe said:
No no no no, I don't hoover no more
I'm tired of waking up on the floor
No, thank you, please,
It only makes me sneeze
And Hunter calls his dealer for some more

Iman said...
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Ralph L said...

I'm sure they were talking about how nice Ethel Kennedy was.

tim maguire said...

Joe: Put me back in, coach, I can do it!
Obama: No. Not gonna happen.
Joe: Then get me some ice cream.

Dogma and Pony Show said...

How accurate is ANY lip-reading? I doubt that anyone would be skilled enough to lip-read exactly what they were saying from that distance and under those lighting conditions.

Naturally, everyone is speculating that they were arguing over a subject that WE'RE interested in. But it could have about anything. Obama could have been complaining that someone in Biden's administration had failed to take some action on somebody's behalf -- maybe give them a job -- after Obama had put in the good word for that person.

rhhardin said...

The NY Post claims to have a professional lip reading.

rhhardin said...

lip reading

Yancey Ward said...

Obama: "Joe, why the fuck did you send that tweet endorsing Harris?"
Biden: "Uh, Barack I didn't"
Obama: "It is President Obama to you, Joe."
Biden: "Uh, sorry, sir. As I was saying.....uh......where was I?"
Obama: "Or, for fuck's sake, Joe, you were saying you didn't send the tweet!"
Biden: "Oh, yeah, right- I was saying.....where was I?"
Obama: "*&&&^*(^%%%%"

baghdadbob said...

If this lip reader is court-certified, and he read this Obama-Biden exchange, why are we given two sentences and a characterization of the rest? Give us the whole conversation, without your interpretation, and we can synch it to the video and decide for ourselves. Is that too much to ask, NY Post?

TeaBagHag said...

" Tough luck Joe! Somehow those MAGAts pegged you as an over the hill, demented, doddering old fool but give their cult leader a pass, as he literally sundowns at every event we see him at. The events that he doesn't cancel, dance a jig through or weave a shit tapestry of nonsense, instead of answering ANY questions. "

Mr. Majestyk said...

Yes, I was expecting the whole transcript.

TreeJoe said...

https://nypost.com/2024/10/17/us-news/biden-told-obama-shes-not-as-strong-as-me-and-ex-prez-agreed-thats-true-at-ethel-kennedy-funeral/

Aught Severn said...

Now there's an "r" word?

First time I ran into someone who was deeply offended by the use of retard or retarded as an epithet was about 10 years ago. In my opinion, sensitivity to that particular word seems beyond the pale, why is it any worse than calling someone stupid, an idiot, or a moron? They are all synonyms, so why choose that particular one to be sensitive about?

But asperity is not really my style in the presence of others, so whatever particular insult I choose to toss out to myself is the business of neither the target of my ire nor the non-existant witnesses. The old tree falling in the forest situation.

Aught Severn said...

Now there's an "r" word?

First time I ran into someone who was deeply offended by the use of retard or retarded as an epithet was about 10 years ago. In my opinion, sensitivity to that particular word seems beyond the pale, why is it any worse than calling someone stupid, an idiot, or a moron? They are all synonyms, so why choose that particular one to be sensitive about?

But asperity is not really my style in the presence of others, so whatever particular insult I choose to toss out to myself is the business of neither the target of my ire nor the non-existant witnesses. The old tree falling in the forest situation.

Inga said...

They’re discussing how Trump is trying to pay off Stormy Daniels for a second time and how stupid can he get?

RideSpaceMountain said...

"That's the Chicago Way!" - Jim Malone (Sean Connery)

Michael K said...

Poor dullard. Reduced to lying again. Poor "Stormy" having to pay $200,000 to Trump for her lies.

Inga said...

October Surprise?!

Trump is a cancelling even more interviews, what is he afraid of? What could Stormy Daniels say that made him offer a second deal to shut her up?

Yancey Ward said...

That is a sign of real desperation, Inga.

Inga said...

https://www.rawstory.com/stormy-daniels-2669412796/

“We have just learned, we have reported out – 20 days before this election – we can report that he is once again trying to pay Stormy Daniels to be quiet,” Maddow said Wednesday night as part of a breaking news “special report.”

Maddow said it was during Daniels' negotiations to settle the amount of money she would owe Trump that his attorneys tried again to make a deal.

“They want to cut some sort of deal where they silence you,” Daniels’ attorney is heard telling the porn actress in a video recorded by Daniels.

“In the midst of this negotiation over paying off the last legal settlement between them, Trump is trying to get another hush money deal with Stormy Daniels ahead of this election,” Maddow said. “Trump’s lawyer basically offered to take it off the bottom line. They would pretend that Stormy Daniels owed less money to Trump than they actually believed she owed if she also signed an agreement to not talk about Trump.”

Inga said...

No desperation at all, just the facts. Harris would’ve won even without this latest idiotic move by Trump.

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

The fake voice over is funny.

Darkisland said...

The timing on your car engine is automatically retarded to match the power requirment. I hope you are OK with that.

Inga said...

“In a case separate from the hush money trial, Daniels was ordered to pay for Trump’s legal fees after she lost a defamation suit she filed against him. About two months after the hush money trial, Trump’s lawyer told Daniels’ representative that the former president would agree to a lower payment if she agreed not to make any disparaging comments about Trump.

“We disagree that a payment of $620,000 would be in full satisfaction of the three judgments,” Trump’s lawyers said in a July letter obtained by Maddow from Daniels’ lawyer.

“However, we can agree to settle these matters for $620,000, provided that your client agrees in writing to make no public or private statements related to any alleged past interactions with President Trump, or defamatory or disparaging statements about him, his businesses and/or any affiliates or his suitability as a candidate for President,” the letter continued.

Daniels’ lawyer declined the proposal, Maddow reported. Daniels’ lawyer told MSNBC that they ultimately settled on $627,500 but she did not agree to remain silent.“

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trumps-legal-team-tried-keep-stormy-daniels-quiet-ahead-2024-election-rcna175828

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

If what is apparent is true, the fix is in… again.

Original Mike said...

Well, it's going to be another Inga night…

Enlighten-NewJersey said...

How accurate? I think the deaf get pretty good at it. The forensic lip reader quoted in the Post was born deaf and for 16 years served as a University College London-certified expert witness for litigants, the police and journalists.

One Fine Day said...

America Hating Inga pushes a storyline from the Queen of Misinformation (Maddow). Prepare for the next batch of BS Dem talking points spewed out of Inga's spite hole!

Maddow and Inga still believe that Hunter's laptop was Russian disinfo and the Steele Dossier was total truth. Take anything America Hater Inga shares from America Hater Maddow with a large salt mine.

Hassayamper said...

"Retarded" was a genteel, polite replacement for "feeble-minded".

Which was itself a genteel, polite replacement for terms like "moron", "idiot", and "imbecile."

Which were themselves genteel, polite attempts to bring some euphemistic scientific rigor to replace "cretin".

Which itself was a genteel, polite replacement for terms of abuse like "fool", "blockhead" and "ninny", coming from the French chrétien, or "Christian", referring indirectly to the way those with mental disabilities were often cared for in monasteries and convents in the pre-modern Christian era.

A day is coming when the current euphemisms for "retarded" such as "developmentally delayed", "challenged", "mentally disabled", and "special-needs" will also be considered pejorative, and indignant leftists will attempt to have people fired from their jobs or put in prison for using them.

Similar shifts from highbrow politesse to vulgar offensiveness are well known in terms for bodily functions, sex roles, and racial classifications, a prominent example being the evolution from the various N-words to "dusky" and "swart" to "colored" to "black" to "Afro-American" to "African-American" and back again to "people of color".

Iman said...

Joe: “Everyone wants to have sex with me.”
Obama: ‘That’s not what “Fuck Joe Biden” means.’

Inga said...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/10/17/trump-tried-to-strike-another-hush-money-deal-with-stormy-daniels-before-2024-election-lawyer-says/

“Lawyers for former President Donald Trump asked adult film star Stormy Daniels in July not to disparage Trump ahead of the 2024 election in exchange for settling legal fees she owed him, Daniels’ lawyer told Forbes, despite Trump being found guilty on 34 felony counts based on a hush-money deal made with Daniels before the 2016 election.”

Iman said...

Oh, fuck me running… not another night of the Desperate CNA !!!

Peachy said...

I-nag gets her bullshit from Creep Liar Maddow. LOL.

Peachy said...

While the left toil in petty nonsense - the real world is passing Kamala by.

Peachy said...

I-nag- We all recall your yammering on about looking thru Maddow's binoculars over to the Russian Oligarchs discussing Trump on a Yacht. Not sure where you two were stationed. News!

Peachy said...

I-nag quotes:
“Lawyers for former President Donald Trump asked adult film star Stormy Daniels in July not to disparage Trump ahead of the 2024 election in exchange for settling legal fees she owed him, Daniels’ lawyer told Forbes, despite Trump being found guilty on 34 felony counts based on a hush-money deal made with Daniels before the 2016 election.”

You do know that hush-money payments are not illegal. Right?
Also -. Even if true - which is questionable.... And? so what?
Is there something illegal about this? is this another Soviet Democratic Felony?
In Maddow's eyes it is - because she is a Soviet Hack.

Inga said...
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Peachy said...

Between illegals voting and leftist ballot "counting" for days and days - yes the fix is in.

Inga said...
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Peachy said...

She already spilled the beans in the bogus trial. And she also claimed to have "blacked out"!
If she signed legal paperwork - she does owe him money. and? Big news on Maddow!
While the nation is F'ed up the ass by corrupt lying liars Biden-Kamala-Soros - Maddow knows what is important.

Original Mike said...

What happened to Vem?

Inga said...

Dunno, he’s your guy, not mine. I assume he’s resumed his pro Trump podcasts.

Peachy said...

I-nag - they were two Bogus expired misdemeanors. Everyone in business would go to jail!
Keep on buying the Soviet Crap on a cracker. Soviets like you remain loyal to the bitter end.

Peachy said...

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Do tell us - In Maddow's desperate words - why the move is idiotic? Perhaps it has to do with Stormy blacking out! Can Creepy Hack Judge Merchan clear his schedule? I bet he can.
It's Soviet Felony Season - folks!

narciso said...

Rocky Maddow, had a cut of the Carroll Grift

Peachy said...

Two bogus expired misdemeanors - I-Nag. Everyone in business would go to jail. (disappeared again)

Peachy said...

Do tell us - In Maddow's desperate words - why the move is idiotic? Perhaps it has to do with Stormy blacking out! Can Creepy Hack Judge Merchan clear his schedule? I bet he can.
It's Soviet Felony Season - folks!
********

Diogenes of Sinope said...

The organ music can be digitally processed out of the sound stream.

Inga said...

"We disagree that a payment of $620,000 would be in full satisfaction of the three judgments," Trump's lawyers stated in a letter to the actress, as they believed the correct amount she owed was around $650,000.

"However, we can agree to settle these matters for $620,000, provided that your client agrees in writing to make no public or private statements related to any alleged past interactions with President Trump, or defamatory or disparaging statements about him, his businesses and/or any affiliates or his suitability as a candidate for President," they added.“

The charges against Trump were that he violated New York Penal Law § 175.10 by falsifying business records.

Actually this may also fall under falsifying business records. His lawyer was trying to launder the money that was taken off her final payment to him in exchange for her silence. We will see.

Peachy said...

Tell us what Business Records he falsified. In detail.

Original Mike said...

That's all you could talk about the other night.
Dry hole, huh?

PM said...
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Iman said...

Word is Harris is skipping tonight’s Al Smith Dinner for fear teh Catholics will give her Last Rites.

Inga said...

What’s there to say about the guy I haven’t already said. We’ll have to wait until Jan. for his court hearing I suppose. But it’s pretty apparent there WAS no assassination attempt despite all the pearl clutching by you folks.

narciso said...

Lol

Original Mike said...

"despite all the pearl clutching by you folks."

Ahh, … I was the guy saying let's wait until more information comes out. Go back and check it out if you don't believe me.

Tina Trent said...

You know that new Cat Peleton commercial? The one where they lie and say the cat will get used to using the Peleton, but they can't even get stunt cat to use it?

It makes me think of the Harris campaign.

RMc said...

Ignatz's light blue icon makes her comments easy to bypass.

Jim at said...

Obama comes across as an arrogant SOB.

Know why? Because that's who he is. Always has been.

boatbuilder said...

The late, great, pure Boston stand-up comic Steve Sweeney: Tourist: "'I just love your accent. Can you say "Park your car at Harvard Yard?"' Bostonian: "What ah ya, retaahded?'

Scott Patton said...

Over a hundred comments and no Seinfeld reference?

n.n said...

Watch my moving lips, do you infer what they are smacking? You're a burden, not viable, a carbon footprint, sequester or abort, your choice.

boatbuilder said...

Jeezus, Inga.
Even if there is any truth to this (which is highly dubious, given the source), the offer is--If you will finally go away and cease and desist, you can keep the money that you owe us for the past defamation and extortion. Just go away.
Do you think that this somehow makes Trump look bad?
Also--if her lawyer rejected that deal and instead leaked to Maddow, that is malpractice on a scale that makes Avenatti look like Clarence Darrow.

Aggie said...

Obama does not like Joe and never did, and wastes no time dismissing whatever it is that Joe wants. My impression was that Clinton spotted the camera trained on the two and alerted them, which closed the conversation.

mikee said...

So Obama got the short straw when they decided who'd babysit the dementia patient during the event. Good to see he's still taking an active part in fulfilling the needs of the Democratic Party.

Rusty said...

RCP has Trump up in Wisconsin. Waukesha county is red.

Peachy said...

Bidne laudered our tax dollars for personal family grift.

Maddow lies and says legal procedure is money laundering. Not enough Fuck-yous for hack Soviet Rachel Mddow.