October 30, 2024

"Just moments ago, Joe Biden stated that our supporters are garbage."

"He's talking about the border patrol, he's talking about nurses, he's talking about teachers, he's talking about everyday Americans who love their country and want to dream big again and support you, Mr. President. And I hope their campaign is about to apologize for what Joe Biden just said. We are not garbage. We are patriots who love America and thank you for running Mr. President."

Said Marco Rubio to Donald Trump, on stage at Trump's rally in Allentown, Pennsylvania last night. Click the video below, which is cued up to the spot. Trump appears to be hearing this news of President Biden's statement for the first time.

Trump reacts: "Wow. That's terrible.... Remember Hillary? She said 'deplorable' and then she said 'irredeemable.' Right? But she said 'deplorable.' That didn't work out. 'Garbage,' I think is worse. Right? But he doesn't know. You have to please forgive him. Please forgive him! For he not knoweth what he said."

I believe that last bit was an attempt to evoke the words of Jesus"Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do." 

Trump continues: "These people. Terrible terrible terrible — to say a thing like that, but he really doesn't know. He really, honestly, he doesn't. And I'm convinced that he likes me more than he likes Kamala. Convinced. But that's a terrible thing."


It was a terrible thing to say, but you can see that Trump knows that Biden's rhetoric — like Hillary's "deplorable" — was an excellent gift to his campaign. And it came just as Kamala Harris was delivering her big closing-argument speech that was supposed to reach out to all Americans and to characterize her as the one who, unlike Trump, embraced everybody.

In the final days of her campaign, Ms. Harris is trying to separate the man from his movement. Gone is the framing of Republicans as “extreme MAGA,” the catchphrase attack adopted by Mr. Biden during the 2022 midterms. Instead, in ways big and small, Ms. Harris is extending an open hand to Republicans who may have voted for the former president in the past....  
Some in the Democratic Party — including the man who lives in the White House illuminated behind her on Tuesday — appear to be still reckoning with that new approach. Just before she took the stage, President Biden seemed to refer to those who support Mr. Trump as “garbage”...

 Just before she took the stage! 

... in a campaign call that quickly ricocheted across the internet, was seized upon by Republicans and the president himself soon sought to clarify on social media. Mr. Biden said he meant only the comedian at Mr. Trump’s Sunday rally who had called Puerto Rico an “island of garbage.”
What Biden said — here's the video — is: "The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters. His demonization of [Latinos?] is unconscionable. And it's un-American. It's totally contrary to everything we've done, everything we've been."

Why did Biden put himself out there yesterday, taking chances, stepping on her big speech? Does he just not know what he's doing? That's one of the things Trump said about it, but the other was "I'm convinced that he likes me more than he likes Kamala." Don't overlook the possibility that Biden is trying to hurt Kamala. It reminds me of the time Biden showed up at a White House press briefing and pulled attention away from a big Harris speech. Did he interfere on purpose? 

And what was that event of Biden's yesterday? I'm reading news articles and it's not easy to discern. For example, the NYT has "Trump and His Allies Link Biden’s ‘Garbage’ Comment to 2016 ‘Deplorables’ Remark/Within minutes of the clip of President Biden’s remarks going viral, the Trump campaign and others were using it to attack Kamala Harris and Democrats." You'd think somewhere in the first few paragraphs, we'd read about why Biden was sitting at a desk talking to a camera. But no. I have no idea what that event was supposed to be. The camera angle and fuzziness make it look like second-rate social media.

Googling, I get to the White House official page and see that it was a phone call: "Remarks by President Biden on a Call with Voto Latino."

IN THE COMMENTS: Kate writes:
The Weave here is so beautiful. The throughline: "terrible". He mixes in Hillary's deplorables, adds pity and forgiveness for Joe while emphasizing that Joe knows nothing, and then slides a delicious dig at Kamala before returning to "terrible". Anyone who can't appreciate The Weave should study this reaction. And it's all off-the-cuff.

And the Jesus joke. Who off-handedly tosses in a Jesus-on-the-cross parody? Is that a sacrilege? Or is it striking evidence that he really is a Christian? To think of forgiveness is to think of Jesus Christ.

ADDED: I can see that the White House transcript, linked above, has a transcription that is either accurate or designed to support the explanation that Biden was using the word "garbage" only to describe the remark the comedian Tony Hinchcliffe made about Puerto Rico ("floating island garbage"). Here's the transcription:
The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporter’s — his — his demonization of Latinos is unconscionable, and it’s un-American. It’s totally contrary to everything we’ve done, everything we’ve been.

The idea is that "his supporter" — singular — is Tony Hinchcliffe, and it only seems to be plural because of the possessive apostrophe-s. The 2 sentences are connected into one, and the "his" in "his supporter's/supporters" and the "his" in "his demonization" are not the same "his."

The first "his" is Trump's — Trump's supporter's/supporter — and the second "his" is Hinchcliffe's — Hinchcliffe's demonization.

This is the linguistic problem of coreference. You can explore it by replacing the 2 usages of the word "his" with the "his"s with referents. There are 2 interpretations:

1. The only garbage I see floating out there is Trump's supporter’s — Trump's supporter’s demonization of Latinos is unconscionable, and it’s un-American.
2. The only garbage I see floating out there is Trump's supporters. Trump's demonization of [Latinos?] is unconscionable. And it's un-American. 

A problem with interpretation #1 is that the word "is" appears twice. You have to see Biden as restarting the sentence. In the first effort, the subject is "garbage," but then he rearranges it, making "demonization" the subject. They could have used punctuation to stress this idea: "The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporter’s. His demonization of Latinos is unconscionable...."

I feel as though I'm deeper into the weeds than anyone will go. Is anyone still with me? Anyone interested in the problems of coreference and misperceived coreference? I doubt it. I suspect Harris supporters will snap up interpretation #1 and Trump supporters will laugh at the apostrophe argument and find interpretation #2 so obvious that I'm wasting their time.


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rehajm said...

Garbage People is kind of fun, though can we tweak it a bit and be The Heapsters- those people who wore black and lived in the junk yard?

I’m sifting through my wife’s stickers for the kiddies looking for trash cans…

rehajm said...

Actually the worst thing is the Trump pity for Biden, the knows not what he does part. Another sign our civilization is perhaps irreparably broken is everyone allowing the mentally damaged President serve out his term…

Dave Begley said...

Thank goodness Ann voted for Trump yesterday.

rehajm said...

Joe is Kamala’s walking talking tank helmet isn’t he?

rehajm said...

Omaha!

gilbar said...

just ask Inga!
Democrats NEVER dehumanize their opponents..
They just call them deplorables and GARBAGE, and demand their execution
right, Inga?

Blair said...

People need to vote like it matters, and prepare for the fact that it might not.

The Democrats scare me. They've gone insane, and I'm worried about what it will make them do.

Eva Marie said...

Biden was doing Kamala a favor. Now she can blame her loss on him.

rehajm said...

Best case is it’s mostly campaign rhetoric, then they wail and moan and kick open the box where they keep the Hawaiian judges. Hopefully we don’t have to see if the transvestite army is willing to die for country by taking on the regular army…

Wilbur said...

Whose vote is this going to switch from Harris to Trump?
No one's. If you're voting for Harris, you already believe Trump voters are garbage.

Steve said...

I'm starting to think that Biden wants Harris to lose so he can say to those who shoved him out the door "See, you morons! I'm the only person who could have beaten Trump AGAIN!"

Christopher B said...

At this point the objective is turnout, and Biden just became Trump's GOTV machine.

Kate said...

The Weave here is so beautiful. The throughline: "terrible". He mixes in Hillary's deplorables, adds pity and forgiveness for Joe while emphasizing that Joe knows nothing, and then slides a delicious dig at Kamala before returning to "terrible". Anyone who can't appreciate The Weave should study this reaction. And it's all off-the-cuff.

Christopher B said...

I recall him insisting that, and it's consistent with the Biden/Obama lip-reading a couple weeks ago.

Steve said...

On the old Fat Albert cartoon, the (black) kids hung out in a junkyard. If someone more clever than me could turn Biden's foot in the mouth around into a slur against black people it would be very entertaining.

Mr Wibble said...

Meh, the feeling is mutual: Biden supporters are subhuman.

Lloyd W. Robertson said...

In the ocean of internet craziness, I just learned there actually is a pile of garbage in Puerto Rico. They have a big solid waste problem. The MAGA folks didn't laugh at the joke.

Achilles said...

The key difference is that we think Democrat's actions are bad. Only garbage people support censorship and political violence and starting wars for profit.

Democrats call us garbage because we disagree with them politically.

They cannot be honest about why they call us garbage. They cannot discuss the issues in a substantive manner and resort to lying about pretty much everything.

Butkus51 said...

you have to respect a person in order to be insulted.

Old and slow said...

Bur if you are a putative Trump voter who is open to voting Harris to stop all the drama, and these people do exist, you might be offended enough at being called garbage to vote Trump instead.

Birches said...

I like the reaction from Trump. He gave love back instead of contention. I know the cons on Twitter are going crazy with (somewhat fake) outrage and I think it's a little dumb. But after two days of fake outrage over a joke from an insult comic, turnabout is fair play.

320Busdriver said...

Isn’t anyone deeply concerned that the USPS has made it so mail ballots do not transit the sort centers where a digital record of the mail is created?
This seems like another way to secure large scale cheating with mailed ballots.

Left Bank of the Charles said...

For it to be a gaffe, it must be true. Certainly we can all agree that Tony Hinchcliffe is garbage.

mikee said...

Harris is in the enviable position of knowing she has a machine behind her generating votes via mail-in ballot harvesting in the swing states, and that anything she or Biden or anyone else says doesn't matter as much as keeping her machine running, creating votes. However, she also knows that without the efforts of her machine those votes, the sole reason she has a chance to win this election, would not exist because she is a lousy candidate running on a lousy platform. Her election win will be, well, garbage.

rhhardin said...

Who is all this pretend taking offense for? My feeling is that it's for media hosts, to give them something to spin. I can't imagine actual offense taking.

The audience lets you grab them by the pussy, if you're a famous host. We'll act as if we're offended as part of the listening ritual, as a narrative thing.

Wince said...

Isn’t garbage food waste?

Wouldn’t that mean Biden’s uncle Bosie is a Trump supporter?

Political Junkie said...

Has the hostess told us who she voted for in 2024? I missed that post, I guess.

Rory said...

I can check Biden's statement against some of my immediate family, and they don't disagree with him. This is the legacy - and it was the intent - of the last ten years.

Wince said...

For it to be a gaffe, it must be true.

The truth revealed by the gaffe is how Biden and Democrats really think.

Joe Bar said...

Republicans SEIZing again. CNN said it was Joe's "stutter" again. Why the heck was Joe doing anything while Harris was doing to big sell on The Mall? Joe Rogan is a coward because he won't fly out to DC an get dissed by Harris. This is the most entertaining election in memory.

Tank said...

Cernovich
@Cernovich

Last night Jeff Bezos wrote an op-Ed in the Washington Post describing why people don’t trust the news.

Today the Washington Post lied about Joe Biden’s comments, which are on video, where he called Trump voters garbage.

Wince said...

Where is that “Trump is like Jesus” tag when you really need it?

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

A few disparate thoughts on this: Trump like many of us was raised reading the King James Version of the Bible, which is fun to emulate with its early 17th century language but also to my ear very beautiful. Trump like the Greek and Roman classicists puts a lot of emphasis on beauty, clearly appreciates beauty in many forms and derides it's opposite.
At this point, where the momentum has shifted toward him Trump has been displaying a lot of magnanimity and compassion towards Biden. This manner has completely flummoxed Leftists who continuously condemn him as a hater, a racist, a nazi etc. The McDonalds campaign stunt, the Rogan conversation, his actual speech at MSG all shine in sharp contrast to the evil dictator caricature the Left wants him to be. His decision to treat Biden with extraordinary goodwill is also unmistakably contrasted with Harris's inability to explain how she came to replace him and the fact she has shown little respect for the man who made her a viable candidate for the brief time that she was.
That's enough for now. Others have probably already made the other points I had in mind. (I really like this new ability to respond to comments + or - as needed!)

Shouting Thomas said...

Re-doing the Deplorables thing with a new twist! The Democrats hauled out Victoria Nuland to re-run the Russia collusion hoax last night. Another oldie but goodie.

Lawcruiter said...

Every Democrat politician must today be confronted with the following question, "Do you agree with President Biden that Donald Trump's supporters are garbage?"

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

When I was growing up kids always took the opportunity to go to "the dump" and (if possible) root around while the adults unloaded. Little did we know it could be a profession like antique archeology.

Bob Boyd said...

When Biden saw those comedians coming out of the fields with torches, he knew he had to do something.

Inga said...

“America is “like a garbage can for most of the world; they dump the people they don’t want.”

How quickly we forget.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

He is channeling the ghost of Kinsley and gaffing his way to next Tuesday.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Yes. Steve is correct.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

And here the turd shows up in the punchbowl again.

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Shouting Thomas said...

Did you see the Bee’s bit: “Democrats Scream in Fury After Spotting Child That Made it Out of the Womb Alive?” Right up your alley. What time the baby meat wagon arrive today? Any new recipes?

https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-scream-in-fury-after-spotting-child-that-made-it-out-of-the-womb-alive

Iman said...

He loves dat.dirty water.

Howard said...

What? No civility bullshit? Did someone get theyo feewungs hout? Pobrecito, lo siento mucho!! I think Trump nails it. Joe is a punched out stumble bum who hates the Obama machine for screwing him coming and going.

The coup de grass was bringing out the latina senator from the garbage island to anoint Donald with holy water " Thank you for the paper towels, Meester Prethiden.

Iman said...

They want Harris to lose because their game is what they’ll do after the election.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Gutfeld noticed this phenomenon the other night: (1) Trump or his side make a joke about something in the news. (2) Leftists/Democrats feign horror and pretend it's beyond civilized speech (see Left Bank at &:10 below). (3) Normies hear the joke and check the internet and see there is actually a nasty truth behind the joke and the media has been misreporting or ignoring the story (or the joke about it) to protect Democrats.

This campaign keeps demonstrating this 3-step process over and over. Just like they did about "Joe is impaired" and "eating cats and dogs" and "surgery for trans aliens in custody" and on and on.

Unknown said...

I thought I was a Nazi. Now they say I’m garbage. Am I both? Can I be both? So confused.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

I meant "Left Bank at 7:10 below..."

Two-eyed Jack said...

I don't believe that Joe was referring to all Trump supporters, just the speakers at the "Nazi" rally. But having lost a lot of verbal facility, he phrased it poorly and it blew up in his face. Good. Nothing could be more appropriate.

Eric the Fruit Bat said...

Joe Biden circles Uranus looking for Klingons.

Dixcus said...

"Kamala Harris was delivering her big closing-argument speech that was supposed to reach out to all Americans"

HA. That's a good one, Althouse.

She gave the speech at the site of the January 6 "insurrection" that resulted in the establishment of POLITICAL PRISONERS and GULAGS in the United States for the first time since Democrats put hundreds of thousands of Japanese people into US concentration camps.

[CENSORED] Kamala Harris. She wants the country divided and her half with all the money.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

A Kinsley Gaffe is revealing what they truly think instead of sticking to their PC script. Biden was demonstrating a Kinsley Gaffe. No humans are literally garbage. Only a Leftist could say such a thing.

Dixcus said...

Was that Nazi rally the one that Bill Clinton and Al Gore did at Madison Square Garden, or the one that Jimmy Carter did at Madison Square Garden?

Iman said...

Go squeeze the Charmin somewhere else.

Dixcus said...

It's worse: Hillary Clinton said Americans were IRREDEEMABLE and so they opened the southern border to replace all of us.

planetgeo said...

Political Junkie, we were suggesting yesterday that IF Ann wanted to give us an "audible" as a signal to show how she voted, she could yell "Omaha!" as she left the polling place. That would tell us that she voted like Begley, our Nebraska commenter.

rehajm said...

I was an adult for a while before I was taught this. In the suburbs of Boston garbage was food waste- meat and organic stuff you dumped into this pail buried in the side yard with a foot pedal lid to keep the grizzly bears out/s. A stinky old truck came by once a week to empty the pail. Trash was paper and most everything else you put in a green 'garbage' bag...nay, trash bag.

Dixcus said...

Also, please buy ammunition like it matters, because the elections are rigged. We are not going to be allowed to vote our way out of this.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

She and her Bob can ride off into the sunset and never return and we'd all be better off.

Dixcus said...

Whose vote, Wilbur? Well, Ann Althouse was UNDECIDED in the line at the voting booth yesterday.

Women's votes. That's who.

West TX Intermediate Crude said...

Left Bank of the Charles said...
For it to be a gaffe, it must be true. Certainly we can all agree that Tony Hinchcliffe is garbage.


Even worse, he's not funny...

Masscon said...

Marco Rubio was born in the USA and his family is from Cuba not Puerto Rico genius. Stick your coup de grass right up your...

Dixcus said...

Biden is the only person who's ever "beaten" Trump (albeit in a stolen election, but then again he's the only one who's been able to steal an election over Trump.)

Rusty said...

How easily you miss the point. Shouldn't you be out trashing "Trump'' signs?

Dixcus said...

They're going to murder Trump. In public. With everybody watching. And get away with it. Just like they did to Jack Kennedy.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Yes Inga the rest of the world is treating our precious country like a garbage can. But that's not the crime. Trump noticing it and having the balls to say it out loud is the crime. While your pouncing on this comment did you hear the context that he will fix the problem and Make America Great Again because he loves this country?

That's the Big Difference. Demented Biden did not say "garbage" because he loves Trump supporters and wants to save us. He wants us in jail, or banished, no doubt censored at least. The Big Difference is the thing your Trump hate keeps you from seeing.

Howard said...

The Obama DNC Media complex isn't that smart.

Iman said...

They picked her because they knew she’d lose.Their play is after the Big Game.

donald said...

Whole thing just flew right by your smarmy despicable head. Nice.

Inga said...

Marco Rubio hopes to get a nod from Trump for some position, here’s what he thought about Trump in 2016.

"He is a con artist," Rubio said. "He runs on this idea he is fighting for the little guy, but he has spent his entire career sticking it to the little guy — his entire career."

Cappy said...

Welp, tomorrow is trash pickup, so time for me to go to the curb.

donald said...

Yes he was. You’re overthinking. I mean, have ya SEEN the last four years.

planetgeo said...

I wouldn't call it the Weave. It's more like Stir Fry. He tosses in all their word salad veggies, throws in some red meat and sriracha, and then he turns up the heat to 11. They are amateurs. He's the Iron Chef of Stir Fry.

Dixcus said...

Inga, Marco Rubio has grown in office and his position on Trump has evolved throughout the years. You know, like Kamala did when she flip-flopped on fracking.

Howard said...

The first time I heard Rush Limbaugh was September 1989 driving from Sacramento to Oakland. It was a rerun of a recent show and a caller let Rush know it was the 1-year anniversary of the Michael Dukakis tank helmet debacle. Comedy Gold.

Inga said...

“Donald Trump has been perhaps the most vulgar – no I don’t think perhaps – the most vulgar person to ever aspire to the presidency in terms of how he’s carried out his candidacy.”

“Look, sometimes when someone is as offensive as he is, repeatedly, he needs to get a taste of his own medicine,” Rubio said. “And let’s be clear, nothing I have ever said comes anything close to what Donald Trump says regularly on a daily and routine basis. Not once.”

https://www.cnn.com/2016/03/04/politics/marco-rubio-donald-trump-vulgar/index.html

donald said...

Biden looks like he’s already embalmed. He sounds just about as bad.

Inga said...

“Marco Rubio has grown in office…”

Oh? So now Trump won’t call him “Little Marco” anymore, well that‘s good.

Howard said...

What is the big game? Elevating Obama's Manchurian candidate, JD Vance, to the presidency? I think you've got Joebidenitis

Inga said...

Good thing he’s not running for president!

Barry Sullivan said...

Well you know what they say -- GIJO (garbage in, Joe out).

Iman said...

Nuland better be riding a Clydesdale, she’ll kill anything smaller.

Shouting Thomas said...

Isn’t it about time to fire up the cauldron, Inga? Only a couple of hours until lunch!

planetgeo said...

There is nothing more ominous than seeing Democrats circling Uranus.

John henry said...

Suggested on X: that Donald Trump do a photo op on collecting garbage and throwing in the truck.

Wish I'd thought of that.

John Henry

NorthOfTheOneOhOne aka Doug Emhoff's Pimp Hand said...

Don't rule out that it may just be his ego smarting because everyone's paying attention to Kamala and not him.

Howard said...

Watch the clip to the end. Trump calls out a hot Latina senator from Puerto Rico to coochie coo for Meester Prethiden.

Iman said...

How quickly she turns on her shitbird hero.

Inga said...

Well, take heart, as the old proverb says “One man's trash is another man’s treasure”.

Lazarus said...

One might have thought that all the talk about Biden wanting revenge on Harris and Pelosi (and Obama?) was just melodramatic nonsense, but here's Kamala having her big rally and Joe upstages her and grabs the headlines away. Harris was actually able to read a coherent speech, carefully enunciating each sentence, and Joe tanks her. Harris told us that Donald Trump was consumed by the desire for vengeance, but that applies a lot more to Biden than to Trump.

Jersey Fled said...

From Ben Shapiro:

“Hey guys, good news: if ever you find yourself in trouble, just claim that a plural noun is actually a singular possessive with an apostrophe. Amazing get of jail free trick!”

Kevin said...

We just need to wait until Bad Bunny tells us what to think.

planetgeo said...

The reason Joe's no longer running for President, Inga, is that your team executed a successful coup against him as the democratically elected candidate of your part. Why does Democracy die in the hands of your team?

P.S., if you agree he's effectively dead/embalmed, why did your team then leave him in there, endangering our country?

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AMDG said...

For services rendered to the Trump campaign it is likely that Joel’s reward will be a pardon for Hunter.

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West TX Intermediate Crude said...

24 hours ago, received wisdom was that this Tony person, whose name I had literally never heard, had done the R side a terrible disservice by saying the most racist, hateful, nazi, deplorable thing ever about our Puerto Rican countrymen. The Puerto Rican community, and their rainbow compadres, will now vote even harder for Harris, having had their feeling hurt (ignoring the fact that every Puerto Rican who is eligible to vote has left the island because it is literally and figuratively strewn with garbage).

Now he seems like a genius, by provoking the entirely predictable response by the D sitting president, that anyone who supports the R candidate is "garbage." Now all 80 million of us will vote, harder and faster and stronger. A lot more of us that there are Puerto Ricans.

Hats off to this Tony guy. He's now known nationwide, and has made Trump's victory more certain. Talk about 3-D chess!

Howard said...

Until Biden's garbage gaff, I thought Hinchcliff bombed at the Nuremberg Rally. Wrong. He Killed. No wonder they call him Kill Tony.

Howard said...

He has the most popular podcast on YouTube called kill Tony. It's like America's got talent for stand-up comedians it's the most hilarious show of all time. Joe Bob says check it out

Drago said...

I can't be trash! You see, I was born to a middle class family...

Dave Begley said...

Ann won’t tell us that she voted for Trump until after Election Day.

pacwest said...

Inga makes a very good point here. The people she quotes to show that they didn't like Trump very much before they knew him are now his supporters. Earned respect. As the left likes to point out it has happened again and again. From both sides of the isle. Thanks for pointing that out Inga.

alfromchgo said...

Oscar the Grouch t shirts would put up pic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_the_Grouch

Inga said...

Nah, Biden’s old man gaff didn’t take anything away from Harris’ speech. I know that’s what you folks want to think, but no it really didn’t. 75,000 people, a “love fest” as Trump might say.

Howard said...

I thought you were born and some Central valley shithole off the 99. The only way you'd be whiteer trash than that would be be from Oildale.

n.n said...

Is the issue garbage or waste management?

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Rocco said...

Is Biden misremembering the Garbage Pail Kids?

n.n said...

Biological garbage (e.g. aborted babies... fetuses) can be hazardous material inside and outside the womb, room.

Big Mike said...

Althouse took advantage of the fact that RFK Jr. is on the ballot to cast a protest vote.

Iman said...

…and with that, she crawled back under the wet cardboard.

Sebastian said...

So, deplorable nazi garbage. Silver lining: no civility BS from Dems. Contempt out in the open. They despise us: message received.

RCOCEAN II said...

"Garbage People" isn't much worse then labels like Nazi or Traitor or Racist that Biden has thrown at Trump and his supporters, in the past.

And why this weird compunction on the part of MAGA supporters and conservatives in general to keep laughing off the leftwing Hate that Biden and the Liberal establishment have for you? Or playing little lord fountleroy, stoically taking all the hate with a smile?

To misquote Sally Fields, "They hate you, they really hate you".

The discriminate you in employment. They invite millions of illegals to replace you. They censor and punish any speech they dislike. If you protest their actions , they arrest and you give outrageously long sentences or even murder you (cf Ashli Babbitt). They set up a two-tier justice system. They try to rig the voting. And they either try to jail your leaders, or encourage someone to assassinate them.

This was no "Joe Biden Gaffe". He always been intolerant and hateful of anyone who opposes him. He has no respect for Trump supporters or average Repubicans. He's been a divider not a uniter. Its amazing how a persona can render you imperious to people facing the truth about you. "Good ol' Joe" would send you off to the Gulag and laugh about it.

That said, I like trump's reaction. There's no reason for the LEADER to be angry. Taking the high road will get you more votes, which is all that matters. For Trump.

Aggie said...

Well, one candidate's trash is another candidate's treasure.

What is this, about the sixth time that Joe Biden has stumbled onto the scene at a key moment and stolen all the oxygen from Kamala's Big Moment? If it's not press conferences, it's offensive mutterings - but always, near a microphone. I'm coming around to the idea that Joe has been lashing out at Obama and his stooge candidate.

Hell hath no fury as a former-stooge scorned, eh? "No one f*cks with a Biden" Payback time.

Dixcus said...

Democrats and the postal union are already rigging the 2024 election. They've destroyed thousands of mail-in ballots from key Republican zip codes.

https://www.westernjournal.com/missing-mail-ballots-spark-voter-anger-crucial-pennsylvania-county/

Inga said...

“The people she quotes to show that they didn't like Trump very much before they knew him are now his supporters. Earned respect.”

But once they got to know him they said this…

“Once Top Advisers to Trump, They Now Call Him ‘Liar,’ ‘Fascist’ and ‘Unfit’
Many of those who served in former President Donald J. Trump’s administration — especially his generals, ambassadors and other national security officials — have since turned on Mr. Trump.“

NYT

Ice Nine said...

And of course everyone believes the preposterous notion that Althouse was undecided in the voting line...

Democratic Paychecks for Perks/ Dems for Demolition of Democracy/ fake-cares 4-U said...

No I-nag - the most vulgar campaign is one where corrupt media outlets AND YOU - A LOYALIST SOVIET PROGRESSIVE - Call Trump and his supporters- Nazis.

Achilles said...

We all know you can't be honest about anything Inga. You cannot honestly address what Trump meant or actually said. You cannot be honest about what Joe Biden said. You cannot be honest about what the comedian said.

It is part of what makes you a terrible person.

Curious George said...

“America is “like a garbage can for most of the world; they dump the people they don’t want.”

How quickly we forget."

How is this pertinent? What a fucking dope.

Achilles said...

A financial reset is inevitable Howard. It is math at this point. Record high consumer debt. Unrecorded inflation. Massive demand destruction.

They are going to pull the plug on the economy and try to blame it on Trump.

Achilles said...

Inga flips and flops like a brain damaged seal.

Amadeus 48 said...

Thinking about Godwin's Law (as an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1), I realize that there is an accelerant when Democrats are involved. They go to Nazi comparisons of their opponents approximately 10 times faster than other political actors. It is sad, because it is so stupid. No one is as bad as the Nazis and Hitler.

Gen. Milley and Gen. Kelly should be embarrassed because they revealed their stupidity so openly.

rehajm said...

I lost it, but a friend of mine sent me a picture of that helmet enshrined in some guy's house, sitting on a pediment under a box of plexiglass...

Curious George said...

He didn't say anything about the PR people.

Earnest Prole said...

I’m sure we can all agree whatever the other side said is an outrage.

n.n said...

Bitter clingers. Sir down and shut up. You're carbon, a "burden", and your mother who identifies as your two dads dresses you funny. Take a knee, service Willie-ngly, her progress. #NoJudgment #NoLabels #HateLovesAbortion

Gravel said...

Not always. Your commentary is treasure to nobody.

Mr. Forward said...

I too am an undecided voter. Do I wear the Glad Forceflex 30 gallon with the drawstring or the Hefty 42 gallon contractor bag with flap tie?

AMDG said...

Mr. Forward, the choice is yours: Stage 4 Colon Cancer or Stage 4 Pancreatic Cancer.

Achilles said...

The difference Howard is that we can be honest about why we are calling Regime toadies terrible people. They are fascists and their policies are openly aimed at replacing recalcitrant serfs with foreign invaders who work for cheap.

The Regime Toadies have to lie about why they call us terrible people. They are projecting all of their actual actions on us.

In the end you are right though the words do not matter. It is going to come down to who wins in the arena of violence and that will settle who is right or wrong.

Maynard said...

The Kamala-lala-ding-dong campaign and its surrogates have been consistently appealing only to Democrat Party voters. They already have the votes from idiots like Inga, but they are scared that their turnout will be low.

Democratic Paychecks for Perks/ Dems for Demolition of Democracy/ fake-cares 4-U said...

I-nag dutifully reports hearsay - from secret unknown sources.

M Jordan said...

“The Weave,” eh? Perfect. Trump has learned to talk himself into rabbit trails and talk himself out of them because in doing so he’s likely to pick up a few new scents and sound bites along the way.

Democratic Paychecks for Perks/ Dems for Demolition of Democracy/ fake-cares 4-U said...

I-nag votes corruption - every time. Good Soviet loyalist.

Achilles said...

Actually Inga's stupidity and absurd obvious hypocrisy is very valuable to the Trump campaign.

She is the object lesson. It is hard to believe that democrats actually support 9 month abortions. It is hard to believe they support open borders. It is hard to believe democrats want world war 3.

But Inga is here to confirm all of this for people.

M Jordan said...

Reading Trump’s response makes me realize on a new level why I like the guy.

Democratic Paychecks for Perks/ Dems for Demolition of Democracy/ fake-cares 4-U said...

Not subhuman - just cult-like and consumers of lies. and they like it.

Achilles said...

If you have 90 IQ all the comments look the same.

Wa St Blogger said...

And of course everyone believes the preposterous notion that Althouse was undecided in the voting line...

I believe it. Not preposterous at all. This election comes pretty close to generating a crisis of conscience for the professor. There are no good choices.

Plus, I don't think she would lie about that. Not her style. In fact, she hates duplicity. If she had decided, she would have said so but left the decision to be communicated later (if at all) because she (I am guessing) would not want to influence her readership in any way (though, like a Shrodinger cat scenario even her undecidededness is influential.)

Drago said...

"I too am an undecided voter".--Mr Forward

So then, not even a very good Mr Backward analyst either.

cfs said...

Last night, Biden solved the last minute Halloween costume problem for so many men. A garbage bag and a MAGA hat and they are good to go!

One Fine Day said...

Note how slickly the NYT shades the truth: "..President Biden seemed to refer to those who support Mr. Trump as “garbage”...:

Nothing "seemed" about it. That's why the full quote is not present in the story.

Howard said...

Debt??? Achilles, didn't you pay attention to president Trump on Joe Rogan podcast saying that the debt is pretty meaningless because the assets of the United States of America is incalcuably higher relative to the debt.

Original Mike said...
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Drago said...

I believe Howard is actially attempting to make some kind of addled point but I cannot invest any time to discern what his lefty little brain was trying to say.

Original Mike said...

"Anyone interested in the problems of coreference and misperceived coreference?"

Me! I frequently can't follow my wife because of her pronoun usage. I didn't know there was a name for it.

Howard said...

Jane, you ignorant slut...

Temujin said...

So, just to recap.
Kamala Harris has spent the last two weeks literally screaming that Trump is a Nazi, a White Supremacist, and all of his followers are Nazi Racists, that MSG was apparently full of Jewish Nazis. Today her campaign is sending out notice that her closing week will be all about Unity.

Joe Biden literally took millions of dollars from multiple foreign nationals while Vice President, hid the take among 28 shell companies fictionally headed by various members of his family, and had himself referred to as the "Big Guy" as he socked away the funds which were, of course, a down payment on affecting US policy- both domestic and international.

And Joe refers to me as garbage?

Both Kamala and Joe are awful human beings. Slugs. Mediocre humans finding themselves in lofty powerful positions of influence and wealth. They are the walking definition of the death of a republic.

The choice this election is abundantly clear. Don't talk to me about Trump's character. Character is what shows when the cameras are not on, the speech is not on the teleprompter and it's just you doing either what's right, or what's wrong.

Trump will surround himself with a wide variety of people, differing opinions, and a chance to disinfect our government.
Harris (and Biden) are the infection that needs to be cut out.

Michael Fitzgerald said...

Am I still with you as you imply that Trump is "parodying Jesus" and construct excuses for the despicable attitude of the USA president? No, you lost me, libtard.
After all Trump has endured from his Democrat Party enemies, he has only shown them pity and forgiveness. Yet you have the fucking nerve to call him insincere and manipulative! Fucking AWFL!

Ampersand said...

Ok. The whole garbage thing is a dumb distraction. I know from walking around my neighborhood that I AM being called weird. And I care s lot less about that than I care about the debt, the immigration, the corruption, and the incompetence of Biden/Harris.

Original Mike said...

"How quickly we forget."

Does Inga misunderstand Trump's comment or is she feigning it? I'm going with she really doesn't understand.

Saint Croix said...

Politico runs a story about Biden calling Trump voters "garbage."

And at the end of the story there's this little nugget...

CORRECTION: This story was updated to correct President Joe Biden's quote.

You are garbage, Politico!

cfs said...

Since reporters are so close to the Harris campaign, I wish one would ask some of the "supporters" existing the buses at her rallies how much they are paid to attend. At her DC rally yesterday, there was a long line of buses (Myers Coach Lines, Export, PA) with thousands of attendees. And hundreds of them have attended multiple rallies.

Also, there is an interesting article today at the Federalist regarding the Harris campaign's paid Reddit posters spamming threads with pro-Harris comments and article links. And also, creating fake community notes at X. I suspect we have paid Harris posters at every news and blog site. They are usually easy to spot because they are obviously idiots who believe every media lie put forth by MSNBC no matter how much evidence is provided to them proving the lies.

Democratic Paychecks for Perks/ Dems for Demolition of Democracy/ fake-cares 4-U said...

I-Nag - just day or 2 ago - you posted the same footage that D-MSNBC ran- comparing Trump's rally to a Nazi Rally.
have you ever been told to go fuck yourself?

Kirk Parker said...

Begley, don't you suppose she will save her big reveal, if it is coming at all, until after the rioting in Madison has settled down?

Rory said...

The Dems go to the Nazis quick because they have to defuse the "Socialist" part of the term. It's really important to leftists not to own both the communists and the nazis.

Democratic Paychecks for Perks/ Dems for Demolition of Democracy/ fake-cares 4-U said...

Politico is a joke. A Democrat Hack Joke.

Iman said...

And confirm it, she does. Oh, boy… does she ever!!!

Iman said...

Consider the source. He runs on shit talk.

Drago said...
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Hassayamper said...

Joe Biden was the dumbest man on Capitol Hill back when I was just a teenager. Not my opinion - it was the opinion of the Congressional staffers who ranked their bosses anonymously for the Roll Call newspaper, back when we still had media organs that pulled no punches with either party.

I continue to be amazed that such a worthless stumblebum ever made it into the Oval Office. If this is the straw that breaks the Kamala's back, it will be a fitting capstone to his execrable career.

Drago said...

A message from Buzz Aldrin, now officially considered a garbage person by the New Soviet Democraticals, like P-Inga:

"A half-Century ago, it was an honor to serve my country in the effort to put a human being on the Moon. I am proud of what we accomplished then and I have dedicated my life to the pursuit of an enduring human presence in space – it is a calling that runs through every fiber of my being.

Over time, I have seen our government’s approach to space wax and wane. But under the first Trump Administration, I was impressed to see how human space exploration was elevated as a policy of high importance again. Under President Trump’s first term, America saw a revitalized interest in Space, and his Administration reignited national efforts to get back to the Moon, and push on to Mars. The Trump Administration also reinstituted the National Space Council, and our Nation’s defense was enhanced with the creation of the U.S. Space Force – increasingly important as space becomes a contested domain. At the same time, I have been enthused and excited by the great advancements in the private sector space economy, led by visionaries like @elonmusk. These are concrete accomplishments that align with my concerns and America’s policy priorities.

America is facing serious and difficult challenges both at home and abroad. The Presidency requires clarity in judgement, decisiveness, and calm under pressure that few have a natural ability to manage, or the life experience to successfully undertake. It is a job where decisions are made that routinely involve American lives – some urgently but not without thought. The job requires sober analysis of frightening scenarios, and the instinct to lead with resolve. From the skies over Korea in air-to-air combat to navigating, landing, and walking on the Moon, I appreciate this kind of pressure. I know what it is like to have to make these kinds of decisions, with firmness and follow-through.

In this election, we have a choice and we all have one vote. For some, the choice may not be easy – but in times of uncertainty real leaders are most needed – to guide and inspire a people, to push through the noise, recognize what really matters, and accomplish missions critical to all citizens. Most Americans rightly consider it an honor to cast their vote for a leader they believe will best serve the nation. For me, for the future of our country, to meet enormous challenges, and for the proven policy accomplishments above, I believe we are best served by voting for @realDonaldTrump. I wholeheartedly endorse him for President of the United States. Godspeed President Trump, and God Bless the United States of America."

WA-mom said...

Quick. Somebody do an AI art piece of Trump in his Halloween costume -- Oscar the Grouch!

Hassayamper said...

People are posting memes of Oscar the Grouch with Trump's face, singing the "I Love Trash" song we all remember.

robother said...

"Let's be clear, it is what almost every Democrat elected official actually believes," as Halperin observed. The shoe fits, in this case, like a glove.

Hassayamper said...

Some are. Most are simpletons who deserve pity.

Drago said...

I am trying to recall just which of the Althouse moron lefty brigade laughed and laughed and laughed when Trump forced thru the long stymied but necessary creation of US Space Force...

...hmmmm....P-Inga was definitely one of them, so was Howard the non-combat Marine, basically all of them.

And here we are.

Hassayamper said...

I can't wait for him to pardon the Bidens for taking bribes from Turkey and China and Ukraine, with much gracious language about how he's doing it in the spirit of unity, bipartisanship, and national healing.

Michael Fitzgerald said...

Thank You! Althouse thinks he's faking it, for votes, that's why it's not there.

tcrosse said...

The peasants are revolting.

Hassayamper said...

You know what a foreign accent is, Howard? A badge of courage.

Democrats used to understand this. But nowadays they mock the accent of Melania Trump, who speaks five languages. Tells me a whole lot more about them than her.

Hassayamper said...

Trump was attacking the foreign countries who fill our beautiful country with the dregs of their prisons, eagerly facilitated by the power-crazed Democrats.

Biden was attacking half of the fellow citizens who pay his salary.

DINKY DAU 45 said...

DONALD TRUMP’S CAMPAIGN WAS LEFT scrambling Sunday night after roast-comic Tony Hinchcliffe made insulting jokes about Hispanic and black people on stage at the ex-president’s Madison Square Garden rally.
The lines sparked immediate backlash and even condemnation from fellow Republicans. But four top campaign sources said it could have been even worse.
“He had a joke calling [Vice President Kamala] Harris a ‘cunt,’” a campaign insider involved in the discussions about the event told The Bulwark. “Let’s say it was a red flag.”
Hinchcliffe’s remarks—and the ensuing backlash—has sparked questions about how such an offensive speech was allowed at such a high-profile rally; whether it was deliberate; and why a presidential campaign would elevate a roast-master comic edgelord in the closing days of a tight race for the White House.
Campaign staffers had asked all speakers to submit drafts of their speeches ahead of time—before they were loaded into the teleprompter—according to the aforementioned sources. Once the objectionable “cunt” joke was spotted, the sources said, a staffer asked Hinchcliffe to strike it. He complied.
Those sources insisted that they did not spot the other objectionable lines in Hinchcliffe’s speech prior to him delivering it because they were ad-libbed. Hinchcliffe couldn’t be reached for comment.
The shock comic took the stage early during the MSG rally. In the course of delivering his eleven-minute-and-forty-second set, he called Puerto Rico an island of trash and joked about a black person carving watermelons for Halloween.
About three hours after the performance, as condemnation was pouring in from left, right, and center, the Trump campaign was forced to take the rare step of distancing itself from one of their speakers—though it only separated itself from the “trash” line and not the watermelon one.The guy auditioned his GARBAGE line a few days at a night club before rolling it at MSG. TRUMP campaign is either so incompetent to not have checked this out or thet LIE just as the KING does. I told you trump started the GARBAGE inuendo little bit before with his AMERICA stick and thought he could sneak this one in and got caught with his ass sticking out. And then says'' ah thats nothing just like "I'll just throw em some paper towels..hope you aint got kids...

Hassayamper said...

The guy who does cell phone analysis reported there were 30,000 mobile phones at her speech. 10,000 of them were bussed in from Atlanta and had been to at least 3 previous Kamala events. Total Astroturf.

Bruce Hayden said...

Yes. I did patent work for the USPS before I retired. At the time, they were adding tracking information front and back. If I remember correctly, it was a bar code on the bottom on the front and in invisible ink across the middle of the back. The front and back were photographed, and all of this is put in a database, where it remains for a couple weeks or so. Then, at the big mail processing centers, the envelopes are scanned, sorted, routed, and that information saved. Not really that different from what FedEx and UPS do, except much faster, and in greater bulk.

Some of the bar coded information indicate the originating office, processing center, destination, and a record tracking number (that includes originating numbers). The sorting machines operate almost blindingly fast, and unfortunate things happen as a result. When they do, the USPS has the information, somewhere on the envelope to (re)identify it and get it where it’s supposed to go, no matter how mangled it is.

Bonkti said...

"The only garbage I see floating out there...." identifies vision as Biden's mode of perceiving the garbage. One sees groups of people, hears comments.

Hassayamper said...

If I hadn't voted already I'd do this. That would be a nice stunt.

Achilles said...

You are just being a clown Howard. You know exactly what I am talking about.

As soon as Trump is president they will start accurately reporting on the economy instead of the lies and BS coming out of the regime now. Then they will try to blame it on Trump just like they tried to give Obama credit for Trump's economy.

You can't openly or honestly discuss the reasons behind what is happening with the economy because you are too dishonest to actually address the arguments.

ron winkleheimer said...

@Inga

Inga, I'm going to vote for Trump, you don't have to sell me on him.

Bruce Hayden said...

I actually know Mike (Godwin). Met him about 35 years ago, and we keep in sporadic contact. Less so since I retired. We were both active in online (mostly listserve) discussions in the late 1980s and early 1990s, esp in cyber law circles. That’s where his Godwin’s Law came from (the listserve groups, not the cyberia-l, etc groups). And I would have drinks with him at a Cyberlaw conference in Austin every year. He went on to be general counsel for the EFF, then WikiFoundation. Good guy, though, as a UT Law grad, he was reliably liberal.

Yancey Ward said...

It is almost as if Joe Biden is trying to undermine Harris.

Bruce Hayden said...

Serious problem with my partner and our copets. The cat is male, annd I call him “Buddy”, and the dog is female, and I call her “Sissy”. Simple enough. Except, somehow, dogs are male and cats female. So, she will tell me that HE shit on the carpet, and I will ask if the litter box needs changing. I did it last week. Or maybe the week before. No! No! No! The dog. Or she will scream that She is getting ready to bite her. Worrisome, since She has much bigger teeth’s than he does. And as I type this, He has climbed up on top of me, and is kneading a place he shouldn’t. Funny, since he was neutered when very young. But also funny because He kneads her breasts. We do think that He was weaned a bit early…

TaeJohnDo said...

Trump is making a quick campaign stop here in New Mexico. They tried to book the Downtown Civic Plaza Auditorium, but the city denied it, claiming there was scheduled plumbing work. There is not. The city is also claiming Trump owes $400K for a rally he had in the past - the only time the city has tried to collect money for this type of event. Now the NM Land Commissioner, a democrat, won't allow parking at a location near the event, the first time this won't be allowed. This morning a caller to a local radio talk show called in response to the above: "This is it - I am finally going to get off my undecided butt and vote for Trump. I'm on my way to early voting now." It does seem many people are getting tired of democrat's version of democracy in action.

Yancey Ward said...

Left Bank doesn't know what a gaffe is- what a shock, right?

Skeptical Voter said...

Kamala had a lot of crust last night when she called George III a "petty tyrant". But then she goes into her final windup and asserts that Trump is a "petty tyrant". I thought the airhead was above that sort of petty name calling. You can do that in the schoolyard during recess from your fifth grade class. Not a good idea when you are running for President of the United States. I'll cut the Kackler a bit of slack. Occasionally the Bad Orange Man slips and does something similar. But I'm a proud enough guy to admit that Hillary Clinton once called me Deplorable-and now Slow Joe calls me garbage. I don't know if that was an upgrade.

tcrosse said...

Sticks and stones. I have been called worse things by better people.

HoodlumDoodlum said...

I enjoy and appreciate the discussion of problems of coreference and misperceived coreference, Professor. Thanks.

Howard said...

Achilles only knows fear and anger. I'm more confident in Trump than he is.

Howard said...

Snowflake hissyamper triggered by anti woke humor. Chupa me la verga pinche cabron

Hassayamper said...
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Hassayamper said...

Me cago en la maldita boca de tu putisima madre, pinche jotote.

Original Mike said...

Nearly all looters nabbed in Pinellas County, FL, after recent hurricanes were in US illegally

This is what he's talking about, Inga.

Would You Like Fascism With That Hat said...

Whether it’s Trump supporters calling Hispanics garbage, or Joe Biden calling Trump supporters comments garbage if they use racist terms to disparage Hispanics, there’s been a lot of trash talk on both sides.

Would You Like Fascism With That Hat said...

Why can't we have a party that is extremely racist and is also pro-choice? You’ve never felt more politically homeless.

Sheridan said...

I'm just sorry that George Carlin isn't around to have been the comedian at the MSG get-together. He would have pissed-off everyone! And it would have been intentional! Many years ago in SoCal I interacted with professional politicians and they always struck me as advisors to Tony Soprano's squad. Wannabe consiglieres. The stupidest of them didn't see that they'd been bought and sold.

PM said...

I am deeply awaiting the weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Big Mike said...

From CBS:

Republicans seized on comments made by President Biden appearing to refer to Trump supporters as "garbage."

Of course it appeared that way because it was that way.

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