August 16, 2024

How much will you give me if I just get a cat?

"Kamala Harris unveils populist policy agenda, with $6,000 credit for newborns" (WaPo).

119 comments:

Amadeus 48 said...

Everyone likes a handout.

Gusty Winds said...

Here come the price controls!!! Yea!!!!!

tim in vermont said...

Sounds great. I approve. Just tell me where the money will come from.

RideSpaceMountain said...

You'll get newborns alright. You'll just get more newborns than what welfare already provides us with.

People aren't having children because there's no cash incentive. No amount of money is going to convince the people that ought to be having children to have them in this environment. It isn't about the money. Elon Musk is right.

Kate said...

Ew. Throwing money at a new mother is low on the list of helpful solutions, something Harris would know if she'd ever given birth. But the surrogate business would love it.

wendybar said...

How much credit is she going to give for abortions, which is what is driving the Progressive women to vote??

DanTheMan said...

It's a good thing that there is an infinite amount of money, otherwise this could be bad...

Gusty Winds said...

Kamala is going to propose the same shit Maduro did in Venezuela. White women with Master's degrees will cheer. They'll pretend the inflation is all evil price gauging. Not gov't spending a printing money. Just stupid.

The biggest price gauging scam going on in America today is the cost of college. These are they same idiots that will cheer Kamala's price cap proposals today.

We deserve to sink.

planetgeo said...

I forget. What do you call people who like to redistribute other peoples' money?

My suggestion to the opposition would be to guarantee "tax gouging controls" and a permanent cap on total taxes.

Gusty Winds said...

If you pay $6000.00 for a live birth, and abortions go down are the feminists still pissed off?

AlbertAnonymous said...

Good Lord, she really is nothing but an empty pantsuit. The only ideas sh has are bad ideas.

Political Junkie said...

I worry with one or both candidates offering handouts, tax cuts, etc. and we, WE, have a 36 trillion dollar debt and still run nasty yearly federal deficits.
I wonder if/when the federal debt/deficit/interest on debt "shit hits the fan" in the next 4 years, which party would handle the situation better? I truly do not know. We can't tax cut our way out of it, and we must stop increasing fed spending and cut some stuff where we can. I worry. No one else seems to give a damn.

Gusty Winds said...

If you collect the $6K for the live birth, what is the required period of time you have to take care of the child?

Gusty Winds said...

Tax cuts are not a "handout"

Iman said...

Pouring money into the economy and price controls may poll well with some folks, but it’s a recipe for continuing inflation and accelerated decline.

Political Junkie said...

Oh - I think people are not having kids for various reasons. They are lack of financial security, less job security, increased speed of life, focus on maximizing one's immediate pleasures vs long run pleasures, avoiding LT liabilities.

mezzrow said...

Oh, I can find you a cat. I know people.

Political Junkie said...

gusty winds - I did not say they were. Tax cuts are different from handouts, which are incurring gov expenses to buy votes. Example - Forgiving college loan debt.

Gusty Winds said...

WaPoo: "Kamala Harris unveils populist policy agenda".

Wow. Populism is now in vogue. Or they just redefined populist to mean communist.

Fuck it. Let it all go to hell. White women. You win. I'm crying "UNCLE"!

Gusty Winds said...

How much will you give me if I just get a cat?

It's $2000 to become a childless cat woman.

Birches said...

Wow, this makes me angry. Irrationally angry. At least JD Vance's "Make birth free" is using an existing structure and piggy backing off of that. Women on Medicaid already have a free birth; it helps the working class to have birth underwritten by insurance. But yeah, we're just going to hand out 6k. And it will never happen. She looks desperate.

Gusty Winds said...

From the WaPoo article: Vice President Kamala Harris on Friday unveiled an aggressively populist economic agenda...Democrats have become increasingly convinced that embracing populist economics is key to beating Trump

You have to become Trump, to beat Trump. Especially after you failed to kill him.

n.n said...

Live birth and day after abortion? It would follow their religious principles.

AMDG said...

Just a note: JD Vance would like to the Child Tax Credit increased to $5000 per a child.

planetgeo said...

The problem with taking money from them for getting a cat is that then they'll think that entitles them to grab you by your kitty.

Christopher B said...

AMDG said...
Just a note: JD Vance would like to the Child Tax Credit increased to $5000 per a child.


Just a note: You can only claim a tax credit if you have taxable income. The proposals are not equivalent.

Rob C said...

Not to be crude but does this mean that some people could now get $6,000 for their anchor?

MadTownGuy said...

How much day care will $6K cover?

Amadeus 48 said...

Don't forget the things she steals from Trump (no tax on tips and her Veep selection missing call from candidate), MLK ("fweedom"), etc.
She is totally empty, but to her that is a feature, not a bug. She is the Queen of Wish-casting. The sky is the limit.

n.n said...

Is this a tax refund or welfare, where the latter, along with debt emission, affirmative discrimination, immigration reform, Green deals, etc, are first-order forcings of progressive Parenthood and other viability constraints.

Levi Starks said...

So, a government subsidy that will cover less than 1/10 of 1% of the total operating expense. Sounds about right.

Lawnerd said...

There is a good reason morons should not become president. Price controls! Jesus Christ is Kamala dumb.

Ann Althouse said...

"Just a note: You can only claim a tax credit if you have taxable income."

Are you sure?

https://turbotax.intuit.com/tax-tips/irs-tax-return/can-i-file-an-income-tax-return-if-i-dont-have-any-income/L5T6d4PZP#GoTo-Credits-may-earn-you-a-tax-refund

Eva Marie said...

Happy people have babies.

Eat More Ibogaine said...

The same $6,000 regardless of the baby's skin color? Surely that's racist.

Wa St Blogger said...

Would the 6k be enough for the underpaid USSS staff to afford a breast pump or maybe a little time off so they won't have to breast feed while on Duty?

Democratic Paychecks for Perks/ Dems for Demolition of Democracy/ fake-cares 4-U said...

If you cannot win votes- buy votes.
Our national debt - be damned.

Jamie said...

What's the quote about the Devil, if he succeeded in doing away with God, having to become him? Only in reverse: we all know Trump is the Devil. (And Obama was - is? - the Lightbringer, hence the Joy! campaign.)

Drago said...

Wannbe DeSantis Online Influencer AMDG knows that perfectly well. But he writes what he does in support of the dem/GOPe/globalist/Lawfare team in the hope that they are able to imprison Trump, remove him from the ballot and DeSantis would be selected by the McConnells et al to slot right in and failing that, the dems execute anotherheat to win with full GOPe support....just like last time.

Hope springs eternal in Can't Win A Single Delegate Land.

RMc said...

Vice President Kamala Harris on Friday unveiled an aggressively populist economic agenda

Did she write even one word of this "agenda"? (Hell, has she even read it...?!)

Democratic Paychecks for Perks/ Dems for Demolition of Democracy/ fake-cares 4-U said...

Kamala has him beat - with the free money offer. Vote Kamala.. AMDG.

Rocco said...

Gusty Winds said...
It’s $2000 to become a childless cat woman.

How about a childlike catless lady? I can think of some who might qualify.

typingtalker said...

The linked article has this at the bottom ... "24/7 coverage from 1,000+ journalists."

That's a lot of journalists.

Birches said...

Probably part of the plan

n.n said...

That's diversity, baby. However, Democratic policy is motivated by Diversity. American Civil Liberties Unburdened

John henry said...

President trump should accuse kamala of cchanneling her inner Nixon"

Might need to explain nixon disastrous attempt at price controls in 1971

John Henry

wendybar said...

She can hand us some money to pronounce her name correct, since we are white and don't know Ebonics

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n.n said...

Planned Parenthood would still present a lesser "burden" on social and climate progress.

John henry said...

Scott Adams was saying yesterday that by repeating the trump tax rate cuts, the amount he pays in taxes will go down.

This is because his property and state taxes will be deductible again.

Funny how dems all want to tax wealth but never credit president trump for actually doing it (kinda, sorta)

John Henry

Inga said...

So all the talk about being family friendly and encouraging women to have children is just lip service. When it comes to putting your money where your mouth is, then it makes some people “irrationally angry”? I guess you’d rather see tax cuts for the super rich. How much did Trump’s tax cuts for the rich cost? During Trump’s time in office, the national debt rose $ 7.8 trillion between his tax cuts for the rich and unlimited spending.

Butkus51 said...

Inga the abortion Queen chimes in.

Josephbleau said...

This is inefficient, well paid women won’t make the decision based on 6k, this is effective only in getting low income women to get quick cash. There should be an income limit, above which you get nothing, otherwise 70 percent of the money will not contribute to increased population.

And gay and trans people will be mad that they don’t get it too.

n.n said...

Whether price controls, debt emission, unreliable energy, regulatory selection, or immigration reform, the economic effect is the same: disruption, dysfunction.

Democratic Paychecks for Perks/ Dems for Demolition of Democracy/ fake-cares 4-U said...

Trump cut taxes for everyone - and the economy thrived, and the residuals created an abundance for the treasury. Until CoViD change-the-vote arrived.

But loyal leftists love their "tax cuts for the rich" Bullshit.

n.n said...

Trans couplets outsource baby production to rent-a-wombs with male surrogates.

Inga said...

$6,000, extended maternity leave and a higher child tax credit will be beneficial to middle income families, as well as lower income. I agree that there should be in income limit in receiving the CTC and the $6,000 credit.

Democratic Paychecks for Perks/ Dems for Demolition of Democracy/ fake-cares 4-U said...

Our nation is filled to the brim with economic morons. Big Smile Kamala is their queen.

n.n said...

Trump was on the right path to fostering a society and economy that was affordable and accessible to all people, but he didn't follow through and people wonder why not. Some reasons are obvious, and people are willing to offer him the benefit of the doubt.

Jersey Fled said...

Price controls and now free money. How innovative.

Democratic Paychecks for Perks/ Dems for Demolition of Democracy/ fake-cares 4-U said...

Remember for the corrupt democrat left- it's not about increasing money to the treasury - it's about causing punitive pain, killing off the middle calls (while they lie and pretend to care) forking over dollars so stupid people vote for them, and lining their own pockets.

Inga said...

“As this debate unfolds, policymakers and the public should understand that the 2017 Trump tax law:

Was skewed to the rich. Households with incomes in the top 1 percent will receive an average tax cut of more than $60,000 in 2025, compared to an average tax cut of less than $500 for households in the bottom 60 percent, according to the Tax Policy Center (TPC).[1] As a share of after-tax income, tax cuts at the top — for both households in the top 1 percent and the top 5 percent — are more than triple the total value of the tax cuts received for people with incomes in the bottom 60 percent.[2]
Was expensive and eroded the U.S. revenue base. The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimated in 2018 that the 2017 law would cost $1.9 trillion over ten years,[3] and recent estimates show that making the law’s temporary individual income and estate tax cuts permanent would cost another roughly $400 billion a year beginning in 2027.[4] Together with the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts enacted under President Bush (most of which were made permanent in 2012), the law has severely eroded our country’s revenue base. Revenue as a share of GDP has fallen from about 19.5 percent in the years immediately preceding the Bush tax cuts to just 16.3 percent in the years immediately following the Trump tax cuts, with revenues expected to rise to an annual average of 16.9 percent of GDP in 2018-2026 (excluding pandemic years), according to CBO. This is simply not enough revenue given the nation’s investment needs and our commitments to Social Security and health coverage.
Failed to deliver promised economic benefits. Trump Administration officials claimed their centerpiece corporate tax rate cut would “very conservatively” lead to a $4,000 boost in household income.[5] New research shows that workers who earned less than about $114,000 on average in 2016 saw “no change in earnings” from the corporate tax rate cut, while top executive salaries increased sharply.[6] Similarly, rigorous research concluded that the tax law’s 20 percent pass-through deduction, which was skewed in favor of wealthy business owners, has largely failed to trickle down to workers in those companies who aren’t owners.[7] Like the Bush tax cuts before it,[8] the 2017 Trump tax cut was a trickle-down failure.“

https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-tax/the-2017-trump-tax-law-was-skewed-to-the-rich-expensive-and-failed-to-deliver

tcrosse said...

During Nixon's price controls a number of products disappeared from supermarket shelves. Coffee was one. This could get ugly.

JAORE said...

If you "abort" the baby post-birth do you get the cash without the "burden" of raising a child?

And don't give me the crap that this never happens.

Birches said...

We have a lot of kids. And a huge number of exemptions for our withholding so a small amount comes out each paycheck. But even with that, we don't get all of the child tax credit money. Not all of it is refundable. We've never gotten back more than we pay in Medicare and Social Security taxes (and haha to anyone who believes we will ever see any of that money when our turn comes).

Birches said...

Oh brother Inga. I gave my reasons why it's a worse plan than Vance's. And yes, I want married parents reproducing, not women who want 6k. It's a bad incentive.

Michael K said...
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Joe Bar said...

All I hear from her camp is "Mo Money, Mo Money, Mo Money!" I guess the dems are just buying the election, now.

Michael K said...

Another dullard cut and paste that she doesn't understand. And from an obvious lefty source.

I Shouldn’t Have Left the White House said...

“I worry with one or both candidates offering handouts, tax cuts, etc. and we, WE, have a 36 trillion dollar debt and still run nasty yearly federal deficits.”

Trump thinks foreign countries pay import tariffs levied by the US on foreign goods purchased by American consumers. That’s pretty dumb, too.

PM said...

That go for adoptions as well? You know, for same-sexers.

Louie the Looper said...

How about a tax on cats?

Harun said...

Stealing another JD Vance / Trump idea.

john mosby said...

WanSt Blogger: USSS breastfeeding on duty? Are you referring to the Hunter detail? Or WJ Clinton?

JSM

Harun said...

Chinese exporters now routinely offer payment terms of DDG - duty paid by the exporter. I've never heard of this term, usually its FOB or CIF.

What actually happens is the Chinese exporter lies on the documents to avoid tariffs, and the US importer isn't at risk because they didn't do the lying.

OFC our government doesn't catch this. 98% success rate was quoted to me by the Chinese freight forwarder.

Inga said...
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robother said...

The real problem is that growing percentages of each post- millennial generation are more and more inclined to socialism. Every issue needs a State solution, and by that I mean a Command economy. You are commanded to buy an electric vehicle. Groceries too expensive? We will command the stores to sell at a certain price. Housing too expensive? The government will build housing, and when that falls short, the government will tell owners what they can rent and/or sell for.

Inga said...

Birches, so you think this $6,000 will only give incentive/monetary relief to low income women who you apparently don’t think should be reproducing? Talk about being an elitist. You don’t want these women to have abortions, or do you? You think a $6,000 credit wouldn’t help middle income families, or poor women? You might as well come out and say “I don’t want poor women and middle income women having babies because they aren’t worthy”

JIM said...

Unrestricted abortions and tax credits for birthing a baby. Targeting "price gouging" food corporations and printing more fiat money. Joe's not fit to run for POTUS, but he's fit to be POTUS.
Wasn't Trump criticized harshly for being a Populist?
Internal polling about Kacklin' Kammies chances must not be good if you emulate an Oprah Winfrey gift giveaway extravaganza. It's only mid- August.

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Rabel said...

"Are you sure?"

Yes.

walter said...

Call her Kabala for maximum outrage.

Inga said...

Another dumb comment from the senile asshole.

JaimeRoberto said...

Vance's desire to increase the native born birth rate is bad but Harris's is good. I guess that makes sense if you are a Dem.

tim in vermont said...

Talk about "voodoo economics"!

n.n said...

This has the catastrophic consequences of the Great Society, the prolonged pain of the New Deal, and the equitable outcome of the Green Deal written all over it.

Inga said...

And on the Good Ship Lollypop, they always have enough money. But if they don’t have an upper income, helping them out will increase their happiness quotient.

narciso said...

https://x.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1824521830616457372

Inga said...

Harris’ economic agenda speech was full of policies and detail, now that is how to do it. Too bad Trump couldn’t get past the cereal boxes and got distracted.

Democratic Paychecks for Perks/ Dems for Demolition of Democracy/ fake-cares 4-U said...

CBPP skews left.

"CBPP bills itself as nonpartisan, but a look at the center’s stance on issues indicates a left-of-center view. In 2011, the Daily Signal argued the group skewered statistics to benefit liberal talking points. While a chart from CBPP claimed the next decade’s deficits were the result of two recent tax cuts, the recession, bailouts, wars, and the economic stimulus, Daily Signal argued that CBPP’s “methodology fails statistics 101.”5"

Democratic Paychecks for Perks/ Dems for Demolition of Democracy/ fake-cares 4-U said...

As a 501(c)3, CBPP is not required to reveal its donors, but reports reveal some of those who give to the organization. That includes a document leak in 2014 that showed the Democracy Alliance, which coordinates grants for nearly 100 progressive organizations, contributes to CBPP.20

Democratic Paychecks for Perks/ Dems for Demolition of Democracy/ fake-cares 4-U said...

Demcratxts don't care who they hurt- they just want the media to prop them up to be heroes.

One Fine Day said...

Her speech was a litany of socialist nostrums that have been shown time and time and time again to not only not work, but to actively make things worse for everyone. Even liberal economists accept that price controls don't control prices and serve to reduce availability and productivity.

The last time the government paid women to have babies with no strings attached we wound up with out-of-control welfare spending, Dems destroyed black families, created massive inner-city youth gangs of men who helped black women have more babies for more cash, and led to what liberals blame on "white supremacy". What liberals blame on a non-existent boogeyman was clearly the result of Democrac social welfare policy starting with the Johnson administration.

But since you're just a cut-and-paste Dem toady, you will toe the party line and repeat what you are told to repeat. Like a good America-hating socialist.

Rusty said...

Well. We now know Ingas price. For $6001.00 she'll vote for Trump.

Yancey Ward said...

So, Inga, why aren't these the policies of the Biden-Harris Administration?

effinayright said...

Inga, do you know that roughly 42%
of all Americans who file federal tax returns pay NO FUCKING INCOME TAXES AT ALL? IOW they get their government goods and services FREE, and here you are pissing and moaning that "the rich" don't pay more. What a ditx you are!

effinayright said...

What you won't get is more "intact families". The Welfare Queens will simply lie to their boyfriends about whether they can get pregnant, then collect the $$$ when the kid pops out. SWEET!!! Them sugar walls are money-makers!!!

Iman said...

Not to be out done by Trump’s sneakers, Kamala Harris releases line of golden knee pads

Bob Boyd said...

You're having a payday
What a lovely way of saying what I'm thinking of ya
You're having a payday
What lovely way of saying how much I love ya

I can see it
Your face is glowin'
I can see in your eyes
You're happy, I know it

And you're having a baby
It's my policy now and I love what it's doin' to ya
You're having a baby
We're all socialists now and the government's workin' thru ya

The greed inside you
I see it showin'
And your bank account, baby, do you feel it growin'?
Are ya happy in knowin'?

That you're having a payday

Drago said...

The New Soviet Democraticals certainly have a solid understanding of their typical base voter: lets call her "Inga".

The New Soviet Democraticals know they can completely rig 3 dem primaries in a row, and even have the dem candidates involved go public with it...but "Inga" will believe what she is told to believe.

"Inga" will be told that Joey Dementia is the bravest most courageous and honorable dude ever for "voluntarily" step down...only to have the real story of how Joey Dementia was strong armed out under 25th Amendment threat...but "Inga" still believes the original story!

But the best Jedi mindtrick of all is the New Soviet Democraticals waving their hands in the air and making ALL the "Ingas" forget the democraticals have been in charge for 3.5 years!

Funniest exit thought: for 9 years our Inga has presented herself as a mindreading savant who knows what every single American is thinking....so add Dunning-Kruger to the New Soviet Democraticals "Inga" profile!

Drago said...


"A loaf of bread costs 50% more today than it did before the pandemic. Ground beef is up almost 50%."--Harris the Commie, today, before an astonishingly small crowd in Raleigh NC.

Rusty said...

The six thousand dollars, Inga, is a bribe to get illegals to vote Democrat.

Jim at said...

Harris’ economic agenda speech was full of policies and detail

Then why in the hell hasn't she been implementing these policies for the last three and a half years?

tcrosse said...

It's unlikely that Kamala will go after Apple for price-gouging on iPhones, or Hollywood for price-gouging to see movies, or colleges for price-gouging on fees.

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OldManRick said...

The biggest price gouging scheme today in America is taxes.

In California, your gas taxes are not paying for road maintenance but getting syphoned off for anything the democrat legislature wants to do. Probably the same in other states. The money going to "solve" the homeless situation is being skimmed by expensive, price gouging organizations with very little of the money going to solve the problem. Check out the ratios of money spent to homeless heads served - it's ridiculous. How much are we paying for ineffective border control? And add to that the support spent on illegals that get through the sieve. Audits of the pentagon or Ukraine aid can't figure out what happens to millions if not billions of dollars. As the meme goes, since the Department of Education was formed, the average test scores have gone down across the board. Is the Depart of Ed price gouging us for an inferior product? And let's not forget the money pipeline from the government to NGOs to political parties (especially the democratic party). The amounts sent on NGOs has an automatic price gouge to allow the NGO to donate to their favored party.

You can tell that the government runs on price gouging because as soon as the government go involved in student loans, the college price gouging increased significantly with all sorts of "activity" deans and no additional increases teaching capacity.

Marcus Bressler said...

The "child care tax credit" is really not a "credit" against taxes paid, but one portion of it is just a handout.

Marcus Bressler said...

Hating the rich is Envy, which is a sin. Go to Hell, Inga. You write as a commie, wanting the government to seize more of someone's money just because they have more. I'm poor, but I believe tax cuts should be percentage-based and the SAME for all. The "rich" who pay taxes support most of us, especially for those who don't file or don't taxes at all. My deceased daughter was a waitress with two young children. Her income was low, and I am positive she did not declare all her tips as income. Yet every year she got a few thousand dollars "back", one year enough to buy her a used car that she desperately needed. Do you think my daughter actually had several thousand dollars withheld from her paycheck? Stop the welfare.

Political Junkie said...

Your reply proves my point.

Inga said...

Iphones aren’t groceries. Neither are movies or college fees. Last I heard her concern was food prices, medications, housing costs.

During a speech in the battleground state of North Carolina, Harris said that “building up the middle class will be a defining goal of my presidency” as she promoted her plan for a federal ban on price gouging by food producers and grocers. She also proposed $25,000 in down payment assistance for certain first-time homebuyers and tax incentives for builders of starter homes.

“Every day across our nation, families talk about their plans for the future, their ambitions, their aspirations for themselves, for their children. And they talk about how they’re going to be able to actually achieve them financially, because, look, the bills add up,” Harris said. “Food, rent, gas, back to school clothes, prescription medications. After all that, for many families, there’s not much left at the end of the month.”

AP

Michael K said...

I guess the Dullard is OK with communism. Explains a lot.

Michael K said...

More spending and communism. The Dullard loves it.

Inga said...

More stupid comments from the senile asshole.

Inga said...
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Iman said...

‘ The New Soviet Democraticals certainly have a solid understanding of their typical base voter: let’s call her "Inga". ‘

FFS… let’s not and let’s just say that we did. Don’t let her metastasize.

stlcdr said...

Ings’s quote about the Tax cuts once again highlights the lefts inability to do basic math, but instead rely on ‘experts’ to tell them what to think.

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Rusty said...

Inga. You and your friends have had three and a half years to fix those things. Keeping in mind you broke them in the first place.

Achilles said...

You all need to lay off on Inga. She does excellent work here. Someone has to defend the Harris agenda.

Besides Trump is basically writing the Harris campaign’s agenda.

Except for the communism part.

Mark said...

Rusty, you and your friends had 4 years to drain the swamp as promised.

Swamp more powerful when you left office.