"What are the chances that Crooked Joe Biden, the WORST President in the history of the U.S., whose Presidency was Unconstitutionally STOLEN from him by Kamabla, Barrack HUSSEIN Obama, Crazy Nancy Pelosi, Shifty Adam Schiff, Cryin’ Chuck Schumer, and others on the Lunatic Left, CRASHES the Democrat National Convention and tries to take back the Nomination, beginning with challenging me to another DEBATE. He feels that he made a historically tragic mistake by handing over the U.S. Presidency, a COUP, to the people in the World he most hates, and he wants it back, NOW!!!"
I like the locution "What are the chances." Start like that, and you can say anything. And it's good — not because the chances are zero — because it's got an element of truth in that guess about Biden's feelings. I would have thought no one cares anymore about Joe Biden's feelings. But Trump took the time to think about Biden's feelings and to spin out a story where the man who got knocked so far down, got back up:
At least it's less predictable than Aaron Sorkin. Actually, as a way to encourage Biden to make a disastrous mistake, it's pretty good. Add in the fact even liberals think Kamala is a terrible speaker means Biden just might take this path.
A good tactic is one you (or your people) enjoy. Trump is right. Democrats have executed a coup against a sitting President of the United States, who rightfully won the Democrat nomination by participating in primary elections against named opponents. Yet somehow, a person who has never won a single primary ever in her life is being handed the nomination by unknown persons. How is it that Kamala Harris gathered "votes" in a party election that is notable because she was the only candidate on the ballot?
Joe Biden used to be a fighter. I guess he's not one any more.
Are there any neurologists or gerontologists in the house? Does a man as far gone as Biden still have feelings? Or are feelings (like rage and anger) the ONLY things he has left? When we've seen Joe do his creepy whisper voice, one is left with the idea that the fool still has an ego, so it could be plausible.
Zero that Biden will do it, but what are the chances all those people listed are on the same page? Of the potential running mates bandied about for Harris, Walz was probably the best choice for Trump. I can’t imagine that stands.
This coup line of attack is silly. No one used illegal means to get Biden to withdraw from the campaign. Nothing wrong with the Dems to pressure Biden in public and behind the scenes to get him to face up to the obvious fact that he was not a viable candidate and would lose by a wide margin to Trump.
If there is a scandal, it's that it took so long for the Dems to react and those around Biden deceived the public about his condition. That's a line of attack that makes more sense.
Kevin Does Joe even get a speaking slot? He should be introducing Kamala, right? 8/7/24, 8:15 AM
You would certainly think so, but President Trump just illustrated a pitfall of inviting him. NOT having Biden would also be strange, but at least it would be controllable.
"...who rightfully won the Democrat nomination..."
The primaries were so unfairly weighted in Biden's favor that rightful has no rightful place in the recent history of the Democratic Party, not since the departure of men like Henry Jackson and Daniel Moynihan. Clinton and his beastly wife knocked out the props, and Obama burned to ashes what remained. The Potemkin primary season and the sudden onset of Kamala are merely the final humiliation of the Yellow Dogs, to rub their noses in it.
In a free-for-all debate between Kamala and Brandon, who would win? Who cares? It would be the most post-modern performance piece ever. Samuel Beckett would be turning green with envy. Poetry slams would be cancelled, seen as pathetically normie by comparison.
Looking at the video clip, I am struck by all those people cheering wildly for Dementia Joe, just days after he so publicly and embarrasingly exposed his condition. So cringey. And I am confident that they are now wildly cheering for Kamala "Word Salad" Harris, who refuses to hold a "big girl" press conference and has no policy positions on her website. And they will no doubt mindlessly cheer for Tim "Run Away" Walz, who abandoned his unit soon after learning it would be deployed to Iraq, who drove 96 in a 55 mph zone while drunk, and who let Minneapolis burn to show support for those protesting alleged police brutality. I get the feeling that some people are zombies and the zombie apocalypse is already happening.
Amexpat claimed, without evidence: "This coup line of attack is silly. No one used illegal means to get Biden to withdraw from the campaign."
They THREATENED him with removal from office if he did not withdraw his candidacy. Threatening a US President is a FELONY CRIME. Threatening ANY candidate for federal office to induce them to withdraw from a race is a felony crime.
If Biden is too feeble to run, is he not too feeble to serve until mid-January? What about the football? Does Kamala have the codes. If she does, that's an unconstitutional usurpation.
To expand on MartyH responding the AmExPat; it isn't simply the suggestion of invoking the 25th Amendment that makes it a coup. The 25th Amendment is a solution to a problem without having a coup. However, it is intended to be used to dispose a President no longer capable of running the country and should be invoked for that reason. Here, it was invoked apparently not because Biden is no longer capable of running the country, because they left him in place. That means the invocation of the 25th Amendment was fraudulent and blackmail. If Trump did this, a New York jury would have found him guilty of felony fraud, but it was done by Democrats, so it seems all good. Just like it is all good when Jamie Raskin wants to use the certification of the electoral college to determine the eligibility of a candidate to run (an issue already adjudicated) rather than whether the states properly ran their part of the federal election.
Zero. Because President Zero doesn't know where he is. At this point he's dependent on others to direct him. "Time to go potty, Joe," "Eat the ice cream, Joe, it's good for you." In addition to not knowing where Chicago is, he wouldn't know how what transport to use.
Amexpat: it’s rumored that Harris threatened to invoke the 25th Amendment if Biden did not withdraw. If true, they were ready to make a coup. They THREATENED him with removal from office if he did not withdraw his candidacy. Threatening a US President is a FELONY CRIME. Threatening ANY candidate for federal office to induce them to withdraw from a race is a felony crime.
That's a rumor. Any solid basis to that rumor? Both sides spread rumors when it suits there needs - facts be damned. Harris would have needed half the cabinet to do invoke the the 25th. Is there any evidence that she had all her ducks lined up before approaching Biden?
Invoking the 25th Amendment is not a coup in any sense of the word. It's a legal and sensible action to remove a president who is not able to carry out his duties. The fact that 50% of his appointed cabinet members are needed to do this safequards from unreasonable partisan action. And the fact that all those cabinet memebers can be terminated at any time by the president means that discussions of invoking the 25th would have to be done behind the president's back in order to stop him from firing those who are against him.
I understand that directly threatening to invoke the 25th to get the president to withdraw is illegal. But IF there were this sort of pressure I'm sure it was exerted in a such a subtile and indirect way as to avoid criminal liability.
My point is that I don't think it's politically smart for Trump to push this point. There was widespread agreement on both sides that Biden was not be up to serving four more years. The Dems got him to do something that most Americans agree with.Those that get riled up about a speculative improper action here are already voting for Trump. He's not getting any new voters pushing this. I think pushing a cover up about Biden's mental state is a better line of attack.
"No one used illegal means to get Biden to withdraw from the campaign."
Blackmail is often accomplished by threatening to do perfectly legal things, AmexPat, such as releasing embarrassing information. The act of releasing the embarrassing information is rarely itself illegal.
Suppose you are the head of the EPA and you threaten a business with a completely justified Superfund cleanup action in order to get them to agree to some other deal with the government or themselves personally. Extortion or not? Who is the victim and who is the criminal?
Trump's wackiness on Truth Social reminds me of LBK%s nutjob stuff when he was in the White House - the dock-wagging, the pretending that his golf cart was out of control and about to go into a lake while hammered and driving guests around. And I'm sure LBJ wasn't the only one. The difference is that Trump does his thing on social media, whereas before social media, people in high office could indulge their eccentricities more or less privately..
Believe me, I wish he'd indulge his eccentricities privately.
Claiming it was a coup might be an accurate but it makes a fantastic story. A good story will always Trump the truth the facts etc. it might be preaching to the choir however the choir hasn't actually gone to the polls yet. My guesstimation is that one of the major strategies of the Trump campaign is to keep the base at a fever pitch in order to get the required turnout. You can see that this is very likely a useful strategy given the lock step support and they twisted logic people use to defend the ridiculous story.
This is a great fantasy and Biden could finally perform a great service to the nation. A better bet is that the cabal met the price of his handlers, Jill and Hunter, to keep it from happening. Hunter's price, a full pardon for all the grifting.
AmExPat, I would nominally agree with you and more to that point, I don’t think anyone will prosecuted for the suggested abuse. However, in Trump’s unique case; he is claiming what happened is a coup, because they did the same to him and have prosecuted him and others. Using the certification of the electoral college vote to question how the election was conducted is reasonable, not a coup. Giving a speech suggesting a peaceful march is not an incitement. That some were incited does not make the speech a coup. Yet those claims were made.
Biden has been removed from power without proper authority. Dropping out of the race is one thing, but who is running the country now? Why aren’t we hearing from Biden? If so many recognize he’s unfit to run, why aren’t they invoking the 25th amendment and more to that, why isn’t anyone taking questions from the press?
I don't think it's the base that requires "fever pitch". The base has been there for years. The coup story is plausible. Kamala is doing the rest. The debate is the real test. Trump to get on a stage with her, even on her terms. Of course they will feed her the questions. Then we'll see if she can handle that.
The choice seems to have come as a surprise. The vitriol I’ve seen from the other side suggests they are a little rattled. It is certainly now quite a contrast between Trump/Vance and Harris/Walz. Despondency and retribution set against a more optimistic view of the future. Looks like the democrats are running on a platform of “Vote for us — we are normal, decent people”. It might just work.
AmExPat, I would nominally agree with you and more to that point, I don’t think anyone will prosecuted for the suggested abuse. However, in Trump’s unique case; he is claiming what happened is a coup, because they did the same to him and have prosecuted him and others.
I agree that a lot of the lawsuits against Trump were speculative overreach and I can understand his desire to pay back in kind. But is he doing this because it's a good campaign strategy or to air a personal grievance? One of Trump's strengths is that he throws his opponents off balance by pushing buttons and boundaries. Many political mistakes have been made by Dems under the influence of TDS. Trump's biggest weakness is his lapses of political disipline. His supporters may find that refreshing but he loses swing voters.
"Are there any neurologists or gerontologists in the house? Does a man as far gone as Biden still have feelings?" Good question. One would imagine tough guy Joey to be very pissed off in taking a dagger to the heart from his friends and colleagues. no denying he is now known as an incompetent loser and quitter. The Biden name is disgraced forever, Everybody is laughing at all of them, from Dr. Jill, to Crack head Hunter, to shower girl. Unfortunate and sad that a man who spent fifty years on govt payroll has to drop out like a punk.
Biden now hates Obama and Pelosi more than he hates Trump? Debatable, but intriguing. Maybe he despises and has contempt for Trump but burns with red-hot rage against the conspirators in his own party. Anyway, Trump's scenario would not be out of place on "House of Cards" or "Veep." I'm still expecting that as in (spoiler alert) "Veep," the election will come down to a 269-269 tie.
Pay attention, Trump. Your opponent is Harris, not Biden. Whining and crying that it is so unfair that they changed up on you isn't going to get you anywhere.
Try to keep up, Trump. Your opponent is Harris, not Biden. Whining and crying that it is so unfair that they changed up on you isn't going to get you anywhere.
I see a lot of posts on X that begin with, "What would you say if..." and then gives some (sometimes outlandish) hypothetical. It's engagement farming. On some platforms that gets you more money. On all of them, it gets your posts shown again and more often to people who respond to the first one. It's good social media management.
The content of the farming posts is irrelevant. Its purpose is only to get people to comment back.
If Kamala threatened to invoke the 25th Amendment----which she clearly has the Constitutional power to do---it cannot be a crime for her to do so. That power is one of (few) core functions of her office
Dixcus keeps yammering on about this "crime", but he cites absolutely NO authority for his position, while I am pointing to the language of the 25th itself.
Essentially his position would mean that Congress couldn't threaten the POTUS with impeachment---does that make any sense to anyone?
The problem that the Republicans have that the Democrats did not in 2024, is that Trump has captured the Republican party base and party organization.
There is a large cohort of voters who are attached to him personally and not the Republican Party. Trump has successfully purged a lot of political figures who were Republicans and more moderate conservatives in the party ranks and reorganized the party around sycophants and Trump loyalists.
Biden was boosted by party elites and affiliated media in 2020 in a way that helped him win the nomination. However, outside of his inner circle, he never had a particularly large electoral base that was attached to him personally. Outside of the DNC too, which Biden loyalists controlled, he had no real control over the major donor networks, and was reliant on the support of other major party leaders.
The core of Biden's electoral base are Democrats who will vote for the Democratic nominee regardless of who it is. With Trump he brings in a large unattached group of voters who will only vote for him.
The 25th was not "invoked". Doing so would have required the VP and a majority of the Cabinet to transmit to the President pro Temp of the Senate and the House Speaker their **official written declaration** that the POTUS cannot discharge the functions of his office. THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.
But purportedly, Kamala talked about doing so if Biden didn't quietly withdraw his candidacy for another term.. So, in return for withdrawing he gets to keep his title and office, but apparently w/o being in charge.
But Harris and the top Dems will dispute that last part, arguing Biden convinced them that even if he was a flaky candidate he still had enough working neurons to handle being the POTUS.
Which of you out there could credibly dispute that? Who, exactly, would have the legal standing to do so?
I agree that this is a dangerous position for our country to be in.
But for those who claim Harris committed a crime by talking about the 25th, nonsense.
invoke /ĭn-vōk′/ transitive verb 1. To call on (a higher power) for assistance, support, or inspiration. 2. To appeal to or cite in support or justification. 3. To call for earnestly; solicit.
I admit it was not used in the 3rd way, but 2 out of 3 suggests I used the word properly, particularly number 2, which is what it is, a number 2.
Biden was boosted by party elites and affiliated media in 2020
Boosted in 2020, booted in 2024..
Seriously, look at diff between Republican contender Trump, who has taken on Democrats, Deep Staters, Lawfare, and assassins, as opposed to the Top Democrat Biden who folds under pressure from a few backstabbers and quits like a coward. Probably surrenders during every argument with Dr. Jill, as well.
The Democrats are portraying themselves as the "normal" people and Trump/Vance as the weird ones but as Trump is pointing out, there is nothing normal about how Kamala Harris became the Democratic candidate for president. This is the year there were no primaries or debates to choose the candidates. It's almost like everyone knows that the president doesn't actually run the executive branch, it's the brand that matters, and other people are doing the job. We don't know or care who those people are? WTF?
I suspect that the reason we haven't heard from Joe is that he has slipped over that dementia cliff where he no longer knows what's going on around him and/or, if he does, his lack of control over his surroundings is so frightening for him that he just retreats into himself. Joe's dementia has probably gotten so bad that even Jill and Hunter are unable to let him appear in public because it will make them look even worse than they already do for hiding his condition. The elephant in the room continues to be "who's running the show?" With Joe's removal it can't be Jill any longer, so which un-elected individuals are in charge?
"Creative?" Trump always sounds like a peevish 13-year old who is immature for his age. He is a childish dolt and he appeals to childish dolts. It's a sign of how degraded we have become that this isn't immediately recognized by and commented on by everyone who hears him.
One of Trump's strengths is that he throws his opponents off balance by pushing buttons and boundaries. Many political mistakes have been made by Dems under the influence of TDS. Trump's biggest weakness is his lapses of political disipline. His supporters may find that refreshing but he loses swing voters. I think you need to pick one. Either his strength is good or it is his "biggest weakness. " I think his biggest strength is that he refuses to abide by the artificial boundaries of "political discipline," which allow our dishonest political mandarins to thrive. At the expense of common sense.
I think you need to pick one. Either his strength is good or it is his "biggest weakness. " Perhaps in deciding how to vote personally. But not in describing the dynamics of a politcal race.
I suspect the reason we haven't heard from Joe, is because it has been pointed out that the machinery he thought he controlled is actually being run by others. And these 'others' are also in control of the machinery that has been quietly documenting all of the enriching activities that have up 'till now, passed uncommented - which is not to say, unnoticed, or undocumented. Joe has been re-introduced to the Facts of Life, democrat style. Jill, too.
Althouse, what evidence shows that Trump wrote that post? Most pols don't handle any of their own social media, why on earth burden Trump with being the author of that post? At most he may have approved it, more likely his media crew have general guidelines for filling social media with his presence and proceed like workers in a termite mound to build, build build without him lifting a finger.
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At least it's less predictable than Aaron Sorkin. Actually, as a way to encourage Biden to make a disastrous mistake, it's pretty good. Add in the fact even liberals think Kamala is a terrible speaker means Biden just might take this path.
A good tactic is one you (or your people) enjoy. Trump is right. Democrats have executed a coup against a sitting President of the United States, who rightfully won the Democrat nomination by participating in primary elections against named opponents. Yet somehow, a person who has never won a single primary ever in her life is being handed the nomination by unknown persons. How is it that Kamala Harris gathered "votes" in a party election that is notable because she was the only candidate on the ballot?
Joe Biden used to be a fighter. I guess he's not one any more.
Are there any neurologists or gerontologists in the house? Does a man as far gone as Biden still have feelings? Or are feelings (like rage and anger) the ONLY things he has left? When we've seen Joe do his creepy whisper voice, one is left with the idea that the fool still has an ego, so it could be plausible.
Zero that Biden will do it, but what are the chances all those people listed are on the same page? Of the potential running mates bandied about for Harris, Walz was probably the best choice for Trump. I can’t imagine that stands.
Does Joe even get a speaking slot? He should be introducing Kamala, right?
Well, that sounds perfectly sane.
He’s telling Joe to Fight! Fight! Fight!
This coup line of attack is silly. No one used illegal means to get Biden to withdraw from the campaign. Nothing wrong with the Dems to pressure Biden in public and behind the scenes to get him to face up to the obvious fact that he was not a viable candidate and would lose by a wide margin to Trump.
If there is a scandal, it's that it took so long for the Dems to react and those around Biden deceived the public about his condition. That's a line of attack that makes more sense.
Dear Mr. Trump: We write to let you know that a seriously disturbed and impaired individual is posting on Truth Social and signing your name.
Sure this John Gill routine was legit
Amexpat: it’s rumored that Harris threatened to invoke the 25th Amendment if Biden did not withdraw. If true, they were ready to make a coup.
Kevin
Does Joe even get a speaking slot? He should be introducing Kamala, right?
8/7/24, 8:15 AM
You would certainly think so, but President Trump just illustrated a pitfall of inviting him. NOT having Biden would also be strange, but at least it would be controllable.
"is being handed the nomination by unknown persons"
Not unknown. Trump named him. Obama.
You think that's bad. Some moron by the name of Rich is posting here.
"...who rightfully won the Democrat nomination..."
The primaries were so unfairly weighted in Biden's favor that rightful has no rightful place in the recent history of the Democratic Party, not since the departure of men like Henry Jackson and Daniel Moynihan. Clinton and his beastly wife knocked out the props, and Obama burned to ashes what remained. The Potemkin primary season and the sudden onset of Kamala are merely the final humiliation of the Yellow Dogs, to rub their noses in it.
In a free-for-all debate between Kamala and Brandon, who would win? Who cares? It would be the most post-modern performance piece ever. Samuel Beckett would be turning green with envy. Poetry slams would be cancelled, seen as pathetically normie by comparison.
And back to italics?
How was Biden’s presidency unconstitutionally stolen from him?
A test
I've applied the tags to "A test" only.
Looking at the video clip, I am struck by all those people cheering wildly for Dementia Joe, just days after he so publicly and embarrasingly exposed his condition. So cringey. And I am confident that they are now wildly cheering for Kamala "Word Salad" Harris, who refuses to hold a "big girl" press conference and has no policy positions on her website. And they will no doubt mindlessly cheer for Tim "Run Away" Walz, who abandoned his unit soon after learning it would be deployed to Iraq, who drove 96 in a 55 mph zone while drunk, and who let Minneapolis burn to show support for those protesting alleged police brutality. I get the feeling that some people are zombies and the zombie apocalypse is already happening.
Amexpat claimed, without evidence: "This coup line of attack is silly. No one used illegal means to get Biden to withdraw from the campaign."
They THREATENED him with removal from office if he did not withdraw his candidacy. Threatening a US President is a FELONY CRIME. Threatening ANY candidate for federal office to induce them to withdraw from a race is a felony crime.
If Biden is too feeble to run, is he not too feeble to serve until mid-January? What about the football? Does Kamala have the codes. If she does, that's an unconstitutional usurpation.
n.n. is "pretty creative" too. Wouldn't vote for him for president either.
It amuses me to no end that the crazier Trump's rants get, the more you have to tie yourself in knots to defend them?
And Really?! Do you think Donald Trump actually cares about "crooked" Joe Biden's feelings?
No more focus on the pathetic, dried out husk Biden. He is history, and a rank one, at that.
Focus on the failure to secure our borders and how Democrats have wrecked the economy and made life too expensive for many of our countrymen.
Rusty—Send a check, he'll cash it. He really needs the money now.
To expand on MartyH responding the AmExPat; it isn't simply the suggestion of invoking the 25th Amendment that makes it a coup. The 25th Amendment is a solution to a problem without having a coup. However, it is intended to be used to dispose a President no longer capable of running the country and should be invoked for that reason. Here, it was invoked apparently not because Biden is no longer capable of running the country, because they left him in place. That means the invocation of the 25th Amendment was fraudulent and blackmail.
If Trump did this, a New York jury would have found him guilty of felony fraud, but it was done by Democrats, so it seems all good. Just like it is all good when Jamie Raskin wants to use the certification of the electoral college to determine the eligibility of a candidate to run (an issue already adjudicated) rather than whether the states properly ran their part of the federal election.
Kamablah is funny
"What are the chances?"
Zero. Because President Zero doesn't know where he is. At this point he's dependent on others to direct him. "Time to go potty, Joe," "Eat the ice cream, Joe, it's good for you." In addition to not knowing where Chicago is, he wouldn't know how what transport to use.
Biden will, of course, do no such thing but I guarantee you that Biden and his wife are still seething over this and certainly think about doing it.
Even funnier with hyphens. Kam-a-blah
Joe Biden knows how to tell the truth? Then why does he so often NOT do so?
Before rendering judgement be more certain you have a handle on what is truth and what is fiction
Reply is a new feature.
Amexpat: it’s rumored that Harris threatened to invoke the 25th Amendment if Biden did not withdraw. If true, they were ready to make a coup.
They THREATENED him with removal from office if he did not withdraw his candidacy. Threatening a US President is a FELONY CRIME. Threatening ANY candidate for federal office to induce them to withdraw from a race is a felony crime.
That's a rumor. Any solid basis to that rumor? Both sides spread rumors when it suits there needs - facts be damned. Harris would have needed half the cabinet to do invoke the the 25th. Is there any evidence that she had all her ducks lined up before approaching Biden?
Invoking the 25th Amendment is not a coup in any sense of the word. It's a legal and sensible action to remove a president who is not able to carry out his duties. The fact that 50% of his appointed cabinet members are needed to do this safequards from unreasonable partisan action. And the fact that all those cabinet memebers can be terminated at any time by the president means that discussions of invoking the 25th would have to be done behind the president's back in order to stop him from firing those who are against him.
I understand that directly threatening to invoke the 25th to get the president to withdraw is illegal. But IF there were this sort of pressure I'm sure it was exerted in a such a subtile and indirect way as to avoid criminal liability.
My point is that I don't think it's politically smart for Trump to push this point. There was widespread agreement on both sides that Biden was not be up to serving four more years. The Dems got him to do something that most Americans agree with.Those that get riled up about a speculative improper action here are already voting for Trump. He's not getting any new voters pushing this. I think pushing a cover up about Biden's mental state is a better line of attack.
Kamgobblah.
AmexPat wrote:
"No one used illegal means to get Biden to withdraw from the campaign."
Blackmail is often accomplished by threatening to do perfectly legal things, AmexPat, such as releasing embarrassing information. The act of releasing the embarrassing information is rarely itself illegal.
They want to Kamoflage her past. Clean slate. They can fuck right off with that.
And I will give you another hypothetical-
Suppose you are the head of the EPA and you threaten a business with a completely justified Superfund cleanup action in order to get them to agree to some other deal with the government or themselves personally. Extortion or not? Who is the victim and who is the criminal?
Trump's wackiness on Truth Social reminds me of LBK%s nutjob stuff when he was in the White House - the dock-wagging, the pretending that his golf cart was out of control and about to go into a lake while hammered and driving guests around. And I'm sure LBJ wasn't the only one. The difference is that Trump does his thing on social media, whereas before social media, people in high office could indulge their eccentricities more or less privately..
Believe me, I wish he'd indulge his eccentricities privately.
Claiming it was a coup might be an accurate but it makes a fantastic story. A good story will always Trump the truth the facts etc. it might be preaching to the choir however the choir hasn't actually gone to the polls yet. My guesstimation is that one of the major strategies of the Trump campaign is to keep the base at a fever pitch in order to get the required turnout. You can see that this is very likely a useful strategy given the lock step support and they twisted logic people use to defend the ridiculous story.
This is a great fantasy and Biden could finally perform a great service to the nation. A better bet is that the cabal met the price of his handlers, Jill and Hunter, to keep it from happening. Hunter's price, a full pardon for all the grifting.
AmExPat, I would nominally agree with you and more to that point, I don’t think anyone will prosecuted for the suggested abuse. However, in Trump’s unique case; he is claiming what happened is a coup, because they did the same to him and have prosecuted him and others. Using the certification of the electoral college vote to question how the election was conducted is reasonable, not a coup. Giving a speech suggesting a peaceful march is not an incitement. That some were incited does not make the speech a coup. Yet those claims were made.
Biden has been removed from power without proper authority. Dropping out of the race is one thing, but who is running the country now? Why aren’t we hearing from Biden? If so many recognize he’s unfit to run, why aren’t they invoking the 25th amendment and more to that, why isn’t anyone taking questions from the press?
I don't think it's the base that requires "fever pitch". The base has been there for years. The coup story is plausible. Kamala is doing the rest. The debate is the real test. Trump to get on a stage with her, even on her terms. Of course they will feed her the questions. Then we'll see if she can handle that.
the Chumbawumba ‘President’…
The choice seems to have come as a surprise. The vitriol I’ve seen from the other side suggests they are a little rattled. It is certainly now quite a contrast between Trump/Vance and Harris/Walz. Despondency and retribution set against a more optimistic view of the future. Looks like the democrats are running on a platform of “Vote for us — we are normal, decent people”. It might just work.
AmExPat, I would nominally agree with you and more to that point, I don’t think anyone will prosecuted for the suggested abuse. However, in Trump’s unique case; he is claiming what happened is a coup, because they did the same to him and have prosecuted him and others.
I agree that a lot of the lawsuits against Trump were speculative overreach and I can understand his desire to pay back in kind. But is he doing this because it's a good campaign strategy or to air a personal grievance? One of Trump's strengths is that he throws his opponents off balance by pushing buttons and boundaries. Many political mistakes have been made by Dems under the influence of TDS. Trump's biggest weakness is his lapses of political disipline. His supporters may find that refreshing but he loses swing voters.
"Are there any neurologists or gerontologists in the house? Does a man as far gone as Biden still have feelings?"
Good question. One would imagine tough guy Joey to be very pissed off in taking a dagger to the heart from his friends and colleagues. no denying he is now known as an incompetent loser and quitter. The Biden name is disgraced forever, Everybody is laughing at all of them, from Dr. Jill, to Crack head Hunter, to shower girl. Unfortunate and sad that a man who spent fifty years on govt payroll has to drop out like a punk.
Man up ,Joey, kick some ass!
But is he doing this because it's a good campaign strategy or to air a personal grievance?
I'll go with door 3, the establish a basis to win appeal.
Biden now hates Obama and Pelosi more than he hates Trump? Debatable, but intriguing. Maybe he despises and has contempt for Trump but burns with red-hot rage against the conspirators in his own party. Anyway, Trump's scenario would not be out of place on "House of Cards" or "Veep." I'm still expecting that as in (spoiler alert) "Veep," the election will come down to a 269-269 tie.
Pay attention, Trump. Your opponent is Harris, not Biden. Whining and crying that it is so unfair that they changed up on you isn't going to get you anywhere.
Try to keep up, Trump. Your opponent is Harris, not Biden. Whining and crying that it is so unfair that they changed up on you isn't going to get you anywhere.
I see a lot of posts on X that begin with, "What would you say if..." and then gives some (sometimes outlandish) hypothetical. It's engagement farming. On some platforms that gets you more money. On all of them, it gets your posts shown again and more often to people who respond to the first one. It's good social media management.
The content of the farming posts is irrelevant. Its purpose is only to get people to comment back.
Who's the president, Lefty Mark?
Who unleashed the italics?
If Kamala threatened to invoke the 25th Amendment----which she clearly has the Constitutional power to do---it cannot be a crime for her to do so. That power is one of (few) core functions of her office
Dixcus keeps yammering on about this "crime", but he cites absolutely NO authority for his position, while I am pointing to the language of the 25th itself.
Essentially his position would mean that Congress couldn't threaten the POTUS with impeachment---does that make any sense to anyone?
The problem that the Republicans have that the Democrats did not in 2024, is that Trump has captured the Republican party base and party organization.
There is a large cohort of voters who are attached to him personally and not the Republican Party. Trump has successfully purged a lot of political figures who were Republicans and more moderate conservatives in the party ranks and reorganized the party around sycophants and Trump loyalists.
Biden was boosted by party elites and affiliated media in 2020 in a way that helped him win the nomination. However, outside of his inner circle, he never had a particularly large electoral base that was attached to him personally. Outside of the DNC too, which Biden loyalists controlled, he had no real control over the major donor networks, and was reliant on the support of other major party leaders.
The core of Biden's electoral base are Democrats who will vote for the Democratic nominee regardless of who it is. With Trump he brings in a large unattached group of voters who will only vote for him.
I see your blogger format has changed. Message received.
Dumbold Trump wanting another debate with Joe Biden, it’s so wistful.
The 25th was not "invoked". Doing so would have required the VP and a majority of the Cabinet to transmit to the President pro Temp of the Senate and the House Speaker their **official written declaration** that the POTUS cannot discharge the functions of his office. THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.
But purportedly, Kamala talked about doing so if Biden didn't quietly withdraw his candidacy for another term.. So, in return for withdrawing he gets to keep his title and office, but apparently w/o being in charge.
But Harris and the top Dems will dispute that last part, arguing Biden convinced them that even if he was a flaky candidate he still had enough working neurons to handle being the POTUS.
Which of you out there could credibly dispute that? Who, exactly, would have the legal standing to do so?
I agree that this is a dangerous position for our country to be in.
But for those who claim Harris committed a crime by talking about the 25th, nonsense.
invoke /ĭn-vōk′/
transitive verb
1. To call on (a higher power) for assistance, support, or inspiration.
2. To appeal to or cite in support or justification.
3. To call for earnestly; solicit.
I admit it was not used in the 3rd way, but 2 out of 3 suggests I used the word properly, particularly number 2, which is what it is, a number 2.
Biden was boosted by party elites and affiliated media in 2020
Boosted in 2020, booted in 2024..
Seriously, look at diff between Republican contender Trump, who has taken on Democrats, Deep Staters, Lawfare, and assassins, as opposed to the Top Democrat Biden who folds under pressure from a few backstabbers and quits like a coward. Probably surrenders during every argument with Dr. Jill, as well.
The Democrats are portraying themselves as the "normal" people and Trump/Vance as the weird ones but as Trump is pointing out, there is nothing normal about how Kamala Harris became the Democratic candidate for president.
This is the year there were no primaries or debates to choose the candidates.
It's almost like everyone knows that the president doesn't actually run the executive branch, it's the brand that matters, and other people are doing the job. We don't know or care who those people are? WTF?
Ann Althouse said...
"Who unleashed the italics?"
Julius Caeser
I suspect that the reason we haven't heard from Joe is that he has slipped over that dementia cliff where he no longer knows what's going on around him and/or, if he does, his lack of control over his surroundings is so frightening for him that he just retreats into himself. Joe's dementia has probably gotten so bad that even Jill and Hunter are unable to let him appear in public because it will make them look even worse than they already do for hiding his condition. The elephant in the room continues to be "who's running the show?" With Joe's removal it can't be Jill any longer, so which un-elected individuals are in charge?
"Creative?" Trump always sounds like a peevish 13-year old who is immature for his age. He is a childish dolt and he appeals to childish dolts. It's a sign of how degraded we have become that this isn't immediately recognized by and commented on by everyone who hears him.
One of Trump's strengths is that he throws his opponents off balance by pushing buttons and boundaries. Many political mistakes have been made by Dems under the influence of TDS. Trump's biggest weakness is his lapses of political disipline. His supporters may find that refreshing but he loses swing voters.
I think you need to pick one. Either his strength is good or it is his "biggest weakness. "
I think his biggest strength is that he refuses to abide by the artificial boundaries of "political discipline," which allow our dishonest political mandarins to thrive. At the expense of common sense.
"Robert Cook
"Creative?" Trump always sounds like a peevish 13-year old who is immature for his age."
Impervious to irony.
I would only point out that the 25th Amendment is a component of the US Constitution, and its due exercise is by definition not a coup.
Yeah, not a communist bone in his body.
I think you need to pick one. Either his strength is good or it is his "biggest weakness. "
Perhaps in deciding how to vote personally. But not in describing the dynamics of a politcal race.
I suspect the reason we haven't heard from Joe, is because it has been pointed out that the machinery he thought he controlled is actually being run by others. And these 'others' are also in control of the machinery that has been quietly documenting all of the enriching activities that have up 'till now, passed uncommented - which is not to say, unnoticed, or undocumented. Joe has been re-introduced to the Facts of Life, democrat style. Jill, too.
AFAIC, anything Joe says is directly attributable to Jill.
Althouse, what evidence shows that Trump wrote that post? Most pols don't handle any of their own social media, why on earth burden Trump with being the author of that post? At most he may have approved it, more likely his media crew have general guidelines for filling social media with his presence and proceed like workers in a termite mound to build, build build without him lifting a finger.
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