August 24, 2024

"And multiple speakers delighted the crowd by alluding to the fabricated viral claim that Trump’s running mate, Sen. JD Vance, wrote in his memoir about having sex with furniture."

"'I wouldn’t trust them to move my couch,' Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) said of the GOP ticket on the final night. 'I know a couch commando when I see one,' Rep. Jason Crow (D-Colo.) said minutes later. The jabs were just part of a more expansive case against Trump that Democrats laid out over four nights in Chicago. But they reflected a broader shift in tone for Democrats toward a no-holds-barred kind of rhetorical warfare many in the party once eschewed. Eight years after the Philadelphia convention cheered Michelle Obama’s famous line 'When they go low, we go high' — and with Trump still waging a campaign full of personal insults and baseless accusations... some Democrats said they are tired of being polite...."

From "Democrats once strove to ‘go high’ against Trump. Not anymore. This year’s convention culminated recent efforts to needle Trump on topics known to strike a nerve in the former president, with some Democrats saying they are tired of being polite" (WaPo)(free-access link).

This gets my "civility bullshit" tag, which in this case reflects my belief that the old "When they go low, we go high" was just a strategy choice, to be abandoned when it didn't seem effective... or when the low material is tantalizing enough, like that well-upholstered couch that seems be calling out to you.

By the way, what's with casting shame on masturbators? They vote too. They may not form a bloc that overtly seeks gratification, but you don't have to insult them. They're no more deplorable than many of the voters you make a show of indulging.

Back to the article:
At a Monday rally in Pennsylvania [Trump] repeated his objections to Democrats labeling him and Vance “weird,” saying, “I think we’re extremely normal people.” At another rally on Wednesday in North Carolina, he brought Obama up and called his comments “very nasty.” 
“Did you see Barack Hussein Obama last night, taking little shots?” Trump said.... “They always say, sir, please stick to policy. Don’t get personal. And yet they’re getting personal all night long.” He polled his own crowd: “Do I still have to stick to policy?”

“Noooo!” they shouted.

They always say.... yes, and it's civility bullshit when they say it. They only want you to cut the plain-spoken criticism. When they have equivalent material, they congratulate themselves.

82 comments:

John henry said...

Didn't Clinton's health general publicly endorse masturbation? And call for it to be taught in schools?

The same one who wanted laws requiring safer bullets, jjrc

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narciso said...

they don't actually read books like hillbilly elegy and when they do they make it up, just like the pastiche coffee table book they concocted for obama,
the lies they threw together against palin, the long record of personal and academic fraud, behind red squaw warren, they have no shame,

Bob Boyd said...

How many guys who'd never thought of copulating with their couch decided to try it after this went viral? I bet more couches have been raped this summer than ever before in the history of the world.

Bob Boyd said...

Yeah, but Hillary says you're only supposed to do it in the masturbation equivalent of the missionary position.

cronus titan said...

The convention did seem like the middle school mean girls lunch table. Very impressed with themselves, and nothing to offer other than nasty remarks.

God of the Sea People said...

They are the ones that are so familiar with couch-fucking that they levied the charge and all collectively thought it was so funny that they had to repeat it over and over.

Caroline said...

“We are not going to lose the right to f%@k whoever we want.” Cat ladies and Gentlemen, the Democrat platform.

Just an old country lawyer said...

When did they ever restrain themselves from engaging in the worst calumnies against Trump or any other opponent? George Bush the war criminal? Mitt Romney who is going to put "y'all " back in chains? (Oh, how I hate it when those damned yankee politicians try and use that word. And I'm not just whistling Dixie.)
That's why Michelle's, " when they go low, we go high," was so laughably infuriating: it wasn't that it was "civility bullshit," it was ordinary bullshit, because it just isn't who they are or what they do. My swan.

EdwdLny said...

Well, to be honest soy boys and the other lib ilk are neither original in thought or have any other opportunities.

Democratic Paychecks for Perks/ Dems for Demolition of Democracy/ fake-cares 4-U said...

On top of which - the left use fabrications and lies for their coordinated gotchas.

Modern democrat party = Lying Liars who Lie.

Jamie said...

When did Democrats EVER "strive to 'go high'" against Trump?

Dave Begley said...

Elizabeth Warren rode her false claim to be an Indian to Harvard Law and the US Senate. STFU.

narciso said...

this was why I didn't take Shambling's supposed put down of Jason Crow, so seriously, because he isn't a decent human being,

JK Brown said...

The Democrats keep showing they have nothing but contempt for the enlisted service members, especially Marines. The story was debunked but there are stories of what Marines on deployments to amphibious groups have gotten up to.

Or is this against those young men 12-20 in 1999 (36-44 in 2024) when the movie 'American Pie' came out with the defining scene of defiled pie? An

And remember 1999 was also when Bill Clinton's escapades made the BJ to new goodnight kiss in teenage dating

mezzrow said...

The couch jokes are going to attract 28 year old men like the cat jokes attract 58 year old single women. One would think that any attempt to attract the votes of young men without degrees is beneath the DNC. The very thought gets the 'ew' and a hard pass.
Of course these men don't read or vote because they are too busy couch fucking to do so. It's not like you are dealing with actual humans with rights and dreams. The degree to which this is true will be illuminated in November. If Trump starts giving Kennedy's speech, his chances would be better. Like that would ever happen. We'll see.

Michael K said...

Warren sounded nuts in her speech.

Mr. D said...

It's civility bullshit because it's a lie. No one goes high, especially on that side of the aisle. LBJ blew up the girl with the daisy with an H-bomb and attributed it to Goldwater, which was bullshit. In fact, it's been bullshit all the way back to the John Adams hermaphrodite bullshit from ol' Tom Jefferson.

Sally327 said...

This current crop of Democrats can't hold a candle to Ann Richards, the former Democrat governor of Texas. I still remember her giving the keynote speech at the 1988 DNC convention....the one where she said about the first Bush who was running for President against Michael Dukakis..."poor George, he can't help it,he was born with a silver foot in his mouth..."

Democratic Paychecks for Perks/ Dems for Demolition of Democracy/ fake-cares 4-U said...

Trump and RFK Jr. and Vance are talking about helping the American people in an AUTHENTIC way..
The corrupt fraud lying liar left are yammering on about COUCH FUCKING.

Aggie said...

Well.... I guess I must have been reading too fast. I just finished the book a couple of weeks ago, and never came across this supposed passage. Is it real or characteristically untruthful?

narciso said...

Obama campaigned on bubba the love sponge, against Romney, yes this act is very old,

Eva Marie said...

This is why we conservatives have to stop apologizing when Republicans say/do something that Democrats then criticize. How many times have I heard “if only the Heritage Foundation hadn’t come out with Project 2025” or “ if only JD Vance hadn’t said the words cat ladies” or if only Trump hadn’t used this or that word. It doesn’t matter. The Democrats only aim is to tear Republicans down and they don’t care if their criticisms are true or not.

Sebastian said...

"the fabricated viral claim"

JDV should go lower. "They say I did the couch. At least I didn't blow my mentor or screw my nanny."

Mikey NTH said...

So that's all they got? A junior high locker room joke?

n.n said...

Ottoman, but to each their own. #NoJudgment #NoLabels

It's queer (i.e. twisted), sister; but, not necessarily weird (i.e. fate).

n.n said...

You're weird, and your mommy dresses you funny.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne aka Doug Emhoff's Pimp Hand said...

So I guess they're good with losing the furniture fetishist vote.

Bob Boyd said...

Word round the campfire is, Tim molested a highchair.

Clyde said...

They never “went high.” They were always dirtbags.

Jupiter said...

"baseless accusations". Ahem.

Original Mike said...

"Aggie said...
Well.... I guess I must have been reading too fast. I just finished the book a couple of weeks ago, and never came across this supposed passage. Is it real or characteristically untruthful?"


It's completely fabricated.

RMc said...

From "Democrats once strove to ‘go high’ against Trump

This was...when, exactly...?

Iman said...

That’s the Democrats for you: ALL smoke and mirrors and then the country is irretrievably lost, our way of life is toast.

Iman said...

They’re all about pats on their poo-poos with nothing but grief to show for it. Who in their right minds operate that way?

Mary Beth said...

The only way to respond to the couch comments is to whinny at Walz or the mention of his name. Vance could do a speech and have someone play the sound clip of the horses whinnying at "Frau Blucher" (in Young Frankenstein) when he mentions Walz.

Iman said...

Whoever and whatever, from all reports…

donald said...

You know who’s fucked a bunch of couches? The guy that posted it and Tim Walz. I mean ya can’t ass rape your sin every day.

donald said...

Heh. Keeps autocorrecting son for sin.

Shouting Thomas said...

The feminist movement went through an era when it canonized masturbation as a freeing, noble thing for women. Remember the era of constant dildo propaganda? Female masturbation is most often pictured as an erotic turn on. And, commonly, male masturbation is depicted as a symptom of failure and worthlessness. I think this is because male masturbation deprives women of their rightful pleasure.

FullMoon said...

Obama: 'If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun'

By

WSJ Staff

June 14, 2008 1:29 pm ET

[Editor's note: In the wake of Saturday’s shooting rampage in Tucson, Ariz., a number of lawmakers and others have called for toning down the political rhetoric and President Barack Obama led a moment of silence this morning for the victims. Click hereand herefor more. Also, check back with Washington Wirefor updates.]

Amy Chozickreports on the presidential race from Philadelphia.

Mobster wisdom tells us never to bring a knife to a gun fight. But what does political wisdom say about bringing a gun to a knife fight?

That’s exactly what Barack Obamasaid he would do to counter Republican attacks “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” Obama said at a Philadelphia fundraiser Friday night. “Because from what I understand folks in Philly like a good brawl. I’ve seen Eagles fans.”

The comment drew some laughs and applause. But it also struck a chord with his Republican rival. John McCain’s campaign immediately accused the Democratic candidate of playing the politics of fear. They also mentioned that Obama said he would use a gun that would be illegal under Obama’s plans to cut down on illegal firearms.

“Barack Obama’s call for ‘new politics’ is officially over. In just 24 hours, Barack Obama attacked one of America’s pioneering women CEOs, rejected a series of joint bipartisan town halls, and said that if there’s a political knife fight, he’d bring a gun,” McCain campaign spokesman Tucker Boundssaid in a statement.

Obama made the comment in the context of warning donors that the general election campaign against McCain could get ugly. “They’re going to try to scare people. They’re going to try to say that ‘that Obama is a scary guy,’” he said. A supporter yelled out a deep accented “Don’t give in!”

“I won’t but that sounded pretty scary. You’re a tough guy,” Obama said.

Yancey Ward said...

""When they go low, we go high" was just a strategy choice, to be abandoned when it didn't seem effective... or when the low material is tantalizing enough, like that well-upholstered couch that seems be calling out to you."

That wasn't even an actual strategy- the Democrats never took the high road- Michelle Obama was lying and knew she was lying. The only thing that has changed this cycle is that they have decided to no lie about going low since that lie isn't even believed by their own supporters.

Lazarus said...

Conventions are a mixture of high and low. You have (what are intended to be) the shining moments of visionary rhetoric, and you have the low partisan insults. The media picks out which they want you to focus on. This year's DNC was much bigger on the insults than on stirring rhetoric. More so than is usually the case.

The strategy is probably to needle Trump and Vance with talk about hand size and couches to get under their skin and cause them to lose focus. There's a lot that could be said about Harris and Walz, but 1) it's a distraction from the issues that are the Republicans' strong point this year, and 2) the media labels those attacks as hate filled, racist and misogynistic and ignores the Democrats' barbs against Trump and Vance.

Kevin said...

Democrats once strove to ‘go high’ against Trump.

Assumes facts not in evidence.

Iman said...

“Sounded nuts”? I believe she IS nuts… nuttier than an outhouse rat.

Michael K said...

That was actually a pretty good line.

Skeptical Voter said...

If there is a political gutter around, you know a modern Democrat is wallowing it. The Obamas in particular are masters of the sophisticated sleaze and they both know how to Pile it Higher and Deeper. They've got their PhDs.

Tina Trent said...

Given the choice between someone who has revealed his deeply traumatic childhood privations, and likely slept as an adolescent on couches in singlewides or other subpar housing because he had no stable home, versus a bunch of ill-earned millionaires sucking cash off a wealthy political Party that wants to pump hormones into children, castrate them, and cut out their uteruses and breasts, making them infertile, and also make toddlers watch drag queens strip, the high road lies firmly with the former.

Pun or no pun.

The Democrats would never mock JD Vance's autobiography if he were black and grew up equally deprived of stability. They would protect the image of that deprived child and praise him for overcoming it.

I don't expect much from politicians, but I expect them to behave like something other than the mean girls wearing the best shoes. To junior high.

Go ahead and take away my vote because I'm female. I give in. We're the worst animals, as they say in that Portlandia skit about snails. My husband always votes the way I tell him to anyway.

That should also put a twist on the gender identity project.

William50 said...

JD Vance is a couch f**ker = high
Tim Walz is a needle dick butt f**ker = low

Earnest Prole said...

I’m shocked, shocked to find vulgarity in this establishment.

tim maguire said...

the old "When they go low, we go high" was just a strategy choice

No, it was an empty slogan that they never lived up to. When have Democrats shied away from going low?

Were they going high when they accused Romney of wanting to put blacks in chains? Or when they accused him of giving cancer to old people? Was Barack Obama going high when he made a joke about Sarah Palin and then scratched an itch on his cheek with his middle finger (which he did at least twice)?

When have Democrats shied away from going low?

Narayanan said...

so was Dr Jill hoping for some action dressing like furniture around WH?

Earnest Prole said...

And regarding couches I think we can all agree:

The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'

Click at your own risk.

loudogblog said...

Notice how they say that when Trump does it he's "waging a campaign full of personal insults and baseless accusations." But when the Democrats do it, it's just "needling."

loudogblog said...

Her name was Joycelyn Elders and that cost her her job.

"Elders' comments on masturbation caused great controversy and resulted in Elders losing the support of the White House. Clinton's chief of staff, Leon Panetta, remarked, "There have been too many areas where the President does not agree with her views. This is just one too many."[1] In December 1994, Elders was forced to resign by President Clinton."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joycelyn_Elders


mccullough said...

Pocohantas lied about her ancestry to get ahead. Kamala gave head to an old man to get ahead. Ambition should be made of sterner stuff

mccullough said...

Pocohantas lied about her ancestry to get ahead. Kamala gave head to an old man to get ahead. Ambition should be made of sterner stuff

Freeman Hunt said...

They never went high. That was just a line.

Patrick Henry was right! said...

Why can't you just say, directly say, that they are lying and that they are untrustworthy.

YoungHegelian said...

I just want to speak to the rumor that J.D. Vance as a youth had sex with a couch:

Who are the Democrats to judge J.D. Vance? Maybe he identifies as bi-sectional (rimshot).

And it's not like the couch was innocent in all this. It was a love seat, after all.

At least the couch didn't get pregnant. It was a pull-out (HEY-YOOOOOOOOOOO!).

rehajm said...

Lowlifes that think they’ve been going high

FullMoon said...

Earnest Prole
And regarding couches I think we can all agree:

The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'

Click at your own risk.
Ode to Inga lyrics

Mary Beth said...

Is mentioning the couch funnier than alluding to the horse semen?

Iman said...

The appropriate terminology is needle-dick bugfucker, thank you.

Lawnerd said...

What happened to the democratic party? Where would JFK be in today’s political spectrum? My take is he would be viewed as right wing not even centrist.

tcrosse said...

One could get a nasty surprise when looking between the cushions for spare change.

Gator said...

Being a heterosexual normie I can attest that most normiies boys 12-15 have sex whith every thing in the house- especially the nerf football

walter said...

I suppose it's not humorous to discuss "Pedo Pete" enabling trafficking, rape and showering with his daughter.

tcrosse said...

The current terminology is Far Right.

mikee said...

How many of Bill Clinton's sex partners would rather have bought him a couch? And why didn't Hillary think of getting him one?

Miles said...

The amount of time and energy spent on fan-fiction about J.D. Vance's dick IS amazing. The ghost of Freud must be dancing with joy....

Jim at said...

some Democrats said they are tired of being polite....

I'd laugh at that line if not so many of them actually believe it.
Polite? The left is nothing but a bunch of power-hungry thugs.

Iman said...

Talk about mud flaps, my girl’s got ‘em!

Joe Bar said...

I am shocked. This is my shocked face.

Michael K said...

Yeah, I missed that part.

Michael K said...

One attraction of Trump is that he responds. The GOPe would never bring themselves to be rude.

Darkisland said...

Narayan,

That would actually be a pretty good comeback line for JD Vance to use when someone mentions the sofa "Yeah, I think Jill was trolling me pretty hard with those furniture dresses but I am happily married. Even if I wasn't, she is a bit old for me."

John Henry

Rusty said...

Guys. Let you ladies in on a little male secret. Your average teenage boy will walk into an empty room and wonder if there is anything there he can rub one out to.

dbp said...

"Democrats once strove to ‘go high’ against Trump.

Democrats have never striven to "go high against Trump". If anything, they've always gone low against Republicans, for Trump they've pulled out all the stops. Quite frankly, they have gotten so exaggeration prone, don't know how insane they sound to normal people.

Prospector said...

Huh. I always thought she said, "When they go low, we get high." That made a lot more sense to me.

Griff said...

Any Democrat Party "Principle" is as enduring and dependable as a Kleenex Condom.

AntiBathos said...

Would it have been OK and less weird if Willie Brown were on the couch?

One Fine Day said...

"They would protect the image of that deprived child and praise him for overcoming it."

Untrue, unless the deprived child grows up to be a commie fellow traveler. Otherwise, the Dems would treat him the same. Reference Clarence Thomas.