Writes Jerusalem Demsas, in "The Problem With Coronating Kamala Harris/The No. 2 spot has never been a guarantee of a promotion" (The Atlantic).
Demsas, a black woman, worked on Harris’s 2020 presidential campaign.
July 10, 2024
"One common argument for why the party should coronate Harris in Biden’s absence is that skipping over her would be racist—or be perceived as such..."
"... by Black Democratic voters. Yet Black voters have shown time and again that their interests are practical and that their demands are strategic: Give us a candidate who will win.... ... I find the invocation of Black voters’ interests here extremely cynical. It looks more like a strategy by some Harris supporters to make potential challengers appear racist or indifferent to people of color than an actual argument about viability.... To be frank, I don’t think Harris is the strongest choice to defeat Trump.... She’s in the unfortunate position of either having helped conceal Biden’s current condition or having been too far from the action to observe it up close. But perhaps the biggest concern is that, according to multiple accounts, the Biden administration has not entrusted her with opportunities to lead...."
Writes Jerusalem Demsas, in "The Problem With Coronating Kamala Harris/The No. 2 spot has never been a guarantee of a promotion" (The Atlantic).
Writes Jerusalem Demsas, in "The Problem With Coronating Kamala Harris/The No. 2 spot has never been a guarantee of a promotion" (The Atlantic).
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"the Biden administration has not entrusted her with opportunities to lead...."
Didn't he put her in charge of the border? I'm not being sarcastic; the border is arguably the country's biggest problem.
"But perhaps the biggest concern is that, according to multiple accounts, the Biden administration has not entrusted her with opportunities to lead...."
Holy cow there it is. Ace at Ace of Spade's "White men have failed to position Kamala for success" from one of their own. Triple word score! 7-11 dice!
I'm hitting the casino and putting it all on black...you cannot make this shit up!
The cope begins.
But they are just trying to keep the speculation off the eventual actual nominee.
They need to make sure they nominate “someone” and keep them “someone” through the election.
As soon as any possible candidates become who they are and receive scrutiny they will lose votes.
"It looks more like a strategy by some Harris supporters to make potential challengers appear racist or indifferent to people of color"
Where did they come up with this novel strategy? Why has no one thought of this before?
They had her give the ultimatum to putin thdy put her in charge of ai no they dint give her the keys to the cobalt bomb
So, The Atlantic, a globalist neocon publication found a Black person to attack Kam Harris and she supposedly "Speaks for blacks". OK. Isn't it funny how they can always do this.
It seems this Democrat elite opposition to Harris is based on her not being able to beat Trump - not on her competence. Its purely opportunistic and pragmatic. Well sorry guys, you approved of her being VP. So, now she's the logical successor.
Biden and Harris are now in the weird position of being Underdogs fighting the elites and the "establishment". Crazy.
IMO, there are only two reasons Harris is in the conversation.
She's Black.
She's a woman.
So even though Jerusalem Demsas worked on Laughin' Kamala's 2020 Presidential campaign, she too knows Kamala is a dingbat.
From what I've seen, it is black men that are peeling off toward Trump. Seems this is an admission that Kamala doesn't have the ability to get them back home.
I cringe at the use of "coronate". Isn't "crown" better suited?I
And never mind the fact that it's not a Monarch that's being chosen. Or did I miss our transition?
Not only could Jesus Christ himself not be able to position Vice President kneepads for success, she'd fire him like 90% of her staff over the last 4 years.
That ho could screw up a PBJ, likely due to misinterpretation of what "BJ" in the acronym stood for.
So a coup then.
If lives weren't at stake this would be comical.Instead it's just absurd. Every alternative they can think of is worse than the situation they're actually in.
Blogger Crimso said…"Where did they come up with this novel strategy? Why has no one thought of this before?"
You owe me a new screen, Crimso.
"has not entrusted her with opportunities to lead...."
But I thought she was in charge of fixing the border!
She came from vox nuff said
Harris' 2020 campaign ended so quickly, so early, because she did not have the support of the black community. That same community that didn't support her then is supposed to be so lined up behind her now that they have to choose her?
Who thinks that makes sense?
"But perhaps the biggest concern is that, according to multiple accounts, the Biden administration has not entrusted her with opportunities to lead....
What? They sent Kamala to Europe to invite Ukraine to join NATO. That started a war.
She was very successful. She lead Russian and Ukraine into war which was her assigned task.
They keep making these inadvertent references to royalty, don't they?
Never mind that we nominated the least popular candidate to be the VP, because she was female and black, we did it because we have principles, darn it. Which we now are forced to abandon, because reasons.
I don't think it will fly. They've ceded so much power and authority to the CBC that now there is a reckoning on leverage. These arguments are directed at them.
Tulsi put her down like old yeller they never forgave her for that
A year or so ago, my millennial son smugly told me that Nancy Reagan's name was all over Twitter as the blow-job Queen of Hollywood. Of course, it wasn't on my Twitter feed, but algorithms reign. I had never heard the story but a bit of research told me that it is based on one tabloid book about Mrs. Reagan 30 years ago and the slime merchants of Twitter will do their slime.
When I told him that Kamala's rise to power was because she was the BJ Queen of Sacramento (THIS directly from political friend in CA that worked with the GOP caucus who said Willie was simply one of many) and that's how she began her rise, he was surprised - he had never heard it before. I said "Google It". Trump and the GOP don't need to hint at Kamala's past and rise to power - no matter hard they try, the DOJ and FBI can't keep that off the internet - plus Streisand affect.
“the Biden administration has not entrusted her with opportunities to lead…”
She cannot be responsible for anything. Them’s the rules for DEI hires.
It’s also BS. She was in charge of the non-problem at the border. And managed it really well until Trump prevented the bipartisan Border Bill from passing. That bill would have solved the non-problem that she successfully managed.
She also very successfully educated the entire country on “the significance of the passage of time”. Only Joe himself could’ve done better describing that one.
The real reason that polls show Kamala as “unlikeable” is simple. She’s unlikeable.
Fuck a buncha that! How does America feel about Blue States/Blue Cities pushing their new cultural norm of “you can steal anything at anytime and there are no consequences” throughout the USA.
These leftwing, shitbird morons must be stopped.
If Harris gets crowned this way and goes on to further prove what we all know about her lack of competency, it’ll be a long time before a Black woman is selected for a high station again. It’d be lunaticacal. (Yes, I just made up that word because Jonah G called a panel peer a lunatic.)
"Black voters have shown time and again that their interests are practical and that their demands are strategic ...." What bilge! Black voters vote for Democrats because they vote for Democrats.
Meanwhile, the black community becomes more lawless while law abiding members are prey. Those who have escaped join the Democrat elite, trading on their blackness and helping to exploit the community.
Fredo Harris.
Problem is that anyone else who might be a replacement is also mediocre. If they replace a mediocre WOMAN of color for some white mediocrity, that WILL present problems in the Black community.
Take the Black vote for granted at your own risk.
Same with pro-lifers.
Came from kitty kelley i think of course sally quinn is literally a witch and few bat and eye the only obstacle was odonnell who experimented as a teen shes the heretic
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"They sent Kamala to Europe to invite Ukraine to join NATO."
Is that right?
Because not having her run would be racist.
Wasn't she Indian at one point? Now she is black? The party, supported by single women, can't define what a women is, let alone what race she/her/it/zer is.
I find the invocation of Black voters’ interests here extremely cynical. It looks more like a strategy by some Harris supporters to make potential challengers appear racist or indifferent to people of color...
What? This is the foundation of the Democratic Party's exploitation of Identity Politics. Their Coalition of the Marginalized collapses without it.
NKP:
IMO, there are only two reasons Harris is in the conversation.
She's Black.
She's a woman.
Three: She put out.
"the Biden administration has not entrusted her with opportunities to lead"
Ah, so the JB admin did something right!
But I thought she was appointed border czar? OK, on second thought, just opening the border and allowing the invasion takes no leadership.
“Yet Black voters have shown time and again that their interests are practical and that their demands are strategic:”
Then why do they keep electing Democrats who give them high crime, rotten schools, and policies that drive good private sector jobs out of their cities?
I’m baffled.
The only voices of wisdom from the dems right now are from those who are saying, in effect, "Trump is going to win and we just have to deal with it."
The dems made their bed by sticking with Biden as their candidate for 2024. They made their bed by selecting Kamala as his veep and then sticking with her as Biden's running mate for a second term despite the fact that virtually nobody thinks she's competent or likable enough to be an effective president.
They made their bed and now need to sleep in it.
Trying to dump Biden and Harris now would render the whole primary season a nullity and sets a precedent that parties whose candidates are losing in the polls in the summer before election day should swap in a new candidate chosen in haste by convention delegates or the national party. This is undemocratic and another abandonment of accepted norms.
It'd also be a slap in the face to the veep and her supporters, and an open admission that she never should have been chosen as Biden's running mate in the first place.
Pulling the plug on Biden-Harris would also still result in a Trump victory, in all probability. It's just a Hail Mary, but one that comes with the downsides mentioned above.
If you're the dems, you're better to just letting this play out and try again in 2028.
@Drinkwater: I cringe at the use of "coronate". Isn't "crown" better suited?I
I very much agree. This is an example of a hypercorrection error, i.e. an error that is made in an attempt to make oneself sound more erudite than one actually is, such as the phrase "between you and I."
I just want to see her debate Trump.
RideSpaceMountain said...
That ho could screw up a PBJ, likely due to misinterpretation of what "BJ" in the acronym stood for.
GROSS! it sticks to the roof of my mouth!!!
Hassayamper said...
@Drinkwater: I cringe at the use of "coronate". Isn't "crown" better suited?I
I very much agree. This is an example of a hypercorrection error, i.e. an error that is made in an attempt to make oneself sound more erudite than one actually is, such as the phrase "between you and I."
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Or pronouncing "erudite" as "airy u dite".
narciso said...
Came from kitty kelley.....
Thanks narciso - I was too lazy to try and locate the reference but your instant recall came to the rescue.
FJB became mentally incompetent over time but Kamala has never changed.
Joe is senile and Kamala is just plain dumb and everyone who counts knows it. Even Dems are concerned enough about the state of the country not to let Kamala anywhere near command.
"having been too far from the action to observe it up close. "
Despite her lengthy statements witnessing Pedo Pete's brilliance.
Three: She put out.
A memory lapse on my part.
If race/gender appears to be a deciding factor, it would be good to remember that women far outnumber blacks.
Going for a twofer is overkill. The next step would be tapping someone like the White House Press Secretary.
Even if you accept that African-American voters, especially female African-American voters, wouldn't care that an African-American woman VP was passed over in favor of, say, a white guy with nice hair (dubious), I can assure you that the woke white women and woke college students would be absolutely in a tizzy over such an action. Really, the "African-American woman for VP" promise was for the woke part of the party more than anyone else. It was the ultimate DEI.
It is ironic that Biden (or his handlers) made the "wise" decision to have a VP even less competent (arguable) and likeable (true) than Biden, and this decision is now biting them in the arse. Even when Biden (or "Biden") makes the right decision, it is wrong.
"...skipping over her would be racist."
Skipping over her would be sane.
Placing her on the ticket was racist.
@Static Ping, to quote a former President: Don't underestimate Joe's ability to [eff] things up.
'Coronate.' Tell me you're illiterate without saying so.
Original Mike said...
"They sent Kamala to Europe to invite Ukraine to join NATO."
Is that right?
Another lying whore heard from.
Trying to dump Biden and Harris now would render the whole primary season a nullity and sets a precedent that parties whose candidates are losing in the polls in the summer before election day should swap in a new candidate chosen in haste by convention delegates or the national party.
In about 12 years maybe the presidential election will look like this:
You vote for the party first and then the candidate second.
Each party puts forth a slate of candidates and you choose the slate and then you choose which person on the slate you prefer.
Results would look like this:
Democrat* 50.1%
Biden 16%
Harris 13%
Pete B 10%
Shapiro 8%
etc
Republican 49.9%
Trump 28%
Vivek 8%
Haley 6%
DeSantis 5%
Etc
And the will would be Biden (even though Trump got more of the vote)
This way the Dems get to keep control of the government without having to produce viable candidates.
*Note the term used.
Demsas, a black woman, worked on Harris’s 2020 presidential campaign.
And a bang-up job she did!
Maybe Harris learned something about diversity hires...
I cringe at the use of "coronate"
Perhaps "crowning" makes them think too much of birthin' babies, though I believe in old slang, to crown someone was to wup him soundly upside the head.
At least, except for last spring, "coronate" is less common than "gifted," that replaced both "given" AND "gave." Who started that carp?
Harris is not the only black woman in a leadership position in the Democractic party. Maxine Waters. Shiela Jackskon Lee. Cora Bush. Secretary Fudge. Lori Lightfoot, or any of a number of accomplised mayors. Biden could stand down in deference to one of these.
OK. We’ll play by your rules. So George Clooney is racist now.
Diversity box-checking has failed us. The only hope now is a confession from Kamala that she didn't vote for Joe Biden in 2020.
Problem with Harris is black voters don't like Harris, aren't inclined to go vote for Harris for president. Nobody actually "likes" Harris, and many black politicians actively dislike her. She polls worse than Biden.
If Harris becomes replacement Democratic presidential candidate, post-Biden chaos, Democrats will belatedly discover many black voters intend to vote for Trump, or not vote altogether.
Most African-American voters don't consider Kamala to be "black". They see her as "high-yellow" 1st-generation Asian-Caribbean former prosecutor who put a lot of black men in prison, an uppity white-bread lady, once society girlfriend of powerful Black politician, and now wife of a rich Jewish lawyer. Little commonality, little attraction, Harris has no electable credentials, as demonstrated in her 2019 primary-results.
Harris' problem is that she is not black black.
She has no ties to traditional African Americans whose ancestors were brought here as slaves.
That, and she's dumb.
Oh, and also a shade or two whiter than this European citizen.
When she first popped onto the political scene I thought she was Hispanic.
Btw, Joe goes when Obama says so.
All Obama has to do is hold a press conference and Joe is done.
Even if you accept that African-American voters, especially female African-American voters, wouldn't care that an African-American woman VP was passed over in favor of, say, a white guy with nice hair (dubious), I can assure you that the woke white women and woke college students would be absolutely in a tizzy over such an action.
Is it still a "White Savior complex" if you're a woman? Or does it roll over into "(white) devouring mother" at that point?
I think this analysis is spot-on.
I also think the writer's contention that black voters are pragmatic and strategic can be viewed as true if you limit the word "voters" to "community leaders" - those people are very very pragmatic and personally strategic, but also seem less than fully committed, shall we say, to the actual welfare of the people who are influenced strongly by how those leaders tell them they should vote.
The Big Problem with Kamala: If they install Kamala as the President…Kamala IS THE PRESIDENT and the people who have been doing the job of President ARE NO LONGER PRESIDENT….
All Obama has to do is hold a press conference and Joe is done
…all Obama has to do is hold a press conference telling everyone to knock it off and Joe is President and everyone whining about it is done…
Jerusalem Demsas writes, "The no. 2 spot has never been a guarantee of promotion."
Well, duh.
The Atlantic, the My Weekly Reader of progressive horse pucky, continues to live down to my expectations.
"She’s in the unfortunate position of either having helped conceal Biden’s current condition or having been too far from the action to observe it up close," says Miss Demsas, as if anyone who hasn't been pointing a finger at the demented cipher residing at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue is somehow innocent of that all too obvious deceit. Everyone who hasn't commented online or turned to a friend and said, "Joe Biden is a crackbrained husk" sometime before the Debate from Hell, is as guilty as Kamala Harris. In fact, everyone of those obfuscators with at least a normal IQ is far more guilty. Harris has the virtue of idiocy in her favor.
I remember the summer of '74 so well - culminating in Nixon resigning. This has the same feel. It's becoming a cascade. I fully expect Biden to - not just withdraw from the race (a la LBJ) - but to resign from the presidency. I think it will happen before July 20. Maybe next week. Then we will see a Harris presidency.
"Btw, Joe goes when Obama says so.
All Obama has to do is hold a press conference and Joe is done."
Actually, Joe goes when George Clooney says so because Obama told George Clooney to say so.
All of this shit is so fucking gay and feminine...you wonder if any of these dudes actually have a penis. What a bunch of queers. Literally.
Some say he's a potato. While others want a potuhta.
Pedo Pete could not compete.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH-1K_zspho&t=19s
"One common argument for why the party should coronate Harris in Biden’s absence is that skipping over her would be racist—or be perceived as such by Black Democratic voters.
It would be, correctly, perceived by everybody as a complete repudiation of DEI. It's not just black voters that would flip over this.
To be frank, I don’t think Harris is the strongest choice to defeat Trump.... She’s in the unfortunate position of either having helped conceal Biden’s current condition or having been too far from the action to observe it up close. But perhaps the biggest concern is that, according to multiple accounts, the Biden administration has not entrusted her with opportunities to lead...."
Um, bullshit. They've given her multiple opportunities to lead, She's just utterly failed at all of them.
Writes Jerusalem Demsas, in "The Problem With Coronating Kamala Harris/The No. 2 spot has never been a guarantee of a promotion" (The Atlantic).
Really? When's the last time a VP from either Party wanted the nomination, and didn't get it?
Joe chose not to run in 2016. Cheney chose not to run in 2008. Gore got the nod in 2000. Quayle chose not to run in 1996. Bush got it in 1988. Mondale got it in 1984, Humphrey got it in 1968. Nixon got it in 1960
The VP spot has pretty much always a guarantee of getting the top spot on the 1st available election, if you wanted it
Hundreds of thousands or more - illegal entrants will be voting for Crook Joe.
why on earth are they worried> ?
When did "coronate " replace the much simpler "crown"?
Joe Smith said...
Btw, Joe goes when Obama says so.
All Obama has to do is hold a press conference and Joe is done.
Nope. Joe goes when Jill says so. And Jill isn't going to say so.
She is going to be the "First Lady", and fly in Air Force One, and ride in Presidential Motorcades, and control the power of the President of the United States, until Jan 20, 2025, and she will not let anything other than death pull her out.
None of the Biden's give a shit about anyone but themselves. And none of the others have anything to offer the Biden that's more than what they have by saying "F up"
Hell, if they lead the Dems to an epic loss, Trump isn't going to prosecute them for their crimes, he'll thank them.
When is Joe's Big Boy press conference? Will it be televised live?
Hogwash.
If Joe doesn't go voluntarily (that is, withdraw from running for re-election), then the Dems will haul out the 25th amendment and force him out now. I think that is precisely the next step they will take.
They will let him finish his term if he withdraws shortly, on medical (not dementia) grounds.
Blogger Original Mike said...
When is Joe's Big Boy press conference? Will it be televised live?
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preview of the attraction
There's about 3 and a half months to the election. To get Biden out there would have to be Congress impeaching and convicting (good luck, Congress is busy campaigning) or the 25th Amendment (which only works if the president is in a coma). Other than that, persuade him to resign or drop from reelection - good luck with that).
I don't see how any of that works in the time left. I can speculate, but someone in that office, with all the powers available (including pardon) isn't too susceptible to pressure from outside.
Nixon is the outlier because (a) the House was controlled by the Democrats and (b) the Senate was controlled by Democrats and Republican senators told him he didn't have enough support to beat conviction. Republicans control the House, why would they break their campaigns to get the Democrats out of this jam?
I can't see it.
"One common argument for why the party should coronate Harris in Biden’s absence is that skipping over her would be racist ..."
The race card has been maxed for a while now.
"It looks more like a strategy by some Harris supporters to make potential challengers appear racist or indifferent to people of color"
The problem I see is that Biden made a deal 4 1/2 years ago with the Black establishment, through Rep Clyburn. The Black establishment got Harris, and Biden got their support. We aren’t so much talking run of the mill Blacks, but esp Black ministers (illegally) pushing their candidacy from the pulpit. The danger is that these Black ministers, etc, aren’t going to push the Dem candidate, and worse, that there won’t be a counter to Trump coming into Black communities and pushing his own candidacy. And this year, as we have seen, the threat is real. A lot of Blacks really like Trump. He speaks to many of them*. Black leadership had a deal with the Dems’ white leadership, and the latter are talking about welshing on it.
*Trump’s attraction to Blacks this year is not an illusion. We have a place at Trump’s hotel in Las Vegas. Meet a lot of Blacks there, including much of the staff. He has a lot of Blue Collar appeal, which is important in heavily unionized towns like LAS. Because of where we live, I have a lot of Trump hats (today’s is Navy Blue), and I get a lot of positive comments on them - and in that town, by a lot of working Class Blacks.
Sounds like a resentful, authentic black woman getting her digs in at the fake black VP.
"Black voters have shown time and again that their interests are practical and that their demands are strategic: Give us a candidate who will win...."
Let's see, what was that definition of insanity again?
"Demsas, a black woman, worked on Harris’s 2020 presidential campaign." So, a temp job.
"Coronate" Harris? What's wrong with the perfectly good English word "crown"?
The Democrats see themselves as royalty. Just imagine if *doctor* Jill Biden has her own pomp-and-circumstance music play every time she enters the room!
Kamala Harris is also in the unfortunate position of being Kamala Harris. That is her primary problem with a proposed presidential run, as seen in her previous aborted campaign for the office.
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