July 21, 2024

Biden drops out!

The NYT reports.

After three weeks of often angry refusals to step aside, Mr. Biden finally yielded to a torrent of devastating polls, urgent pleas from Democratic lawmakers and clear signs that donors were no longer willing to pay for him to continue.

Mr. Biden’s decision abruptly ends one political crisis that began when the president delivered a calamitous debate performance against Mr. Trump on June 27. But for the Democratic Party, Mr. Biden’s withdrawal triggers a second crisis: who to replace him with, and specifically whether to rally around Vice President Kamala Harris or kick off a rapid effort to find someone else to be the party’s nominee.

My longstanding tag — "biden drops out" — has come true.

MORE: Will he be able to avoid the pressure to resign as President? From "Biden Drops Out of Race, Scrambling the Campaign for the White House/The president’s withdrawal under pressure from fellow Democrats after a disastrous debate cleared the way for a new nominee to take on former President Donald J. Trump in the fall" (NYT)(free-access link):
“It has been the greatest honor of my life to serve as your President,” he said in a letter posted on social media. “And while it has been my intention to seek re-election, I believe it is in the best interest of my party and the country for me to stand down and to focus solely on fulfilling my duties as President for the remainder of my term.”

Mr. Biden, who evidently plans to serve out his term through January even as he pulls out as a candidate, said he would “speak to the nation later this week in more detail about my decision” and expressed thanks to Vice President Kamala Harris “for being an extraordinary partner in all this work.” But he did not immediately endorse her and said nothing about how the Democratic Party should proceed to pick a new nominee....

Right now, the Democratic Party has no candidate, while Trump is going strong and the Republicans have completed their nominating process with a nicely run convention. 

BUT: That says "he did not immediately endorse her," but on X, Biden tweets that he is endorsing her:
My fellow Democrats, I have decided not to accept the nomination and to focus all my energies on my duties as President for the remainder of my term. My very first decision as the party nominee in 2020 was to pick Kamala Harris as my Vice President. And it’s been the best decision I’ve made. Today I want to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala to be the nominee of our party this year. Democrats — it’s time to come together and beat Trump. Let’s do this.

AND: Back to "Biden Drops Out of Race, Scrambling the Campaign":

No sitting president has dropped out of a race so late in the election cycle in American history, and Ms. Harris and any other contenders for the nomination will have just weeks to earn the backing of the nearly 4,000 delegates to the Democratic National Convention.

Why would any good Democrat compete against Kamala for the nomination? The process will become simple... won't it? She only needs half of the delegates.

MORE: I'm suddenly hit with a feeling of great relief: We won't have to think about Biden anymore... assuming we survive until January.
His decision to withdraw makes him an outlier in American history. Only three presidents have served four years or less without seeking a second term, all of them during the 19th century: James K. Polk, James Buchanan and Rutherford B. Hayes. Several others wanted another term but failed to secure their party’s nomination.

But he clung to it as long as he could, even as his party mates were prying his fingers away from power. What a sad case of a presidency... and what will Kamala do with it as a foundation for a new one? He's the only one who ever picked her. The American people have never shown any liking for her at all. 

ALSO: Here's another NYT article, saying that the process will be complicated:

First, the party could rally around Kamala Harris, the vice president, as a unifying force during a time of crisis. That would be the easiest road to take....

Some Democrats have argued that anointing a candidate is risky, and say that the party would be better off with a competition and a more democratic selection process. That would require another candidate to get in the race.... 
Among the potential candidates to watch are a handful of governors: Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan, Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania, Gavin Newsom of California, JB Pritzker of Illinois and Andy Beshear of Kentucky. Other potential candidates include Pete Buttigieg, the secretary of transportation, and Senators Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota and Cory Booker of New Jersey.

President Biden... does not control his delegates: He cannot tell them whom to vote for next month.... And any attempt to anoint his successor could risk setting off ideological and generational battling in the party, potentially weakening the ultimate nominee as he or she battles Mr. Trump....

The Biden-Harris campaign has, as of May 30, $91 million. If Ms. Harris is the candidate, that money is hers.... One candidate who would be free of these shackles is Mr. Pritzker, a billionaire who could finance the campaign on his own....

Maybe it all depends on the polls. They just ousted Biden for bad polls. If Kamala's polls are bad — and they have been bad so far — why not grab for someone else?  

195 comments:

Original Mike said...

Too bad. It was important that "his" policies receive a drubbing at the battle box.

Sebastian said...

Bad news for Trump and America.

Iman said...

Anyway…

doctrev said...

The grind is going to be brutal. JD Vance was already fantastic for pointing out the truth: if Biden is too senile to run, he's too senile to be President.

Talk about a magic bullet, eh. It missed Trump and destroyed the Biden campaign.

Rich said...

Trump is too old to be a president.

Leland said...

I'm not seeing reports from a more credible source at this time.

rehajm said...

….misses Trump and hits Joe…and probably the rest of us…

Iman said...

No endorsement of Quemala.

Doktor Jill and media buffoons hardest hit…

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

Exactly on time. The anonymous sources have been saying Biden will drop out as soon as Sunday. Strange how that worked.

Michael Fitzgerald said...

Althouse scoops Ace and Instapundit, my two other go-to blogs. Althouse- First for breaking news!

Skeptical Voter said...

And oh by the way, Dr. Jill and I got nice severance payment from the DNC--that's no malarkey. And I can pardon Hunter, so there is that.

Dave Begley said...

Ann:

Please do a poll on the replacement and include Hillary in the choices.

Clyde said...

Bye-ku for Old Joe:

Biden has dropped out!
Last stop for his family
On the gravy train.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

Leland said...

I'm not seeing reports from a more credible source at this time.

https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1815080881981190320

Dave Begley said...

That’s the question: How much was the Biden Crime Family paid for Joe to drop out?

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

Leland, Biden announced it on Twitter.

Mason G said...

"Trump is too old to be a president."

Actually, he's not. There is no age limit for the office.

Dixcus said...

14 million Democrat Party primary voters have just been disinfranchised. Largest disenfranchisement in US history.

Unprecedented.

Dave Begley said...

Joe will cite his health as the reason and absolutely mention St. Beau in his address.

Another old lawyer said...

Trump will almost certainly "lose" now. Hope I'm wrong.

Leland said...

I see the source.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

The blood letting at the DNC convention will be spectacular!

Rosalyn C. said...

Bring back Hillary!!

Leland said...

I just kept reading how we might avoid SMOD.

Dave Begley said...

China will attack Taiwan soon.

Meade said...

One-termer.

Unless he comes back at the end of Trump’s second term.

Lucien said...

Why would one trust the Times on this?

ThreeSheets said...

Won't they have to nominate someone before the convention so that person gets on the Ohio ballot?

RMc said...

Althouse scoops Ace and Instapundit

I actually heard this on CBC Radio in Canada, then immediately came here.

Wow.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

Meade said...

One-termer.

Unless he comes back at the end of Trump’s second term.


Well, dead people do regularly vote......

Disparity of Cult said...

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Aught Severn said...

Blogger NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...
Leland said...

I'm not seeing reports from a more credible source at this time.

https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1815080881981190320

7/21/24, 1:11 PM


Because Twitter accounts can't get hacked? Just ask... who was it, Joy Reid? Some celebrity or politician who claimed, without evidence, that their account had been hacked and that's why mean or stupid stuff got posted.

But think think of how awesome it would be if this was an anti-Biden Democrat who got control of the account from the intern that runs it and posted this. How do you, as Biden, respond? Do you yank it and make the far-fetched hacking claim? Do you allow yourself to be pushed out so you don't look like an incompetent idiot? Seems like a bit of Wag the Dog scenario.

Kate said...

YAY!

Step one. Now we need him to resign as POTUS.

What a time we live in.

Rich said...

'The first party to retire its 80-year-old candidate is going to be the one who wins this election' ~ Nikki Haley

mezzrow said...

Watching this process spin out has been like having an old-school French pressed duck prepared tableside. As long as you don't think about the duck, you can have a marvelous time.

Let's see if the nation is ready for a heaping helping of whatever is next. There will be so much unity. I'm sure there won't be any more noteworthy events between now and the convention.

Iman said...

And he endorses Quemala…

Like a kick to the groin of the Democrat Party.

rehajm said...

…a quick check of the latest polls (remember polls?) shows Kamala is less popular than the cadaver…

Joe Smith said...

Shows you how much Ds really care about democracy®

rehajm said...

A Joe endorsement of Kamala deserves another Clooney op-ed

Rich said...

Speaker Johnson predicts legal battles if Biden replaced
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4784191-mike-johnson-legal-battles-joe-biden-replaced/

The Republicans will release an avalanche of legal and political objections if a new candidate is selected. This will create more disenchantment with American democracy.

Aught Severn said...

Blogger rehajm said...
….misses Trump and hits Joe…and probably the rest of us…

7/21/24, 1:07 PM


I was thinking along similar lines, but was using the old 'always descending on the US and landing in Europe' thing as a basis.

Never quite completed the thought, though.

Joe Smith said...

'Unless he comes back at the end of Trump’s second term.'

Zombie Joe 2028!

Jersey Fled said...

Joe is waiting for after the election to pardon Hunter. That’s why he wants to serve out his term.

Mary Beth said...

"But on X..."

As if Joe Biden writes his own tweets.

Gospace said...

I was one of the people who said month ago it's not going to be Trump vs. Biden on the ballot. My first guess it would be Trump v. demoncRAT to be named later, second- neither. And it's not entirely impossible that the assassination attempt was set up to make it the latter.

The demoncRAT convention is going to be lit.

narciso said...

Gunther grass referred by jean jacques revel

Dave Begley said...

Hillary - Pete will be the ticket.

I want to see JD destroy Pete.

Lloyd W. Robertson said...

Biden's letter doesn't seem to endorse Kamala, or even say he will personally support her candidacy.

Leland said...

The most trusted name in news

Big Mike said...

My longstanding tag — "biden drops out" — has come true.

Yes. I can finally stop being bothered by your use of the wrong verb tense.

Greg the Class Traitor said...

So, I was wrong

Will he be able to avoid the pressure to resign as President?

No, he won't.

Because the right wing legal "industry" is going to start filing lawsuits about every EO and every executive branch action, saying that since Biden is not mentally competent to be President, he can't use his powers himself, and can't grant anyone else the power to use them

The GOP is going to be pounding on "who do the Democrats have running the country?"

If the Dems want the spotlight off of Biden, they're going to have to cut him loose.

25th Amendment, here we come!

loudogblog said...

Rich said...
'The first party to retire its 80-year-old candidate is going to be the one who wins this election' ~ Nikki Haley

Trump is not 80 years old. he's 78. (And he turned 78 last month.)

doctrev said...

Rich said...
'The first party to retire its 80-year-old candidate is going to be the one who wins this election' ~ Nikki Haley

7/21/24, 1:19 PM

Oh Bich. The butthurt from the partisans Trump ground into the dirt and the LLR traitors will never truly abate. Refresh my memory, what did Nikki Haley say at the RNC convention?

cfs said...

106 days until the election and the Democrats just jettisoned their voter elected candidate. Now the four (or more ) factions of the party can start fighting for control. The Democrat party convention will be held in four weeks. I suspect it will be quite a party indeed!

narciso said...

So you still have an incompetent president and an ignorant understudy woohoo

Limited blogger said...

CNN already has Kamala picking Whitmer as her running mate.

doctrev said...

"Joe Biden
@JoeBiden
·
19h
It’s a miracle, folks. Donald told the truth for once.

It’s the most important election of our lifetimes.

And I will win it."

Either this tweet is gonna age like milk, or someone really stupid is in charge of Joe Biden's Twitter.

JAORE said...

Kamala? I'd bet on it. But she's a terrible candidate.

Someone other than Kamala? You'll lose substantial numbers of the Vote Vagina, Select a Skin democrats.

In a tight race, Kamala's a loser, not Kamala is a disaster.

Dave Begley said...

I am one of the few Americans who saw Kamela campaign for President. It was in Council Bluffs, Iowa. The only thing I remember was lots of Black women there. I also took a picture of Doug.

Tom T. said...

It would be amazing if this turned out to be an unauthorized tweet from a social media intern.

Breezy said...

“The Republicans will release an avalanche of legal and political objections if a new candidate is selected. This will create more disenchantment with American democracy.“

According to Speaker Johnson, in some states there are some laws that prohibit switching the winner of the primary elections at this point. I presume those states are simply protecting democracy via protecting their voters choice. It’s not Republicans causing this mess, obviously. It’s the unparalleled idiocy of the Dems for not stopping Joe a year ago.

Kate said...

The new car smell of a fresh tag.

JAORE said...

Trump is too old to be a president.

Rich, you have a marginal chance that plays to the low IQ voters.

For the rest of us it is clear that the issue is not age. Biden is senile. Not age, competence, cognition and energy.

Drago said...

Shameless and Moronic LLR-democratical Rich: Trump is doomed and the dems dont have to follow laws and rules!

Also Shameless and Moronic LLR-democratical Rich: Pkease get rid of Trump and please dont challenge New Soviet Democratical law and rule breaking!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

RCOCEAN II said...

Joe Biden - what a clown. What a loser. Didn't even have the guts to run for re-election.

Goodbye you fake.

Bob Boyd said...

Next project, get Biden to step down so Kamala will be able to run as the incumbent. Shouldn't be too hard. All he'll care about now is his family and his legacy. Both are highly vulnerable if certain things are investigated and reported on.

Bart Hall (Kansas, USA) said...

@Rich said "Trump is too old to be a president."

Calendar is not the issue -- strength, dynamism, and clarity are. Churchill was in fine shape to return to #10 after the 4-year Atlee disaster. He was 77, withdrew as PM in '55 [age 81] and continued on for some yers as an effective MP.

Konrad Adenauer led West Germany through a crucial transition period from 1949 to 1963, at which point he retired, age 89.

The great historian, Jacques Barzun, published his magnum opus book at age 95, and his final peer-reviewed scholarly article at age 103.

Joe Biden demonstrated his inability to do such things long before he was 50 yo, and it's gone downhill from there for at least the last 30 years.

Trump gives every appearance of resembling the first three men.

Shouting Thomas said...

There goes the “my democracy” argument. Dems will nominate a candidate who didn’t go through the primaries. Return to the smoke filled back room! Party bosses and donors to decide.

Darkisland said...

This was in another thread but more appropriate here:

But if they do decide to replace kamala expect to see a lot of stories about how she is not black but Indian. Shots of her birth certificate showing the mother as "Caucasian" her father Jamaican. Her father's family owned slaves. She spent her formative years in Canada. Went to a "white" college. Married a Jewish white man.

And so on and so forth and shooby-dooby-dooby.

In short NOT black, NOT African-American certainly not ADOS.

Just pretending to be black so she can ride the DEI-affirmative action gravy train. A poser to be cast to the outer darkness.

The beauty of it is, it is actually true!

It also occurred to me that:

Kamala has never married, until and because she decided to run for president. She has never had children. She is famous for oral sex, not a peep about vaginal sex.

Her opponents need to start a rumor that she is not only not a black, she is not a woman.

Thinking on it, her husband does look a bit hinky. Maybe he gets off on chicks with dicks?

Doesn't need to be true, make her deny it. Perhaps a moderator at the debate can ask:

"Vice President Harris as you know, there are rumors that you are a male to female trans. Would you mind dropping your drawers for the audience so they can see the falsity of those rumors?"

"No?"

"Do you have something to hide? Like a penis maybe?"

Best vice-presidential debate ever.

John Henry


Drago said...

LLR-democratical Rich: "Trump is too old to be a president."

Your murderous New Soviet Democratical Cult missed, and Trump rose up to shout "Fight Fight Fight!".

Now you live with the results.

William50 said...

Joe Biden Says Only 'the Lord Almighty' Could Make Him Drop Out.

So what Dem now speaks for God?

Mason G said...

'The first party to retire its 80-year-old candidate is going to be the one who wins this election' ~ Nikki Haley

Only one party has (had?) an 80-year-old candidate.

planetgeo said...

The next battle will be crucial. Namely, whether Kamala's supporters (Clyburn and the Black Caucus) can fight off those trying to dump her (Pelosi, Newsom, etc.) and go to an open convention. Two key strategies to watch for: (1) can Kamala's team get Joe to actually step down now and immediately make her the first Black female President, and (2) can Kamala's lawyers keep the opposition from getting access to the funds already committed to "Biden-Harris".

In any event, if the anti-Kamala D forces succeed in dumping Kamala too, the blowback from black voters may be fatal no matter who they pick. I don't see any way they can back away from Harris.

Clyde said...

Cthulhu-Harris ‘24: Why Pick the Lesser of Two Evils?

The Vault Dweller said...

I'm surprised honestly. While I could see it happening earlier, and I have no doubt folks like Gavin Newsom, despite their public protestations otherwise, were positioning themselves publicly to be the new candidate, I figured after the assassination attempt no serious Democrat would want to run against Trump. The intelligentsia and the taste-makers in the Democrat party do not want Kamala to be the candidate so their very well could be a cold civil war in the party. Kamala has big problems as a candidate. It looks like she helped cover-up Joe's senility from the American people, not mention her general unfavorability outside that glaring fault.

Democrats are going to get beat up constantly about Joe Biden not resigning. How can be too senile to run adn serve another 4 years if he isn't already to senile to be President now?

I'm assuming Joe wants to stay on so he can issue himself, his family and close supporters plenary pardons after the election.

StoughtonSconnie said...

So if a party can just decide to ignore what happened in the primaries just because their candidate is looking like a sure loser, why have the primaries? And more importantly, why make taxpayers pay for those now apparently optional primaries?

Mason G said...

"The Republicans will release an avalanche of legal and political objections if a new candidate is selected."

If the Democrats are doing anything illegal, that should be addressed. Right?

Yancey Ward said...

He needs to resign the office, too. If you can't run for President because of infirmity, then you can't actually be President either.

The next week will determine whether or not Harris is the nominee. The same problem- someone other than Harris needs to declare as a candidate to give the delegates a choice other than "Other".

lonejustice said...

It will be interesting to see how quickly Trump and his campaign can pivot. So much of their strategy was focused on how terrible Biden is/was, not what specific policies Trump would try to implement if elected. The Democrats really had no choice but to force Biden out. This is their Hail Mary pass. It will give some Democrats hope, because, you know, we've all seen those football games where the receivers catch the Hail Mary pass, score the touchdown, and win the game. I hope the Dems don't win, but it will a fascinating thing to watch. We certainly live in interesting times.

William50 said...

Rich said...

'The first party to retire its 80-year-old candidate is going to be the one who wins this election' ~ Nikki Haley

---------

Why would anyone take advice from a woman who lost to none of the above?

Yancey Ward said...

The Republicans will do nothing to challenge this in court. There is nothing they can actually do since the nominee wasn't even going to be official until the convention anyway, so all the deadlines will be met correctly as long as the Democrats get that nominee by convention week.

Now if the Democrats can't agree on a candidate by the end of the convention then, yes, there might be court challenges.

Bill Crawford said...

Kennedy/Harris ticket

Darkisland said...

He says he believes "It is in the best interests of the country to stand down."

Fine so far. But he never tells us WHY it is in the best interests of the country. Is it because he can't do the job? Because he feels the clock ticking and may not be able to do the job next year? Because there is someone more qualified?(Who?)

WHY are you standing down, Joe.

Perhaps he will answer it in his speech but I rather doubt it. Seems like any answer he might give for standing down would question his ability to continue serving.

John Henry

Swede said...

Clearly it will be racist if Kamala isn't the Democrat candidate.
And if it's not her, they'll be reminded of it every day.

Shouting Thomas said...

Kennedy/Harris ticket

Would be a smart move by Dems. I’m not endorsing it.

I think there’s too much bad blood over RFK, Jr. opposing the Ukraine war and calling out the COVID vaccine catastrophe for the Dems to accept him.

But, he would probably beat Trump.

Darkisland said...

This was in another comment thread and I reposted here a few minutes ago. It did go up but then disappeared.

Anyway, another try:

If they do decide to replace kamala expect to see a lot of stories about how she is not black but Indian. Shots of her birth certificate showing the mother as "Caucasian" her father Jamaican. Her father's family owned slaves. She spent her formative years in Canada. Went to a "white" college. Married a Jewish white man.

And so on and so forth and shooby-dooby-dooby.

In short NOT black, NOT African-American certainly not ADOS.

Just pretending to be black so she can ride the DEI-affirmative action gravy train. A poser to be cast to the outer darkness.

The beauty of it is, it is actually true!

John Henry

Just an old country lawyer said...

Mezzrow said:

"As long as you don't think about the duck, you can have a marvelous time."

Thanks for this!

Darkisland said...

Clearly it will be racist if Kamala isn't the Democrat candidate.

Not if she is not a "black" woman.

Or even a woman.

John Henry

R C Belaire said...

Joe's biggest regret -- BY FAR -- will be that June 27th debate. Of course, his handlers probably gave him no choice in the matter.

Breezy said...

I’m disappointed in Joe. Sports teams don’t simply walk off the field when they’re losing. This looks like a forfeit to me.

MayBee said...

I hope someone has told Joe that he’s dropped out.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

Biden endorses Harris!

https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1815087772216303933

RAH said...

Who will be her VP pick? I think Wes Moore, my governor. Young , smart articulate. A young Obama, but not lazy. Blacks will flood to this ticket. This race just got harder for Trump. Harris herself is stupid and could be beat. Put her with Wes Moore becomes a harder race.

Breezy said...

Will the donors support Kamala?

Mason G said...

10 days ago...

President Joe Biden vigorously defended his fitness for office in a high-stakes press conference Thursday evening, fielding several questions about his age and calls for him to step aside.

"I think I’m the most qualified person to run for president," he said, adding that he believes he is the best candidate to beat former President Donald Trump in November. "I beat him once, and I will beat him again."

Biden defended himself on questions about his health and whether he could continue to work aggressively through another term.

Biden said he has taken three "significant and intense neurological exams," most recently in February, and would take another one only if his doctors recommend it. "They say I’m in good shape," he said.


So- what happened?

FWBuff said...

The writers of “Veep” were prophetic!

FullMoon said...

In acknowledging that he cannot win, Biden, and his party, admit their failed administrational
policies have disgusted the majority of Americans.

What a loser. Doesn't have the guts to go head-to-head with Trump.
Biden name will be a synonym for cowardice. The entire family will be mocked forever.
The illegitimate granddaughter is fortunate to not be a part of that family.

rehajm said...

So if a party can just decide to ignore what happened in the primaries just because their candidate is looking like a sure loser, why have the primaries

Several cycles ago a high ranking Republican operative very matter of factly answered this- it’s a dog and pony show for the voters. Nothing about battle readiness for the respective party candidates, but an opportunity to wake up your voters and try and get them interested in whatever you’re wheeling out there for them to ‘choose’. Since then nothing had intervened to make me think the fellow was wrong…

Darkisland said...

It's Kamala!

Per Gateway Pundit Biden posted this on X a few minutes ago.

“My fellow Democrats, I have decided not to accept the nomination and to focus all my energies on my duties as President for the remainder of my term. My very first decision as the party nominee in 2020 was to pick Kamala Harris as my Vice President. And it’s been the best decision I’ve made. Today I want to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala to be the nominee of our party this year. Democrats — it’s time to come together and beat Trump. Let’s do this.


So who will be VP? Not Newsom, he is constitutionally prohibited. How about Hunter?

John Henry

FullMoon said...

Seems as if Trump took Joey out behind the gym and whooped his ass.

Greg the Class Traitor said...

MayBee said...
I hope someone has told Joe that he’s dropped out.

Yeah, if you gave me 20:1 odds, I'd make a small bet that this is a coup.

Realistically, I see only two reasons why this would be done via two posts to Twitter, rather than video press conference

1: Joe is not mentally capable of doing the video
2: It's a coup, and Joe didn't actually agree

Anyone want to provide a reasonable third option? Sorry, but until you provide one, you don't get to accuse me of engaging in a kooky conspiracy theory

doctrev said...

RAH said...
Who will be her VP pick? I think Wes Moore, my governor. Young , smart articulate. A young Obama, but not lazy. Blacks will flood to this ticket. This race just got harder for Trump. Harris herself is stupid and could be beat. Put her with Wes Moore becomes a harder race.

7/21/24, 2:07 PM

No! Good God! JD Vance isn't actually moving lots of new votes to Trump. Even if there was a new Obama, who likely would have lost the 2016 election to Trump, Kamala Harris isn't going to put in someone who sounds more sober and intelligent than she does. Like a bright fifth grader.

R C Belaire said...

Dave Begley said...
China will attack Taiwan soon.

I'm with you here, and they more/less have until January 20th to get their s**t together.

Mason G said...

"Sorry, but until you provide one, you don't get to accuse me of engaging in a kooky conspiracy theory"

The time between "kooky conspiracy theory" and "everybody knows" has been decreasing at an increasing rate over the past few years.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

RAH said...

Who will be her VP pick?

Oh Hell, Hillary! Who else! It will put her one tragic suicide away from the Presidency!

Rich said...

Kamala Harris should ask JD Vance’s wife Usha to be her running mate.

dbp said...

It would have been smart for Biden to also resign. Harris would make history as the first female president and would be in a better position to win the nomination, even without the endorsement of Biden. Leaving the office in her hands is a better endorsement than the one he gave.

Darkisland said...

RAH,

Do you think the US is ready for an all black(ish) all Jamaican ticket?

Moore is the maternal grandson of Cuban and Jamaican immigrants. Nothing at all wrong with that except that he is not ADOS (American Descendant of Slavery) which may be an issue in the black community.

OTOH, neither was Obama or Kamala so maybe not.

John Henry

walter said...

DEI continues its assault.

wendybar said...

StoughtonSconnie said...
So if a party can just decide to ignore what happened in the primaries just because their candidate is looking like a sure loser, why have the primaries? And more importantly, why make taxpayers pay for those now apparently optional primaries?

7/21/24, 1:50 PM

THIS^^^^^

Narayanan said...

could Elon-bot have made up X-post of Joe Drop Out?

Narayanan said...

could Elon-bot have made up X-post of Joe Drop Out?

guitar joe said...

If Trump hadn't survived the assassination attempt, responding with defiance and providing a strong visual for his supporters and even for those, like me, who oppose him, I think Biden would have hung on to the bitter end. I wish Trump had responded to the news with more grace, but unless they choose someone with some charisma and likability (not, alas, Harris), he will probably still win.

Yancey Ward said...

I will now predict that Harris isn't the candidate either. She might have made it had Biden resigned the office, too, but him not resigning makes his endorsement worth a lot less.

Hillary's slow thighs are moving again.

walter said...

How many times and how recently has Mamala put Pedo Pete on a pedestal?

Clyde said...

He saw his shadow and now we have six months of lame duck.

RAH said...

RAH,

Do you think the US is ready for an all black(ish) all Jamaican ticket?

Moore is the maternal grandson of Cuban and Jamaican immigrants. Nothing at all wrong with that except that he is not ADOS (American Descendant of Slavery) which may be an issue in the black community.

OTOH, neither was Obama or Kamala so maybe not.

John Henry

I have him . He got Hogan to endorse him rather than the GOP candidate. He only has been office 6 month and he has run with a lot of bills that went through We have a Democrat majority in both houses of MD. From a GOP perspective he is a very dangerous candidate. Very good looking , has great resume, sharp, smart and articulate .He does not scare whites.

Blacks would trust him and feel they get a good representative. If this pick is chosen, all those black votes for Trump would disappear.

Yancey Ward said...

Harris won't save the Democrats if Biden truly couldn't win. The Democrats need to replace her, too, but I don't know that replacement might be that would run stronger other than Big Mike Obama.

Greg the Class Traitor said...

R C Belaire said...
Dave Begley said...
China will attack Taiwan soon.

I'm with you here, and they more/less have until January 20th to get their s**t together.


China faces a real problem:
The can NOT afford to have many soldiers die

Because their multiple generations of "one child policy" means that every dead male soldier leaves behind parents and grandparents who have completely lost their future.

And so have nothing to lose by attacking the CCP.

They are working on killer drones, to deal with this issue. But unless they have some major breakthrough that they've kept hidden, they're not going to be able to go to war with drones before Jan 20.

So I predict they won't be attacking Taiwan.

Mikey NTH said...

Clyde: I think it would be "lamer duck".

Wow. I didn't think his ambition could actually could be cowed. Egg on my face right there.

Original Mike said...

"Hillary's slow thighs are moving again."

Every potential candidate better get their security details beefed up.

Narayanan said...

is Trump now Dog-Caught-Car

The rule of Lemnity said...

Kudos to Althouse for being early and correct.

The rule of Lemnity said...

The version of things that people get right is the version of things I want to pay attention to. I’ll give myself half a kudos, or is that the square root of a kudo, for paying attention to someone who got it right.

You know how fortunate that is today?

Swede said...

The Democrats had to kill democracy in order to save it, I guess.

Saint Croix said...

short list of people who might enter the octagon against the Cackler

Hillary Clinton
JB Pritzker
Gavin Newsom

We'll see!

Saint Croix said...

Theoretically Barack could call 3,896 people and ask them if they would support Michelle's candidacy.

FullMoon said...

So,any mention of Joe's covid? All gone?
Maybe the covid has affected his thinking and he will change his mind once he recovers.

james said...

In an ironic twist of fate, after the party big wigs all endorse Kamala later this week, she will flip the script and announce that Joe Biden is her running mate. To ensure that her party does not scheme to have her removed from office in the unlikely event she beat Trump.

Temujin said...

His has been the most deceitful campaign and Presidency in the history of the United States. Millions, tens, if not hundreds of millions of people knew in 2020 that Joe was not able to fully do his duties. His staff knew it- which is why the campaign kept him under a lid day after day. He was in the 'basement'. The press knew it, and covered for him. And yet, somehow, Donald Trump received more votes than an incumbent President had ever received and still managed to lose to a guy who barely even campaigned?

The shock and horror on display by Democrats and their news divisions is the shock of getting caught. The debate tore the cover off of all of it- once and for all. Just days earlier we were all called various names for sharing videos of Joe trying to find his way off of a stage, or onto a set of stairs, or just across the lawn. We were derided for replaying his weird mumbles and shouting, his falling asleep next to foreign leaders, his being handled by other leaders as you would a 4 year old in a crowd.

They are shocked at being caught. And now...now that they rigged the Democratic Primary to make sure Joe ran unopposed, they're looking for a redo. They now look at this as an attempt to clear the deck, and redo their entire campaign. A mulligan for the Democrats.

They cannot win elections on ideas. But they can arrange and rearrange things until they get the outcome they desire.

In the meantime, look at what Biden and his feckless team did to America and the world over the past 4 years.

Biff said...

Greg the Class Traitor said..."Joe is not mentally capable of doing the video"

In a similar vein, I think that it was curtains for Joe as soon as people in his inner circle started imagining what his acceptance speech at the convention would look like.

JK Brown said...

Should we take note that Biden scooped the NY Times with a post on Elon Musk's X. He didn't even favor Tik Tok.

If were activist protestors frustrated at being shunted out of the media for the RNC due to the recency of the assassination attempt, would you not be motivated to double down in Chicago in a month. Not to mention, Scott Adams related a story of a 20-something in his orbit who hated Biden for his support of Israel but was ignorant that Trump was a bigger supporter.

In any case, oldsters were looking forward to a nostalgic repeat of the '68 Chicago DNC.

RMc said...

Donald Trump received more votes than an incumbent President had ever received and still managed to lose to a guy who barely even campaigned?

Joe Biden managed to disprove the adage, "You can't beat somebody with nobody."

rhhardin said...

I favor the guy who steals women's luggage at airports, in support of the LGBTQ+ community.

The dems are going to lose anyway, at least I hope so. Vote counting aside.

rhhardin said...

Sane volema kara rara kamelo venas.: "A healthily wishful dear rare camel is coming."

Esperanto palindrome.

Greg the Class Traitor said...

Yancey Ward said...
Harris won't save the Democrats if Biden truly couldn't win. The Democrats need to replace her, too, but I don't know that replacement might be that would run stronger other than Big Mike Obama.

I believe the Dems have accepted that they're going to lose this year, and are at this point just trying to keep it from being a tsunami.

I also believe that whoever loses to Trump in 2024 will never get another chance to be the Dem nominee.

So I don't believe that anyone serious will try to push Kamala off the perch.

YoungHegelian said...

Are you seriously going to tell me that a politician of Joe Biden's generation made such a momentous announcement as this on Twitter? Are you kidding me? That he didn't pick up the phone and call one of his favorite reporters with one of the biggest stories in American political history? Joe Scarborough must be going "WTF!".

Joe Biden didn't do this. Biden didn't do something like this with Hunter out of town in L.A. This was a palace coup. This was done to Joe Biden by a cabal of Democratic insiders who got a WH staffer with access to his Twitter account to send out the bat signal.

It's good that the Democrats don't practice voter suppression, election denial, and want to keep big money out of politics, unlike those goddamn Republicans! /sarc

Paul said...

Kamala speaks...

"I know President Biden's decision not to run was a brave decision. We are all faced with decisions that need to be decided for deciding decisions is part of life we need to decide. Decisions are not taken lightly as they are heavy and must be decided. And that is why we now must look to the future to decide our path using wise decisions to decide. So vote and make decisions, that is true democracy!"

Aggie said...

It would be characteristic of the GOPe, the Chamber of Commerce, country club Republicans, to propose a vigorous assault on Biden's remaining term, with calls to 'step down'. Trump needs to stamp these cockroaches quickly, and publicly. If Republicans haven't full-throatedly come out in support of the Trump agenda going forward, then their true colors are flying as their plan for the next 4 years.

Every single person on Capitol Hill has known for more than 4 years that Biden isn't capable of running his administration, and they've been silent in their acceptance that some un-elected group is, instead. Trying this kind of farce on, at this point, is simply designed to spin out the energy that is fueling the Trump campaign.

Robert Marshall said...

J B Pritzker, Illinois Governor!

What an inspired choice he'd be. More chins than you can count, and his and his family's devotion to the Trans ideology is total.

His cousin "Jennifer" (fka "Col. James Pritzker" (US Army retired) and father of three) is the only known Trans billionaire, and the Pritzker family's wealth (Hyatt Hotel heirs) is being shoveled into support for that very weird idea.

Is it dead-naming to call the Colonel a "father," or should we use the term "mother" instead? Maybe, "retroactive mother"? (Asking for a friend.)

Leland said...

What’s the over/under on Kamala dropping out? What down ticket race does she protect that Biden couldn’t?

n.n said...

Take a knee for Harris? Democrats just gained the Slut Walk vote, and lost the women's vote.

Drago said...

n.n: "Take a knee for Harris?"

Turnabout is fair play.

Drago said...

Leland: "What’s the over/under on Kamala dropping out? What down ticket race does she protect that Biden couldn’t?"

Rumor has it Michelle O is running point for Kamala so any other considerations are totally moot.

chickelit said...

Good Riddance!

Dixcus said...

Althouse wrote: "[Biden's the only one who ever picked [Kamala]."

Er ... Willie Brown picked her.

n.n said...

His cousin "Jennifer" (fka "Col. James Pritzker" (US Army retired) and father of three) is the only known Trans billionaire

Homosexual? Homosexual with a heterosexual fetish? Or Levine's Dreams of Herr Mengele?

MadTownGuy said...

Biden's Supreme Court Plan a 'Banana Republic Tactic,' Ex-Thomas Clerk Says

What a surprise....

Smilin' Jack said...

Biden only picked Kamala because she is Black and female. The ratchet only turns one way. She can only be replaced by someone Blacker and/or femaler, i.e. Michelle.

H said...

Posting on X.com. MJtruthultra, citing the Heritage Oversight Project, claims that Biden cannot be replaced on the Wisconsin ballot unless he dies. Does anyone know if that's true? If he stays on the Wisconsin ballot and wins the state, will the electoral college show Wisconsin for Biden, not Harris?

Tom T. said...

Obama declined to endorse Harris today.

Saint Croix said...

Wow!

Kamala is trying to lock down endorsements.

Joe Biden endorses her.

Hillary and Bill endorse her.

Mark Kelly endorses her.

Gretchen Whitmer endorses her.

Obama does not!

Also, Gavin Newsom has not.

Obama wants an open primary.

Chaos! Obama chaos!

Obama and Obama and Pelosi tag-team vs The Cackler, the Clintons, and Walking Dead. In the Octagon in Chicago.

Jess said...

It would be nice to know this isn't all just like a play. Unfortunately, it's not, and the players are paid by those that produce the show.

Saint Croix said...
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Lawnerd said...

Just rewatched Tulsi’s takedown of Kamala during the 2020 democrat primary debates. Trump just needs to run adds replaying that over and over.

Saint Croix said...

I was wrong, Whitmer has not endorsed Kamala.

NYT talks to four governors.

Newsom
Whitmer
Shapiro
Pritzker

I think Obama's move makes it likely that one or more of these people will run for the White House. Pritzker is most likely as he can self-fund. Newsom is being shut out as we speak as the Democrat party in California is trying to get all their delegates to pledge to Harris.

Christopher B said...

Well, I didn't think he would do it but he did.

It is what I expected though, that he drops out of the race but doesn't resign.

Every single Democrat that vouched for his fitness needs to be hammered on this 24/7, as well as why Potatohead can't run a campaign but can run the country.

Starting with Kamala Harris.

Greg the Class Traitor said...

Saint Croix said...
I was wrong, Whitmer has not endorsed Kamala.

A woman posted on Twitter that Whitmer clearly isn't running, because she released a statement where her roots need to be dyed (and, my own note: her clothes looked like crap).

Being associated with a fair number of high-powered women, I agree with that women's assessment. If Whitmer were planning on running, she would have looked much better

Narayanan said...

Kamala later this week, she will flip the script and announce that Joe Biden is her running mate ...
===============
and make him border-czar

Greg the Class Traitor said...

Aggie said...
It would be characteristic of the GOPe, the Chamber of Commerce, country club Republicans, to propose a vigorous assault on Biden's remaining term, with calls to 'step down'.

Aggie, you need to pull your head out of your a$$

The Trump Campaign is, and has been, leading the charge to demand that Biden stop being President if/since he's stopped running for office.

Twitter is freely available. For example:

https://x.com/JDVance1/status/1815020646520230262
If Joe Biden ends his reelection campaign, how can he justify remaining President?

Not running for reelection would be a clear admission that President Trump was right all along about Biden not being mentally fit enough to serve as Commander-in-Chief.

There is no middle ground.

GingerBeer said...

My money is on Frank Lautenberg to replace Joe on the D ticket. First, it's worked before. Two, he'd be nearly as easy to control as Biden.

BUMBLE BEE said...

Jared Moskowitz (D)FLA called Kamala "African American".
If you can believe she's African American, then you can also believe she's qualified to be president of America. Dem convention theme suggestion...
Lovin Spoonful, "Do You Believe In Magic".

Lloyd W. Robertson said...

OK, having not endorsed Kamala in his big letter--barely mentioning her--he then posts a tweet endorsing her. Who knows who actually wrote once. Did Kamala go nuts at not being endorsed?

And now: Obama looks forward to an open, competitive convention, with a number of candidates. No endorsement of Kamala, no mention of her. Maybe there was a deal that Kamala could deploy congressional leaders and invoke the 25th Amendment unless Joe announced he was not running. It looks like Obama would not want Kamala to actually take over, and enjoy the advantage of incumbency in the Dem nomination campaign. But then they are leaving a person with severe dementia with his finger on the button, taking 3 a.m. calls.

Greg the Class Traitor said...

Margot Cleveland wrote this on Twitter:
Democrats are selling Kamala Harris as the perfect combination of Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and Joe Biden: not quite as smart as Joe, not quite as likable as Hillary, and not quite as humble as Barack.

Rich said...

The only thing that could hurt Trump more than losing to Biden is losing to Harris.

Old and slow said...

Shapiro would be their best candidate, but they cannot replace a female POC with a Jew. Next best would be Whitmer, and she is no prize...

Old and slow said...

Rich said...
The only thing that could hurt Trump more... .

Why is this consideration even of any interest to you? This is not a popularity contest or a personal grudge match (OK, I know that for many it is...). It is about picking a president whose goals and policies you support. I support Trump as a candidate because he is the best person on offer. I don't give a toss about his feelings one way or the other.

Paul said...

David Farragut: “Damn the torpedoes! Jouett, full speed! Four bells, Captain Drayton!”

Patrick Henry: "Give me liberty or give me death!"

Kennedy: "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country."

Kamala Harris: "The governor and I, we were all doing a tour of the library here and talking about the significance of the passage of time, right, the significance of the passage of time. So, when you think about it, there is great significance to the passage of time in terms of what we need to do to lay these wires. What we need to do to create these jobs. And there is such great significance to the passage of time when we think about a day in the life of our children."

StoughtonSconnie said...

The argument being made by Republicans that Biden needs to resign the Presidency is a rare politically astute move by the pachyderm party. It, probably inadvertently, puts the Dems in a dilemma. Anyone with eyes, ears and two brain cells to rub together can see that Biden hasn’t been playing with a full deck for some time. If he resigns, Dems and the media (sorry for the repetition) have to admit they knew it. But if they hold to the lie that he’s just fine and can take care of the country, then this is just a purely political calculation, not worthy of accolades by anyone not primarily focused on party Uber alles. And in that case, I return to my previous question, why did we taxpayers have to pay for a faux primary? Where do I sign up for the class action suit against the Democrat party for repayment of my tax dollars?

Mason G said...

"Where do I sign up for the class action suit against the Democrat party for repayment of my tax dollars?"

When it comes to voting, nobody has standing to object to whatever has been done.

See: Presidential election, 2020.

Achilles said...

Rich said...

Trump is too old to be a president.

Remember on June 26th Rich and the entire Democrat establishment claimed that Joe Biden was as sharp as ever and absolutely in control. They even claimed Biden was smarter and more mentally active than Trump.

History does not even go back one month for these people.

Everyone is laughing at you Rich.

You are such a pathetic joke.

Nothing is going to change or get better for you until you accept this.

imTay said...

Country A has a province that is universally recognized as belonging to it. The province wants independence and tries to secede and Country A moves in to prevent it, but Country B, a large military power, moves in to help the province.

Is Country A China or Ukraine, and is the province Taiwan or Donbas?

Show your work.

fairmarketvalue said...

lonejustice said: "It will be interesting to see how quickly Trump and his campaign can pivot. So much of their strategy was focused on how terrible Biden is/was, not what specific policies Trump would try to implement if elected. The Democrats really had no choice but to force Biden out. This is their Hail Mary pass. It will give some Democrats hope, because, you know, we've all seen those football games where the receivers catch the Hail Mary pass, score the touchdown, and win the game. I hope the Dems don't win, but it will a fascinating thing to watch. We certainly live in interesting times."

Coincidentally, lonejustice posted the same comment in a later thread, word-for-fucking-word. Is lonejustice just a Chuck sock puppet, in his cups from some cheap fortified box wine, or does he (she?) display an alarming level of dementia? Perhaps both?

Aggie said...

@Greg the Class Traitor - suggest perhaps you drop 'class' from your sobriquet, in the interest of truth in advertising.

Biden's faculties aside, any idiot could easily defend why they might be good for a few months but not for four more years, in office. It's just stupidity to waste Congressional campaign energy to go after such a meager and senseless goal, when it's obvious that anyone on the fence towards Republicans will simply conclude they're beating up on an old guy with dementia, who's leaving anyhow. Why not figure out how to win both sides of Congress instead, and tell us how they're going to balance the budget? Why not show us your ideas? Or is hitting the easy pitches and moaning about how bad it is the only trick in the repertoire?

Keeping the pressure on Joe, with the Zero-cost Twitter trash talk, is different from the House lining up its schedule and bringing all of its energy to bear on the 25th Amendment with much pomp and circumstance (meaningless noise, signifying... nothing).

Stay classy.....

SteveWe said...

Greg the Class Traitor said...

I believe the Dems have accepted that they're going to lose this year, and are at this point just trying to keep it from being a tsunami.
I also believe that whoever loses to Trump in 2024 will never get another chance to be the Dem nominee.
So I don't believe that anyone serious will try to push Kamala off the perch.
7/21/24, 3:14 PM


I very much agree.

fairmarketvalue said...

Smilin' Jack said: "Biden only picked Kamala because she is Black and female. The ratchet only turns one way. She can only be replaced by someone Blacker and/or femaler, i.e. Michelle."

Um.., are you sure Michelle is "femaler" than Kammy?

Achilles said...

Greg the Class Traitor said...

MayBee said...
I hope someone has told Joe that he’s dropped out.

Yeah, if you gave me 20:1 odds, I'd make a small bet that this is a coup.

Realistically, I see only two reasons why this would be done via two posts to Twitter, rather than video press conference

1: Joe is not mentally capable of doing the video
2: It's a coup, and Joe didn't actually agree

Anyone want to provide a reasonable third option? Sorry, but until you provide one, you don't get to accuse me of engaging in a kooky conspiracy theory


This is not going well for the democrats.

If Joe does not have a reasonably long announcement address and just disappears then the Democrat party will likely not survive much longer.

He is also going to have to resign from the presidency at some point soon.

This will be too much even for the flatworms that are currently the only regime supporters left.

Dan from Madison said...

@Achilles - I just mentioned to my wife that there is a big chance that the fake covid was actually something larger like a stroke or something like that, and that he may not even know he's out at this point.

Greg the Class Traitor said...

Aggie said...
@Greg the Class Traitor - suggest perhaps you drop 'class' from your sobriquet, in the interest of truth in advertising.
Biden's faculties aside, any idiot could easily defend why they might be good for a few months but not for four more years, in office.


https://x.com/JesseBWatters/status/1815151368572711292

Here's video of Trump and Vance, together at an interview, calling for Biden to be removed from office.

Vance brings up teh 25th Amendment.

Joe Biden is not mentally competent to be the President of the United States of America. It is a massive threat to our safety for him to be responsible for the keys controlling launch of US nuclear weapons, to mention just one issue

He needs to be removed from Office.

And no, the GOP controlled House does NOT need to approve a replacement VP once he's gone.

Dr.Bunkypotatohead said...

"It is a profound honor to serve as his Vice President, and I am deeply grateful to the President, Dr. Biden, and the entire Biden family. I first came to know President Biden through his son Beau. We were friends from our days working together as Attorneys General of our home states. As we worked together, Beau would tell me stories about his Dad. The kind of father—and the kind of man—he was. And the qualities Beau revered in his father are the same qualities, the same values, I have seen every single day in Joes leadership as President: His honesty and integrity. His big heart and commitment to his faith and his family. And his love of our country and the American people."

Jesus! Even Harris is dragging out her Beau Biden stories!

Greg the Class Traitor said...

imTay said...
Country A has a province that is universally recognized as belonging to it. The province wants independence and tries to secede and Country A moves in to prevent it, but Country B, a large military power, moves in to help the province.

Is Country A China or Ukraine, and is the province Taiwan or Donbas?


1994 Budapest Accords: Russia agreed that Donbas was part of Ukraine, in exchange for Ukraine giving up their nuclear weapons.

Note: the hard part of nukes is getting the Plutonium / U 235. Given that they had that, Ukraine could easily have built new nukes to use the material.


There's no similar agreement by anyone that Taiwan is part of China.

Any other questions I can help you with?

imTay said...

The US recognizes “one China.” Name some countries with Taiwanese embassies. Even the newly elected leader of Taiwan claims that he is head of the legitimate government of all of China. If you don’t understand that, I am not sure what the point of discussing Budapest is.

imTay said...

Also, now do the US invasion of Syria and its occupation of Syrian oil fields and grain producing regions. Explain how it’s different than what Russia is doing, besides that both Taiwan and Syria are thousands of miles from our borders and don’t affect our national security.

Drago said...

fairmarketvalue: "Coincidentally, lonejustice posted the same comment in a later thread, word-for-fucking-word. Is lonejustice just a Chuck sock puppet, in his cups from some cheap fortified box wine, or does he (she?) display an alarming level of dementia? Perhaps both"

LLR-democratical Chuck drug both lonejustice and Rich onto Althouse as co-faux conservative posters who simply repeat democratical talking points over and over again as supposed attacks from "teh "muh principles" right".

It was transparent given their hilariously over the top and cringe-inducing callouts to each other!

Thats why these self-declared "lifelong republicans" (LLR) but actually democraticals were lumped together for reference purposes as the Althouse Blog LLR-democratical Brigade!

Saint Croix said...

Newsom is out, he's endorsed Harris.

Achilles said...

Dan from Madison said...

@Achilles - I just mentioned to my wife that there is a big chance that the fake covid was actually something larger like a stroke or something like that, and that he may not even know he's out at this point.

I am just going to say it out loud.

I think sometime after the debate they started double dosing Joe with Warfarin or one of the other blood thinners and just let nature take it's course.

I think it is just as likely we never see Joe Biden speak in public again as it is that he comes out and announces formally he is out.

He looked pretty done the last couple times we saw him from a distance.

Soon it will be bad form to talk about the recently fallen into a coma Joe Biden.

How dare you criticize this nice old man who fell ill!

Achilles said...

imTay said...

Also, now do the US invasion of Syria and its occupation of Syrian oil fields and grain producing regions. Explain how it’s different than what Russia is doing, besides that both Taiwan and Syria are thousands of miles from our borders and don’t affect our national security.

Taiwan affects everyone's national security.

They produce over 90% of the top level chips.

Computers go back several years if not a decade if you lose access to the chips produced in Taiwan.

Saint Croix said...

Shapiro has also endorsed Harris; he's out.

walter said...

Can Kammy ride a bike?

Cameron said...

"Blogger walter said...
Can Kammy ride a bike?"

Kammy is the bike

walter said...

Touche

Rusty said...

"Down goes Frazier! Down goes Frazier!"
(couldn't help myself.)

Greg the Class Traitor said...

imTay said...
The US recognizes “one China.” Name some countries with Taiwanese embassies. Even the newly elected leader of Taiwan claims that he is head of the legitimate government of all of China. If you don’t understand that, I am not sure what the point of discussing Budapest is.

Well, for you the point is running away from Budapest, because it completely destroys your position, and exposes you as a worthless piece of sh!t.

Name some countries with Taiwanese embassies
Name some significant countries that refuse to do business with Taiwan because it's a "rebel province".

The US agrees that the CCP control China. The US has never signed any sort of treaty claiming that the CCP are the rightful rules of Taiwan.

Again, I provided you with a treaty, freely signed by both Russia and Ukraine, where each side gave up things of value in exchange for other things of value:
Ukraine gave up a large supply of weapons grade U235 and / or Plutonium, in exchange for agreement as to what their borders are.
Russia gave up ANY claim, for all time, on ANY part of Ukraine, including the Crimea and Donblas, in exchange for Ukraine giving up the ability to nuke Russia, and nuke Moscow, if there was a conflict over the border.

If you're not a complete fucking moron, you think that agreement was a great idea, and you demand it be enforced, in full.

If, OTOH, you want every gov't on Earth to to consider it a matter of vital interest to have nukes, since that's clearly the only way to keep your borders secure, and if you want the "terrorists ending up with their hands on nukes" that will inevitably result from such a situation, then you support Putin's invasion of Ukraine.

Your position is complete shit.

Greg the Class Traitor said...

imTay said...
Also, now do the US invasion of Syria and its occupation of Syrian oil fields and grain producing regions. Explain how it’s different than what Russia is doing, besides that both Taiwan and Syria are thousands of miles from our borders and don’t affect our national security.

1: I have no requirement to defend ANYTHING done by the Obama Admin
2: Please do detail, with links, the oil and grain the US stole from Syria during our "occupation of Syrian oil fields and grain producing regions."
3: IIRC, the thugs running Syria were in the process of using WMD against the civilian population in those regions when the US invaded. Yes, no?
4: Could you tell us all about the colonies the US planted in Syria to control the region once we conquered it?

IOW, do you have ANYTHING to support a claim of "US imperialism in Syria"? Or are you just really bitter that, even under Obama, the US military is / was far more competent than the Russia one?