Said Marjorie Taylor Greene, quoted in "GOP chair reprimands Greene for refusing to call Fauci 'doctor'" (The Hill).
Contemplate the power that flows from the embrace of negative attention. It has worked for Trump, and Marjorie Taylor Greene has apparently decided to excel in this mode.
The givers of negative attention might want to rethink what they are doing. I will, once again, quote my mother on this subject: You'll only encourage them.
Also, I'm reminded of Barbara Boxer in her "I worked so hard" mode:
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Progressives had no problem that corrupt Judge Merchan called President Trump, Mr. Trump. So Progressives, spare me the tears.
I love how Marge puts them in their place where they start drooling because she pissed them off so bad. Fauci deserves everything that is being said about him.
I'd call him a fraud. He should be called a fraud.
But the democrat-soviets insist you worship him and his deadly jabs, and his manufactured false narratives. One of many being the "wet market" BS.
Reminder Fauci and his team wrote the expert lies that buttressed the lies. Like everything on the corrupt left - it's an insiders game.... for profit and power.
Trump is making a joke. This idiot is serious.
Titles are required to be used in Congressional debate?
GOP chair does what?
This from the Party of Pelosi - who ripped up Trump's state of the union speech.
Greene is an embarrassment who undermines the serious work that needs to be done to save the country. Her behavior benefits the Left.
Fauci is asking for sympathy because he receives death threats. While I don't condone it, it's hard for me to generate much sympathy. Bastard.
nevertheless, she persisted
She’s one of the absolute few in congress that takes any of this seriously asswipe.
Sometimes the true defenders of the constitution can rock a bikini like nobody’s business. Murica you “conservative” pussies.
MTG was elected with the support of the people in her district. Let's posit that there's a DA in her district with views similar to hers. Let's further suppose that that DA presents evidence of Fauci's wrongdoing before a grand jury of the people of that district and then indicts and tries him before a jury composed of people chosen from that district. If, under such circumstances, Fauci was found guilty, do you think the Democrats would view that conviction as a triumph of justice and fairness.
Corrupt Judge Merchan refused to refer to Trump as President Trump. He would revert to "Mr. Trump." Are we required to call him "judge"?
Dr. Joseph Mengela was a doctor. So was Dr. Frankenstein, as is Dr. Jill Biden, and shitload of dumbass Phds. Too much exposure and consumption of these types of doctors is not a good for your physical, mental, or intellectual health. Like too much Dr. Pepper.
"Dr." doesn't carry the weight it once did. Call the asshole "Doctor".
It's like "Ms." It's so yesterday.
I wonder whether Greene is aware that Trump supported and even awarded Fauci with a Presidential Commendation for his work in fighting Covid.
lonejustice - So are you anti-Fauci now?
You're a loyal leftist. You certainly are a Fauci supporter. Right?
Lonejustice.
So are you a Fauci supporter? or not?
Lonejustice.
Do YOU support Fauci?
The MTG doesn't know how to do the DJT. Trump is an expert at ball-busting, the fine art of deflating egos without excessive animus, a much-admired skill among native Gothamites. The ball-buster walks a fine line between acrimony and accord. Folks in Georgia are seldom that subtle. I suppose it has to do with space, or the lack of same. In a place as crowded as New York City, a man must contend and coexist. Whereas the 14th Congressional District of Georgia covers well over 3,000 square miles; you need not live next door to an obnoxious bastard if you don't wanna.
Lonejustice.
Do you support Fauci?
btw - my posts keep disappearing. Why?
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Sigh.
There's a lot of contempt being thrown about these days, with the impact of bricks at a struggle session during the cultural revolution. I have a lot of friends who hate Trump with every atom of their being. This gives Trump and his people the strength they needs to go on, because it is fuel to them. I have a lot of friends who hate Fauci with every atom of their being, holding him responsible for the deaths of people they love. I see no circumstance where both of these sides will write the history that comes from this. Fauci has the people with the words and the institutional power on his side. They will maintain this status quo as long as they can.
To defeat Trump and his followers electorally, they will have to forgive them and try to understand them first before they can drain any of Trump's power over his people by appealing to their common humanity. I don't think this can or will happen, and their fear of the proles and their champion is the main thing that will propel Trump to victory should that come about. The haters will find the deficiencies of the Trump team to be the reason for their hatred (there are many, tbh), but if they would seek their own deficiencies just a trace they would find much less to fear and loathe in these "lesser beings", and much more in common with them. The "lesser beings" grab the contempt, double the dose, and chuck it right back at the people who insulted their intelligence and their faith. We are witnessing a class war under false pretenses, with no possibility of forgiveness or compromise.
We used to live in a nation that sought a degree of compromise in its politics, but this time we see the need to annihilate rise higher than the need to compromise. I have just about conceded to myself that this will not end until one side or the other has truly been annihilated. Do I have to say that I find this terrifying no matter the identity of the victor? This is not a function of democracy, so don't expect to see very much democracy or rule of law over the next few months, no matter what you are being told. The annihilation will either succeed or fail. We will live in the ruins.
It didn't have to be this way.
For people in love with their titles - True respect can only be given; never demanded.
I always thought the perfect response to "Don't call me Ma'am" would have been, "As you wish, Miz Boxer".
To those offended by non-use of "titles", I'm reminded that the once-great (or, at least, good) Economist Magazine referred to all luminaries simply as, "Mister".
So once again, as they did when Hillary was up there, the Republicans spend their time giving speeches and berating the witness rather than doing what effective hearings do, which is to make the witness answer questions, hopefully in an incriminating way if the questioner is skillful. The Trumpist members would rather grandstand than actually get something done.
Used to be when they, left and right, didn’t want us to pay attention to the reprehensible shit they are doing they would drop flag burning into the news feed. Now it’s stupid shit like this…
…but yes, you should be calling one of the world’s leading bio-terror researchers ‘Dr’ when he’s dodging questions in public session.
Mark - that is one clip.
All sorts of questions were asked.
I'm all for a good dressing down of the little tyrant in a white coat, but without action it's nothing more than rage, making it easier to ignore. The MTG's of Congress seem more interested in attention than results.
Fauci reminds me of the old joke about the ambitious kid with a speech impediment, who determined to confront his handicap head on and earn some money in the process.
So he buys some bags of chips and sets up a little stand on the street corner, with a sign reading "FREE! Chips and Dip FREE!"
The first passerby stops and asks, "Free chips and dip?"
"Dodally fwee!"
"OK, I'll try some . . . wait, what the fuck? This tastes like shit!"
"It ITH thit! Would you like to buy a doothbruth?"
Her best line was "You should be in prison." Showing the baby Beagles being tortured under Fauci's supervision was a powerful message too. Why must our government torture animals in furtherance of developing mass casualty bioweapons? Would COVID have been so dangerous if not for Fauci's interference in its DNA?
He was supposed to study infectious diseases, not create them. Shut down as many of the Government Grant abusers as we can. The bureaucracy has outgrown its usefulness. Vivek would be a good appointee for that purpose.
Mark said...
So once again, as they did when Hillary was up there, the Republicans spend their time giving speeches and berating the witness rather than doing what effective hearings do, which is to make the witness answer questions, hopefully in an incriminating way if the questioner is skillful. The Trumpist members would rather grandstand than actually get something done.
6/4/24, 9:39 AM
You must sleep through the show hearings the Democrats put on. Is this a first time noticing things like this or were you born yesterday??
"I wonder whether Greene is aware that Trump supported and even awarded Fauci with a Presidential Commendation for his work in fighting Covid."
I imagine that was before we all knew Fauci's role in creating the virus.
Barbara Boxer is/was repugnant.
I recall when she was giving Condi a hard time at Condi's SOS confirmation hearings. I loved when Andrew Young showed up and said it was time to wrap up and vote. BB shut up quickly.
MTG - I am not a fan, but she wins elections. I have worked with many folks in MTG's area that would be better R reps than her, IMO.
lonejustice said...
"I wonder whether Greene is aware that Trump supported and even awarded Fauci with a Presidential Commendation for his work in fighting Covid."
I wonder whether you're aware that we all took what the CDC and Fauci told us seriously because they were supposed to a bastion of objective scientific fact. Turns out they were just as full of shit and power hungery as any other DC apparatchic. The downside of this is that the next time they cry "wolf" the answer is going to be, "Oh, yeah? Prove it."
Blogger Original Mike said...
I imagine that was before we all knew Fauci's role in creating the virus.
It is a point of pride for some to never change their mind despite new information. Others see it as an inability to learn.
National treasure (not Fauci)...
The only people who insist others call them by whatever title they have on a piece of paper are of the same as those that insist on pronouns. Their objective is coercing others into recognizing them as 'above' and superior. F'k'm, they aren't.
My ex's father had three gddmn phd's and never once insisted anyone call him doctor.
At a party once talking with a small group of guys about the cool cars we've owned (1968 bent glass Barraccuda). I called 'John' by 'John' and he said "That's Dr Whatever."
Me: "Fuck you. We're talking about cars. When we talk about gynecology, I'll call you Dr."
"It is a point of pride for some to never change their mind despite new information. Others see it as an inability to learn."
I think refusal to learn is closer to the truth.
Page 15 of the Lefty Playbook reads, "Whenever you are caught doing something outrageous, claim death threats from right wingers."
I don't have a problem with using Dr. Fauci's title. My problem is why isn't he in jail? Seven million deaths.
Mark said...So once again...
Schiff Schumer AOC Waters what? What were you saying?
Rusty:
The downside of this is that the next time they cry "wolf" the answer is going to be, "Oh, yeah? Prove it."
Not a downside. Should be done in all circumstances. Had it been done, the world would be in better condition.
Fauci deserves the death penalty- that is the truth of of the matter. Oh, excuse me, Dr. Fauci deserves the death penalty.
"btw - my posts keep disappearing. Why?"
April Apple, I mentioned this the other day- some of my comments disappear and then reappear and some never reappear. Yesterday, I started having problem with them appearing at all even though moderation was turned off. I fixed the problem by clicking the "I am not a Robot" box before hitting "publish". You might try that- it doesn't ask you to do anything extra like it used to, but every comment I have published since yesterday afternoon has gone through as normal.
If I were the state AG of any state in the U.S. I would be seriously looking at indicting people like Ralph Baric, Peter Daszak, Anthony Fauci etal. for conspiracy to create this virus in a lab and allowing to leak. I would charge all them with negligent homicide for how ever many counts of COVID deaths occurred in the state. That is the only way to shake loose the details at this point.
You know what's weird? Nowhere in all of the examinations, investigations, and debriefings of the COVID pandemic, nowhere in all this analysis is the profit motive examined, and its imperative applied to the timeline of events to see if it all fits together. Any discussions about profit motives, conferred indemnities from future liabilities, royalties, all of that - when the topic is raised, the subject gets changed. Odd, that.
I never got the shot, but I fully accept that this therapeutic (not vaccine) saved quite a few lives that otherwise may have been lost because of comorbidities or other precarities. But the size and extent of the public policy malfeasances and transgressions far overshadow the effect of the pandemic, in my opinion, and the energy being poured into stalling investigation seems to confirm this implicitly.
Baghdad Barbara Boxer had her day. Thankfully it's over. And Marjorie Taylor Greene will pass as well.
Boxer was using her power as senator to bully and humiliate a general. Greene is articulating the anger that American citizens righteously feel. There's a big difference between a bully feeling insufficiently feared, and a person standing up for the people she represents.
Heh. While reading the quote, I thought, "Who is saying this? Did Fauci do a town hall? Why would he do that?" Should have guessed.
I'm liking her more an more each day.
I sent her $100 last week. To the PO Box. NOT to ActRed.
I also send the outlaw $300. Again, direct to the campaign, NOT to ActRed.
John Henry
George Washington was an insurrectionist
Donald Trump unsed to be "President Trump"
As a former president, he is now "President Emeritus Trump"
If he gets elected again, will he be "President, President, Trump" Akin to the way a German with 2 doctorates is called "Doctor, Doctor, Schmidt"
John Henry
Thomas Jefferson was a traitor
Senator Boxer showed her ass, to use a military phrase, when she objected to the absolutely proper formal address a military man used to her, denoting thereby that she was his superior in rank. He also called male Senators "Sir" and none objected to that. Military friends of mine at the time got a sensible chuckle out of it, as yet another proof of civilian ignorance about the military, and went on with their lives even more convinced that civilians are pig ignorant and poorly trained as humans.
Normal air has a CO2 concentration of 0.04%.
Much of the air we breathe out gets trapped in the face mask (N-95s are words) and rebreathed. When wearing an N-95 mask, one is breathing a 4% concentration of CO2
NIOSH (National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health) prohibits this as unsafe.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9483963/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33858372/#&gid=article-figures&pid=fig-4-uid-3
Not only is there no evidence that face masks work, there is lots of evidence that they caused harm by increasing CO2 levels.
(Remember Kidz, CO2 is a "pollutant". 97% of scientists say so. Many of them are "Doctors")
John Henry
Thomas Jefferson was an outlaw
"Any discussions about profit motives, conferred indemnities from future liabilities, royalties, all of that - when the topic is raised, the subject gets changed. Odd, that."
It's kind of like bringing up the topic of voting irregularities- some people can't run away fast enough.
Military friends of mine at the time got a sensible chuckle out of it, as yet another proof of civilian ignorance about the military, and went on with their lives even more convinced that civilians are pig ignorant and poorly trained as humans.
Did you notice that he ended his apology with the word "Sir?" She didn't seem to notice, which makes it even funnier.
Blogger is even worse today.
MTG is much less annoying than Boxer was.
Michael K said...Did you notice that he ended his apology with the word "Sir?" She didn't seem to notice, which makes it even funnier.
When I first read your comment I thought you were referring to MTG, which, batting a big eyelash, I thought was funny. But realizing that he said it Boxer in the clip she embedded makes it doubly funny!
"I love how Marge puts them in their place where they start drooling because she pissed them off so bad."
When "Marge" attempts to "put them in their place" she succeeds only in making herself look like a crude and childish nitwit. To successfully put someone in their place one must show oneself to be smarter and more well and correctly informed than the person into whose place one intends to put them. And it must be done with cool grace and subtlety.
Only simpletons think blustering and shouting and making schoolyard insults succeeds in anything other than making one look like a crude moron. Which "Marge" does on the regular! (I'm sure even her Republican colleagues are embarrassed by her.)
Way to not see the forest for the Trees Cook.
When Greene goes to the Senate or Whitehouse, Carlus Gann would make a great replacement if he doesn’t get too old.
So your guys' defense of ineffective GOP grandstanders is to say "Hey, they're just like the Dems"?
How about eff the Dems and the GOP members find some competency somewhere?
Fauci lied, people died. He should be in prison. Check out the Email he got 4 days before he publicly rebuked Trump at a White House Presser.
Alexander Sheppard 🇺🇸
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Tony Fauci was told on March 16, 2020, that Hydroxychloroquine was being used to effectively treat COVID-19 in China.
https://x.com/NotAlexSheppard/status/1797736749910597677
the admiral who headed pacific command, was the one who flew in the inverted mig in top gun, so he has some suffering for fools,
now faucis long and bloody career, which was rarely noted except by michael fumento, who was exiled to the phillipines for his trouble, and robert f kennedy jr, who has the receipts,
yes he was a miserable failure at prevention, now if his intention was spreading death and misery well he gets top marks for that,
"When "Marge" attempts to "put them in their place" she succeeds only in making herself look like a crude and childish nitwit. To successfully put someone in their place one must show oneself to be smarter and more well and correctly informed than the person into whose place one intends to put them. And it must be done with cool grace and subtlety."
Now do YOUR president threatening the Time magazine reporter "You looking at me?? I can take you" just like his hero crybaby Bobby DeNiro.
she pointed out the ridiculous pods that did nothing to stop infection, but hampered learning
they drove children to despair because they couldnt see their parents and grandparents off,
you try to calculate the blood price and misery they exacted,
Upthread, I said Fauci was complicit in the death of 7 million. Apparently, it's at least 25 million.
Blogger wendybar said...
Tony Fauci was told on March 16, 2020, that Hydroxychloroquine was being used to effectively treat COVID-19 in China.
https://x.com/NotAlexSheppard/status/1797736749910597677
Kung Flu death rate in China was 3/million population.
In the US it was 3500/mm (or so, from memory)
Did anyone ask Fauci why such a huge, 1000:1 discrepancy? Has anyone ever explained it? Not that I have ever seen.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. The Chinese underreported their deaths. I think that is entirely possible. I know we over reported ours.
So perhaps the disparity is 500:1. Is everyone besides me comfy with that?
John Henry
An Enemy of the People. Ibsen nailed it more than a century ago.
Fauci is infamous for the role he played in progressing the AIDS transgendermic. Him and other prominent Democrats in liberal enclaves.
I wonder whether Greene is aware that Trump supported and even awarded Fauci with a Presidential Commendation for his work in fighting Covid.
You keep running this out there as some sort of gotcha.
It isn't.
"Now do YOUR president threatening the Time magazine reporter "You looking at me?? I can take you" just like his hero crybaby Bobby DeNiro."
Who do you think is my President? It's certainly no one presently in office. (It's not Trump, either.) What does that even have anything to do with my comment? I'm simply pointing out the indisputable: MTG is a crass, immature nitwit who does her own side no favors.
Yancey Ward said...
"...Were I a state AG, I would convene grand juries to indict Ralph Baric, Peter Daszak, and Anthony Fauci for negligent homicide for however many counts of COVID caused deaths in the state, and I would make it easier, if I were in the legislature, to sue these people into penury."
Wouldn't RICO be more applicable? I think a good case could be made for prosecuting Dr. Fauci for conspiring to exacerbate COVID-related deaths.
Apparently there's an effort to prosecute DJT under RICO for "election interference." As far as prosecuting DJT for election interference, that's laughable when the people pushing for it are provably guilty of election manipulation.
Agree with MadTownGuy. Add to the list Dr. Moren, who developed a scheme to hide communications from the public. That should be enough for any reasonable prosecutor to go after him. After all, if hiding information from the public during an election year is bad, then 2020 is an election year and it was a pandemic. Claiming people who never got the vaccine and never got Covid killed people is abhorrent from Fauci, who got vaccinated and got Covid afterwards. He was spreading the disease.
That Barbara Boxer clip pissed me off to no end. I was in the Army for 26 years. "Ma'am" is the term we use for female superiors. "Senator" may be the opposite.
Original Mike said...
"I wonder whether Greene is aware that Trump supported and even awarded Fauci with a Presidential Commendation for his work in fighting Covid."
I imagine that was before we all knew Fauci's role in creating the virus.
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This is false. Trump awarded Fauci with the Presidential Commendation just a day or two before he left office. So he knew damn well that Fauci was a fraud. But he did it anyways.
Surely Fauci viewed it as a stroke of luck to be matched uo with MTG.
If you have to point out all your hard to work beg for respect, you deserve no respect.
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