"... in the April 30
siege of Hamilton Hall at Columbia University because prosecutors had little proof that the cases would stand up at trial. There was limited video footage of what took place inside the campus building.... The protesters wore masks and covered security cameras, preventing prosecutors from identifying those who had barricaded the doors and smashed chairs, desks and windows during the 17-hour occupation.... For similar reasons, prosecutors also dismissed charges against nine of the 22 students and staff members at City College who were arrested inside a campus building and charged with burglary during a protest that took place on the same night as the arrests at Hamilton Hall."
The NYT reports.
"Representative Jerrold Nadler, also a Democrat and the longest-serving Jewish member of the House of Representatives, said he had 'the uttermost faith in D.A. Bragg.'"
AND: What deep emotions stirred within Nadler that caused him to... utter... the strange word "uttermost"? My instinct was to regard it as not a word at all, but a whiffed attempt at "utmost." But I looked it up, and it's a word. The OED has it used by Hobbes ("From the uttermost parts of the Earth") and Milton ("To the uttermost convex Of this great Round") and Shelley ("From the corners uttermost Of the bounds of English coast") and Wordsworth ("A voice of uttermost joy") and Ruskin ("To speak with uttermost truth of expression") and Carlyle ("His accounts lie all ready, correct in black-on-white to the uttermost farthing"). Yes, I can answer my question "What deep emotions...?" The answer: the urge to bullshit.
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Elite Jews have been mostly silent. It wasn’t that long ago graffiti from some kids prompted a week long stop the hate campaign on the news. Now it’s Democrat first. Unbelievable…
Just for the record, I would be curious about the difference between “most” and “all”.
(I took many classes in that lovely building, so sad ).
Richard Epstein weighs in on SCOTUS decisions and the 30 dropped charges, characterizing Bragg as lower than whale shit as a man.
He can have any belief he wants but he has no right to force it on the rest of us, Epstein said.
Seinfeld made some relatively timid public comments of support, a few jokes at Duke. He’s been protested. I hope he has some timid quiet private support because he’s not getting much of the strong public kind…
They held janitors hostage, but who cares?? They are progressives, and as we are learning, they are above the law.
Honestly, I will miss Rudy's NYC. I won't ever go back to the swirling toilet bowl, that used to be the greatest city in America. They are nothing but a progressive shithole now, and they voted for it.
How much time are J6 people serving for trespassing?
As usual, there are no enemies on the left.
Absolutely no one is surprised by this. Moderate Jews aren’t even surprised by Nadler’s betrayal.
The only thing left to debate is “Quisling or Judas?”
I don't understand. If they were arrested "Inside" the building what does it matter if they don't have video footage?
On destruction of Columbia- I’m all for it. They didn’t go anywhere near far enough. Keep going I say…
prosecutors had little proof that the cases would stand up at trial.
When has that ever been a standard of prosecution or prosecutors?
When you engage with a troll, I've got to delete you too. Please return to the topic set up in the post. Thanks.
"prosecutors had little proof that the cases would stand up at trial."
Unless your name is Trump. Then we'll just make stuff up.
Jan.6 and Columbia contrast and compare.
NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW! (except those We Chose NOT to prosecute)
Last night, the Bay Bridge was shut down for over 30 minutes in San Francisco.
0 arrests were made over the incident.
That's Doctor Seinfeld, Rejahm.
If we have to use the title wit "Dr" Jill, we should use it with someone who earned it.
Yeah, I know seinfeld is honorary. He still did. More for his than she did.
John Henry
So those cameras that Gov. Hochul wanted up in the subways to deter crime, all you have to do is disable them and you can get no billed? Thanks DA Bragg!
Utter is the comparative of ut, OE "out." -most presumably makes it superlative.
DA Bragg does what he told and little to nothing else. Apparatchik.
"Utter is the comparative of ut, OE "out." -most presumably makes it superlative."
But we usually say "utmost," not "uttermost."
Superlative would be "utest," which apparently lost to "utter-most."
Alvin Bragg was one of the three chipmunks. I can't find the hit song from the 70s (keep finding only some modern crap big money Christmas production).
Yes, ‘uttermost’ the exaggerated duping language of a compulsive liar. They take delight in the duping…
NYPD should have just let them burn it down.
I can pretty much guarantee Nadler did not get his use of the word 'uttermost' from reading Hobbes, Milton, or Wordsworth. He uttered that word simply by some food or air coming back up as he was speaking. And it came out...ut-TER-most.
In NYC, Jews are getting harassed and attacked in increasing fashion. In LA, only yesterday, Fans of Hamas surrounded a Synagogue and attacked Jews going in. This shit is getting worse by the week. And it'll keep going until there's a mass shooting or a fire started that kills multiple people.
But Alvin Bragg, continuing to make the world question just what it takes to get a position as an NY DA, sees the young Columbia 'students' (we don't actually think that they were all students) as a case with not enough actual evidence. This, from the guy who took an out-of-date misdemeanor, somehow made it a Federal charge, and grounded a Presidential candidate (and former President) for weeks in a show trial that is going to be overturned at some point. I don't think there's any doubt of that.
Just what is Alvin Bragg there for if not simply to have done what he did to Donald Trump? Crime in NYC is way up. People are getting pummeled in the streets. And...he's doing...what?
At long last those who predicted the dark nights of fascism were coming have been proven correct. Of course they were wrong about who would bring the mobs and failed to tell us that they would join them and defend them. But they are here. No doubt about that. Is Joe “Charlottesville” Biden ever going to condemn the Nazis or stand up for the Jews.
Very sad days in America.
What makes this particularly cute is that so many of the opinion pieces defending the Trump charges did so by making an analogy with burglary: if prosecutors can prove that you broke and entered, they can be as vague as they like about what crime you intended to commit once you got inside. Well, then?
'If I take the wings of the morning, And dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea; Even there shall thy hand lead me, And thy right hand shall hold me.'
I think that this is the most well known use of "uttermost." Psalm 139 King James Version.
BTW, the most beautiful name ever given a ship was the American clipper, "Wings of the Morning." But now I'm sliding dangerously off topic.
Out of curiosity I tried to find out what happened to the '68 Columbia protesters who were arrested...nothing, like this?
Only, the university lost endowments and enrollments for awhile. And turned hard left..
Wm Tyndale used uttermost in his translation of the Bible (later copied into the KJV) for which talent he was tracked down and burned at the stake to the uttermost, )see, Hebrews 7:25. ) The role of High Priest Melchesedik is filled by the ascended son of God thus giving Christians assurance they are “ saved to the uttermost”.
Well, darn it, rehajm at 5:52, that was literally what I exclaimed when I read that line: "prosecutors had little proof that the cases would stand up at trial."
Temujin at 7:10 sums up most of the rest of what I came to say.
Except this: it is technically correct to say that prosecutors in New York "had little proof that the cases would stand up at trial," but it's probably more accurate to say "NY prosecutors were CERTAIN that the cases would NOT stand up at trial due to the nature of the Cause the accused were 'protesting.'"
"I think that this is the most well known use of "uttermost." Psalm 139 King James Version."
I looked for other KJV uses of "uttermost." I liked: "
• "And thou shalt make loops of blue upon the edge of the one curtain from the selvedge in the coupling; and likewise shalt thou make in the uttermost edge of another curtain, in the coupling of the second." Exodus 26:4 (sewing instructions!)
• "And when the people complained, it displeased the Lord: and the Lord heard it; and his anger was kindled; and the fire of the Lord burnt among them, and consumed them that were in the uttermost parts of the camp." Numbers 11:1 (Note to self: Don't complain)
• "Every place whereon the soles of your feet shall tread shall be yours: from the wilderness and Lebanon, from the river, the river Euphrates, even unto the uttermost sea shall your coast be." Deuteronomy 11:24 (territorial conquest by the soles of your feet)
• "Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession." Psalm 2:8
• "Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good. For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings. The Lord shall bring upon thee, and upon thy people, and upon thy father's house, days that have not come, from the day that Ephraim departed from Judah; even the king of Assyria. And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall hiss for the fly that is in the uttermost part of the rivers of Egypt, and for the bee that is in the land of Assyria." Isaiah 7:18
• "From the uttermost part of the earth have we heard songs, even glory to the righteous. But I said, My leanness, my leanness, woe unto me! the treacherous dealers have dealt treacherously; yea, the treacherous dealers have dealt very treacherously. Fear, and the pit, and the snare, are upon thee, O inhabitant of the earth." Isaiah 24:16
• "Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing." Matthew 5:26 (Don't go to trial)
Bragg is corrupt. He is blatantly, obviously, and clearly corrupt. He makes comic book supervillains look subtle by comparison.
Nadler gives him his full support.
The rest I leave as an exercise for the reader.
Nadler who had clinton pardon actual capitol bomber susan rosenberg who guilianu had sent up for 58 years teen maoist ensconced in kellogg foundation where she put together so called antifa and blm
Why should the Congressman be labeled as "Jewish" and given some sort of special standing to comment on the Bragg's decision? Its as if this isn't the United States of America, with 300 million people who aren't jewish or arab. We're just some special place where the Jews and Paletstines are having a battle. The obvious implication is that if a Jewish congressman thinks the protesters should be let go, its OK. Who are we non-Jewish Americas to disagree?
Uttermost is fine, but give me udder milk any day of the week.
So there is precedent for nadler being soft on terrorists
Waiting for all those lefties to start punching the Nazis.
The mayor of los angeles where jews are bsited for sport as well karen bass was another one of those terrorists
"Alvin Bragg, the Manhattan district attorney, last week dropped most of the 46 cases against pro-Palestinian demonstrators charged in the April 30 siege of Hamilton Hall at Columbia University because prosecutors had little proof that the cases would stand up at trial"
Oh, bullshit.
They were arrested in the building. That's proof they were there
At least he didn't say, "upmost." (Popular among those who might also use, "imput.")
Why should the Congressman be labeled as "Jewish" and given some sort of special standing to comment on the Bragg's decision?
Really? First of all, he self-identifies as Jewish (no scare quotes needed). Second one of the oldest tropes in journalism is, when covering crimes against a specific ethnic or religious group (surprise Rich, Jews are both) to ask a Democrat from said group for comments on how the crimes are handled.
I'm surprised, as well fed as you are by Leftist news sources, that you have not noticed this standard journalistic habit on your own. Perhaps you have a blind spot regarding those people so that when they are treated like other ethnic and religious groups it stands out for you as somehow more meaningful. It comes off as sounding like you don't want Jews treated as normal people at all.
Message to Jews:
The Trump Admin will prosecute those "protesters" for Civil Rights violations, just like in teh 60s where the local Dems wouldn't prosecute criminals who went after teh unpopular.
For Trump, as if your life depends upon it
Because it does
That's
Vote for Trump, as if your life depends upon it
Hamasidols.
I didn't realize we only prosecuted crimes on video. Whatever did we do before the advent of video? Way back in the day, prosecutors had to hope a witness had depicted the crime on the walls of the cave in ash to get convictions.
Bragg is a corrupt extremist leftist.
Do we have video of Trump having sex with a porn star in 2006?
You know - 2006.
2006.
"How can you send a man to jail, when you ain't even see him do it on the Kinetoscope?"
Democrats have exactly the same appetite for prosecuting Jew-beating rioters now as they had for prosecuting the Klan during Jim Crow. And for the same reason.
As gilbar points out upthread, we’ve been told (and told and told) that “no one is above the law.”
Unless Alvin Bragg gets told that you’re above the law, that is.
Used to be we cared enough about black men that we’d prosecute white people who beat them up and kidnapped them. Times do change, don’t they?
i wonder if any charges will be filed?
Pro-Hamas Mob Attacks, Sprays Jews With Bear Spray Outside L.A. Synagogue
i guess NOT!
Jewish opponents of Hamas are being maced outside a synagogue. No LAPD action
Mayor is venceremos brigade terrorist cadre
At least Nadler didn’t say “refuttal”.
Blogger Mike (MJB Wolf) said...
Democrats have exactly the same appetite for prosecuting Jew-beating rioters now as they had for prosecuting the Klan during Jim Crow. And for the same reason.
Exactly, throw on a hood and who can say if that is Robert Byrd or not.
I never practiced criminal law, so maybe I’m missing something, but didn’t the police catch these perps in the act of criminally trespassing? What other evidence is needed?
Douglas B. Levene: "I never practiced criminal law, so maybe I’m missing something, but didn’t the police catch these perps in the act of criminally trespassing? What other evidence is needed?"
LOL
That's adorable.
Douglas B. Levene: "I never practiced criminal law, so maybe I’m missing something, but didn’t the police catch these perps in the act of criminally trespassing? What other evidence is needed?"
And why do you need to know precisely what each person did? If you can prove they were working together -- a conspiracy -- then all are responsible for each others actions.
Ann Althouse said...
Douglas B. Levene: "I never practiced criminal law, so maybe I’m missing something, but didn’t the police catch these perps in the act of criminally trespassing? What other evidence is needed?"
And why do you need to know precisely what each person did? If you can prove they were working together -- a conspiracy -- then all are responsible for each others actions.
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Your pro-Jewish bias is showing again, (emeritus Wisconsin) professor.
Sometimes, saying less is better than overreaching... Tell us again how many years you practiced criminal law, and how many years you (and yours/the Cohens) put in toiling in overworked public prosecutors or public defenders offices.
Don't worry. The republic will survive this encroachment on the good university Columbia this time too, you old boomer gal you...
"... and the words of the prophets are written on the subway wall, tenement halls... disturbed the Sounds of Silence. And the people bowed and prayed, to the neon gods they'd made..."
ADDED: Ann's two sons, and current husband, are all too old to be drafted or die fighting for/in Israel, remember people... She has no skin in this game. Again.
Just because it is a new word to you,
doesn't mean it's a new word to most readers.
Audiobook "reading" does not make you a scholar, ma'am.
And overrated fiction -- which is what I recall you reading for years, if any pre-retirement, does not a real reader make.
Hth.
Well gollee! A new word. As in, "I have the uttermost contempt for Fat Jer Nadler and Fat Head Alvin Bragg". Uttermost and utmost may be a distinction without a difference. I'd also apply "utmost" to my feelings re Bragg and Nadler.
If any of America’s secular Jews are wondering whether they are still respected within the Democrats, this incident, coupled with the recent pummeling of a Jewish family at a fifth grade graduation and the attack on synagogue attendees in LA yesterday gives an unambiguous answer, f**k no!
The question is what they intend to do about it. (And, no, I don’t anticipate seeing lots of yarmulkes at Trump rallies.)
Jerry Nadless would rather enable and protect violent Jew-haters, than insult Bragg.
Good to know his priorities.
Twice in one day I have an excuse to use "You never go full retard."
Thanks, Alvin and D.
I would argue that this relates to the subject of the post because it highlights evidence of a possible shared religious or ethnic motivation behind Bragg's decision and the responses to it.
"...to the uttermost farting..."
So apropos of Jerry Nadler.
How many of the vandals who burned things down or stole from or grafittied public buildings during the BLM outbursts were prosecuted?
Do two wrongs make a right?
Why don't you ever give a peep when Catholic priests are assaulted and killed? Are some lives valued less in your book than others?
Answering your second question first, yes. People who are just minding their own business — attendees at a fifth grade graduation, maintenance workers at a university, devout people going to synagogue (or church) — are more deserving of protection than than people trying to assault people who are just minding their own business. Obviously. As to Catholic priests, I am unaware that they are assaulted and killed here in the United States. Have you a link?
What I find interesting, and why I responded to this post, is that as recently as two years ago if someone had asked whether, given that they had already thrown working class families out of their coalition, the Democrats could survive as a viable party without secular Jews,I’d have answered pretty strongly in the negative. Yet here we are. No one questions that Bragg made a political decision to drop the cases. So the bosses of the Democrat Party are right and I’m wrong, or I’m right and the Democrats are headed for permanent minority status. It’s fascinating.
I am amazed that Bragg will not prosecute this due to lack of video evidence but Trump's "crime" he WILL prosecute in spite of the same limitation.
The progressives have decided to kill equal justice.
They will not enjoy what this will lead to.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13561697/Los-Angeles-Palestine-Israel-protests-violence-arrest-child-car.html
I'm late to the conversation, but I agree with 'wendybar' above. We used to go to NYC almost every Christmas holiday season. Watch the kids skate at the Plaza, see the tree lighting, etc, we always would stay at the Roosevelt. Now look at it. Thankfully we have hit most of the most tourist stuff, museums, Statue of Liberty, etc. It's going back to the hell-scape it was when I went there in the 70's on a school field trip. As I was 18, I did get a beer at the WTC cafeteria.
Vigilanties. Coming soon. 3-7-77, FTW
Carol Wayne gave her uddermost.
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