I feel like Marvin the morose robot reading all this shit about Trump lawfare, etc... "Oh there really isn't any point to it all" I'd prefer to be Ford Prefect, or Zaphod Beeblebrox.
Something to think about... If the US is sliding into some sort of entity where the government begins to hold too much power and can, with impunity: prosecute people, control narratives, dictate where you can go, who you can associate with, whether you can work, and whether you can say no to medical treatment, you have to ask yourself, "where do I draw the line, has this has gone too far?"
Then ask yourself this more important question: "When the government gets to the point where I simply cannot look aside, will it have gotten so far that I will not have sufficient power to halt the progress."
You may discover that your unwillingness to confront the beast will have led to the beast being too big to confront by the time your threshold is crossed. Do you want to wait that long?
Finally, ask yourself who is doing these things, and against whom are they being done? Are you content because the receivers are those whom you hold in contempt and thus are acceptable victims? When do you become the next contemptable?
Canaries have died people. How long are you going to wait?
Biden* says it is reckless to call a trial rigged.
Which is worse, rigging a trial or calling it rigged?
Which is worse, rigging an election or calling it rigged?
If the democrats can, in front of the entire world rig a trial, do you think they would be reticent about rigging an election in secret? The clues were there, but some thought it too reckless to investigate.
What did we learn? That the people who do the dirty deeds know that there are no consequences for said dirty deeds because the bureaucracy and the media will cover for you.
I have said many times over they years, it's not the institutions that are good, it is that they are checked by competing institutions that force them into good behavior. You should always work to limit the power of the dominant institutions, especially when nearly all of them are aligned on one side. Being liberal does not sanctify you, it only allows you to sleep better because you think your justifications for evil are better.
"Speaker Mike Johnson said on Fox News on Friday... He’s a symbol of fighting back against ... the bureaucracy and all the rest.'... " Just come out and say it. You mean the Professor and Mary Ann.
"Whilst the last members were signing it [i.e., the Constitution] Doct FRANKLIN looking towards the Presidents Chair, at the back of which a rising sun happened to be painted, observed to a few members near him, that Painters had found it difficult to distinguish in their art a rising from a setting sun. I have said he, often and often in the course of the Session, and the vicissitudes of my hopes and fears as to its issue, looked at that behind the President without being able to tell whether it was rising or setting: But now at length I have the happiness to know that it is a rising and not a setting Sun."
Matt Taibbi splains a few things to people who think rigging trials will make them popular. For one thing this is just more of the exact same shit that made people turn to Trump in the first place.
Most but not all experts are opining that even Judge Marchan knows that jailing Trump would be a bridge too far for all but the most rabid Dems, and expect him to sentence Trump to some probation with a large fine. They rightly fear making Trump even more of a martyr than they already have. A similar majority understand that the Dems will stop at nothing to maintain their power, either just for the sake of power, or because they fear the backlash when the Trump administration treats them the way they treated Trump and his team (a lot of justification for this fear, I hope). The Dems may have no choice but to jail Trump, if current trends continue. The results of the trial at present have made Trump more powerful, more popular, and more likely to win. Dems may see no alternative to putting him in jail as a Jail Mary move, reasoning that anything less will never work, and if he's in jail, they may be able to beat him. It's not their problem to figure out what to do if Trump wins from jail. Wind, whirlwind, some assembly required.
'Then ask yourself this more important question: "When the government gets to the point where I simply cannot look aside, will it have gotten so far that I will not have sufficient power to halt the progress."'
Politicians are not afraid of their constituents anymore.
I think that they are gutting the dollar, but I don't think that they are doing it intentionally. I think that they picked this war with Russia that they thought that they would have won already, leaving China to stand against us alone. I think that they are shocked that Russia weathered the sanctions, and that Russia is only getting stronger, not weaker, and that China won't help us defeat Russia, leaving them to face us alone when we even now have troops in Taiwan, in preparation for involvement in China's civil war.
I can't figure out if they really think that China is stupid enough to abandon Russia, or it's just that they have gone to the well so often flexing US power, that they can't believe it's not working this time. Whatever it is, this is starting to look like the final desperate bid for total and perpetual US domination of the entire globe, and some very large bets have been made. Right now Europe has been left with energy costs almost double what they were when they were getting cheap oil from Russia, and if they don't somehow defeat Russia, and get their hands back on those cheap resources, Europe is looking at a future of deindustrialization.
Everybody likes to focus on finance, banking, etc, but military comes first, and finance is there to exploit the spoils of war. But as for the headline, the only way out of the debt that we are in is to inflate our way out of it, obviously, and if we end up the dominant military power on the globe after this struggle with Russia, China, and Iran, and North Korea, then what are people going to do about it? I just don't see us skating over Russia and China that easily.
Washington pols always see elections through a rearview mirror, imagining candidates create supporters, not vice versa. It comes from the belief that voters are sheep and have no beliefs beyond what their political betters instruct them to feel.
Sounds more like Democrats and GOPe Republicans than MAGA.
"Voters lead the way. Politicians arrive to take advantage. It’s always how it works."
Imagine working for the US state department, CIA or other agency and trying to keep a straight face while you lecture some foreign leaders or government officials about not going after political opponents or jailing them.
The Manhattan courtroom was so cold it violated his due process rights.
Any judges with Democrats in their family are disqualified from presiding over trials of Donald Trump.
It is unfair for a man to be tried in the state where he lived for 70 years of his life, where he built a business, and where he committed his crimes.
Trump cannot be prosecuted for cheating to win while he was President and cannot be prosecuted for cheating to win after he lost the presidency.
Trump’s practice of hiring liars to lie for him should immunize him from any criminal liability for crimes committed by those liars.
All of this is nonsense. But it is nonsense that has become an article of faith for members of a cult that make up 40% of the US voting population. All of this nonsense is the price of admission to the Neo-Republican Party. And because they all adhere to this nonsense, it serves as a make-believe reality for those who must have a sick cause to fight.
David Shafer @DavidShafer · Follow My name is David. This fall I will be voting for the candidate found mentally competent to stand trial. 2:31 PM · May 31, 2024
“Americans and other Westerners who want their families to enjoy the blessings of life in a free society should understand that the life we’ve led since 1945 in the Western World is very rare in human history. Our children are unlikely to enjoy anything so placid and may well spend their adult years in an ugly and savage world, unless we decide that who and what we are is worth defending.” — Mark Steyn
Isn't it funny how Judge Merchan keeps on "randomly" getting the Trump related trials in NYC?? He is the judge in Steve Bannon's upcoming trial in January. Another notch on this crooked Judges bedpost.
I simply do not buy the theory that Merchan will do anything but sentence Trump to the maximum. The strategy so far has been to throw the book at Trump and give him the worst possible ruling they could. The only argument against there strategy is it is dumb. When has that stopped them?
BTW, all the betting odds I've found still favor Trump. Odd, huh?
I'm not even being sarcastic. I do think it's odd. Post the vagaries (that should probably be in quotes, since they were hardly inexplicable) of 2020, I no longer believe national elections can be counted on to be fairly run or accurately tallied, so my vote for Trump will be solely a protest vote against the side that rendered them so; I don't expect Trump to take office because I don't think it will be permitted, BAMN and all that. But how do we explain those odds?
Gadfly, rather than making up cute arguments and mocking them, you might care to address the actual flaws in the prosecution's case? They are many and have been pointed out repeatedly. Perhaps you would like to respond specifically to Dershowitz's comments on the case.
Merchan has made a very important contribution to the arts. Along with the jury he has shown that Law And Order TV is Satirical Comedy rather than Drama. The Fundamental Transformation is exciting! Ch CH CH Changes.
Merchan will likely imprison Trump for the duration of the sentencing hearings, which by coincidence start just before the RNC convention, and which could easily be dragged out past the end of them if Merchan wants them to.
Mike of Snoqualmie said... "The minisub is back. It's periscope is up in two of the pictures." I'm curious as to what they find so interesting in that part of the lake.
Strange, really strange! Page Six reports that Melania, Barron, and later Ivanka sneaked into Trump's NY triplex to commiserate with poor Donald before he hustled off to a fundraiser on the Upper East Side on Thursday evening? Why would family members attempt to hide their visit and even more puzzling, why didn't they ever attend the trial?
Old and slow said... Gadfly, rather than making up cute arguments and mocking them, you might care to address the actual flaws in the prosecution's case? They are many and have been pointed out repeatedly. Perhaps you would like to respond specifically to Dershowitz's comments on the case.
As for Dershowitz, I am not interested in reading anything stated by Jeffrey Epstein's lawyer and friend who flew on the Lolita Express and got the child sexual abuser off in his Florida trial.
If there were flaws in the detailed case presented against Trump, his lawyers blew their defense by attacking witnesses instead of presenting any real facts. Document-driven cases are indeed hard to combat. When the push came to a shove, about 15 Trump employees, his friend David Pecker, and his loyal assistant Hope Hicks - did him in - with a little help from Stormy Daniels and Michael Cohen. Of course, Trump could have testified but he did not. Instead, he attacked the judge, the jury, and their families - and he continues to do so while we await his sentencing.
As for the jury, the prosecution and defense lawyers interviewed rooms full of candidates before they selected the jury. You are old and slow if you do not recognize that the rule of law prevailed. I suggest that you read up on all the law-breaking that Trump did during his adult life and wonder why it took so long to get here.
gadfly said... "Strange, really strange! Page Six reports that Melania, Barron, and later Ivanka sneaked into Trump's NY triplex to commiserate with poor Donald before he hustled off to a fundraiser on the Upper East Side on Thursday evening? Why would family members attempt to hide their visit and even more puzzling, why didn't they ever attend the trial?"
I think I see yer problem lady! You believe everything you read in the NYT. You also aren't very perceptive. If it were my family I'd want them as far away from the outpouring of horseshit that attends to this sort of show trial. Because I'm kinda a moral guy and I care about my family.
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I feel like Marvin the morose robot reading all this shit about Trump lawfare, etc... "Oh there really isn't any point to it all" I'd prefer to be Ford Prefect, or Zaphod Beeblebrox.
I knew it would happen.
My nephew's band, now ten years old, is named Subtle Orange.
YouTube: What is a felony again?
Hint: it's not about Trump.
Wonderful pictures. I always imagine them as sunsets but its the reverse.
Something to think about... If the US is sliding into some sort of entity where the government begins to hold too much power and can, with impunity: prosecute people, control narratives, dictate where you can go, who you can associate with, whether you can work, and whether you can say no to medical treatment, you have to ask yourself, "where do I draw the line, has this has gone too far?"
Then ask yourself this more important question: "When the government gets to the point where I simply cannot look aside, will it have gotten so far that I will not have sufficient power to halt the progress."
You may discover that your unwillingness to confront the beast will have led to the beast being too big to confront by the time your threshold is crossed. Do you want to wait that long?
Finally, ask yourself who is doing these things, and against whom are they being done? Are you content because the receivers are those whom you hold in contempt and thus are acceptable victims? When do you become the next contemptable?
Canaries have died people. How long are you going to wait?
Biden* says it is reckless to call a trial rigged.
Which is worse, rigging a trial or calling it rigged?
Which is worse, rigging an election or calling it rigged?
If the democrats can, in front of the entire world rig a trial, do you think they would be reticent about rigging an election in secret? The clues were there, but some thought it too reckless to investigate.
What did we learn? That the people who do the dirty deeds know that there are no consequences for said dirty deeds because the bureaucracy and the media will cover for you.
I have said many times over they years, it's not the institutions that are good, it is that they are checked by competing institutions that force them into good behavior. You should always work to limit the power of the dominant institutions, especially when nearly all of them are aligned on one side. Being liberal does not sanctify you, it only allows you to sleep better because you think your justifications for evil are better.
"Speaker Mike Johnson said on Fox News on Friday... He’s a symbol of fighting back against ... the bureaucracy and all the rest.'... "
Just come out and say it. You mean the Professor and Mary Ann.
Superfine photos--I think #2 is the best.
I'm avoiding the Trump Trial Tango as much as possible by skipping most of the threads, other than checking the comment counts.
If I have anything to say that many haven't already said as well or better than I can, I'll post it.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2024/05/in_rafah_israeli_control_means_the_residents_get_affordable_food.html
Well the declaration comes to mind i know thats very insurrectionary!!!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13480491/donald-trump-verdict-guilty-poll-positive.html?ico=related-replace
https://rumble.com/v4ynkoq-are-they-gutting-the-dollar-on-purpose.html
Not again
https://x.com/gil_zussman/status/1796689637580112265
Not again
https://x.com/gil_zussman/status/1796689637580112265
https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2024/05/31/vermont-becomes-first-state-force-oil-companies-pay-climate-change/
https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2024/05/31/vermont-becomes-first-state-force-oil-companies-pay-climate-change/
"Whilst the last members were signing it [i.e., the Constitution] Doct FRANKLIN looking towards the Presidents Chair, at the back of which a rising sun happened to be painted, observed to a few members near him, that Painters had found it difficult to distinguish in their art a rising from a setting sun. I have said he, often and often in the course of the Session, and the vicissitudes of my hopes and fears as to its issue, looked at that behind the President without being able to tell whether it was rising or setting: But now at length I have the happiness to know that it is a rising and not a setting Sun."
- Benj. Franklin
If only.
https://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2024/05/31/here-tell-these-people-something-they-dont-know-about-me/
Matt Taibbi splains a few things to people who think rigging trials will make them popular. For one thing this is just more of the exact same shit that made people turn to Trump in the first place.
Most but not all experts are opining that even Judge Marchan knows that jailing Trump would be a bridge too far for all but the most rabid Dems, and expect him to sentence Trump to some probation with a large fine. They rightly fear making Trump even more of a martyr than they already have.
A similar majority understand that the Dems will stop at nothing to maintain their power, either just for the sake of power, or because they fear the backlash when the Trump administration treats them the way they treated Trump and his team (a lot of justification for this fear, I hope).
The Dems may have no choice but to jail Trump, if current trends continue. The results of the trial at present have made Trump more powerful, more popular, and more likely to win. Dems may see no alternative to putting him in jail as a Jail Mary move, reasoning that anything less will never work, and if he's in jail, they may be able to beat him. It's not their problem to figure out what to do if Trump wins from jail.
Wind, whirlwind, some assembly required.
'Then ask yourself this more important question: "When the government gets to the point where I simply cannot look aside, will it have gotten so far that I will not have sufficient power to halt the progress."'
Politicians are not afraid of their constituents anymore.
Until they are, we are serfs...
I think that they are gutting the dollar, but I don't think that they are doing it intentionally. I think that they picked this war with Russia that they thought that they would have won already, leaving China to stand against us alone. I think that they are shocked that Russia weathered the sanctions, and that Russia is only getting stronger, not weaker, and that China won't help us defeat Russia, leaving them to face us alone when we even now have troops in Taiwan, in preparation for involvement in China's civil war.
I can't figure out if they really think that China is stupid enough to abandon Russia, or it's just that they have gone to the well so often flexing US power, that they can't believe it's not working this time. Whatever it is, this is starting to look like the final desperate bid for total and perpetual US domination of the entire globe, and some very large bets have been made. Right now Europe has been left with energy costs almost double what they were when they were getting cheap oil from Russia, and if they don't somehow defeat Russia, and get their hands back on those cheap resources, Europe is looking at a future of deindustrialization.
Everybody likes to focus on finance, banking, etc, but military comes first, and finance is there to exploit the spoils of war. But as for the headline, the only way out of the debt that we are in is to inflate our way out of it, obviously, and if we end up the dominant military power on the globe after this struggle with Russia, China, and Iran, and North Korea, then what are people going to do about it? I just don't see us skating over Russia and China that easily.
"Matt Taibbi splains..."
From that link:
Washington pols always see elections through a rearview mirror, imagining candidates create supporters, not vice versa. It comes from the belief that voters are sheep and have no beliefs beyond what their political betters instruct them to feel.
Sounds more like Democrats and GOPe Republicans than MAGA.
"Voters lead the way. Politicians arrive to take advantage. It’s always how it works."
Sounds like Trump figured it out.
News flash! - Ham sandwiches nervous all across New York, most are moving to Florida.
Imagine working for the US state department, CIA or other agency and trying to keep a straight face while you lecture some foreign leaders or government officials about not going after political opponents or jailing them.
YouTube: Are we going to have a Hillary v Trump rematch?
Get ready everyone.
You're about to be stuffed with Pride.
You can't escape it.
Just lie back and think of San Francisco.
"Salem Apologizes, Retracts Dinesh D’Souza’s Debunked Election Fraud Movie ‘2000 Mules’"
https://www.mediaite.com/media/salem-apologizes-retracts-dinesh-dsouzas-debunked-election-fraud-movie-2000-mules/
Anyone remember when we sang "The Star Spangled Banner" at events and MEANT the lines, "land of the free and home of the brave"?
The Democrats have taken this from us, and they must....be....punished...for doing so.
The Manhattan courtroom was so cold it violated his due process rights.
Any judges with Democrats in their family are disqualified from presiding over trials of Donald Trump.
It is unfair for a man to be tried in the state where he lived for 70 years of his life, where he built a business, and where he committed his crimes.
Trump cannot be prosecuted for cheating to win while he was President and cannot be prosecuted for cheating to win after he lost the presidency.
Trump’s practice of hiring liars to lie for him should immunize him from any criminal liability for crimes committed by those liars.
All of this is nonsense. But it is nonsense that has become an article of faith for members of a cult that make up 40% of the US voting population. All of this nonsense is the price of admission to the Neo-Republican Party. And because they all adhere to this nonsense, it serves as a make-believe reality for those who must have a sick cause to fight.
Me too!!
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2:31 PM · May 31, 2024
Matt Taibbi on media dictating what’s false:
https://open.substack.com/pub/taibbi/p/trump-and-falsely?r=rj5pk&utm_medium=ios
“Americans and other Westerners who want their families to enjoy the blessings of life in a free society should understand that the life we’ve led since 1945 in the Western World is very rare in human history. Our children are unlikely to enjoy anything so placid and may well spend their adult years in an ugly and savage world, unless we decide that who and what we are is worth defending.” — Mark Steyn
Isn't it funny how Judge Merchan keeps on "randomly" getting the Trump related trials in NYC?? He is the judge in Steve Bannon's upcoming trial in January. Another notch on this crooked Judges bedpost.
I simply do not buy the theory that Merchan will do anything but sentence Trump to the maximum. The strategy so far has been to throw the book at Trump and give him the worst possible ruling they could. The only argument against there strategy is it is dumb. When has that stopped them?
Which is worse, rigging a trial or calling it rigged?
Which is worse, rigging an election or calling it rigged?
Depends on whether you're the rigger, I suppose.
BTW, all the betting odds I've found still favor Trump. Odd, huh?
I'm not even being sarcastic. I do think it's odd. Post the vagaries (that should probably be in quotes, since they were hardly inexplicable) of 2020, I no longer believe national elections can be counted on to be fairly run or accurately tallied, so my vote for Trump will be solely a protest vote against the side that rendered them so; I don't expect Trump to take office because I don't think it will be permitted, BAMN and all that. But how do we explain those odds?
The minisub is back. It's periscope is up in two of the pictures.
Gadfly, rather than making up cute arguments and mocking them, you might care to address the actual flaws in the prosecution's case? They are many and have been pointed out repeatedly. Perhaps you would like to respond specifically to Dershowitz's comments on the case.
Merchan has made a very important contribution to the arts. Along with the jury he has shown that Law And Order TV is Satirical Comedy rather than Drama.
The Fundamental Transformation is exciting!
Ch CH CH Changes.
Merchan will likely imprison Trump for the duration of the sentencing hearings, which by coincidence start just before the RNC convention, and which could easily be dragged out past the end of them if Merchan wants them to.
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🚨🚨🚨Exclusive !!! The face of corruption.
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Mike of Snoqualmie said...
"The minisub is back. It's periscope is up in two of the pictures."
I'm curious as to what they find so interesting in that part of the lake.
Strange, really strange! Page Six reports that Melania, Barron, and later Ivanka sneaked into Trump's NY triplex to commiserate with poor Donald before he hustled off to a fundraiser on the Upper East Side on Thursday evening? Why would family members attempt to hide their visit and even more puzzling, why didn't they ever attend the trial?
Starting with picture #4 the reverse sequence resembles an atomic bomb detonation. Tiny mushroom clout #4. Great color and composition!
Old and slow said...
Gadfly, rather than making up cute arguments and mocking them, you might care to address the actual flaws in the prosecution's case? They are many and have been pointed out repeatedly. Perhaps you would like to respond specifically to Dershowitz's comments on the case.
As for Dershowitz, I am not interested in reading anything stated by Jeffrey Epstein's lawyer and friend who flew on the Lolita Express and got the child sexual abuser off in his Florida trial.
If there were flaws in the detailed case presented against Trump, his lawyers blew their defense by attacking witnesses instead of presenting any real facts. Document-driven cases are indeed hard to combat. When the push came to a shove, about 15 Trump employees, his friend David Pecker, and his loyal assistant Hope Hicks - did him in - with a little help from Stormy Daniels and Michael Cohen. Of course, Trump could have testified but he did not. Instead, he attacked the judge, the jury, and their families - and he continues to do so while we await his sentencing.
As for the jury, the prosecution and defense lawyers interviewed rooms full of candidates before they selected the jury. You are old and slow if you do not recognize that the rule of law prevailed. I suggest that you read up on all the law-breaking that Trump did during his adult life and wonder why it took so long to get here.
gadfly said...
"Strange, really strange! Page Six reports that Melania, Barron, and later Ivanka sneaked into Trump's NY triplex to commiserate with poor Donald before he hustled off to a fundraiser on the Upper East Side on Thursday evening? Why would family members attempt to hide their visit and even more puzzling, why didn't they ever attend the trial?"
I think I see yer problem lady! You believe everything you read in the NYT. You also aren't very perceptive.
If it were my family I'd want them as far away from the outpouring of horseshit that attends to this sort of show trial. Because I'm kinda a moral guy and I care about my family.
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