April 2, 2024

RFK Jr. said what needs to be said: Biden's use of government power to suppress the speech of his political antagonists is a worse threat to democracy than whatever Trump has done.

"I can make the argument that President Biden is the much worse threat to democracy, and the reason for that is President Biden is... the first president in history that has used the federal agencies to censor political speech, so to censor his opponent. I can say that because I just won a case in the federal court of appeals — and now before the Supreme Court — that shows that he started censoring not just me but, 37 hours after he took the oath of office, he was censoring me (sic). No President in the country has ever done that. The greatest threat in democracy is not somebody who questions election returns but a President of the United States who used the power of his office to force the social media companies — Facebook, Instagram, Twitter — to open a portal and give access to that portal to the FBI, to the CIA, to the IRS, to [???], to NIH, to censor his political critics. President Biden, the first President in history, used his power over the Secret Service to deny Secret Service protection to one of his political opponents, for political reasons. He's weaponizing the federal agencies. Those are really critical threats to democracy."

The interviewer — perhaps only pretending to misunderstand — asks how what Trump did is not a threat to democracy. RFK Jr. answers: "I think that is a threat to democracy. Him... trying to overthrow the election clearly is a threat to democracy. But the question was: Who is a worse threat to democracy? And what I would say is— I’m not going to answer that question, but I can argue that President Biden is because the First Amendment, Erin, is the most important— Adams and Hamilton and Madison said, We put the guarantee of freedom of expression in the First Amendment because all of the other constitutional rights depend on it. If you have a government that can silence its opponents, it has license for any atrocity.... What President in history has ever tried to censor political opponents? What President has weaponized the federal agencies? You know, when my father came into the Justice Department, the first week he was there, he got all of the branch and division attorneys together, and he said, Whatever we do, we are not going to use the power of the Justice Department for political reasons...."

Pushed again about Trump's resistance to accepting the announced result of the 2020 election, he reminds us that elections can be stolen, and he personally thinks that has happened — twice! — in the last 20 years: "In 2001 [sic], we had an election stolen in this country, during the Bush/Gore election. In 2004, I wrote an award-winning article for Rolling Stone that showed how that election how that election was stolen from John Kerry... and most Americans agree with me about 2001, that it was a stolen election, from the Democratic candidate, so I don't think people who say an election is stolen— we shouldn't make pariahs of those people. We shouldn't demonize them. We shouldn't vilify them. What we should be doing is saying let's all get together — Republicans and Democrats — and fix the election system, so that... we're the exemplary democracy of the world."

ADDED: RFK Jr. doesn't mention the 1960 election. Was that one stolen — the one with RFK Jr.'s uncle? In 2000, just before the Bush v. Gore election, Slate ran "Was Nixon Robbed? The legend of the stolen 1960 presidential election":
“You gotta swallow this one,” says a Republican hack in Oliver Stone’s Nixon, referring to the 1960 election, in which John F. Kennedy prevailed. “They stole it fair and square.”

That Richard Nixon was cheated out of the presidency in 1960 has become almost an accepted fact. You’ve probably heard the allegations: Kennedy’s operatives fixed the tallies in Texas and Illinois, giving him those states’ 51 electoral votes and a majority in the Electoral College. Fearing that to question the results would harm the country, Nixon checked his pride and declined to mount a challenge....

Just because it's in an Oliver Stone movie doesn't make it true, but...

[A]ccording to journalist Seymour Hersh, a former Justice Department prosecutor who heard tapes of FBI wiretaps from the period believed that Illinois was rightfully Nixon’s. Hersh also has written that J. Edgar Hoover believed Nixon actually won the presidency but in deciding to follow normal procedures and refer the FBI’s findings to the attorney general—as of Jan. 20, 1961, Robert F. Kennedy—he effectively buried the case.

RFK?! That spices up RFK Jr.'s invocation of Whatever we do, we are not going to use the power of the Justice Department for political reasons....

106 comments:

Chris said...

Did trump try to overthrow the election anymore than Al Gore? Hillary Clinton? Seriously. Is RFKJR (Womanizer, Washington DC) just saying that to win favor with the press?

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

I heard a clip of a loyal hack-D press person yesterday. He stated with emphatic fear that if Trump were elected - voting would be a thing of the past.

A total fabrication and lie.

This is the fake news and lies we get from the leftist authoritarian in the media screaming about fake news. LIES!

Notice also that the fake Russian collusion story is all gone.

Jersey Fled said...

Thank you JFK. Now where are the other honest Democrats.

Mr. O. Possum said...

Biden's refusal to give RFK Secret Service protection is the lowest, most despicable thing any president has done.

Readering said...

RFK Jr says him not having Secret Service protection as a presidential candidate is a threat to democracy? Nuts.

Dave Begley said...

The Dems have to be furious with CNN.

Howard (not that Howard) said...

Not to mention his ignoring of immigration enforcement, law enforcement in general, repeated attempts to end-run Congress in regards to student loan forgiveness, etc etc.

Kevin said...

No cap.

Left Bank of the Charles said...


“I’m not going to answer that question. But I can argue …” Except RFK jr. didn’t argue that in court. RFK Jr.’s complaint in his case states that the censorship began in 2020, when Donald Trump was President:

“Beginning in early 2020 and continuing to the present day, the federal government has waged a systematic, concerted campaign, astonishing in its breadth and effectiveness, to “induce, encourage, [and] promote” the nation’s three largest social-media platforms “to accomplish what [the government] is constitutionally forbidden to accomplish”—namely, the censorship of constitutionally protected speech.”

So how does Biden become the “first” when his complaint makes plain it started under Trump?

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

While our hack mob FEDS go after facebook the free speech of those who do not fall in line with the corrupt left... the tax payer funded inept FEDS are useless taking out Putin.

Enigma said...

RFK Jr. is spot on here. Trump was a dangerously naïve outsider in 2016, and the Deep State toyed with him like a cat toys with a mouse. The media laughed out loud, and then Trump was suckered by the seditious Mueller investigation and bureaucratic "resistance," as used to cover up the seditious Crossfire Hurricane effort.

Trump's main offenses were to be rude and to say the politically incorrect things on a lot of people's minds. Obama-Clinton-Biden were all insiders using every State tool possible for political gain. IMO, Obama himself was extremely naïve from 2008-2010. This led to Party and Deep State personnel taking over government no later than the 2010 election cycle with Democratic loss of congress. Obama was a dreamy academic figurehead with the desired skin color, but upon discovering the bare knuckles and dirty sausage making of D.C. he literally bowed down in deference to everyone.

Given Biden's level of cognitive functioning, the Deep State likely hasn't informed him of all they are doing. Just like with Obama and Trump, they truly run the show.

See Rome's Praetorian Guard.

rehajm said...

Sorry to interrupt Mr. Kennedy but the IRS is here. They’d like a word…

rehajm said...

The CNBC Jim Cramer leopard lady says Donald Trump tried to overturn a free and fair election, without evidence it was free and fair

D.D. Driver said...

This would carry more weight if Trump hasn't said shit like this:

https://archive.ph/u0vZk

Political Junkie said...

Bravo RFK Jr.

Breezy said...

RFK Jr stuck to his guns on the Biden threat to free speech and using fed agencies against political opponents. Good for him. He’s correct about these but I wish he’d added the threat to democracy posed by Biden’s open border, as well.

I do wish these hosts would acknowledge the fact that 2020 may not have been free or fair though. Burnett claimed all the analyses prove that it was, but that’s not a true statement by any stretch.

Aggie said...

In that setting, RFK Jr is but one fractured, dysphonic voice, shouting weakly into a typhoon.

He has a strong point, but it is only a point - against a formidable wall.

Dave Begley said...

Is Bobby still without Secret Service protection? If so, that is completely horrible and extremely petty.

I saw him in Iowa and he has private security. I thanked them.

gspencer said...

"No President in the country has ever done that."

Not quite. Wilson, another Democrat, did it, using the unconstitutional Espionage Act.

Democrats do a lotta unconstitutional things. Seems they really don't want to be restrained by the document. Perhaps their oaths to faithfulness to it can't be trusted.

J2 said...

(???) is CISA Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency

From Wikipedia: CISA

"is a component of the United States Department of Homeland Security (DHS) responsible for cybersecurity and infrastructure protection across all levels of government, coordinating cybersecurity programs with U.S. states, and improving the government's cybersecurity protections against private and nation-state hackers.[4]"

Sydney said...

My only quibble is that Biden wasn’t the first to weaponize the agencies. Obama was first, when he used the IRS to go after opponents.

Breezy said...

The unknown agency RFK listed - “???” - is CISA - Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, part of DHS.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

No! What is worse... by far... Trump paying off a woman named Stormy after he schtooped her.

Like, 100% illegal man. Campaign finance and stuff, man. Heard it on Maddow.

Husk-mob-puppet Crook Joe removing free speech? nah - that's nothing compared to a hush money payment.

The left know a hush money payment is not illegal. Which is why they are using the "campaign finance" excuse. It's their only legal weapon.

The left are collective authoritarians, liars, and a-holes.

gilbar said...

what WAS It, that Trump DID? HOW did HE threaten democrats.. Sorry! i meant to type democracy?

Chuck said...

I am not going to even countenance any argument that what Trump has done regarding the 2020 election -- which he lost -- was to "question" it.

Trump illegally conspired to overturn the election in any and almost every way that he could.

Trump has claimed, falsely, that the election had been "stolen" from him. He's made the claim hundreds of times, in a myriad of ways. All false. And all more or less destructive to what should be America's rightful trust in its electoral representative democracy.

There are some rather obvious ways to "question" an election. File lawsuits; use your First Amendment speech rights. But pressuring officials to defy their Constitutional duties is not part of it. Inciting violence is not part of it.

The more I see interviews with RFKJr, and the more I see of cameras looking at his face and into his eyes, the more I see him as a profoundly damaged, dangerous, reckless, recovering heroin addict.

Temujin said...

She didn't even blink. She didn't even respond to his long explanation of how Joe Biden is the greater, and more obvious threat, to our Republic. I'm sure she had her producer talking in her ear, but they glossed right over what he said- all very important points. Not even that. She acted as if he had said nothing, as if there were 45 seconds of silence, and just moved on. Notably, CNN and their cohorts in the large media business, took part in this censoring, and continue to do so. They don't see it that way. They see themselves as noble people in the fight for a great cause. Which would be hilarious if it weren't so dangerous for our country.

Biden is unquestionably a great threat to our freedom. He/they show it daily (by 'they' I mean those actually making policy direction and decisions before having Joe sign off on something.) But that said, I think putting Trump back up there for another run is nuts. He's nuts. Trump is both brilliant and nuts. And frankly, I've had enough of the demented and corrupt Biden, and the bizarre crazy talk and narcissism of Trump. I cannot take either of them. And I won't vote for RFK for a number of reasons.

So...for the umpteenth time in my adult life, I'll end up voting agains the least worst of the lot, not for someone I feel strongly about. And our country keeps going in the wrong direction.

Tank said...

All of your normie friends have no idea what he's talking about. I mean none. I mean they never heard about this at all. They probably think it's another one of his crazy conspiracy theories.

Dave Begley said...

The Kennedys know how to steal elections.

rehajm said...

Dave Begley said...
The Dems have to be furious with CNN.

I wondered about that, too. The best answer is it’s all coordinated and the leftie strategists had a reason for doing it…

rhhardin said...

The part about Trump threatening democracy was left wing hype.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

OT:

FLASHBACK, 2021: DHS Secretary Mayorkas Brags About Rescinding "Too Many Trump Immigration Policies To List"

Witness said...

the twitter files showed that the government was doing this sort of thing 2020, before sleepy dark joe brandon became president, but please keep raving on TV about how censored you are...

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Temujin - 100%

Martin said...

It is terrible that one of the major parties is running a corrupt racist with authoritarian leanings and the other one is running Donald Trump.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Chuck

"he illegally conspired"

No he didn't. He asked questions and hired lawyers. That is not illegal.
The lawyers were all threatened by the corrupt left. you know- your new found nazi democratical pals on the racial left.

Kai Akker said...

Why does it take someone named Kennedy for the media to report even just a little bit of the obvious?

Aggie said...

The push now, from the Legacy Mainstream Progressive Media, will be to attenuate every RFK Jr story as far as possible, using every editing and interviewing disingenuity, to portray RFK Jr as a nut, an unstable nut with wacky and untenable ideas and a questionable history - to make Biden look like a Moderate. Although he has many leftist ideas, I think he won't be portrayed as a leftist. I bet they'll even answer that they've withheld SS protection because he's an unserious and questionable candidate - but they'll only say that if confronted.

Dave Begley said...

Super interesting interview just now with Bobby on Fox & Friends. And, yes, Bobby doesn’t have Secret Service protection right now.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Chuck - we all know the corrupt lying lair left cheat and lie.
why would an election and voting be any different. It's just Chicago - spread like a cancer to every reach of the left's corrupt testicles.
Honest counting takes very little time.
Funny how much time is needed by the liar left to count the votes. then it's "shut up - or else"

Is it illegal to say the left are cheaters and liars? should I get a visit by the FEDS?

Mr. Majestyk said...

LLeft Bank quibbles that Biden was not the "first" president to censor his political opponent because the "federal government " started doing it in 2020, according to RFK Jr.'s own complaint. I am glad to see Left Bank acknowledge that the government was engaged in political censorship. The more people who recognize that the better. But a quibble of my own. The censorship may have started in 2020 under Trump, but it certainly was not at Trump's direction, nor was it targeting his political opponents. On the contrary, it was targeting the speech of conservatives, and upon entering office the Biden administration put it into overdrive.

Old and slow said...

Blogger Chuck said...
"I am not going to even countenance any argument..."

Chuck, do you have any idea just what a prissy little bitch you present yourself as? If changing minds is one of your goals, you ought to consider adopting a new persona. Try to avoid the lonejustice/Rich templates, they aren't working either.

Old and slow said...

Dave Begley said...
"The Kennedys know how to steal elections."

His arguments would be more powerful if he started with this line.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

D D Driver--

So? Trump has every right to say what ever the hell he wants. Free speech - bitter leftists.

oh look - here's Hillary claiming the same thing.

"Hillary Clinton dismissed President Trump as an “illegitimate president” and suggested that “he knows” that he stole the 2016 presidential election in a CBS News interview to be aired Sunday."

Amadeus 48 said...

About that 2000 election:
News organizations spent months doing a total recount of the Florida votes, and they never came up with a count that showed that Bush lost. Never. There were plenty of questions raised, but Bush won Florida by a whisker.

gilbar said...

Sydney said...
My only quibble is that Biden wasn’t the first to weaponize the agencies. Obama was first, when he used the IRS to go after opponents.

try Woody Wilson and the Bureau of Investigation

Sebastian said...

"let's all get together — Republicans and Democrats — and fix the election system, so that... we're the exemplary democracy of the world"

One party benefits from election shenanigans, thinks there's nothing to fix, and declares fixes raaccist. Of course Europeans, with solid measures against fraud, laugh at the notion that the American democracy is in any way "exemplary." How come progs want to copy Europe in everything except election integrity? (That, and the level of taxation on everyone, not just "the rich," needed to pay for goodies.)

John henry said...

Does anyone dispute that his uncle Jack stole the 1960 election?

Does he?

Did that "threaten democracy" or was it OK because it kept the evil Nixon out?

Actually grandpa Joe stole it for Jack but same thing.

John Henry

Bob Boyd said...

I think putting Trump back up there for another run is nuts.

I was trying to think of single person I would replace Trump with if I had that magic wand.

Who would it be? [Sighs]

D.D. Driver said...

"Biden is unquestionably a great threat to our freedom. He/they show it daily (by 'they' I mean those actually making policy direction and decisions before having Joe sign off on something.) But that said, I think putting Trump back up there for another run is nuts. He's nuts. Trump is both brilliant and nuts. And frankly, I've had enough of the demented and corrupt Biden, and the bizarre crazy talk and narcissism of Trump."

Voice of reason.

Bob Boyd said...

Left Bank said..."it started under Trump"

It started under Trump against Trump. So what does that tell you?

John henry said...

paying off a woman named Stormy after he schtooped her

Is there any evidence of that? Both have denied it under oath. Neither has been charged with perjury.

So why do you say that?

John Henry

Bob Boyd said...

Erin looks like crap. Is she ill? Physically, I mean.

Lloyd W. Robertson said...

Understandably, Bobby K presents a somewhat golden and misleading picture of the JFK Administration. How did Jack and Bobby react when owners and managers of the steel companies raised prices after the brothers had worked to negotiate an inflation-fighting labor agreement? They certainly threatened the use of federal agencies to make the steel guys change their decisions.

I googled: has any Pres other than Obama and Biden threatened the Supreme Court with "remedial" political action, using the platform of the SOTU for such threats? Of course the SOTU was not originally delivered as an oration in front of both Houses, the Court, etc. Lincoln campaigned against Dred Scott v. Sanford, and Nixon campaigned against the Warren court, but in both cases they made it clear they sought to change things by democratic action, and eventually changing the makeup of the Court. Obama and Biden may have reached a new low.

Achilles said...

Trump is such a threat to democracy that he and his supporters must be silenced and censored. And jailed. Have their livelihoods destroyed. Guns taken away.

Biden is not the first. That would be Bush and the Patriot Act. The FBI and the CIA have been doing evil shit for decades but the Patriot act was when they started openly spying on every electronic communication we make and the farce of the FISA court was created.

People want to pretend it was Obama that officially weaponized the Patriot Act but we told you dumbfuck Nevertrumps what would happen with the patriot act. Again it was Republicans that have been instrumental in putting us where we are. The constant betrayals and two faced crap is out there too.

None of this changes until the Bush wing is removed from the Republican party.

Patrick Henry was right! said...

Adam's, Hamilton and, to a lesser extent, Madison, all OPPOSED TGE BILL OF RIGHTS!!!! It was Patrick Henry and other anti-Federalists who gave us the Bill of Rights. How can you trust anyone to be President who doesn't know that. Plus, the 2000 election was won by GWB. The Supreme Court stopped the Florida Supreme Court from stealing it.

JAORE said...

"The Kennedys know how to steal elections."

Maybe. But they sure as hell know assassinations.

Larry J said...

The use of government to make corporations to implement their policy has a name. Leftists like to throw the word around when talking about conservatives, but that's just another form of projection. The word is fascism.

fascism /făsh′ĭz″əm/
noun

1. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.

2. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.

3. Oppressive, dictatorial control.

4. A political theory advocating an authoritarian hierarchical government; -- opposed to democracy and liberalism.

5. An authoritarian system of government under absolute control of a single dictator, allowing no political opposition, forcibly suppressing dissent, and rigidly controlling most industrial and economic activities. Such regimes usually try to achieve popularity by a strongly nationalistic appeal, often mixed with racism.

6. Specifically, the Fascist movement led by Benito Mussolini in Italy from 1922 to 1943.

7. Broadly, a tendency toward or support of a strongly authoritarian or dictatorial control of government or other organizations; -- often used pejoratively in this sense.

8. A political regime, having totalitarian aspirations, ideologically based on a relationship between business and the centralized government, business-and-government control of the market place, repression of criticism or opposition, a leader cult and exalting the state and/or religion above individual rights. Originally only applied (usually capitalized) to Benito Mussolini's Italy.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition

Christopher B said...

@Enigma, Obama imported Chicago-style politics to DC. He wasn't naive in the slightest, he's responsible.

Drago said...

LLR-democratical and Violent Homosexual Rage Rape Fantasist Chuck: "I am not going to even countenance any argument..."

LOLxForever!

You can almost hear and smell the gin-soaked "harrumphs!" from Gov Whitmer fanboy Chuckles!

Michael Fitzgerald said...

This guy is a narcissistic asswipe who happens to be correct about a few of the many disastrous mutations of modern American society. Otherwise, he's utter Democrat Party garbage. Don't be cheering for the corn kernels in a pile of shit.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

That's just common sense from RFK Jr. Sometimes he exhibits it, sometimes he doesn't. I think it's humorous that he kind of veers from left to right, zig-zagging through the election season. From "Fauci should be in jail" to "I've picked a lefty activist for veep" to this statement on CNN. Like Trump, and obviously unlike Biden, RFK Jr. is quite an interesting guy with good ideas oftentimes and says interesting things. More straightforward than Trump and with less humor.

I've grown accustomed to his raspy voice and don't mind it so much now. But I'm still voting for the big orange wrecking ball. It's his time.

Kai Akker said...

--- If changing minds is one of your goals

The goal is attention.

John henry said...

try Woody Wilson and the Bureau of Investigation

No. Theodore Roosevelt and his AG Charles Bonaparte founded the Bureau of Investigation.

Specifically to go after political speech.

Over vehement objections from senate and house "we're not Russia" "no place for this in America"

There is still no legislation authorizing the FBI

John Henry

Iman said...

“So how does Biden become the “first” when his complaint makes plain it started under Trump?”

And the lies roll on…

Rusty said...

Please do not interact with the virus known as "Chuck". He's just here to stir shit and destroy this blog. If we ignore him he will eventually leave again.
"Rich" is another bot that needs no interaction.

Iman said...

Happy Tuesday, DeeDee!

Iman said...

Let's do Chuck!
Chuck, Chuck, bo-buck
Bo-na-na fanna, fo-fuck
Fee-fi-mo-muck
Fuck Chuck!

hombre said...

There are dozens of videos of elite Democrats denying elections and the 2020 Floyd riots, sponsored by Democrats, resulted in far greater loss of life, injury and property damage than Jan. 6th. These events are erased from history because without Trump's election denial and Jan. 6th Democrats have to talk about issues.

They still have abortion, but the climate hoax is wearing thin.

It's all about tailoring the conversation to appeal to people who are still foolish enough to consider voting for Biden and Democrats.

RMc said...

What we should be doing is saying let's all get together — Republicans and Democrats — and fix the election system

Which won't happen, since both sides believe they can jigger the broken system better than the other side can. A "clean" election system would put both sides at a disadvantage.

Achilles said...

Bob Boyd said...

I think putting Trump back up there for another run is nuts.

I was trying to think of single person I would replace Trump with if I had that magic wand.

Who would it be? [Sighs]



Pinochet.

D.D. Driver said...

"So? Trump has every right to say what ever the hell he wants. Free speech - bitter leftists."

Yes. He can say whatever he wants and when he says he thinks he can terminate the rules in the Constitution that he does not like, I believe he actually thinks that. And that makes Trump a danger to the Constitution. Anyone who votes for Trump is either a fucking child or an enemy of the Constitution. Biden is a tyrant. Trump is no improvement.

Yancey Ward said...

A valid question:

"So how does Biden become the “first” when his complaint makes plain it started under Trump?"

My answer is that it is basically the same group of people from early 2020 to the present day. The difference is that the Biden Administration is defending it openly, whereas I doubt Trump would have defended the behavior, but I could be wrong- he certainly isn't defending it right now.

Joe Smith said...

He is wrong in the sense that Trump was only questioning the election result, which democrats in the House do every single time a republican wins.

Biden took actions, and specifically empowered the government to censor opponents.

These two things are not the same...

Enigma said...

@Christopher B: Obama imported Chicago-style politics to DC. He wasn't naive in the slightest, he's responsible.

Nope. Obama behaved as if he was struck by a bus when Sarah Palin was chosen as the VP candidate in 2008. After that event, many said that Obama was qualified to be VP and that Biden should have been the presidential candidate instead. He stumbled through several speeches thereafter.

While most recently from Chicago, Obama was the half-white child of an academic anthropologist and an African college student based in Hawaii. The rest of his mother's life was that of a stereotypical compassionate do-gooder lefty academic. He came from a sheltered university culture. These kind of people get the ear of D.C. politicians, but are then run through the meat grinder after the honeymoon is over. The painful challenge of passing Obamacare was that meat grinder.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Dunham

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

the twitter files showed that the government was doing this sort of thing 2020, before sleepy dark joe brandon became president, but please keep raving...

Holy shit. You mean an agency hostile to Trump was doing things hostile to Trump while Trump was still president? The devil you say!

Achilles said...

D.D. Driver said...

"So? Trump has every right to say what ever the hell he wants. Free speech - bitter leftists."

Yes. He can say whatever he wants and when he says he thinks he can terminate the rules in the Constitution that he does not like, I believe he actually thinks that. And that makes Trump a danger to the Constitution. Anyone who votes for Trump is either a fucking child or an enemy of the Constitution. Biden is a tyrant. Trump is no improvement.

Romney Republicans are the smallest and most pathetic political movement in the country.

The combination of snooty snoots and pure stupidity and dishonesty is hilarious.

Rusty said...

D.D. Driver said...
"So? Trump has every right to say what ever the hell he wants. Free speech - bitter leftists."

"Yes. He can say whatever he wants and when he says he thinks he can terminate the rules in the Constitution that he does not like,"

Which ones? Please be specific.

Douglas B. Levene said...

I’m not voting for either Biden or Trump, for good and obvious reasons. If Bobby wasn’t a nutcase about vaccines, I’d vote for him, but he is, so I won’t. It looks like I won’t cast a ballot for president this year, or maybe I’ll write in DeSantis.

MadisonMan said...

I believe he actually thinks that
Consider the possibility that your mind-reading abilities are sub-par.
Especially if you're being influenced by reports from Democratic Propagandists.

D.D. Driver said...

"Which ones? Please be specific."

Not sure. He hasn't said.

https://archive.ph/u0vZk

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

...when he says he thinks he can terminate the rules in the Constitution that he does not like, I believe he actually thinks that...

I don't think he said that. I believe you think he did. Maybe you have proof of him doing so. Maybe you can quote it directly and cite the source. Maybe you even have unedited, un-massaged, un-AI enhanced video of him saying it. But I doubt it. I think this is just another exercise in leftist projection and misinformational mind-reading. And I'm not clicking any unidentified hot links. Pull the quote out. Paste it here for all to see. DuckDuckGo will tell me where I can verify it. But I doubt you can do that.

Go ahead. Change my mind.

PM said...

Nobody with a voice like his can get elected. It's wrong, it's snobby, it's true.

effinayright said...

Patrick Henry was right! said...
Adam's, Hamilton and, to a lesser extent, Madison, all OPPOSED TGE BILL OF RIGHTS!!!! It was Patrick Henry and other anti-Federalists who gave us the Bill of Rights. How can you trust anyone to be President who doesn't know that.
**************

Now, THERE's a crude and brainless position. all three of those Framers thought, for varying reasons, that the Constitution necessarily included the protections of the BOR.

They were NOT against the freedoms and restrictions on government the Bill lays out.

In the end their minds were changed, largely by the states demanding the BOR be added to the Constitution as a condition for its ratification. Distrusting government as they did, they wanted specific restrictions on it.

As for the rhetorical question about trusting a POTUS who doesn't "know" and share your opinion, you obviously have an engorged sense of yourself.

Maynard said...

He can say whatever he wants and when he says he thinks he can terminate the rules in the Constitution that he does not like, I believe he actually thinks that. And that makes Trump a danger to the Constitution.

Is that you, Liz Cheney?

Have your meds kicked in yet? You sound extremely depressed and delusional.

Kevin said...

The chat's response to Chuck, "Who is this person who speaks to us as if we needed his advice?"

tommyesq said...

Left Bank, in typical Troll(D) fashion, says that RFK Jr.’s complaint in his case states that the censorship began in 2020, when Donald Trump was President.

If you actually read the Complaint, however, you would discover that it alleges that "sustained, successful efforts by federal officers to induce social-media platforms to censor speech appear to have begun in 2020. Throughout that year, officers from a variety of federal agencies worked closely, although often clandestinely, with Facebook, Google, and Twitter in an effort to induce, encourage and promote censorship of constitutionally protected speech on those platforms. Because the two most prominent censorship “achievements” of that year—the suppression of the lab-leak theory of COVID’s origins and of reporting about Hunter Biden’s laptop—appear to conflict with the interests of and positions taken by then-President Donald Trump, it is doubtful that the White House was organizing or spearheading these federal censorship efforts. That changed with the election of President Joe Biden."

tommyesq said...

the twitter files showed that the government was doing this sort of thing 2020, before sleepy dark joe brandon became president, but please keep raving on TV about how censored you are...

So according to you, the government has been pushing private entities like Facebook and Twitter to censor material for even longer than Biden has been president, and that somehow makes complaints that we are being censored illegitimate?

Achilles said...

Douglas B. Levene said...

I’m not voting for either Biden or Trump, for good and obvious reasons. If Bobby wasn’t a nutcase about vaccines, I’d vote for him, but he is, so I won’t. It looks like I won’t cast a ballot for president this year, or maybe I’ll write in DeSantis.

Another reminder that the Bush wing republicans are the smallest, dumbest most worthless political group in the country.

Chuck said...

This Politico essay by David Freedlander is such a beautifully written, patient, exacting takedown of Bobby. It's some of the best proof that the best way to defeat Bobby Kennedy is to just let him think and do and say whatever is on his mind. It'll be a train wreck.

Rabel said...

This is the case he's referencing:

"Robert F. Kennedy Jr. won a preliminary injunction against the White House and other federal defendants in his suit alleging government censorship of his statements against vaccines on social media.

The injunction, however, will be stayed until the US Supreme Court rules in a related case brought by Missouri and Louisiana.

An injunction is warranted because Kennedy showed he is likely to succeed on the merits of his claims, Judge Terry A. Doughty of the US District Court for the Western District of Louisiana said Wednesday.

The White House defendants, the Surgeon General defendants, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention defendants, the Federal Bureau of Investigation defendants, and the Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency defendants likely violated the Free Speech Clause of the First Amendment, Doughty said."

However, the SC declined his attempt to participate in the broader case, Murthy v. Missouri, that it is considering so the second part of this - "I can say that because I just won a case in the federal court of appeals — and now before the Supreme Court..." - is misleading.

Alito dissented.

Narr said...

Alien and Sedition Acts, anyone?

The obvious fact now is that the DS doesn't need presidential approval or authority to do as it pleases, when it pleases.

Not even a Trump blowout win in November (I still think he will be neutralized before then) will be more than a speedbump on the expressway to interesting times.

Real American said...

nothing says "Democracy" like throwing your political opponents in jail...

Bushman of the Kohlrabi said...

Biden is the Trump the media is always warning us about.

mikee said...

Obama's DOJ was used (infamously) to investigate and prosecute journalists doing actual journalism. Whoever is running the Biden administration merely continues the policies of his predecessor and expands upon them.

John henry said...

The definition of "democracy" is majority rule. Period. Full stop.

Millions of words have been added, officially, by custom/tradition and just people spouting off about protecting the minority from the majority and so on but it is really just fluff and feathers. I support most of this but don't see it as anything really strong.

For example, if we wanted to repeal the 13th Amendment and reimpose slavery, we could do it in a fully democratic process. All it would take would be a majority vote, in which everyone gets to fully participate with their votes fully counted.

But if the majority, filtered through the various roadblocks, chicanes, supermajorities and so on, decide democratically to repeal 13A and reimpose slavery there is nothing to stop them.

The only protection anyone has under democracy is their fellow man's & woman's better nature. Never rely on this because they may not have one. Apologies to Robert Heinlein.

Democracy scares the crap out of me and for the same reason it scared the crap out of our founding fathers. It is why our constitution works so hard (and well, generally) to limit democracy.

This mantra of all these people bowing down to the golden calf of democracy scares me even more.

Churchill, I think, said that democracy is the worst possible form of government except all others.

The solution is the minimal possible amount of government and that government that is necessary exercised at the lowest possible level. Democratically elected but with as little power as is really required. The Feds should do nothing a state can do, the state nothing that a city or county can do and the city or county nothing that an individual can do.

We've gone way too far in the opposite direction. One of the reasons I like President Emeritus Trump is that he has come closest, though far from close, to putting this philosopy into action.

We need democratic minarchy. MAGA.

John Henry

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Be happy Chuck - Crook above-the-law Husk-puppet Joe will probably win in 2024 -

Old and slow said...

If you choose to vote for no one, you are effectively voting for Biden's handlers, whoever they are.

RoseAnne said...

Achilles said...
Bob Boyd said...

I think putting Trump back up there for another run is nuts.

I was trying to think of single person I would replace Trump with if I had that magic wand.

Who would it be? [Sighs]


Pinochet.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I lived in Chile for 18 months when Pinochet was president. Most people I met knew what Pinochet was about and most of those said he was still better than Allende and previous presidents. The economy was better for the average person under Pinochet in my experience. If you are inclined to believe your government is corrupt regardless, but you can afford groceries and housing, you will take what you can get.

Jim at said...

Anyone who votes for Trump is either a fucking child or an enemy of the Constitution.

Trump 2020: 74,223,975 votes

You're gonna have to yell at lot louder when calling 74.2 million people enemies of the Constitution.

Or, you could go fuck yourself.

Former Illinois resident said...

RFK is right. Biden administration is singlehandedly destroying "democracy" in USA, and trying to strip 1st Amendment rights from us citizens too.

To echo another earlier poster's comment, Trump isn't threatening "democracy", he's threatening to Democrats, particularly those who've violated federal laws and constitution in effort to bolster deep-state Democrats pulling levers of Biden Administration.

Normies recognize both the enactment of overt lawfare against Trump, and see blatant unfairness of that applied lawfare. And those normies identify with Trump because they also feel burden of implicit unfairness encountered in daily life, day-after-day. Turn on the TV, so those border-jumping arriving migrants with their $2,000 EBC cards, costing big cities (taxpayers) upwards $350/day/migrant. Grates on normies' nerves, big time, and they'll vote Trump.

Skeptical Voter said...

Oh those weasels at MSNBC, CNN, the NYT and the WaPoo know what's going on--and they know that RFK JR is correct on this point as to who's the "threat to democracy". The poltroons in the press (but I repeat myself) want to make sure that the Dims go on to "save our democracy" as the Dims know it.

Bruce Hayden said...

“ Trump illegally conspired to overturn the election in any and almost every way that he could.

“Trump has claimed, falsely, that the election had been "stolen" from him. He's made the claim hundreds of times, in a myriad of ways. All false. And all more or less destructive to what should be America's rightful trust in its electoral representative democracy.”

And the evidence continues to emerge that the election was indeed stolen. Out this week, that the Fulton County, GA (Atlanta, county population 1,066,710) ballots were not signature verified in the 2020 election. That made them illegally counted, and the county’s certification illegal. Without their votes, Trump would probably won the state in a landslide. Moreover, the a post certification recount showed a 700-800 vote discrepancy with the certified count. Fulton County was where Republican election judges were evicted rom counting, carts of ballots were then seen carted in through the back, counted, and recounted, swinging the count by hundreds of thousands of votes while Dems were the only ones counting ballots. So keep lying that there is no evidence of Biden having stolen the election.

Testimony: No signature verification on 2020 Fulton County ballots

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Anyone who votes for Biden is either a fucking child, a criminal supporting crap weasel, a conned moron, or an enemy of the Constitution.

Christopher B said...

Enigma said...

These kind of people get the ear of D.C. politicians, but are then run through the meat grinder after the honeymoon is over. The painful challenge of passing Obamacare was that meat grinder.


I see what you are saying but disagree about the timing. I think Obama went through the metamorphosis you are suggesting after he landed in Chicago, discovering that a private school-Columbia-Harvard educated choomer from Hawaii via Indonesia may have been a faculty lounge darling but had no street cred on the South Side. That's when he dumped his multi-ethnic lady friends and found an angry black woman to marry, and learned how to work politics Chicago style by eliminating more powerful politicians from ballots before the election and getting advantageous leaks from divorce settlements.

I don't think Obama had much to do with actually passing Obamacare except in his mind, and I think he was primarily responsible for ticking off the GOP so bad that none of them, not even Murkowski or Collins, would vote for it. Pelosi and Reid twisted all the arms and worked all the deals. Remember that 2010 wasn't supposed to be the Democrat bloodbath 1994 was because, as he said, "you've got me".

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Achilles - you should work for the "please don't vote for Trump" campaign.

Trump breaks promises, steps on his own dick and cannot string 2 adult sentences together. You know- your infallible super hero.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Don't say DeSantis in front of Trump-Humpers.
They get triggered.
The Jeb!, Romney and McCain flashbacks are intense.