The Bar Licensure Task Force found that the traditional exam “disproportionally and unnecessarily blocks” marginalized groups from becoming practicing attorneys ..
There will be three experiential-learning alternatives to the bar exam, each for people following a different path of legal study..
*Law school graduates can complete a six-month apprenticeship while being supervised and guided by a qualified attorney, along with finishing three courses.
*Law students can become practice-ready by completing 12 qualifying skills credits and 500 hours of work as a licensed legal intern. Upon completion of those requirements, they would submit a portfolio of that work to waive the bar exam.
*Lastly, law clerks can become lawyers without enrolling in law school by completing standardized educational materials and benchmarks under the guidance of a mentoring attorney, along with the 500 hours of work as a licensed legal intern.
Washington is the second state to not require the bar exam, following Oregon..
Call me a old fashioned purist. But i was SURE GLAD that MY lawyer had passed the bar exam.. And was a retired county DA.. AND knew the judge in my case.. it made things MUCH more pleasant
"you lawyers might think this is interesting! https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2024/mar/15/supreme-court-bar-exam-will-no-longer-be-required-/ Supreme Court: Bar exam will no longer be required to become attorney in Washington State"
Unless this has changed in recent years, UW and Marquette grads have never had to take the bar to practice in Wisconsin. And if your retaining an attorney based on how he did on the bar exam, you need to re-evaluate the way you're doing business.
I have begun encountering a new sort of automated call handling. In the past, idiot phone systems would read you interminable preliminary messages (IPMs), before dumping you into an idiotically over-simplified decision tree, which might or might not ultimately connect you to a human being. But lately, and I mean very lately, these systems have started becoming more sophisticated, both in their ability to process voice inputs and in the complexity of their decision tree. I strongly suspect that AI is involved. I suggest we call these systems "phonedroids".
I could see a certain advantage to this development, from my point of view, meaning the caller's point of view, in that the sophistication of the calling tree offers a tantalizing glimmer of hope. However, the fundamental problem is that IPM. When you realize, that the phonedroid is hopelessly confused, your best bet is to hang up and, basically, reboot the stupid fucking thing. Better luck next time. But you have to listen to the whole God-awful IPM all over again.
"Call me a old fashioned purist. But i was SURE GLAD that MY lawyer had passed the bar exam.. And was a retired county DA.. AND knew the judge in my case.. it made things MUCH more pleasant."
Well. Actually. I'm not sure I would call you an old-fashioned purist. You sound more like a member in good standing of the Old Boys Network. Yeah, it's nice to know someone. Even nicer to know Someone. But your ability to obtain a desired outcome by virtue of your personal associations is a dubious measure of the quality of a legal system.
There should be civil and criminal suits targeting New York and municipalities for past, present, and progressive selective persecution and defamation brayed in public/ private conspiracies. Drop the diversity (e.g. racism) and focus on equity and inclusion. #RottingApple
I miss Mickey Kaus' blog. Always worth the read, whether it was on cars, immigration or whatever. But he's unreadable on Twitter. All snark, no signal.
oh! did i mention, that Lawyer B (the Bar exam passing County DA), was LITERALLY my cousin? well, 1st cousin once removed.. He took my case as a favor to my mom, and got the charges thrown out
Lem the artificially intelligent said... Leticia James is going to seize Trump Towers and evict Donald Trump and his tenants and…. It’s going to fill up again with illegal aliens.
Why do you make this shit up? So Trump will be evicted from his 30,000 sf penthouse worth more than $200 million? No, Trump lied - the triplex is only 11,000 sf worth $65 million under normal circumstances but less as a fire sale. And no, apartments owned by occupants other than Trump cannot be evicted from their property. But the State of New York is not about to evict rent-paying tenants while the Trump properties are seized and sold. Lienholders will certainly get 1st dibs on the properties.
Trump’s building at 40 Wall Street — under pressure from higher costs and lower occupancy rates — will likely have its mortgage transferred to a special servicer. This is also one of the properties that may go into receivership in NY after Trump’s fraud trial ends - so no residual value after the mortgage lien is paid.
The first photo: “Ours is essentially a tragic age, so we refuse to take it tragically. The cataclysm has happened, we are among the ruins, we start to build up new little habitats, to have new little hopes. It is rather hard work: there is now no smooth road into the future: but we go round, or scramble over the obstacles. We’ve got to live, no matter how many skies have fallen.”
To the extent that businesses are realizing that college degrees don’t mean what they used to mean, I’m fine with the Washington State options on the bar. Except, in this case, I think this will lead to a more casual understanding of law that will devolve into mob justice.
Tom Fitton @TomFitton Thanks to the Chief Justice and the viciously anti-Trump DC courts, Peter Navarro officially becomes a political prisoner tomorrow. 9:24 PM · Mar 18, 2024
I played fairly competitive basketball for 50 years or so, but due to persistent knee issues have "retired". I am curious as to whether the ladies still play with the smaller 28.5 ball. Do college women and the WNBA players use it?
Affirmative Action hire Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson: "So my biggest concern is that your view has the First Amendment hamstringing the government in significant ways in the most important time periods,"
First amendment hamstringing the government? Yes, more please.
“Our sources in the President's Office have revealed that the President's Office will not submit an appeal to the Constitutional Court regarding Zelensky's legitimacy after May 21. It is understood on Bankova Street that according to the law, the Constitutional Court can put an end to the question of Zelensky's legitimacy vacuum to resolve all doubts in society, but they fear receiving a negative response. That's why the President's Office will not appeal to the Constitutional Court until it takes full control over it. Law enforcement officers are already working with each judge from the Constitutional Court to form a majority in favor of the President”
So Zelensky will take his case for clinging to power to the Constitutional Court after he has established full control of it through his law enforcement powers. This is how "our democracy" works, and they are not even ashamed of it. He knows he will be hanged from a lamp post if he loses control.
as i said, more than a year ago.. IF this Ukrainian war is "so important".. What do we do, when the US loses it; like they ALWAYS lose? https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/ukraine-impossible-choice-conceding-territory-or-lives-4f432d75?mod=hp_lead_pos7 Ukraine’s Impossible Choice: Conceding Territory or Lives With military worn down and U.S. aid stalled, leaders confront how to hold off larger and better-equipped Russian army Ukrainian leaders say every inch of territory is worth fighting for, but their military is worn down after a failed counteroffensive last year and with a much-needed additional aid package stuck in Congress. Russia, with a larger army and a war economy clunking into gear, is pressing forward against its smaller neighbor.
so, what NOW? ignore it, and pretend that it was Never "OUR" war? escalate it, and throw in more (and more (AND MORE!)) money and men? hope for a miracle?
i'm guessing that the words Ukraine War will (HAVE) disappeared from our government's mouths
@gadfly Trump’s building at 40 Wall Street — under pressure from higher costs and lower occupancy rates — will likely have its mortgage transferred to a special servicer. This is also one of the properties that may go into receivership in NY after Trump’s fraud trial ends - so no residual value after the mortgage lien is paid.
And here is NY's blind rage and its course toward a Pyrrhic victory with Trump. Real estate is always a trendy, moody, bubble-prone asset class. It can be a money-maker or a costly money-losing millstone around the ankles. That's what leveraged buying gets you. It rises when interest rates fall and when speculators (read: second-home buyers, clueless young couples, Zillow.com, hedge funds, etc.) get free government money or randomly rotate onto buildings instead of tulip bulbs or e-Commerce or Bitcoin or gold or EVs or potash or Web 2.0, or, or...
With the rise of remote work there's a VERY real chance that office real estate that was once quite valuable isn't ever coming back (i.e., tear it down and rebuild now). Real estate is not different than selling ever-depreciating cars, or the routine pump-and-dump of Wall St. with every new tech firm. It's always legal and fair, as buyers place their bets and take their chances. Anyone wanna buy WeWork? How about Zoom? How about some Peloton? These were hot stocks a few years back. Good faith today is fraud and foolishness tomorrow.
The COVID lockdowns and bullying in NY, California, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Austria, etc. revealed totalitarian practices and the absence of pragmatic thought in many regional governments. This Trump stuff confirms that evidence, and indicates that investors should stay far away from these places for a generation or more. All were hoisted on their own petards.
As he should, since Snuffy is a Progressive activist pretending to be a news anchor who is spewing misinformation daily and gets away with it. Where is his reprimand from ABC NEWs bosses?? Oh, that's right. They are the hags of The View. (at this point, what difference does it make?)
Late to the sunrise. Those are superb and sublime.
In early America, almost no lawyers had gone to law school. Most became lawyers by essentially apprenticing to an established practitioner for a number of years, and reading the law books.
Neither Jackson nor Lincoln, to name two successful lawyers, ever set foot in a college, much less a law school.
Gadfly squeaked, ""Why do you make this shit up? So Trump will be evicted from his 30,000 sf penthouse worth more than $200 million? No, Trump lied - the triplex is only 11,000 sf worth $65 million under normal circumstances but less as a fire sale. " You ahve no idea what it's worth. Nor does the person you got this from. Quit lying Gadfly. An independant assessor valued that property at the time of the loan. Not Donald Trump. Now, because Laticia James has put all NYC property owners and developers on notice that they too can be held liable for fraud even though they did their due diligence, they are hesitent to to build r trade out what they do own. Thereby causing values to go down. In a market as volitile as NYC real estate third parties are not appreciated.
Oh look, a scene of the bombing of civilians in the Oscar winning "20 Days in Mariupol" was actually a scene about the Ukrainian indiscriminate shelling of Donbas made years before. You could have knocked me over with a feather when I discovered that the movie was full of lies. Isn't the truth bad enough? If not, then why are we there?
This is the third time in less than a week that 'tim in vermont' has posted (7:17am) an italicized passage that's obviously supposed to be quotation, provided no link, and all three times DuckDuckGo failed to find the 'quoted' words anywhere on the web. He deleted the first instance after I pointed out that it appeared to be false(3rd-to-last comment here). An honest man would have identified his source so we would all know to avoid it in the future, and promised to avoid it himself. And an honest man would have noted this time that elections in wartime are not allowed by the Ukrainian laws and constitution, and could not be done properly when so much of Ukraine is occupied and the Russians bomb every concentration of civilians they can. Here is a sensible article in Foreign Policy explaining why holding elections is "legally and practically unworkable". (Note: I've heard that Britain had no elections during World War II: did that make Churchill a dictator?)
Today's comment (the part after the supposed quotations) is particularly loathsome. He's been whining for months about "freely elected" Yanukovych not finishing his term, and never answers when I ask whether Nixon not finishing his second term was also a "coup". The fact that Yanukovych tried to steal the 2004 election, was accused by his opponent of stealing the 2010 election and had her locked up for his entire term in office, that he acquired a net worth of between $12,000,000,000 and $130,000,000,000 (no one knows for sure) on a salary that never exceeded $2,000 a month, that his riot police murdered over 100 people, and that he fled the country after his own party abandoned him and Parliament voted unanimously against him - all that doesn't matter to 'tim in vermont': he was (sort of, maybe) freely elected, so failing to serve his full term was a gross injustice!
Now 'tim in vermont' gleefully imagines Zelenskyy, who was in fact freely elected by a margin so huge (73%) as to remove all doubt about his legitimacy, being lynched by his own people. You have to be remarkably vile to think such thoughts, and remarkably stupid to reveal them in public.
Of course, Zelenskyy is in no danger of being murdered by Ukrainians, is in fact quite popular as a wartime leader, but he is in great danger of being murdered by Russians. A couple of weeks ago a Russian missile killed five civilians 500 yards from where Zelenskyy and the Greek Prime Minister (Mitsotakis) were speaking. Since then, Greece has shipped a very generous quantity of arms and ammunition to Ukraine: Putin really pissed them off. But not 'tim in vermont'! He's fine with freely elected leaders not finishing their terms in office, even neutral ones like Mitsotakis, as long as they're murdered by Putin, not just exiled.
" oh! did i mention, that Lawyer B (the Bar exam passing County DA), was LITERALLY my cousin? well, 1st cousin once removed.. He took my case as a favor to my mom, and got the charges thrown out"
So after all this, turns out that the main criteria for gilbar's choice of a lawyer was that he did the case for free. Forget about how he did on the bar Exam. Was your cousin named 'Vinny"?
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43 comments:
you lawyers might think this is interesting!
https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2024/mar/15/supreme-court-bar-exam-will-no-longer-be-required-/
Supreme Court: Bar exam will no longer be required to become attorney in Washington State
The Bar Licensure Task Force found that the traditional exam “disproportionally and unnecessarily blocks” marginalized groups from becoming practicing attorneys ..
There will be three experiential-learning alternatives to the bar exam, each for people following a different path of legal study..
*Law school graduates can complete a six-month apprenticeship while being supervised and guided by a qualified attorney, along with finishing three courses.
*Law students can become practice-ready by completing 12 qualifying skills credits and 500 hours of work as a licensed legal intern. Upon completion of those requirements, they would submit a portfolio of that work to waive the bar exam.
*Lastly, law clerks can become lawyers without enrolling in law school by completing standardized educational materials and benchmarks under the guidance of a mentoring attorney, along with the 500 hours of work as a licensed legal intern.
Washington is the second state to not require the bar exam, following Oregon..
Call me a old fashioned purist. But i was SURE GLAD that MY lawyer had passed the bar exam..
And was a retired county DA..
AND knew the judge in my case.. it made things MUCH more pleasant
Johnny Carson on Joe Biden, 40 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En-ERYk3a2k
Some things never change.
#Boeing Whistleblower Didn’t Kill Himself
Suspicious deaths appear to be the norm.
gilbar said...
"you lawyers might think this is interesting!
https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2024/mar/15/supreme-court-bar-exam-will-no-longer-be-required-/
Supreme Court: Bar exam will no longer be required to become attorney in Washington State"
Unless this has changed in recent years, UW and Marquette grads have never had to take the bar to practice in Wisconsin.
And if your retaining an attorney based on how he did on the bar exam, you need to re-evaluate the way you're doing business.
Leticia James is going to seize Trump Towers and evict Donald Trump and his tenants and…. It’s going to fill up again with illegal aliens.
What would you do to Donald Trump if you had all the power given to you by a government that hated the man you are targeting?
Imagen the worst, that way whatever happens, hopefully will pale in comparison.
Call it my sanity mechanism.
Wow. That is really something.
I have begun encountering a new sort of automated call handling. In the past, idiot phone systems would read you interminable preliminary messages (IPMs), before dumping you into an idiotically over-simplified decision tree, which might or might not ultimately connect you to a human being. But lately, and I mean very lately, these systems have started becoming more sophisticated, both in their ability to process voice inputs and in the complexity of their decision tree. I strongly suspect that AI is involved. I suggest we call these systems "phonedroids".
I could see a certain advantage to this development, from my point of view, meaning the caller's point of view, in that the sophistication of the calling tree offers a tantalizing glimmer of hope. However, the fundamental problem is that IPM. When you realize, that the phonedroid is hopelessly confused, your best bet is to hang up and, basically, reboot the stupid fucking thing. Better luck next time. But you have to listen to the whole God-awful IPM all over again.
"Call me a old fashioned purist. But i was SURE GLAD that MY lawyer had passed the bar exam..
And was a retired county DA..
AND knew the judge in my case.. it made things MUCH more pleasant."
Well. Actually. I'm not sure I would call you an old-fashioned purist. You sound more like a member in good standing of the Old Boys Network. Yeah, it's nice to know someone. Even nicer to know Someone. But your ability to obtain a desired outcome by virtue of your personal associations is a dubious measure of the quality of a legal system.
There should be civil and criminal suits targeting New York and municipalities for past, present, and progressive selective persecution and defamation brayed in public/ private conspiracies. Drop the diversity (e.g. racism) and focus on equity and inclusion. #RottingApple
well, Mutaman AND Jupiter?
I'd have to ask you both..
If you had to choose, between two lawyers;
Lawyer A, that became a lawyer "without enrolling in law school by completing standardized educational materials"
or..
Lawyer B, that passed the Bar Exam, had been a Country DA, and knew the judge on your case..
which would YOU pick? I'll wait
I miss Mickey Kaus' blog. Always worth the read, whether it was on cars, immigration or whatever. But he's unreadable on Twitter. All snark, no signal.
oh! did i mention, that Lawyer B (the Bar exam passing County DA), was LITERALLY my cousin?
well, 1st cousin once removed.. He took my case as a favor to my mom, and got the charges thrown out
(sorry!)
took the case as a favor to my mom, and did my case (i guess) pro bono? Free of Charge, anyway
@Althouse, I wonder whether the atmospheric conditions that led to the second picture are related to what Constantine saw in the year 312.
Very beautiful, hopefully a sign of the times to come.
'Washington is the second state to not require the bar exam, following Oregon..'
Stands to reason. Liberals are already telling us that blacks are too dumb to get ID...
Lem the artificially intelligent said...
Leticia James is going to seize Trump Towers and evict Donald Trump and his tenants and…. It’s going to fill up again with illegal aliens.
Why do you make this shit up? So Trump will be evicted from his 30,000 sf penthouse worth more than $200 million? No, Trump lied - the triplex is only 11,000 sf worth $65 million under normal circumstances but less as a fire sale. And no, apartments owned by occupants other than Trump cannot be evicted from their property. But the State of New York is not about to evict rent-paying tenants while the Trump properties are seized and sold. Lienholders will certainly get 1st dibs on the properties.
Trump’s building at 40 Wall Street — under pressure from higher costs and lower occupancy rates — will likely have its mortgage transferred to a special servicer. This is also one of the properties that may go into receivership in NY after Trump’s fraud trial ends - so no residual value after the mortgage lien is paid.
The first photo:
“Ours is essentially a tragic age, so we refuse to take it tragically. The cataclysm has happened, we are among the ruins, we start to build up new little habitats, to have new little hopes. It is rather hard work: there is now no smooth road into the future: but we go round, or scramble over the obstacles. We’ve got to live, no matter how many skies have fallen.”
Wow, that is amazing!!!
This truthful comic could go to both your bloodbath and comic posts.
https://www.gocomics.com/stevekelley/2024/03/18
I never understood the allure of expensive watches, but I had at least assumed that people were paying cash for them.
https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/did-used-rolex-watch-market-finally-bottom
"#Boeing Whistleblower Didn’t Kill Himself"
It's right out of the movie Grosse Pointe Blank, which is a pretty good, and funny, movie.
To the extent that businesses are realizing that college degrees don’t mean what they used to mean, I’m fine with the Washington State options on the bar. Except, in this case, I think this will lead to a more casual understanding of law that will devolve into mob justice.
Happening today...
Tom Fitton
@TomFitton
Thanks to the Chief Justice and the viciously anti-Trump DC courts, Peter Navarro officially becomes a political prisoner tomorrow.
9:24 PM · Mar 18, 2024
I played fairly competitive basketball for 50 years or so, but due to persistent knee issues have "retired". I am curious as to whether the ladies still play with the smaller 28.5 ball. Do college women and the WNBA players use it?
Affirmative Action hire Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson: "So my biggest concern is that your view has the First Amendment hamstringing the government in significant ways in the most important time periods,"
First amendment hamstringing the government? Yes, more please.
I miss him every single day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuzm7GtGXFo
This morning I'm wondering who Mr. Begley has in his Final Four.
“Our sources in the President's Office have revealed that the President's Office will not submit an appeal to the Constitutional Court regarding Zelensky's legitimacy after May 21. It is understood on Bankova Street that according to the law, the Constitutional Court can put an end to the question of Zelensky's legitimacy vacuum to resolve all doubts in society, but they fear receiving a negative response. That's why the President's Office will not appeal to the Constitutional Court until it takes full control over it. Law enforcement officers are already working with each judge from the Constitutional Court to form a majority in favor of the President”
So Zelensky will take his case for clinging to power to the Constitutional Court after he has established full control of it through his law enforcement powers. This is how "our democracy" works, and they are not even ashamed of it. He knows he will be hanged from a lamp post if he loses control.
Photo #2: And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light. God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness.
as i said, more than a year ago..
IF this Ukrainian war is "so important".. What do we do, when the US loses it; like they ALWAYS lose?
https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/ukraine-impossible-choice-conceding-territory-or-lives-4f432d75?mod=hp_lead_pos7
Ukraine’s Impossible Choice: Conceding Territory or Lives
With military worn down and U.S. aid stalled, leaders confront how to hold off larger and better-equipped Russian army
Ukrainian leaders say every inch of territory is worth fighting for, but their military is worn down after a failed counteroffensive last year and with a much-needed additional aid package stuck in Congress. Russia, with a larger army and a war economy clunking into gear, is pressing forward against its smaller neighbor.
so, what NOW?
ignore it, and pretend that it was Never "OUR" war?
escalate it, and throw in more (and more (AND MORE!)) money and men?
hope for a miracle?
i'm guessing that the words Ukraine War will (HAVE) disappeared from our government's mouths
No acculturation processes...
https://www.frontpagemag.com/broken-in-what-way/
@gadfly Trump’s building at 40 Wall Street — under pressure from higher costs and lower occupancy rates — will likely have its mortgage transferred to a special servicer. This is also one of the properties that may go into receivership in NY after Trump’s fraud trial ends - so no residual value after the mortgage lien is paid.
And here is NY's blind rage and its course toward a Pyrrhic victory with Trump. Real estate is always a trendy, moody, bubble-prone asset class. It can be a money-maker or a costly money-losing millstone around the ankles. That's what leveraged buying gets you. It rises when interest rates fall and when speculators (read: second-home buyers, clueless young couples, Zillow.com, hedge funds, etc.) get free government money or randomly rotate onto buildings instead of tulip bulbs or e-Commerce or Bitcoin or gold or EVs or potash or Web 2.0, or, or...
See California's rollercoaster valuation history:
https://www.housingalerts.com/uploads/images/HA-Tools-Summary-Market-Scoring-Report-RE-Cycles.jpg
With the rise of remote work there's a VERY real chance that office real estate that was once quite valuable isn't ever coming back (i.e., tear it down and rebuild now). Real estate is not different than selling ever-depreciating cars, or the routine pump-and-dump of Wall St. with every new tech firm. It's always legal and fair, as buyers place their bets and take their chances. Anyone wanna buy WeWork? How about Zoom? How about some Peloton? These were hot stocks a few years back. Good faith today is fraud and foolishness tomorrow.
The COVID lockdowns and bullying in NY, California, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Austria, etc. revealed totalitarian practices and the absence of pragmatic thought in many regional governments. This Trump stuff confirms that evidence, and indicates that investors should stay far away from these places for a generation or more. All were hoisted on their own petards.
As he should, since Snuffy is a Progressive activist pretending to be a news anchor who is spewing misinformation daily and gets away with it. Where is his reprimand from ABC NEWs bosses?? Oh, that's right. They are the hags of The View. (at this point, what difference does it make?)
Forgot the link..
https://nypost.com/2024/03/19/us-news/trump-sues-abc-george-george-stephanopoulos-for-defamation-after-host-accused-him-of-rape-in-mace-interview/
Late to the sunrise. Those are superb and sublime.
In early America, almost no lawyers had gone to law school. Most became lawyers by essentially apprenticing to an established practitioner for a number of years, and reading the law books.
Neither Jackson nor Lincoln, to name two successful lawyers, ever set foot in a college, much less a law school.
Bottom photo. Very nice. We rarely get big cloud banks in the east for the sun to rise behind.
Gadfly squeaked,
""Why do you make this shit up? So Trump will be evicted from his 30,000 sf penthouse worth more than $200 million? No, Trump lied - the triplex is only 11,000 sf worth $65 million under normal circumstances but less as a fire sale. "
You ahve no idea what it's worth. Nor does the person you got this from. Quit lying Gadfly. An independant assessor valued that property at the time of the loan. Not Donald Trump.
Now, because Laticia James has put all NYC property owners and developers on notice that they too can be held liable for fraud even though they did their due diligence, they are hesitent to to build r trade out what they do own. Thereby causing values to go down. In a market as volitile as NYC real estate third parties are not appreciated.
Oh look, a scene of the bombing of civilians in the Oscar winning "20 Days in Mariupol" was actually a scene about the Ukrainian indiscriminate shelling of Donbas made years before. You could have knocked me over with a feather when I discovered that the movie was full of lies. Isn't the truth bad enough? If not, then why are we there?
https://twitter.com/TomatkaP/status/1769890073200206061
This is taking the "Every accusation is a confession" trope too far.
This is the third time in less than a week that 'tim in vermont' has posted (7:17am) an italicized passage that's obviously supposed to be quotation, provided no link, and all three times DuckDuckGo failed to find the 'quoted' words anywhere on the web. He deleted the first instance after I pointed out that it appeared to be false(3rd-to-last comment here). An honest man would have identified his source so we would all know to avoid it in the future, and promised to avoid it himself. And an honest man would have noted this time that elections in wartime are not allowed by the Ukrainian laws and constitution, and could not be done properly when so much of Ukraine is occupied and the Russians bomb every concentration of civilians they can. Here is a sensible article in Foreign Policy explaining why holding elections is "legally and practically unworkable". (Note: I've heard that Britain had no elections during World War II: did that make Churchill a dictator?)
Today's comment (the part after the supposed quotations) is particularly loathsome. He's been whining for months about "freely elected" Yanukovych not finishing his term, and never answers when I ask whether Nixon not finishing his second term was also a "coup". The fact that Yanukovych tried to steal the 2004 election, was accused by his opponent of stealing the 2010 election and had her locked up for his entire term in office, that he acquired a net worth of between $12,000,000,000 and $130,000,000,000 (no one knows for sure) on a salary that never exceeded $2,000 a month, that his riot police murdered over 100 people, and that he fled the country after his own party abandoned him and Parliament voted unanimously against him - all that doesn't matter to 'tim in vermont': he was (sort of, maybe) freely elected, so failing to serve his full term was a gross injustice!
Now 'tim in vermont' gleefully imagines Zelenskyy, who was in fact freely elected by a margin so huge (73%) as to remove all doubt about his legitimacy, being lynched by his own people. You have to be remarkably vile to think such thoughts, and remarkably stupid to reveal them in public.
Of course, Zelenskyy is in no danger of being murdered by Ukrainians, is in fact quite popular as a wartime leader, but he is in great danger of being murdered by Russians. A couple of weeks ago a Russian missile killed five civilians 500 yards from where Zelenskyy and the Greek Prime Minister (Mitsotakis) were speaking. Since then, Greece has shipped a very generous quantity of arms and ammunition to Ukraine: Putin really pissed them off. But not 'tim in vermont'! He's fine with freely elected leaders not finishing their terms in office, even neutral ones like Mitsotakis, as long as they're murdered by Putin, not just exiled.
gilbar said...
" which would YOU pick? I'll wait"
The one who charged the lowest retainer.
gilbar said...
" oh! did i mention, that Lawyer B (the Bar exam passing County DA), was LITERALLY my cousin?
well, 1st cousin once removed.. He took my case as a favor to my mom, and got the charges thrown out"
So after all this, turns out that the main criteria for gilbar's choice of a lawyer was that he did the case for free. Forget about how he did on the bar Exam.
Was your cousin named 'Vinny"?
please TRY to keep up
the fact that he was free was just gravy..
The fact that he got ALL the charges dropped was the point
but YEAH, now that the Cousin Vinny movie came out, i *DO* think it's funny that my lawyer was my cousin.
Mutaman? What's the worst thing that you did, that you got removed from Your record?
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