That's from Memeorandum's display of current headlines.
Read more about Trump's Bible, here, at Axios. Oh! I see Trump isn't raising money: "None of the money garnered from the Bible will go toward Trump's presidential campaign, the website states."
He's not raising money. He's not even garnering money. That's Axios paraphrasing the website. What the website says is that it "is not political and has nothing to do with any political campaign." And:
"GodBlessTheUSABible.com is not owned, managed or controlled by Donald J. Trump, The Trump Organization, CIC Ventures LLC or any of their respective principals or affiliates. GodBlessTheUSABible.com uses Donald J. Trump’s name, likeness and image under paid license from CIC Ventures LLC, which license may be terminated or revoked according to its terms."
Seems to me Trump gets money in that deal and he can use his own money to pay for his campaign. Perhaps campaign finance law is a trap, and Trump is falling into it. The FEC website says that the full price of campaign merchandise counts as a contribution.
Funny sentence from the Bible-selling website: "This bible has been designed so that it delivers an easy reading experience in the trusted King James Version translation."
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"God Bless the USA Bible" is the most cringe thing ever, but it is getting Trump lots of free publicity and if the money goes to a good cause (where is it going?), then he gets a second round of digs against a media every good person hates and wants to see disgraced.
Fascists hate 2 things: Freedom and Christianity. That is why the worst villains in history are atheists.
You don't have to be a Protestant Christian to recognize that the best social contracts in the world are derived in societies based on protestant Christianity. That is why it is enemy #1 for progs and leftists.
Throwing enemies in prison, killing them, and taking their stuff is what they do and people who oppose that are enemies.
Free advertising. Watch for the bills to be created that enable the government to classify these things as 'campaign advertising', and attach their own special financial value to it as 'fund-raising', that coincidentally makes what Trump is doing, illegal. Bonus: Illegal in 2016 and 2020, too, but only in certain states like NY - just for a capper.
Sorry (I know I am sick) but I love this FAQ title!
WHAT IF MY BIBLE HAS STICKY PAGES?
The details make sense:
Are some of the pages in your Bibles sticking together? No worries, this is very common with new Bibles that have gold gilding around the edges of the paper. For your convenience, we have provided links to a Youtube video that does a wonderful job of explaining how to break your new Bible in.
Nothing new under the sun.
Leftists hate all spirituality and religious people - because the left see themselves and the one true god.
and = as.
Not only are they raising awareness of this buyable item, they are displaying their own disgust — if not horror — at the sacred object.
Raising awareness? Not among any potential customers. They're serving it up as the risible ploy that it is to an audience that finds schadenfreude in rubes getting screwed. If there's any disgust -- if not horror -- it comes from the idea that anyone would exploit a sacred object so crassly.
Found in about 30 seconds...
IS ANY OF THE MONEY FROM THIS BIBLE GOING TO THE DONALD J. TRUMP CAMPAIGN FOR PRESIDENT?
No, GodBlessTheUSABible.com is not political and has nothing to do with any political campaign. GodBlessTheUSABible.com is not owned, managed or controlled by Donald J. Trump, The Trump Organization, CIC Ventures LLC or any of their respective principals or affiliates.
GodBlessTheUSABible.com uses Donald J. Trump’s name, likeness and image under paid license from CIC Ventures LLC, which license may be terminated or revoked according to its terms.
Do you need more proof that Trump is a really funny guy?
One of the questions in the FAQ section of the Trump Bible website:
"What if my Bible has sticky pages?"
A Trump Bible now on sale? Hold on, April Fools is next week.
I’ve not seen any indication that evangelicals actually practice what they preach. They merely posture as highly moral while their actions speak of their moral depravity.
Much like the politicians they support.
btw- another young police officer with a wife and a child, was shot and killed in NYC.
By someone who was arrested 21 times.
F the left.
The King James Version is not easy to read and it is not the most accurate translation. The New International Version or the English Standard Version are better alternatives, taking into account centuries of manuscript and language research that was not available when the KJV appeared in 1611. Of course many prefer the KJV for traditional reasons.
This Bible is using a Protestant translation which is what is meant by the "King James Version." But a further point is that there are issues with many modern translations, both Catholic and Protestant. These translations slip in language whose purpose is to effectively deny Christ's divinity or to so shape the Bible's language as to achieve some other anti-Christian purpose. At times, it seems easier to stay with an older translation, a "trusted" translation which has not been affected by nineteenth century/ twentieth century secularism. Another way is to study the Bible with a trusted scholar like Scott Hahn so as to be aware of tricky points and tricksters while using a modern translation.
It's disgusting that Trump would do something as sleazy as take money from corporations to endorse a product. He should do the dignified thing, which is take money to give a twenty minute speech to corporate fat cats who dont bother pretending to care, along with no show corporate governance board jobs and insider stock tips.
NBC Rich -
You know nothing about the Christian community... Nothing.
Your only mindless Q's are standard issue boilerplate hivemind BS you are fed from places like NPR, The Nation, Mother Jones, NBC and the rest of the bigoted white left.
Do tell us all about Hispanics and Blacks, and their Christian faith. Go on NBC Rich - expert leftist hiveminder. Do it.
As far as hypocrites go - and non-moral behavior - it resides mostly on the corrupt hivemind Maddow lying liar who lie - left.
"Sorry (I know I am sick) but I love this FAQ title!/'WHAT IF MY BIBLE HAS STICKY PAGES?'"
LOL. I saw that too and had the same reaction.
"Oh, my God, the pages are stuck together!"
LLR-democratical Rich: "I’ve not seen any indication that evangelicals actually practice what they preach. They merely posture as highly moral while their actions speak of their moral depravity."
LOL
Read that again and let the abject ignorance and adolescent hatred wash over you.
The Holy Bible as brought to you by a serial adulterer and the guy who paid hush money to porn stars. Grab 'em by their righteous pussies!
The King James Bible is a perfect fit for DJT. it’s really Wm Tyndale’s translation reissued by King James. Tyndale was from the border area with Wales as was Shakespeare. And the writings by those two men co-created the English language we use.
For his efforts Tyndall was hunted down and murdered. He was a Protestant in the original sense of that brand being that he protested being hunted down and murdered. So DJT as many Americans identifies with Tyndale who risked his life for spreading the Truth.
For like the crackling of thorns under a pot,
So is the laughter of the fool.
This also is vanity.
Ecclesiastes 7:6
Anti-Christian bigotry streams from the White left and is a UNIVERSAL WHITE LEFT phenomenon.
What pisses the left off is that we (helped along by DJT) are no longer following the patterns that leftists believed we would always follow. For too long they took us for granted. That we would turn the other cheek. That we would always just stand there and take whatever they threw at us. That we would always behave civilly in the face of their disgusting behavior towards us.
That's changing. Though not as fast or as drastically as it should.
Rich blathered:"I’ve not seen any indication that evangelicals actually practice what they preach."
You make my day every time you post. When was the Evangelical church you visited? Better to stick to a topic you know something about like 4th trimester abortion, legalizing hard drugs, or no bail for criminals.
The FEC says the full purchase price is considered a campaign donation? what a financially ignorant crew. It should be price net of costs that is the donation. Sheesh.
If the big guy gets 10% of the sale of Hunter's paintings then he pays taxes on 10% of the price minus materials, labor, and marketing costs. But if the 10% is a campaign donation he pays no tax but must report a campaign donation for 10% of gross. So stupid.
Rich said...
A Trump Bible now on sale? Hold on, April Fools is next week.
I’ve not seen any indication that evangelicals actually practice what they preach. They merely posture as highly moral while their actions speak of their moral depravity.
Much like the politicians they support.
Perfect example of a stupid fascist pawn.
People like this have no self awareness. They don't realize just how stupid, ignorant and obviously hypocritical they look.
This person supports Joe Biden and claims people who disagree with him are morally depraved.
Let that sink in.
"Todd said...
Found in about 30 seconds..."
You could have found that even more quickly if you'd just read my post!
D.D. Driver said...
The Holy Bible as brought to you by a serial adulterer and the guy who paid hush money to porn stars. Grab 'em by their righteous pussies!
Are you smart enough to recognize how you use that quote dishonestly?
Please post that quote and the inference that Trump was making. We all know what he said and what he obviously meant.
I would really like to know if you are a room temperature moron or a scumbag.
D.D. Driver said...
“The Holy Bible as brought to you by a serial adulterer and the guy who paid hush money to porn stars. Grab 'em by their righteous pussies!“
Have you ever read the New Testament, D.D.? Spoiler alert: Turns out He didn’t come to save saints like you and Hillary but to save deplorable sinners like me and Trump.
I'm not surprised the Trump team selected the King James Version: It's public domain and there's no licensing or royalties involved.
They merely posture as highly moral while their actions speak of their moral depravity.
Rich, jumping on the long JUDGY Train.
Rich, what are your credentials that puts you in a place to judge others faith, and their practice of it?
Not Christian by any sense. "judge not, lest yee be judged" "Caste not the first stone" "Turn the other cheek"
My fathers take 'jack of all trades. Master on none'
Meade's lesson, is well delivered, and salient.
@Meade
LOL. Sure have. Cover to cover. Did you read the stuff in John 2:16? Go check it out and report back. 😘
Rich, I would encourage to go with Samaritan's Purse when they go to a disaster area. Chat with Franklin Graham and if you get a chance, ask him where their donations come from.
As an aside, I can tell you becoming saved by the blood of Jesus turned my life around. It is a guarantee I would have long been dead from alcoholism.
D.D. Driver: "The Holy Bible as brought to you by a serial adulterer and the guy who paid hush money to porn stars. Grab 'em by their righteous pussies!"
D.D. Driver will never forgive Christ for associating with sinners.
"For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”
(Matthew 9:13). Jesus ate with sinners because they were the ones he was sent to save.
D.D. Driver demands a rewrite!
Meanwhile the DNC is one step closer to publishing and selling a commemorative version of the Koran.
For a long time, Christians enjoyed a duality between mainstream Republican policy and orthodox Christian morals, resulting in a coincidental overlap with Christian belief and political power. This lasted for long enough that many Christians have come to believe that access to political power is a default position, when it is in fact an exception, and further, something that Jesus never strived for himself.
Now, as the Republican party drifts from orthodox Christian values, many Christians, used to political power, are choosing to cling to power instead of orthodoxy. Why is that? Primarily, this reflects a cultural ideology around control and agency as the source of happiness and self-actualization. However, this is also counter to the invitation of surrender and obedience to God.
So, in general, Christians in support of Trump have lost political influence, and are clinging to what's left of that influence with white knuckle grips by supporting someone not aligned with their own beliefs, because they unconsciously believe (along with the rest of society) that being in control is where safety and security comes from, instead of relying on God as the source of safety and security.
"Raising awareness? Not among any potential customers. They're serving it up as the risible ploy that it is to an audience that finds schadenfreude in rubes getting screwed. If there's any disgust -- if not horror -- it comes from the idea that anyone would exploit a sacred object so crassly."
The above is what someone with his head up his ass would write. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, Wordsmith, but the people who would buy this product are exposed to the stories written about it. Anything in the mainstream media is exposure of the subject to the "rubes" you denigrate. Just because you live in an informational bubble doesn't mean everyone else lives in a different one- we all live in the vast mainstream media bubble whether our politics are to the right or left.
"The Holy Bible as brought to you by a serial adulterer and the guy who paid hush money to porn stars. Grab 'em by their righteous pussies!"
A classic of badinage:
The story goes that Evelyn Waugh was once very rude to someone and his hostess Nancy Mitford asked him: “How can you behave so badly – and you a Catholic!” Waugh replied: “You have no idea how much nastier I would be if I was not a Catholic. Without supernatural aid I would hardly be a human being.”
Ann Althouse said...
You could have found that even more quickly if you'd just read my post!
3/27/24, 10:30 AM
Quite true but I was referring to the difficulty of finding the information on the web site that the "news" sources would have (should have?) viewed prior to their postings of the information. Could have saved some misleading titles/content, unless they knew that and the mistake was the point...
D.D. Driver said...
Another sanhedrin heard from.
We all got a shot, D.D.. Trump, you, me.
Please open your God Bless the USA Bible to Isaiah 24 and read with me:
17 Fear, and the pit, and the snare, are upon thee, O inhabitant of the earth.
18 And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the snare: for the windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth do shake.
19 The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly.
20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.
21 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.
Meade said...
D.D. Driver said...
“The Holy Bible as brought to you by a serial adulterer and the guy who paid hush money to porn stars. Grab 'em by their righteous pussies!“
Have you ever read the New Testament, D.D.? Spoiler alert: Turns out He didn’t come to save saints like you and Hillary but to save deplorable sinners like me and Trump.
3/27/24, 10:32 AM
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In order to be saved you must seek forgiveness and redemption. When Jesus admonishes the crowd that was going to stone the adulteress he sends her off by telling her to sin no more.
Trump, the poster child for the seven deadly sins, has stated that he does not need the Lord’s forgiveness. By his own admission he is not on the road to redemption and the portrayal of him as a man of God by people who claim to be Christian is puzzling. They are being led astray and it is one of the reasons that I sometimes refer to him as Donald “Wormwood” Trump.
tim maguire said...
"God Bless the USA Bible" is the most cringe thing ever,
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as against "God Damn America" sermon preached to Obama
A Bible with government documents in it. The perfect gift for two Corinthians.
Here in the Bible belt, that thing is pretty offensive.
LLR-democratical Rich: "So, in general, Christians in support of Trump have lost political influence,.."
LOL
Precisely the opposite is true.
Just go to Iowa and ask Steve Deace (if you can get him away from the buffet...non-salad bar side) and Bob Vander Plaats.
Rich pushing transparent laughably false lefty gaslighting lies.
Another day ending in "y".
it comes from the idea that anyone would exploit a sacred object so crassly."
OHH! now I see it. This just like the Gideons are exploiting all those rubes holed up in motel rooms. Speading the word of God to the rubes. How disgusting
Rich said...
For a long time, Christians enjoyed a duality between mainstream Republican policy and orthodox Christian morals, resulting in a coincidental overlap with Christian belief and political power. This lasted for long enough that many Christians have come to believe that access to political power is a default position, when it is in fact an exception, and further, something that Jesus never strived for himself.
People are always negotiating for a better deal in the social contract.
Douchebag atheists like Rich just want Christians to stop opposing them. The obvious lack of self awareness in the above statement is entertaining.
Now, as the Republican party drifts from orthodox Christian values, many Christians, used to political power, are choosing to cling to power instead of orthodoxy. Why is that? Primarily, this reflects a cultural ideology around control and agency as the source of happiness and self-actualization. However, this is also counter to the invitation of surrender and obedience to God.
You obviously have no idea what orthodox Christian values are.
So, in general, Christians in support of Trump have lost political influence, and are clinging to what's left of that influence with white knuckle grips by supporting someone not aligned with their own beliefs, because they unconsciously believe (along with the rest of society) that being in control is where safety and security comes from, instead of relying on God as the source of safety and security.
You are just making things up and pretending you are smarter than you are. This is all garbage.
Trump supporters want our borders defended. Trump supporters want imported goods to be taxed as much as domestically produced goods. Trump supporters want and end to the stupid wars. Trump supporters want to be safe in their communities.
You are just dishonest as well as stupid. You cannot honestly defend the Biden regime or what democrats are doing to this country so you make things up.
Nobody thinks you are smart.
Pastor Rich cuts a fine figure, doesn't he?
Rich will have you know that he once worked with one of the apostles and that they would have been appalled at this bible and Trump's connection to it.
By his own admission he is not on the road to redemption
Hang around AA rooms and you'll find almost universily, refuse to admit they are on the road to redemption. The ones that stay in the rooms all admit the in fact were always on the road.
You know little of faith.
Surprise! It lives and flourishes outside the confines of churches and clergy.
AMDG, the Steve Deace of Althouse blog: "They are being led astray and it is one of the reasons that I sometimes refer to him as Donald “Wormwood” Trump."
You refer to Trump as "Donald “Wormwood” Trump" as part of the DeSantis Wanna Be online influencer operation....which failed magnificently in Iowa...and everywhere else. A case study in failure actually where the foot soldiers shot their own commander in the back with their unbelievably inept and moronic actions.
And by "magnificently" I of course mean disastrously.
Evangelicals in Iowa and elsewhere certainly didn't and don't require lectures from the likes of AMDG and Bob Vander Plaats (DeSantis campaign had $95k routed to Vander Plaat's non-profit crew prior to Vander Plaats formal endorsement) as to what is in their best interests politically and morally.
And they voted accordingly.
As predicted, and repeatedly demonstrated, a certain small subset of DeSantis supporters went around the primary results "bend" and are unable to recover.
AMDG is the Althouse blog "contribution" to this subset garnering leading to blog posts that might as well be a transcript offering from The View or Morning Joe.
“Grab 'em by their righteous pussies!”
You’d better wash your merkin, DeeDee!
AMDG and LLR-democratical Rich ought to set up a Bible study group together...and NOT INVITE TRUMP!
I thought D.D. Driver was going to go with John 3:16.
Most do. It is quite fundamental.
Another stellar example of Cultural Aikido from Mr. Trump. This sort of thing plays out too frequently and predictably to be anything other than deliberate.
He misspells a word in a Tweet (or now on Truth), or says something slightly inflammatory in a speech that can be construed in different ways. His detractors on the left LOSE THEIR FUCKING MINDS and spew venomous Upper West Side/Beltway/Hollywood prattle all over the airwaves and opinion pages and every social media site. Normal people read about it, consider both sides, shake their heads in disgust and disbelief, and presto! Trump gets another 2% bump in the polls.
This one may be his best yet. The bien-pensant Left is going to deliver weeks on end of vituperation about all those unwashed stump-toothed snake-handling superstitious hillbillies out in Jesusland. It will sound like a cacaphony of demons, even to those who don't believe in Hell.
Is it cringeworthy? Of course it is. Is it going to redound to his advantage? Oh hell yes.
"Funny sentence from the Bible-selling website"
I'm curious as to why that's funny. Maybe I'm missing something.
And then there is the parable of the prodigal son in Matthew, with the banger of a coda involving the older, dutiful brother:
"29 And he answering said to his father, Lo, these many years do I serve thee, neither transgressed I at any time thy commandment: and yet thou never gavest me a kid, that I might make merry with my friends: 30 but as soon as this thy son was come, which hath devoured thy living with harlots, thou hast killed for him the fatted calf. 31 And he said unto him, Son, thou art ever with me, and all that I have is thine. 32 It was meet that we should make merry, and be glad: for this thy brother was dead, and is alive again; and was lost, and is found."
"D.D. Driver will never forgive Christ for associating with sinners."
Oh, fuck off! Christ asked us to repent for our sins. Has Trump repented for paying off a porn star? Please show your citations, dipshit.
Did you read the stuff in John 2:16
Meh; personally, I prefer John 3:16.
"Trump, the poster child for the seven deadly sins, has stated that he does not need the Lord’s forgiveness."
🤣😂🤣 That you for that reminder. Trump--a/k/a a "Christian"--literally believes he has nothing he needs Christ's forgiveness for. LOL. He literally said that!
I will remind you that he paid hush money to porn stars!
This is me when all of you fake Christian Trump defenders are burning in hell with Trump and Epstein and the rest of his friends.--->🤣😂🤣
Burn baby, burn!
AMDG, "They are being led astray and it is one of the reasons that I sometimes refer to him as Donald “Wormwood” Trump."
No. Once again you are projecting your own predjudices onto Trump.
He said he was going to do something. And then he proceeded to do it. That's it.
AMDG said...
Meade said...
D.D. Driver said...
“The Holy Bible as brought to you by a serial adulterer and the guy who paid hush money to porn stars. Grab 'em by their righteous pussies!“
Have you ever read the New Testament, D.D.? Spoiler alert: Turns out He didn’t come to save saints like you and Hillary but to save deplorable sinners like me and Trump.
3/27/24, 10:32 AM
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In order to be saved you must seek forgiveness and redemption. When Jesus admonishes the crowd that was going to stone the adulteress he sends her off by telling her to sin no more.
Trump, the poster child for the seven deadly sins, has stated that he does not need the Lord’s forgiveness. By his own admission he is not on the road to redemption and the portrayal of him as a man of God by people who claim to be Christian is puzzling. They are being led astray and it is one of the reasons that I sometimes refer to him as Donald “Wormwood” Trump.
ADMG is just flip side Rich.
Really not much difference on a substantial level between Democrats and NeverTrump Republicans.
"Here in the Bible belt, that thing is pretty offensive."
No it's not. Your dislike of Trump colors everything you contribute here.
I watch ABC News with David Muir. It tells you all the news that George Stephanopoulos wants you to know. There was a short clip, maybe about thirty seconds, of President Biden announcing that the bridge in Baltimore will be rebuilt. It was a short clip. He can look decisive and crisp in brief snatches if they're under sixty seconds and filmed with the right lighting and angle. In that clip, President Biden looked Presidential. Later in the same broadcast, David Muir announced without elaboration that Donald Trump if selling the Bible or sixty dollars....I just don't see how this helps the Trump campaign. It's not Dylan for Bud Light stupid, but how is the Bible part of the Trump brand. I don't get it.
Evangelical born again snake handlers worship the Antichrist just like it predicted in Bible Prophecy. That's why the Trump Traitors love Donnie and hate America. It's their born again sacrament.
Now I get it. This is why Eric Erickson was droning on about how Trump said he “won’t repent.” He apologised to his Trump followers, who listen to his show, but “because he believes in this stuff” he’s got to call it out. “Trump is not saved”, he said.
I was like, who died and made you pope’?
OHH! now I see it. This just like the Gideons are exploiting all those rubes holed up in motel rooms. Speading the word of God to the rubes. How disgusting.
Last I checked the Gideons don't charge for their bibles, although of course they do accept voluntary donations (nor does Marriott get upset if you remove the Book of Mormon from their hotel rooms).
"Seems to me Trump gets money in that deal and he can use his own money to pay for his campaign. Perhaps campaign finance law is a trap, and Trump is falling into it."
This reminds me of the argument that Planned Parenthood uses to claim that no federal money they receive goes to support abortions. They say that they're able to keep the two pools of money legally separate.
How dare Trump acknowledge Holy Week!!
Anyways, ordered up last night.
D.D. Driver said...
"Trump, the poster child for the seven deadly sins, has stated that he does not need the Lord’s forgiveness."
🤣😂🤣 That you for that reminder. Trump--a/k/a a "Christian"--literally believes he has nothing he needs Christ's forgiveness for. LOL. He literally said that!
I will remind you that he paid hush money to porn stars!
This is me when all of you fake Christian Trump defenders are burning in hell with Trump and Epstein and the rest of his friends.--->🤣😂🤣
Burn baby, burn!
The emoji's are a good touch.
You should really read your own post and reflect on how stupid and immature it makes you look.
Howard said...
Evangelical born again snake handlers worship the Antichrist just like it predicted in Bible Prophecy. That's why the Trump Traitors love Donnie and hate America. It's their born again sacrament.
One of the key elements of Fascism is that you must seize moral justifications for your evil actions.
Howard can support censorship and obvious state run propaganda and jailing political opponents because people who disagree with him support the "Antichrist."
The interesting part is that unlike Rich, Howard is smart enough to know what a piece of shit he is acting like and it pops out every now and then. But there is some trauma in his past that prompts him to come out and overcompensate with posts like this. Tribal affiliations are strong.
As someone who grew up in a Southern Baptist household, I always liked, “I read the KJV. If it’s good enough for Jesus, it’s good enough for me.” 😊
Blogger Rusty said...
AMDG, "They are being led astray and it is one of the reasons that I sometimes refer to him as Donald “Wormwood” Trump."
No. Once again you are projecting your own predjudices onto Trump.
He said he was going to do something. And then he proceeded to do it. That's it.
3/27/24, 12:15 PM
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So if Satan himself was able to build a wall and get Me I I to pay for it and eradicate the Deep State you would enthusiastically it’s for him?
Freeman Hunt said...
Here in the Bible belt, that thing is pretty offensive.
To you.
But there just aren't very many of you. That is why Trump got more votes in Iowa than any other Republican in a primary ever.
You should go to a mirror and ask yourself why your morally preen and look down on people who disagree with you.
Get down, m00nbat DeeDee!
Moderator Frank Luntz asked Trump whether he has ever asked God for forgiveness for his actions.
Trump replied:
“I am not sure I have. I just go on and try to do a better job from there. I don’t think so. I think if I do something wrong, I think, I just try and make it right. I don’t bring God into that picture. I don’t.”
I attend a conservative Evangelical Church. I doubt any of the members of the congregation are going to vote for Biden. However, when Trump decides he is going to sell God Bless The USA Bibles, it may be enough for some of them to not vote for Trump. They will still show up at the polls, and they will vote down ticket for all the other national, state, county, and local candidates. But they will leave the Presidential ballot blank.
Mentioning God to a fascist is like feeding garlic to a vampire.
Over-compensating Mon-combat "vet" Howitzer Howard: "Evangelical born again snake handlers worship the Antichrist just like it predicted in Bible Prophecy. That's why the Trump Traitors love Donnie and hate America. It's their born again sacrament."
Howitzer Howard likes to double and triple down on his anti-Christian bigotry because he thinks it will hide the extraordinary cowardice he has demonstrated for years in not offering a single word of criticism towards his 7th Century Death Cult islamic supremacist poitical allies.
Does anyone really believe Howitzer Howard would ever dare utter a word of faith criticism to the face of an islamic supremacist?
LOL
We all know the answer to that. He would keep his little yap shut very tightly until he could skedaddle home and jump online to find a little old lady praying silently outside an abortion clinic to attack!
"Courage"
D.D. Driver: "I will remind you that he paid hush money to porn stars!
This is me when all of you fake Christian Trump defenders are burning in hell with Trump and Epstein and the rest of his friends.--->"
Its important to layer multiple lies in every attack posting when you are a lefty/dem/Psycho NeverTrumper.
But I repeat myself.
Hassayamper: "His detractors on the left LOSE THEIR FUCKING MINDS and spew venomous Upper West Side/Beltway/Hollywood prattle all over the airwaves and opinion pages and every social media site."
It ain't just "the left" that does that, as you can see on this very thread.
I love how Trumpers believe ministering to whores to get them to change their ways is EXACTLY the same as paying whores money so they will suck your cock. Totally the same thing!
I thought D.D. Driver was going to go with John 3:16.
Most do. It is quite fundamental.
Most do at sporting events because monkey see monkey do. But John 2:16 is far more relevant, no?
D.D. Driver: "Oh, fuck off! Christ asked us to repent for our sins. Has Trump repented for paying off a porn star? Please show your citations, dipshit."
I do not know Trump's heart nor mind nor the content of his prayers.
But I know that YOU think YOU do.
That "plank" in your eye is sticking clear thru the back of your head.
And while we are on the subject, where is the "proof" of YOUR repentence? Where are YOUR "citations"?
Come on now! Don't hold back! Wow us with your rectitude!
Though I would caution that your many lies and purposeful mischaracterizations on this blog bodes ill for your in the "bearing false witness" category...
I bought mine!! You can never have too many Bibles. What a great gift for a young person! All the tools for a perfect life!
Anti-Christian bigotry streams from the White left and is a UNIVERSAL WHITE LEFT phenomenon.
Well that explains Rich better than he explains religion. Please tell us, o judger of other men's faith, who are the ones that practice their faith perfectly without exception? Enlighten us Rich, with your positive reviews of those "good" religions now that you have shat on Christians and evangelical ones in particular. Tell us who the righteous ones are.
I'd really like to hear more!
Is Trump saved. I don't know. I can't know. Only God can know that. All I know is that the choice isn't between Trump and a righteous person, its between Trump and Biden. Is Biden morally superior to Trump? I don't see any evidence of that, but even if he was his policies are crap and are killing our nation. Carter seemed to be sincere in his religious believes, but he was still a horrible president. Biden seems to be a figure-head for a cabal of and corrupt oligarchs with beliefs and plans that are antithetical to human dignity and flourishing. Think I will pick Trump.
2 Samuel 12:1-9
Ezra 1:1-4
Nehemiah 2:1-9
For those of you who want to trace the origins of the emergence of the religious right in the US you need to go back to the founders of what we may call 'modern moral philosophy'— namely Nozick, Rawls, Cohen and McIntrye.
Nozick was the spirited (but logically unsuccessful) defender of the minimal state, seeking to give the skittish and tedious poetry of Ayn Rand a decent footing. With some deft footwork he created a moral framework for private property and one which was seen to protect life as property — he failed the exam piece as he was unable to give a reason why the state could tax your property for your protection.
Rawls was the doyen of 1960's economic liberalism - his concept was that moral decisions are made behind a 'veil of ignorance' — we know the outcomes, but we do not know where we end up. This gives a sort of an a priori rationalization as to why we choose welfare transfers — it doesn't stop me becoming very wealthy once beyond the veil, but it does ensure that there is a floor so if I find myself born unlucky I haven't been born into a world without social support. This permeated a lot of Democratic (US) and social-democratic (europe) thinking and is one of the better theories of distributive justice.
Cohen was an unorthodox historian who alongside Roemer and Elster created the analytic Marxist (or no BS Marxism) tradition. Dialectics and the labor theory of value were ditched in favor of demonstrating inequities through methodical individualism. Basically (as I remember it) if everyone was in a field with all the capital that was needed for production, and they could move to another field and having the same capital holdings among the community and inequality fell then a social class (workers) was being exploited.
Finally, there was McIntyre who felt individualism was source of the US malaise and reverting to a communitarian (and Christian) way of life would ameliorate the alienation and immorality of modern life.
"Moderator Frank Luntz asked Trump whether he has ever asked God for forgiveness for his actions.
Trump replied:"
“I am not sure I have. I just go on and try to do a better job from there. I don’t think so. I think if I do something wrong, I think, I just try and make it right. I don’t bring God into that picture. I don’t.”
Is that what you consider some sort of gotcha, Lonejustice? God ain't going to fix your mistakes because you ask him to do so. I actually don't give a shit about Trump's view of religion being completely irreligious myself, but I found that quote from Trump kind of refreshing- I don't know how true it was, but it is exactly what a good human being would do on making a mistake- a good person wouldn't bother with the pointless step of asking God for forgiveness since, if it is coming at all, will come after death. Fixing the mistake is the point of it all.
If you don't like it? Don't buy it.
For the life of me, I can't figure out why leftists and NeverTrumpers give a damn how other people spend their money.
DD Driver: "Most do at sporting events because monkey see monkey do."
I suppose you mean the guy behind homeplate with the rainbow wig and the sign in the 1970s and 1980s. I just looked him up--Rollen Stewart. He is not a model for anyone, having been married four times and currently serving three consecutive life sentences on kidnapping charges (none of which involved an injury or fatality). According to Wikipedia, he turned down a plea deal that would have involved a 12 year sentence.
He should have taken the plea deal.
Achilles said...
Freeman Hunt said...
Here in the Bible belt, that thing is pretty offensive.
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To you.
But there just aren't very many of you. That is why Trump got more votes in Iowa than any other Republican in a primary ever.
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I have lived in Iowa for most of my life. Iowa is NOT a part of the Bible Belt. Those states are Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, Arkansas, South Carolina, Tennessee, North Carolina, Georgia and Oklahoma. Many Iowans support Trump's policies, but may not vote for him because of all of his extra-marital affairs, including an affair with a porn actress, adultery, mocking the Lord's Supper (the little cracker that he eats), selling Bibles like a carnival huckster, admitting that he doesn't have to ask God for forgiveness, attacking pro-life activists, I could go on an on.
Mr Wibble left out taking fees from colleges and non-profits for 20 minute speeches paid for largely with government funds.
Deedee is out of the closet!
"For the life of me, I can't figure out why leftists and NeverTrumpers give a damn how other people spend their money."
Leftists have a problem with individual choice. For them, everybody has to either do or not do the same thing. That's why their idea of diversity is when people of all skin colors think exactly alike (as long as that thinking aligns with what their leaders demand).
I will applaud lonejustice for at least having the decency to post a full quote of what Trump said, even if in general I disagree with his analysis.
I lean toward Yancey Ward's view. When I step in the voting booth I'm voting for President, not Pastor, of the United States. If Trump is not 'saved' in your view or doesn't consider asking God (rather than people) for forgiveness, so what? He at least recognizes that it is necessary to change your behavior if you think you are doing or have done something wrong. That attitude is something that seems sorely lacking in our current political class which seems to think double-down on contempt and stupidity is the mark of righteousness. It seems to me that you're simply looking for a reason to say you're voting against Trump that sounds superficially thoughtful. Just man up and say you're voting against him for no reason other than you don't like him.
And to the claim that Iowans (of which I was one for 50 years until moving to Kentucky in 2013) won't be voting for Trump in 2024, Trump won Iowa back to back in 2016 and 2020 something that hadn't happened since Reagan's 1980 and 1984 wins. Trump's margin in Iowa in 2020 was slightly less the huge 9% in 2016 but given his larger popular vote deficit in 2020 Iowa moved significantly towards Trump. Regarding religious voters specifically per Wikipedia in 2020 "Trump also dominated amongst Christian voters, garnering 66% of Protestants, 54% of Catholics, and 76% of born-again/Evangelical Christians."
So spare us your wishcasting unless you have real numbers to back up your claims.
And the even less capable members of the LLR-democratical Brigade shpw up to gaslight...though much less effectively.
LLR-democratical lonejustice: "Many Iowans support Trump's policies, but may not vote for him..."
Trump swamps all competitors in Iowa, republican and lonejustices's preferred democraticals, in Iowa which contains a significant % of evangelical voters...a segment which Trump dominated with over 50% in the primary.
Thanks for playing lonejustice. Maybe next time get with your fellow buffoons Chuck and Rich BEFORE posting drivel.
@Rich: Nozick was the spirited (but logically unsuccessful) defender of the minimal state, seeking to give the skittish and tedious poetry of Ayn Rand a decent footing.
Ayn Rand was known for "skittish and tedious POETRY"? You don't say. Can you give us an example? How can poetry be skittish anyway?
Here was I thinking she was known for tedious PROSE laden with cartoonish characters, who nevertheless had something profoundly important and memorable to say about Hayek's Knowledge Problem and the merits of a self-directed rather than other-directed life. If the entire turgid book was a setup for Francisco d'Anconia's "Money Speech", that by itself is worth all the time it took to read it.
Come on and level with us now, Rich. Did you really write this gibberish, or did you cut and paste from some Poli Sci 101 term paper you found on a cheat site?
The Bible first went into print in 2021. Lee Greenwood has sold it on his website for 2 years. The group that decided to make a patriotic Bible was going to use the NIV, but Zondervan and Harper Collins received blowback and wouldn't allow the licensing for the NIV, which is why it uses the KJV (no copyright).
He's not selling the Bible, the publishers paid a licensing fee to use Trump's picture and I suppose endorsement.
https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/09/lee-greenwood-bible-christian-publishing.html
"So if Satan himself was able to build a wall and get Me I I to pay for it and eradicate the Deep State you would enthusiastically it’s for him?"
But Trump isn't Satan.
Wanna try again?
BrianE: "He's not selling the Bible, the publishers paid a licensing fee to use Trump's picture and I suppose endorsement."
Correct. Trump is simply endorsing a product with his Name, Image and Likeness thru CIC Ventures with zero of the proceeds going to the Trump campaign. Trump earned about $5M thru CIC Ventures in 2023 in just this way.
No Trump business entity is involved in any way in production or distribution of this Bible.
This info was readily available with about a 15 second search.
Anyone doing the same sales pitch with a patriotic Koran, for Biden, among the Muslims of key swing state Michigan? Because that would be a hilarious counterpoint to this story.
@ Hassayamper: Nozick was heavily co-opted by the Republican right, who used the nightwatchman / minimal state as the excuse for cutting taxes. But it was his notion of 'integral moral virtue' that the rights of one could not be sacrificed for the benefit of others - a malleable position easily twisted into being anti-abortion / pro-life.
Rawls and Cohen, the more coherent thinkers waned in popularity, and were replaced by identitarians - another group who wanted individualism to underpin freedom and diversity, but as we have seen have stolen the left's mantle with the cry of 'I demand to be exploited equally, and the right to heap misery upon my fellow humans regardless of my race, sex, gender'.
D.D. Driver said..."The Holy Bible as brought to you by a serial adulterer and the guy who paid hush money to porn stars. Grab 'em by their righteous pussies!"
Funny you say that as God chose Saul of Tarsus, (a person working to hunt down Christians) to become the Apostle Paul and spread the good news of salvation. He also was the author of many of the books in the Bible now known as the Epistles.
Where do our rights come from, Rich?
Rusty writes: “Where do our rights come from, Rich?
That’s not the flex you’re pretending it is.
You sound like the kind of person that can’t live within 300 yards of a school or park.
This doesn't have anything to do with those Fauci candles, does it?
LLRRich said...
Rusty: “Where do our rights come from, Rich?
LLR-democratical Rich: "That’s not the flex you’re pretending it is."
LOL
Oh, it most certainly is...and your lame deflection attempt is gadfly worthy.
Rich.
Let me make sure I have this right.
You don't know the answer to the question I asked you. That's what you mean by, "That's not the flex you're pretending it is.", right?
And then, as if to hurt my feelings, you accuse me of being a pedophile.
OK. I'm dealing with a child.
When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross, or in this case a flag wrapped cross.
Too late Mark.
It's come in the form of progressivism and the people promoting it are dumbern' shit.
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