December 7, 2023

I had to check the transcript to make sure Nikki Haley said this, which is so stupid I thought maybe some devious A.I. made the video.

From the transcript, here's the full context (with boldface showing the part in the video):
Eliana Johnsons (01:29:30): House Republicans yesterday hauled Elite University presidents up to Capitol Hill to answer for the displays of antisemitism on college campuses. These leaders, including the president of Harvard, were asked whether calling for the genocide of the Jews would violate school policies against harassment and intimidation. All of them said it would depend on the context, including whether that speech veers into conduct. How do you think these schools and the rest of society should balance the imperative of free speech against the need to prevent radical activists from harassing and intimidating others? 
Nikki Haley (01:30:24): It was disgusting to see what happened. If this had been the KKK that was doing protests on those campuses, every one of those college presidents would’ve been up in arms. This is just as bad. The idea that they would go and allow that kind of pro-Hamas protest or agree with the genocide of Jews and try and say that they needed context on that, there is no context to that. This is what we need to do to deal with it. First of all, we have got to get foreign money out of our universities. You’ve got Arab money, you’ve got Chinese money, you’ve got others. We need to go to every university and say, “You either take foreign money or you take American money, but the days of taking both are over.” 
The second thing we need to do is we need… Biden made a mistake not including anti-Zionism in the definition of anti-Semitism. If you don’t think that Israel has a right to exist, that is anti-Semitic. We will change the definition so that every government, every school has to acknowledge the definition for what it is. 
The third thing is we really do need to ban TikTok once and for all, and let me tell you why. For every 30 minutes that someone watches TikTok, every day, they become 17% more anti-Semitic, more pro-Hamas based on doing that. We now know that 50% of adults, 18 to 25, think that Hamas was warranted in what they did with Israel. That’s a problem. When campuses also don’t go and protect, when they have these rallies, and you’ve got students that are scared, we need to go to these universities and say, “If you’re not going to protect these students, if you’re not going to acknowledge anti-Semitism, we’ll take your tax-exempt status away.” That’ll fix it and that’ll take care of it for them.

Here's an article in The Guardian that tracks down a source for her strange assertion about TikTok, "Nikki Haley says TikTok makes people ‘17% more antisemitic, more pro-Hamas’/Republican presidential contender mocked for claim about Chinese-owned app during primary debate on Wednesday night":

Amid online mockery ... it became clear Haley was referring to a survey conducted by Generation Lab and released last month.

Steve Goldstein, European bureau chief for MarketWatch, said Haley was not “accurately stating” the results of the survey.

Considering what he called “a pretty decent sample of some 1,323 Americans under the age of 30”, Goldstein said the survey “found that spending 30 minutes a day on TikTok was associated with a 17% increase in the likelihood they were to hold antisemitic or anti-Israel views compared to people who don’t use it at all. While much higher than the antisemitic views of Instagram or X users, the study does not suggest that continuing to use the Chinese-owned social media service will further bolster the user’s antisemitic views.”...

[TikTok] queried the methodology behind the survey, alleging weaknesses including the use of 14 hashtags it said were pro-Israel but 47 it said were pro-Palestinian, and not representing respondents’ views before they used TikTok....

59 comments:

Rabel said...

She seems kind of bossy.

mccullough said...

If you aren’t anti-Semitic before you start on Tic Toc you won’t ever be anti-Semitic.

0 * 1.17 is zero.

Nikki is another fucking Karen.



Big Mike said...

“I’ll take made up bullshit statistics for $1000, please.”

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Haley does start with an H. H is for hell and hell is for children.

Look, I didn't say that; I lifted that off a Taylor Swift song.

Bunkypotatohead said...

It's funny cuz it's true.

Joe Biden Is Corrupt said...

after I watch tik tok - I'm 20% more peppermint.

Joe Biden Is Corrupt said...

I have heard than gen z loves them some grievances and Hamas. Is that because of tik tok?
I have no idea.

I think grievance sells well to the historically ignorant.

The Vault Dweller said...

oof. This is about enough for me to permanently write her off. Never mind the question of how someone can be 17% more of a quality that has no quantitative measurement, her doubling down on government controlling speech online is absolutely disqualifying.

Rabel said...

Probably late to the party but:

"They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time, it works every time."

- Brian Fantana

chickelit said...

She’s not wrong about nefarious foreign government money in American Universities. In particular Chinese influence on the UC system. This was particularly egregious during COVID and the Trump administration. Deans were told to violate executive orders regarding the free transit of Chinese nationals. I should have been wearing a wire.

gspencer said...

"For every 30 minutes that someone watches TikTok, a Muslim terrorist gets his 72 virgins"

robother said...

I love it. 17% more antisemitic. That kind of precision, its gotta be scientific, man! Come to think of it, we may have confirmation (i.e., trouble) right here in River City. I don't recall Crack being down with Hamas before Althouse started posting those TikTok links.
Hell, that's 17% of comments right there.

n.n said...

It complements statistics about trans/homophobia, diversity, xenophobia, misogyny, toxic masculinity, color supremacism, etc.

Joe Smith said...

The sad part is, most people don't have to view any app in order to hate Jews and support Hamas.

Usually, only a college diploma from the past 20 years is necessary...

Mason G said...

"her doubling down on government controlling speech online is absolutely disqualifying."

Have you heard what leftists want? That's not disqualifying to them.

Old and slow said...

It doesn't seem to be working on me. She is a moron.

Original Mike said...

"I love it. 17% more antisemitic. That kind of precision, its gotta be scientific, man!"

17 +/- 5%

Bob Boyd said...

Every time you watch a TikTok video, God kills a kitten.

Justabill said...

Forget it, she’s on a roll.

Bob Boyd said...

For every 30 minutes that someone watches Nikki Haley speak they become 17% more anti-Nikki Haley, more pro-Trump.”

madAsHell said...

For every 30 minutes that someone watches TikTok every day, they become 17% more antisemitic, more pro-Hamas.

She sounds as whacky as Bernie, or Pocahantas Lizzie.

mccullough said...

Among US Tik Tok users, 60% are female.

60% college students are female.

We need to ban colleges & universities.

Each semester attending college makes you 17.43 more likely to anti-Semitic.

That’s only on average. Half of Ivy League students are 100% anti-Semitic already. So college, at most, only helps maintain their level of anti-semitism.

True Story

rcocean said...

The idiocy of her comment is beyond belief.

1) First she conflates dislike of Israel with dislike of jews. But israel is a foreign country and Americans can dislike any foreign country they wish.
2) Leaving that aside, we have ZERO idea what the survey considered "antisemtic". Maybe believing something true is considered by the survey as antisemitic. We don't know.
3) In any case, quantifying vague beliefs is impossible to do accurately. its pesudo-science.
4) Then ascribing the fake number to usage of a Social media company is absurd. At the very least she's confusing correlation with causation.

But then her hysterical love of Jews and Israel is over-the-top. Is she running for POTUS or President of Israel or the ADL? It seems to be the latter. And why is talking about the KKK? THere is no KKK. And 2 of the Ivy League Presidents are Jewish, and the 3rd Gay, was chosen by a search team headed by a Jew.

But they're "soft on antisemitism". LOL!

rcocean said...

Its insane that Haley is now the favorite of paul Ryan, cheney, and the bush family. How soon before Mittens gives her his endorsement.

John henry said...

In September I got into tiktok to promote one of my books (packaging machinery Handbook, available via Ann's portal.

It seems to have doubled sales so it does work for that.

It also sucks me in 3-4 times a week for 30-60 minutes at a time. In other words I watch a fair amount of it.

I get a very eclectic mix of videos. Farming around the world, fishing, woodworking, some woman talking about wigs, drag racing, construction fails, dash cameras and more

I nevet get anything remotely political. I could probably count political videos in 3 months on one hand.

If it is making me antisemitic, it is being veerrry subtle about it.

John Henry

JK Brown said...

We now know that 50% of adults, 18 to 25, think that Hamas was warranted in what they did with Israel. That’s a problem.

So...how many of that 50% spent two semesters or more in college or are college graduates? How many studied STEM?

John henry said...

I question the 17%.

Why 17? Why round it like that. If it is really 16.834% or 18.274‰ tell us.

What are they trying to hide by rounding like this?

John Henry

Kellerreiss said...

Can't take the Dreyfus "VP" out of Haley's performance. The woman is a doofus.

John henry said...

How much of the hoorah about tiktok is real and how much is ginned up by Google, Facebook, x et al?

Every dollar spent on a tiktok ad is a dollar that might have gone to Google et al. Every eyeball watching tiktok for an hour is an eyeball that didn't watch YouTube Shorts (a direct tiktok competitor) for an hour.

Are the Nikki Harleys objecting on principle or do they get money from Google?

John Henry

n.n said...

So, YouTube censors industry sensitive videos. Google steers its political search results. Wiki walks left, baby. TikTok marches, too. Who's left? Is anyone right?

narciso said...

Its the content not the platform and the fact youths are so woefully ignorant

Ann Althouse said...

"I nevet get anything remotely political. I could probably count political videos in 3 months on one hand...."

Yeah, I rarely get anything political. At most some man on the street interviewer asking people some easy question which they can't answer.

The Vault Dweller said...

Have you heard what leftists want? That's not disqualifying to them.

I agree, but that is all the more reason to only choose a candidate on the right who inherently views those kinds of actions as abhorrent.

Ann Althouse said...

What I get on TikTok is mostly just relaxing mildly interesting stuff like a chef cooking something or a hairdresser consulting about a haircut or a comedian imitating human foibles or people interacting with nature or somebody explaining something they understand.

Bob Boyd said...

If you play TikTok backwards you can hear Satanic messages.

Jupiter said...

Doesn't seem to be working on Althouse.
Of course, you have to wonder how Nikki Haley knows how much time people spend watching Tik-Tok. Maybe she has a particular "someone" in mind. Like her adult daughter? Oh, wait. That makes me "scum".

Jupiter said...

"What I get on TikTok is mostly just relaxing mildly interesting stuff ..."

I'm not following. You mean, Tik-Tok actively feeds you things? Like peeled grapes? I have to admit, I have seen a fair amount of Tik-Tok lately, but always because I clicked on a link. And while I have some problems with the Zionist enterprise, I don't think most people would call me pro-Hamas. Pro-Hamas-eradication, maybe. Nikki needs her tin-foil tightened. Someone notify her owners.

Yancey Ward said...

Now realize that Haley is smarter than most politicians in D.C.

Meade said...

Anatomy of a bird brain:

https://www.reddit.com/r/parrots/s/jEJqVhM7mL

Enlighten-NewJersey said...

Ever listen to Scott Adams on the topic of Tik Tok?

Wince said...

For every 30 minutes that someone watches TikTok, every day, they become 17% more anti-Semitic, more pro-Hamas based on doing that.

The TikTok elasticity of antisemitism?

Mason G said...

" but that is all the more reason to only choose a candidate on the right who inherently views those kinds of actions as abhorrent."

Couldn't agree more.

Big Mike said...

Now realize that Haley is smarter than most politicians in D.C.

Every person has two ends, one for thinking and one for sitting. For politicians in Washington, everything depends on their seat.

Thus nothing is left at the other end.

Howard said...

If you're an anti-semite your phone will feed you anti-semitic propaganda. If you're into forging weight lifting diet and exercise and stand-up comedy that's what it'll feed you.

gilbar said...

Nikki is the definition of Evil.. The DEFINITION

gilbar said...

It's important to remember.. That 37% of Americans will believe ANY statistic presented to them

larncambel said...

The statistical modeling used to produce these results only shows association, not causation. It is more likely, in my view, that folks who already hold anti-Semitic views are drawn to TikTok, resulting in the increased likelihood of observing anti-Semitic views on TikTok compared to those not on TikTok. This is yet another example of correlation is not causation.

Beaneater said...

"If you play TikTok backwards you can hear Satanic messages."

koTkiT! koTkiT!!!

Spooky stuff!

Richard said...

I suppose it might be useful to know the percentage of viewed time is on those featured in "Libs of TikTok"

The Crack Emcee said...

Zionists are going to drive the right mad. They already make them say stupid things, as if on cue.

Joe Bar said...

If she's the Republican nominee, just run me over with a truck.

Drago said...

Hamas 7th Century Death Cult Fanboy Crack: "They already make them say stupid things, as if on cue."

Do they say "stupid things" like Jews live in Gaza?

wendybar said...

She better tell her daughter that.

Enigma said...

Stuffed-suit politicians like Nikki do this all the time. No brain = easy space for clueless activists to fill.

Bill Clinton joked during one State of the Union address that it was stupid for the government to spend money studying "stress in plants," not knowing this is a huge commercial issue. Plants suffer stress from too much sun, too little water, freezing, etc.

Every other day Corn-Popper Joe Biden talks about "needing reasonable gun control because ordinary people can't own cannons," not ever comprehending that cannons can be ordered by mail and don't even count as regulated federal firearms per se.

And then there's The Squad geniuses..."We don't want greedy Amazon here in NYC..."

mgarbowski said...

Tik Tok is poison.
I don't like closing down public forums for speech.
But CP ownership makes that a close call.
Her statistics are preposterously made up.

mikee said...

War crimes trials, live video, military justice not civil. Or Hamas will not be eradicated.

mikee said...

War crimes trials, live video, military justice not civil. Or Hamas will not be eradicated.

Joe Biden Is Corrupt said...

Jewish TikTok employees allege toxic workplace, antisemitism since Hamas war began: report

mishu said...

Bill Clinton joked during one State of the Union address that it was stupid for the government to spend money studying "stress in plants," not knowing this is a huge commercial issue. Plants suffer stress from too much sun, too little water, freezing, etc.

Shouldn't a trade association representing those commercial entities fund those types of studies instead of the government?