Ric Wedge of Brooklyn writes in the top-rated comment on the NYT article, "Why Biden Is Behind, and How He Could Come Back/A polling deficit against Trump across six key states is mainly about younger, nonwhite and less engaged voters. Kamala Harris performs slightly better."
For Trump haters, the answer to everything is "an indictment."
You can see that Wedge is actively distancing himself from reality. He wants none of it. He won't try to find the sense of it. What's the use?! It's pointless. Chaos.
Wouldn't it be ironic if the reason "Why Biden Is Behind" is that the people who might support him are shrinking away from political engagement? It's just completely crazy — they may think — I'm not going to disarrange my fragile mind attempting to understand what cannot be understood.
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But it’s really so easy to understand. Things were much better under Trump than under Biden.
"This is now a failure of education, of culture, of common sense.""
How the Stalinist left see the world.
YOU are the problem. The corrupt left = the answer. You will obey. You will learn to obey in public school. You will be forced to obey.
Not Biden's fault.
Insert the 'Everything is Fine' meme here.
Diversity (i.e. class, e.g. party) engenders dissonant reflection.
The left deny reality all day long.
The bottom line is under Trump we had peace and prosperity.
Under Biden - we have above the law crook Biden, His disgusting money-whore son, his crook brother, (OK - too many crooks in the Biden family to name.)
we have high inflation, we hake woke Nazism, we have pro-noun police, We have DEI bullcrap, we have off-the charts crime - and no one brave enough to stop it. We have 8-10 million illegal entrants that were brought here on purpose... to install a permanent Democrat voting block so they can have their desired one party state.
More Progressive projection. Actually, support for Biden over Trump is an indictment of some portion of America.
It's not me, it's all of you. Just like Obama speaking to his aides - youare responsible, not we are responsible.
Yet another version of the "deplorables" mentality.
If your candidate has major problems, don't focus on the reasons for that; just insult the supporters of the other candidate.
That's not how acting like an adult works.
“ This is now a failure of education, of culture, of common sense."
So much ipse dixit. So much othering. IOW, if you are for Trump you are basically insane and uneducated. People who disagree need to be sent to Hillary’s reeducation camps.
This reminds me of the horrible movie, “The Brainwashing of My Father.” The premise is that nice liberal dad was brainwashed by Rush and Fox News.
The director then says at the end they hid the TV remote from old dad and family harmony was restored. She doesn’t disclose that dad was senile by then.
I pushed back against this woman and she blocked me on TwitterX.
"Honestly any poll that shows a preference for Trump over Biden should be understood as an indictment not of Biden, but of the entire Democratic Party. That after all this time - and all the years of hard work Maxine Waters and Co. told America they'd put into smearing that man - anything even approaching a majority of voters see Trump as even a remotely sensible option, can no longer be viewed through the lens of a traditional political calculus. This is now a failure of marketing, of deceit, of subversion, of SNL, of Stephen Colbert, of Seth Myers, of The View, of,...."
And Hillary. We can never forget Hillary.
Dehumanization is a first and necessary step before genocide.
It's striking how the left became Jannisaries and/or victims of Stockholm Syndrome within a generation. Human nature I suppose. Predators are always driven to dominate and kill.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Janissary
https://www.britannica.com/science/Stockholm-syndrome
Why Biden Is Behind, hmmm, could be he's the same incompetent jack ass and disgusting pig that he has always been . As the results of his policies and efforts show. In addition we now know that he is also a traitor selling the country down the river. Just like the clintons, obamas, and most if not all of the dems. A pox on the propagandists and their ilk. But, then, libs are fascist terrorists in word, deed, and belief. Treat them accordingly.
"an indictment not of Biden, but of Americans."
Right. That's what progs think.
America has the wrong people. Therefore, it needs better people. Therefore, it should import better people. Therefore, it should open its borders to better people.
But no talk of Great Replacement, please. Though the deplorables do need to be replaced, BAMN.
Wedge should extract his head from his digestive tract.
Well it’s the NYT. So the readers are in a “NY Elitiest Lefty” bubble.
And those that take the time or feel the need to comment, even more so.
What the comments show me is a bunch of people grappling for any explanation as to why their fantasy world isn’t all peaches and cream. They’re losing what’s left of their grip on reality.
One can’t believe anyone would be stupid enough to see anything good in Trump. (Maybe never been outside NY)
One claims Biden is a strong moral character. (seriously).
One blames all the economic woes on the fact that we’re “tied to a global economy”. (Not Joes fault)
It’s like seeing the inside of a brain trying desperately to rationalize this shit show…
Shorter Ric Wedge: Anything is justified.
I feel sorry for Ric. His media sources have given him an atomic wedgie of the brain.
Trump is a symptom, not the cause. It goes back much further than Trump to at least the Tea Party. Trump was more of a conman taking advantage of the situation and built a cult of personality as a distraction. If he had not come along, what we are seeing today would have happened sooner.
I'm not going to disarrange my fragile mind attempting to understand what cannot be understood.
Cognative dissonance or tangled web. Either way it is a house of cards.
The Narcissists Creed, "How can you be so stupid as not to agree with Me."
It's recited by many morons. Like this guy. And it's taught in K-12 public schools today as teachers ram it into little kid's skulls. And of course Me is always capitalized.
This is a call for Brecht's solution: dissolve the people and appoint a new one.
Rationalization is a helluva drug.
For Democrats, Trump's win in 2016 is not unlike Hitler's win in 1933. A democratic malfunction (Hillary sucked!) or some random shock (the Russians!) enabled a despicable minority (MAGA Republicans) to grab the reins of power.
Battlefield prep for calling off elections.
"This is now a failure of education, of culture, …"
And who dominates those?
Media polls are worthless when it comes to understanding the dynamics of a political race. The purpose is to create a narrative and a call to action.
The NYT wants to rally all good lefties and liberal moderates to come to the aid of the Party.
Are you better off now, then you were 4 years ago?
Why Biden is behind?
Could it be inflation? Wars? Open Southern Border? Allegations of graft/bribery/treason? Stagnant economy? National Debt? Recession? Senility? etc...
Nah, right? Must be so many misinformed voters... It's TRUMPS FAULT!!
How dare Americans betray Ric Wedge of Brooklyn? He's so angry, he might spill his Soy Latte.
There is a solution! Ric Wedge should say he will move to Canada if Trump is elected.
"And Hillary. We can never forget Hillary."
Unfortunately, she won't let us...
Between 2012 and 2016 the Democrats decided to run working class and non-college educated middle class voters out of their party. In FDR’s day they were the backbone of the party, but in the 21st century they were viewed as dead weight. Now in 2023 the Democrats have made it plain that American Jews are not welcome in their party, either. The Democrats openly discriminate against Asians, and Hispanics are their biggest critics on the Democrats’ Open Borders policy. Pro-abortion college educated women, government workers, blacks, and about half the Hispanics are about all that’s left of their coalition.
Finally, someone realizes that Trump resulted because of the abominable behavior of Bill Clinton, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, not due to any inherent virtue expressed by Trump.
The next step in healing the nation is admitting their abominations and beginning to rectify them. Otherwise, Trump will seem like a gentle breeze compared to the tornado force of his successors, who may just deserve comparisons to Hitler.
The only poll that matters is the one nominally occurring on November 5, 2024. We will see an unprecedented variety of pro-Democratic Party influence campaigns in the runup to the election. The Covid-era voting abuses will be magnified. Race relations will be mercilessly manipulated for short term gain. Expect domestic terrorism. In the midst of all this, many women will base their vote on the irrelevancy that is abortion. Inflation, mortgage interest rates, and the deficit will continue at unsustainable rates. This will be the least enjoyable election cycle of my lifetime. Regardless of the outcome, the nation will emerge more divided, and even more aggressive about its divisions. And it won't have a damn thing to do with the written output of right wing catastrophists.
I'm hoping for a Thermidor, but without a Napoleon.
"That after all this time, anything even approaching a majority of voters see Trump as even a remotely sensible option, can no longer be viewed through the lens of a traditional political calculus. This is now a failure of education, of culture, of common sense."
True.
Flatworms, which are smarter than Democrats, will turn away from pain. Common sense is what drives Trump voters. "Rich" thinks Trump is a "conman" while supporting Biden.
"Are you better off now, then you were 4 years ago?"
I'm doing easily as well today as four years ago.
Trump is giving “indictments” a bad name. ☺️
Blogger Rich said..."Trump is a symptom, not the cause. It goes back much further than Trump to at least the Tea Party. "
Yeah, those old people who thought they were Taxed Enough Already really were despicable, weren't they Rich?
You know it’s bad when despite the massaging that goes on with poll numbers, Trump still trumps Biden.
Despite the marvelous Biden economy, the liberation of Ukraine and Biden’s undoing the Trump disaster at our southern border.
So long as Trump is the president, Biden is the best president we have.
Like Obama, Biden is too good for us.
Crack, excellent.
Failure of education (owned lock, stock, and barrel by the left, for more than a generation) and culture (ditto).
Uh-huh. Pull the other one.
Poll the 16-30 crowd. About any leftist cause. I'd bet my house on overwhelming support.
Original Mike wins!
Wedge-one of the simplest tools known to man or women or one of numerous other genders.
Democrats, sensing defeat, must postpone the election to save our democracy. Maybe it will be safe to hold one the next year. Or the next.
"This is now a failure of education, of culture, …"
And who dominates those?
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Careful with that. If the left answers that question, they'll most certainly decide that they haven't done whatever they're doing hard enough and just redouble their efforts. The left can't possibly be wrong, can they?
Imagine how far Biden would be behind if the MSM reported honestly on Biden's corruption.
And Hillary's crimes.
And who knows what will eventually come out about Obama.
I'd vote for Trump for no greater reason than to inflict pain and misery and fear on this guy and all like him.
I don't consider them my countrymen anymore. They are my worst enemies, and I want them to suffer so much, they flee to Canada or Sweden or who fucking cares where.
Assuming that vote counters say that Trump wins.. Does ANYONE think that the dems will allow it?
'"Are you better off now, then you were 4 years ago?"
I'm doing easily as well today as four years ago.'
That's one. Happy for you.
A huge majority, me included, find the country under Biden going in the wrong direction. In almost every category. Because we observe.
I LOL'ed when VP Harris announced most Americans were only $400 away from an economic disaster while the Administration was on the Ain't-Bidenomcs-GREAT! tour.
I remember back in the day when we had a free press, rather than today's despicable mob of stenographers and parrots and prostitutes, and the Capitol Hill newspaper "Roll Call" took non-partisan glee in ranking the dumbest Senators and Reps. I think it was by an anonymous vote of Congressional staffers. Biden was high on the list multiple times. He is truly one of the most dimwitted and worthless men ever to sit in Congress, let alone the Oval Office.
Blogger Robert Cook said...
"Are you better off now, then you were 4 years ago?"
I'm doing easily as well today as four years ago.
Well, if you grow your own food and do not drive a car, you could be honest about it. I doubt that you are, thouch.
It is becoming directly perceptible that things are much worse under Biden than Trump and that (therefore) Trump did a much better job than he is given credit for. People vote their pocketbooks.
It is also an indication that Biden will not be the Democratic nominee in 2024. The Democratic Party will not allow itself to be destroyed by him.
Worst case of "overplaying your hand" I've ever seen. It wasn't enough to win in 2020 and to remove Trump from office. The Democrats had to crush him as well to satisfy their voters' bloodlust. Turns out Americans don't like to see piling on. Polls have shown even "double haters" (voters who strongly disapprove of both Biden and Trump) give a clear edge to Trump when asked which one they would vote for, if those were the only choices. Trump wasn't entirely joking when he said one more indictment would guarantee him a landslide victory.
No surprises from the NYT peanut gallery, really.
Ms. Althouse, you are sounding suspiciously as if you have been red-pilled, and no longer beleive that Joe Biden has been 'one of the Best Presidents Ev-ah'.
Be careful, there, or the Ministry of Truth and Right Thinking might like to have... a word with you. Are you having little thoughts pop into your head unbidden, that you cannot explain away?
People speak of Kamala Harris as a bad decision that we are stuck with now. So, for that matter is Joe Biden. He was sold as the guy who could beat Trump and he almost screwed that one up. Bernie was the one to beat according to the committed liberals among my family and friends. A few supported other candidates in the Dem primary but no one had supported Joe Biden up to that point. Once he was chosen they lined up behind him but their support was never strong and now they don't even try cheer lead. RFK could still be the one they choose.
Ric is another New York City douchebag. One of at least 2 million.
Brooklyn has been a shithole since the Dodgers left after the 1957 season.
Anyone with an education, culture, and common sense doesn’t live in Brooklyn.
Ric is deplorable.
Indicting the candidate did not work, so now they are indicting his voters.
That's the ticket!
I'd interpret this polling with due caution. For one, we remain a long way out from election day. Incumbents also usually under-perform in polling compared to voting (see Trump in 2020) and the remarkable Democrat over-performance in the 2022 mid-terms and in recent special elections suggest this may be even more so the case this time around, especially if the Democrats can effectively mobilize the pro-choice vote. In those mid-terms we also saw the Democrats win by very significant margins (over ten points) in both Michigan and Pennsylvania, and their very popular governors there in Whitmer and Shapiro respectively (either of whom would make a fine presidential candidate, but c'est la vie) should confer an advantage to the Democrats, as should the after-shocks of the UAW successes and the impact of the Infrastructure and Inflation Reduction Acts. I remain unconvinced that Trump is likely to reverse the loss of suburban, socially liberal middle-income voters he endured in 2020, particularly given his indictments, and I suspect the Fulton county case will also hinder his performance in Georgia (where the candidate he backed for governor was decisively defeated in the Republican primaries in 2022, and the Democrats won the Senate races in both 2020 and 2022).
“I'm doing easily as well today as four years ago.”
Potato is good, comrade?
I can believe it’s this close. The GOP electorate are reactionary, low information, dim bulbs who are willingly fed fake news for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
It’s like George Carlin said, think how dumb the average person is in this nation. Now imagine that half of America is dumber than that.
MAGAt nation!
@ Robert Cook:"Are you better off now, then you were 4 years ago?"
I'm doing easily as well today as four years ago.
So, you're not paying thousands of dollars more now for energy, fuel, food, goods, services? You're not concerned about immigration and border security? Government censorship? Military readiness? How's your 401K?
I can acknowledge and somewhat respect some of your positions and principals, but you are clearly wrong on this issue
Sure thing, "Rich." Josh Shapiro is a good Presidential nominee for the Democrats. Let's all pretend that your side hasn't revealed itself to be filled with rabid anti semites. I'm sure he'll pick up tons of support from all of them.
"Rich" has to be a troll account.
Well, they do seem to be indicting a lot of Americans.
Blogger Robert Cook said...
"Are you better off now, then you were 4 years ago?"
I'm doing easily as well today as four years ago.
Let's parse this? Shall we?
The question was: Are you BETTER OFF..
Marxist Cook replies: I'm doing easily as well today as four years ago.
So..
1st of all, Cook is rather Obvious deluded about a LOT of stuff*
2nd of all, EVEN Cook doesn't think that Even HE is better off.. Just as well
3rd of all, has Cook EVER heard of inflation?
4th of all, (and this IS the kicker) Under Biden, the chocolate ration was increased to 20 from 30
stuff* hey Cookie? In the history of this country, has it EVER had a left wing ruler?
Blogger TeaBagHag said...
I can believe it’s this close. The GOP electorate are reactionary, low information, dim bulbs who are willingly fed fake news for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
More projection from the left. Shut up and eat your bugs.
"This is now a failure of education, of culture, of common sense."
Perhaps it is a failure of the democrats to nominate a viable candidate which implies that they have no one better than Joe Biden. No Bench.
I wonder how if he would say the same than about Palestinians and hamas?
Actually, I don't.
Took me a while but I finally figured it out! Good to hear from you again LLR/Rich! Interesting times we're in, nicht wahr?!
Polls have shown even "double haters" (voters who strongly disapprove of both Biden and Trump) give a clear edge to Trump
Same thing happened in 2016; roughly two-thirds of the 20% of the electorate that hated both candidates but voted anyway broke for Trump, winning him the election.
"Honestly any poll that shows a preference for Trump over Biden should be understood as an indictment not of Biden, but of Americans."
So, if everyone you meet is an asshole, it may be that you are the asshole, and everyone else is fine.
Oft times I find no rest thru the night, tossing, turning, oppressed by the realization that, once again, we the people have failed our politicians.
I still think Biden was an accidental president. Trump was cruising for an easy re-election. Biden was put up just to have some body on the Democratic ticket. He wasn't expected to win so it didn't matter that he was a dufus. Obama tagged him as such. Then the pandemic happened and upturned everything. Trump didn't handle it well and the democrats kicked up their voter fraud machine. And here we are.
Please subject prospective Joementia voters to his brain blur a few days ago in Maine.
Team Juice cries...
“I'm doing easily as well today as four years ago.”
Given the grim avatar you use it would seem that misery is your permanent condition.
”hey Cookie? In the history of this country, has it EVER had a left wing ruler?“
I guess that depends on one’s definition of left wing. Many of the regular commenters on this blog think just being a Democrat makes one a leftist, which, of course is daft. In my view, we have never had an overt leftist president, no. We have had some “liberal-ish” presidents…perhaps.
Oh, and the president is not a “ruler.” He is one part of a tripartite government, each equally powerful and each (theoretically) answerable to each other. Theoretically, these entities manage public affairs on behalf of and with the consent of the people.
”Given the grim avatar you use it would seem that misery is your permanent condition.“
Grim??!! Hahahaha…it’s not grim!
Late to the party. It’s an indictment of both. Or to recall an old Saturday Night Live bit from when it was good over 40 years ago—it’s both a floor wax and a dessert topping!
”So, you're not paying thousands of dollars more now for energy, fuel, food, goods, services? You're not concerned about immigration and border security? Government censorship? Military readiness? How's your 401K?”
I’m not personally spending “thousands” more in these things, though inflation certainly is making things more expensive. What, in your expertise, is the cause of this inflation? What, specifically, has Biden done to cause this inflation? What can he do to curb (global) inflation?
I’m NOT concerned with immigration and border security. I think it is a blown up scare story playing on people’s fears and prejudices.
Military readiness? I think we have a bloated over-funded military. In my view the War Department’s budget should be SLASHED by 50-75%
My pension account is going up and down… as it alway has…and always will. This is is the nature of finance and the economy.
One has to take a longer view than just TODAY or THIS MONTH or YEAR.
”hey Cookie? In the history of this country, has it EVER had a left wing ruler?“
Yes, Nancy Pelosi.
"My pension account is going up and down… as it alway has…and always will. This is is the nature of finance and the economy."
Another public sector employee sucking at the public teat.
My BIL,(another public sector employee), once said that it is impossible for a nunicipality nor any government entitiy to declare bankruptcy. Wrong. San Berardino declared bankruptcy. Guess what happened to the pension holder when the citizens can't pay their taxes any more? Pensions don't get paid.
Just remember,comrade Bob. Your smug afluency is funded by people that work for a living in the private sector who are struggling to make ends meet.
We now know exactly what you think of working class families.
make money out of thin air
oh my, what caused inflation?
friggin idiots
I still think Biden was an accidental president. Trump was cruising for an easy re-election. Biden was put up just to have some body on the Democratic ticket. He wasn't expected to win so it didn't matter that he was a dufus. Obama tagged him as such. Then the pandemic happened and upturned everything.
@ken in tx, which gets to my complaint about Trump’s political acumen — if he didn’t grasp that Fauci, Birx, and Walensky were deliberately sabotaging his presidency then he’s about the only person anywhere near DC who didn’t.
For all of that I don’t see anyone else in ether party I’d trust to fix an economy that Joe Biden has not merely broken but attempted to shatter.
"Another public sector employee sucking at the public teat."
I'm retired. I was never a public sector employee. I only ever worked in private sector jobs.
Deplorables II, the sequel
he didn’t grasp that Fauci, Birx, and Walensky were deliberately sabotaging his presidency then he’s about the only person anywhere near DC who didn’t.
Trump is a notorious germaphobe. From that perspective, the pandemic was a real weak spot for him. Evidence has come out about how Birx and Fauci have cooked the books with regards what they reported up the chain regarding the pandemic, especially with the data used to justify the initial shutdown.
Trump initially floated Fauci as the spokesperson. Very quickly it seemed Trump realized that Fauci was not on his side.
At the time lack of ventilators was the real bugaboo from the press (and hospital beds). Trump used his executive and business experience though to solve the ventilator and bed availability. All of a sudden ventilators were no longer the panacea they should have been.
He then pulled up Birx (about the time the scarf phenomenon hit the news) and Fauci was pushed to the back. After he realized they were both pushing the same agenda, he was stuck. He couldn't fire them in the middle of a pandemic. He would have been impeached. He started pushing instead on a local response, looking to state governments. This for example, launched DeSantis as a nationwide figure. It also led to Cuomo's downfall. Each governor took a different tack and brought their states to different outcomes.
Given all that, I'd give him a pass on the pandemic. He was a little reactionary, but we all were. The eventual Trump position was one of letting the local states dictate policy (lockdowns, masks, vaccines). When Biden took office is when we had a second wave of policy changes and nationwide dictates: masks on airplanes, lockdowns of nursing homes, vaccine mandates for employment.
Given all that I'll give Trump a pass on the pandemic. I'm not sure DeSantis would have done better. He only lifted the state of emergency in late June of 2020, and was didn't lift all restrictions until May of 2021.
We know Biden, Newsom, Cuomo, et. al, would have done worse.
Robert Cook said...
"Another public sector employee sucking at the public teat."
"I'm retired. I was never a public sector employee. I only ever worked in private sector jobs."
So you claim.
Robert Cook said:
"Oh, and the president is not a “ruler.” He is one part of a tripartite government, each equally powerful and each (theoretically) answerable to each other. Theoretically, these entities manage public affairs on behalf of and with the consent of the people."
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Haha. That's a laff riot. Ever hear of the Administrative State, aka the Deep State?
Congress abdicated its legislative and oversight powers to the Executive.
The courts defer to the Executive.
The POTUS issues unilateral ukases, pronouncements, orders and decrees he calls Executive Orders and flips the bird at the Congress, courts and Constitution.
THEY run everything now.
IOW what Woodrwo Wilson sneeringly referred to as the "4th of July pieties" of the Constitution have been swept away.
So...bless your heart.
"Haha. That's a laff riot. Ever hear of the Administrative State, aka the Deep State?"
That's why I said "theoretically." But, the President as described in the Constitution is not a ruler.
"Congress abdicated its legislative and oversight powers to the Executive."
They have and they often still do, but that is their doing. The checks and balances built into our government structure only work when each of the three parts of government meet their responsibility to do so. Often it has been because the majority in Congress agreed with the President in office at any given time. They also abdicate their oversight and veto functions when they are too cowardly to take what they perceive as an unpopular position.
"The courts defer to the Executive." Only when the court is populated by a majority of judges who agree with the Executive, and even then not in all cases.
In short, the courts and Congress can always, at any time, fight back against any given President if they had the conviction that the President's prerogatives were legally incorrect or simply bad policy.
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