October 15, 2023

"It seems to me like the more time goes on, the more Trump is a shoo-in."

"It seems like if this shit keeps getting crazier and crazier, there are going to be a lot of liberals voting for him. He was the one in the beginning saying we've got to stop people from dying. Like, do you want Ukraine to win this war? Remember that conversation? He's like, 'I want people to stop dying.' Like, which is the best answer any politician has ever given. And the way he said it. See if you can find the one where he's talking about Milley leaving stuff over in Afghanistan. I might have saved it. It was so funny, the way he was saying it. Did you see the thing he was saying about electric tanks? That's hilarious too. ... 'They're gonna make electric tanks, it's gonna be great for the environment, they're not gonna work well. They're not gonna run long. They're gonna blow the shit out of everything, but it's gonna be good for the environment.' And the way he said it was like a guy doing standup.... The way he says it, it's like he sets it up like he's setting up a punch line. Like, he sets up the story, 'Sir, it would be cheaper to leave them over.' He's like... 'That guy's a fucking idiot.'  To see a guy like him talk like that...."

Said Joe Rogan — recorded October 11, 2023.

50 comments:

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

The corrupt left are terrified of Trump - they must destroy him with every commie trick in the book.

The Crack Emcee said...

The New Age movement has pushed us right over the edge, to when a self proclaimed "Idiot" is the Number One talk show host on the internet, America's Number One Con Man is the greatest president of my lifetime, and a crackhead was right about the infestation of cults, and all the trouble that they were to cause America and the world.

It's *almost* a wonderful time to be alive.

Jaq said...

I think he is going to prison for Joe Biden's crimes, to be honest.

RAH said...

Trump is funny. That is why many love going to his rallies. He is enjoyable.

gilbar said...

Serious Question: Are YOU better off, than you were four years ago?

Kakistocracy said...

The Media — in fact, columnists all around the world — should take the time to study the rise and decline of Italy's Silvio Berlusconi, whose political career — including his antics, judicial troubles and anti-hero status — was basically an anticipation of Trump's political experience.

Every time Berlusconi got indicted — he was 16 times, though he managed to dodge most of the accusations by way of delaying tactics or changing laws when he was in power —,people fretted that the judiciary was making a martyr, or an anti-hero, out of him and that that would have only helped him electorally.

There's no doubt that the indictments contributed to making Berlusconi's base, over which he exerted unrivaled charismatic power, more loyal to him. But they did not win him a single vote from anyone else. And when the conviction finally came (in one single case of tax fraud), the cost for Berlusconi was considerable.

Trump's indictments have political costs, as it was always clear they would have, given the charismatic nature of his power. But it would be much more destructive to let him go out of a frankly craven electoral calculation.

In addition, the elections are very far from now, and Trump's Republican base is just a fraction of Americans. The mugshot can fascinate people like Elon Musk, but will make many others reconsider their vote for a potential felon and traitor.

traditionalguy said...

Rogan is the wise man of podcasts. And his guests are the thought leaders of the age free to speak for hours. WOW!

Kate said...

The difference between Trump and a professional comedian is that Trump is constantly testing new material, and not in small side venues.

Wince said...

"It seems to me like the more time goes on, the more Trump is a shoo-in."

Makes you wonder what the Deep State plan is in response.

Aggie said...

The Democrats will do anything to win. They understand the pathways to power, and the imperative of winning to rule.

Last time it was Absentee Ballots by the millions and 'fortifying' the election. This time, it's Lawfare, and how many courts will it take to dilute the efforts, spreading Trump 'Too Thin to Win'?

But: Democrats never ask themselves why their party has only dirty tricks and sneaky tactics to rely on. Why is it that the Party doesn't want the people to vote to a decision, instead of trying to remove or kneecap the competition? What happened to Big Ideas? What happened to Ideals? The polling on Biden, the economy, the border, and so on, is indicating these are all issues clamoring for attention, across party lines. But no Big Ideas are forthcoming, just more dirty tricks and more unvetted illegals being released into the countryside. The short answer is: They never had'em. Just more of the narratives.

Dude1394 said...

All republicans running for president should step down and whole heartedly endorse Trump. If they do not they ARE condoning putting your political opponents behind bars. And THEY will be next.

It is hill well, well worth dying on. Trump has done nothing wrong ( or nothing wrong of consequence ) yet the republican party has been complicit in allowing their political opponent to try and put him in jail for the rest of his life. Think about that, the democrat party and the federal government is attempting to put the previous president and the currently LEADING candidate for president behind bars for the rest of his life.

Anyone continuing to run against him as a republican are pretty much dead to me.

John henry said...

Our president emeritus endorsed the republican for gov in Louisiana and he won yesterday.

In 22 he endorsed a couple hundred republican senators and reps. Something like 96% won.

But he only endorses Maga supporters the llrs moan.

That's right and I hope he keeps on doing it. It id's who to support and who to ignore.

Between a non-Maga rep and a standard dem I have no preference. Vote against the incumbent whichever party.

John Henry

Lexington Green said...

Rogan's imitation of Trump is hilarious.

Skeptical Voter said...

Well the world is changing in ways that large numbers of us do not like. But heckfire that's been a fairly constant thing for centuries. Today there's a Pride protest at Clemson University--the college administration has removed the tampon dispensers from the men's bathrooms. Oh the horror of it all. You wouldn't think that students at a former cow college would get all het up about that.

Every four years or so those who are displeased with the way things are going have a chance to throw the bums out. And I think that a lot of bums are going to get thrown out next year.

Yancey Ward said...

Wince wrote:

"Makes you wonder what the Deep State plan is in response."

If prison and vote fraud can't stop him, they will assassinate him.

Maynard said...

Very few college indoctrinated White and Black women will vote for Trump.

What scares the Media-Democrat-Deep State cartel is that Black men have been gravitating to Trump along with formerly Democrat working class whites.

I still don't think that is enough for Trump to win beyond the margin of fraud.

Mason G said...

"Trump is funny. That is why many love going to his rallies. He is enjoyable."

The Left has no sense of humor. And they really don't like people having fun at their expense. They're serious people, you know- the Dean Wormers of the world... "No more fun of any kind!"

Mary Beth said...

Trump does have a great sense of comedic timing.

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

When people are said to be a shoo-in, a deth-nail gets his wings.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

Biden's illegal and corrupt open southern border will assuredly lead to Hamas-Islamic terror in America.

DEPORT THEM ALL.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

eh - Trump will be the nominee. That's the only shoo-in part.

Temujin said...

I'm not buying it.
I saw Trump's responses to Hamas' actions. I've seen it become about him...yet again.
I've seen and heard DeSantis's responses. And actions (actually arranging plane flights to get Florida residents out of Israel while our government is huddled in a corner trying to figure out what to say about it while not pissing off Iranians.)

Again- if and when DeSantis appears on the same stage as Trump and they can answer the same questions, and/or go after each other one one one- I think the nation will get a strong dose of who is the best person to lead going forward. Hint: It's the guy who needs the fewest mirrors around him.
Trump team's entire direction right now is to avoid, at all costs, appearing onstage with DeSantis or Haley.

Big Mike said...

Laughter can be a potent political weapon, and given the absurdities of many of today’s leftist causes it’s a natural tool in the political arena,

Trump isn’t the first and won’t be the last by any means. Lincoln was good at it — how many legs does a dog have if you call its tail a leg? *

And then FDR intoning about “Martin … Barton … and Fish.”

I’m even old enough to remember Jack Kennedy poking fun at Dick Nixon in 1960.

So let the laughter begin!

_________
* Four, because calling a tail a leg doesn’t make it a leg.

Mason G said...

"But no Big Ideas are forthcoming"

The left has them, they just can't say them out loud.

Original Mike said...

"If prison and vote fraud can't stop him, they will assassinate him."

And then we will be inundated with "It's too bad he was assassinated, BUT…"

deepelemblues said...

When an administration looks like it is controlled by events rather than controlling them, especially over an extended period of time, that's a very bad sign for its reelection prospects.

Ficta said...

"You wouldn't think that students at a former cow college would get all het up about that."

Clemson has a lot of students from New Jersey.

Kurt Schuler said...

People like Gilbar ask, "Are you better off than you were four years ago?" as if the question favors Trump. Next year it will be four years since Trump comprehensively botched the biggest challenge of his presidency, the Wuhan coronavirus. Among the results: he was the first president since Herbert Hoover to leave the U.S. economy with fewer jobs at the end of his presidency than at the start. Moreover, he was vociferous in his criticism of countries and states that made better decisions than he did, such as Sweden and Florida. I understand why many people find Trump more entertaining than other politicians. I don't understand why they consider him competent.

Free Manure While You Wait! said...

"If prison and vote fraud can't stop him, they will assassinate him."

I believe that. It would be their only remaining option.

The upcoming election will be much harder to steal, given that the Covid Protocols will be impossible to repeat, and how X is now making government-sponsored propaganda much more difficult to pull off (see the Israeli / Palestine war).

JK Brown said...

When the guest had to rush to the delu of Trump divided everyone. No, he ripped the sheets off many. I'll admit to liking to talk about Trump as wonderful and watch so many just lose their minds. Even if I didn't like Trump's words or choices, it was still fun to act like I did.

I thought of the WWII movie, "All Boats Away". Following a supply/tender, the Captain, Jeff Chandler, gets everyone stressed out by his demands. Toward the end, the XO, a former merchant captain, is let in on the secret. Chandler's commander had focused the crew on him so they didn't focus on the hardships of the duties and restrictions of the missions but rather got the jobs done, often to spite the CO.

Valentine Smith said...

I still say that Trump is the closest thing to a working class president ever. He is Street. And the Dems hate Street. Oh, they can fake it perfectly when it comes to rap and sports and TV Talking Heads and other minority endeavors. They do it by feeding the privileged blacks with half-assed power and tons of prestige. Upper class blacks have a huge stake in the success of the democratic party. They are the true beneficiaries of affirmative action, etc. Working class blacks not so much as a matter of fact, the Dem slogan should be all for the 10% none for the 90% regardless of race creed or color.

The Crack Emcee said...

Black men are loving them some Donald Trump now.

Leland said...

I'm glad Rogan noticed Trump's form of speech, but this is something that has been discussed going back to when Trump ran last time. We discussed at this blog. Trump supporters listen to his words and don't take them literally. Trump dissenters listen to his words and take them literally. Trump supporters get the joke, and it is not a dog whistle but a straight up joke. Trump dissenters insist it can't be a joke and therefore must be a dog whistle which they define what kind because they heard it.

If you judge by actions, Trump's Administration did more to lift people out of poverty than any other President this century. Crime was under control. Our economy was fine and recovering even during the pandemic, which hurt all economies world wide. We were energy independent, and therefore we had options with how we handled Russia and the Middle East.

Mutaman said...

Althouse has been forced to give up quoting fools like Scott Adams, Russell Brand, and Vivek Ramaswamy . She's down to the idiot Joe Rogan.

"There are going to be a lot of liberals voting for him."

Sure Joe.

tcrosse said...

There are two Trump cults, equal in force and opposite in direction. One thinks he's right even when he's wrong, the other thinks he's wrong even when he's right. I ask my Democrat friends (yes, I have them) if Biden/Harris is really the best they can do, and all they can say is that at least they aren't Trump. This is a necessary but not sufficient condition. I'm not Trump, either, but that alone does not qualify me for office.

Sprezzatura said...

Can we have an OED post re the origin of "shoo-in"?

Readering said...

Trump might win, but not with the votes of any liberals.

Aggie said...

"She's down to the idiot Joe Rogan.

That's interesting. Can you explain to us why this guy, who netted over $200 million and most of his creative freedom in a single deal, and has managed to craft his own unique career in the Entertainment community, and has a history of thinking for himself and acting successfully and decisively on that thinking, is an 'idiot' in your opinion? You can follow that up with a comparison to yourself for illustration, if you like. Always interested to hear the words of the 'more successful'!

Narayanan said...

I am having fun audibilizing/visualizing >>
what Blogger tcrosse said
in Gabby Hayes voice ...
[bewhiskered, cantankerous, but ever-loyal and brave comic sidekick]
with and without choppers

Drago said...

Temujin: "Trump team's entire direction right now is to avoid, at all costs, appearing onstage with DeSantis or Haley."

LOL

Sure.

Reality: DeSantis and Haley are quite busy taking turns bending the knee to the globalist/establishment/America Last Sea Island billionaire funder crew (Singer, Griffin, etc)

But again, not to worry. The corrupt Dem/GOPe/globalist establishment lawfare ploy should be enough to remove the guy 40 points ahead of DeSantis in all the key primary states, including Florida.

Including Florida. Do you want to explain that one?

Do you think those voters "need" to see DeSantis and Trump side by side to make a judgment call?

Or South Carolina voters Trump vs Haley?

Do you?

So again, here's early congratulations to you, Liz Cheney, Karl Rove, Paul Ryan, Andrew Weissman, Bill Kristol, Adam Schiff, Team DeSantis, et al. Its been a big team effort and you guys will need to stick together to pull it all off in the end.

But I believe in you guys and big celebrations are just ahead, no doubt. And you should all celebrate when that happens. Your team labored mightily and continuously from 2016 on with one hoax after another to deliver one Team Uniparty victory after another against the GOPe despised republican base voters.

As a strategist, I have to respect diligence and continuity of action.

Now, the impact of Team DeSantis (or Haley, or whoever) being the establishment's forced substitution for a corrupted takeout of Trump will undoubtedly lead to a permanent fissure in the republican party for the general election, but at least CNN wont insult you guys quite as much.

Still, a win will still be a win for you.

So again, early congrats.

Hats off to all of you.

Drago said...

tcrosse: "There are two Trump cults, equal in force and opposite in direction. One thinks he's right even when he's wrong, the other thinks he's wrong even when he's right."

Silly silly Trump supporter cultists!

Thinking the Bad Orange Man doesnt hate their guts and tries to enact policies to support them and their families and their values and beliefs.

Terrible Trump Man just has those cultists "hyp-mo-ti-ze-ed"!

Why wont those deplorable, listless, bitter clinger, horrible smelling likely-walmart-shopping folks just do what the GOPe tells them to do...like all right-thinkin' folks?

I mean, all the truly "respectable" and "dignified" GOPe-ers just know what's best, dont they? I mean, who needs a vastly more racially and ethnically diverse and more working class thru university (technical/science/engineering degreed) level voting base that is expanding every year?

Sheesh!

Yeah Jack Smith!!! (amirite?)

Git 'er done! Ron, Nikki etc are running out of cash while waiting for you to deliver! Time is literally money for the GOPe/DC consultant class and if you've been impressed by the DeSantis campaign Jeb-like burn rate and relative poll change "performance) with roughly $200M, just wait till you see what those loser consultants can do when the spigots open up to flood the DC "approved" campaign with $2B+!

Baby, they are gonna make Romney's indescribably horrific Project Orca disater look like Operation Genius!

Drago said...

Readering: "Trump might win, but not with the votes of any liberals."

Readering, very impressive. Years now of continous posting with a 100% "Wrong!" rating (and since I am a self declared and self anointed "disinformation expert" (thats all it takes by the way) my comments are not challengeable)

You're welcome.

What Liberals Don’t Understand About Pro-Trump Latinos
They all have one very important thing in common.

By Christian Paz
The Atlantic
OCTOBER 29, 2020

From 2016, Time Magazine:
"Voices from Democratic Counties Where Trump Won Big"

BY ELIZABETH DIAS, HALEY SWEETLAND EDWARDS AND KARL VICK

In 2023 and soon 2024, it is possible any remaining liberals will be driven from the New Soviet Democratical party by the wokies, leftists, neocon-leftists, islamic supremacsts, etc thus delivering a definitional "win" to readering's moronic assertion.

But the idea that Trump hasnt and wont and/or cant receive the support of some material % of liberal votes in a hypothetical 2024 matchup is so deliciously stupid that I might have thought Sonny Hostin had uttered it!

But again, not to worry: the GOPe/dem/deep state alliance will remove Trump from the campaign.

Robert Cook said...

"Serious Question: Are YOU better off, than you were four years ago?"

It's an unserious question, one meant to confuse and deceive: however one defines the meaning of "being better (or worse) off than you were four years ago," there is no ready, simple, and precise answer as to the positive and negative factors that create the "current" circumstances, good or bad. All circumstances at any time are a result of multiple ongoing inputs from human and non-human forces. Do determine how the circumstances of "now" came to be, there has to be a thorough analysis of what factors have been and are currently at play, what actions by what entities at what time, what global events, what human decisions, what acts of nature, all acting together, in harmony or dischord with each other, to arrive at the circumstances on any day and moment.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

Poor Drago - an ever Trump to the bitter end... the dick-stepper hath not flaws.

Rusty said...

I like it when Robert attempts to be nuanced. He couldn't have said, "I'm on a public pension." better. That, or your living on mom and dads trust fund.

"Serious Question: Are YOU better off, than you were four years ago?"

Of course not. By any metric you care to use.

Economically the Biden years have been a disaster. Just ask anyone with a 401K or anyone on SS. Inflation has sucked up savings. The working class that you claim to champion, Robert, has been hardest hit. Big infrastructure deals to big DNC donors.
Polically. WTAF is going on? The graft is out of control. Everybody in congress is a multimillionaire. They didn't start out in politics that way. Green policies that only enrich donors.
We weren't in proxy wars all over the world. Other countries respected us. Our boarder was more secure and getting better.
Prove me wrong.

Rusty said...

Aggie said...
""She's down to the idiot Joe Rogan."
It's mutaman, Aggie.
He has a front row seat on the short bus. The one without the hadicapped lift.

Readering said...

Odious creature Drago vomits some more.

Drago said...

Readering: "Odious creature Drago vomits some more."

LOL

That's it? That's all you've got?

Spoiler: sadly, pathetically, the answer is "yes". That's all you've got...and all you'll ever have.

Drago said...

Blogger I stand w Isreal. Leftists, Mullahs, Hamas-Palistinian terrorists can suck it: "Poor Drago - an ever Trump to the bitter end... the dick-stepper hath not flaws."

You guys at Team Uniparty are clearly feeling your oats today!

I suppose more congratulations are due you for your judges gag order ruling against Trump.

It might not stick long term but it does help the GOPe/dem/globalist alliance in the near term.

Quick question: did the globalist Sea Island group meeting last week, where both DeSantis and Haley and their campaigns pitched themselves, end up with a "winner"?

Wbo are you rooting for on the GOPe side to step in when your team jails Trump?

I mean, my assumption for you is always to swallow whatever the establishment folks tell you to swallow, but perhaps you've allowed yourself to have an independent thought....(LOL)...

donald said...

My buddy Bob Mr. Liberal and a few of his post office buddies are voting for Donald Trump and their rage at Biden is visceral. A change in the voting pattern in of male working class democrat males would put an end to the democrat crime family.