Hurricane #Idalia made landfall on Florida's Big Bend this morning. This view via #GOESEast IR imagery. Rapid intensification was reminiscent of Hurricane Ian one year ago, and in fact, maximum sustained winds were near 125 mph (205 km/h) just below Category 4 at landfall. #FLwx pic.twitter.com/OFYhQpeULy
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August 30, 2023
Visualizing Idalia.
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Maue frequently discusses the increase in color intensity of weather imagery in the last few years. It looks like the vantablack people have been cooking up a red version…
According to the Trump Sharpie Scale, it will also hit Fulton County, GA and the DC Federal court house.
I'm waiting for DeSantis to rebrand the hurricane as 'an opportunity to learn how to swim'.
Highest water temperature on record and here comes hurricane season. It's a good thing global warming is a George Soros funded liberal conspiracy… ;^)
125 mph is still gonna take the roof off your house and spread your stuff all over the county.
Looking forward to news stories about how well prepared the impacted citizens and government entities are/were for this storm ... since this is a fairly common occurrence in Florida.
Florida residents are already spending an average of $6,000 dollars on home insurance policies, according to III, four times more than the average in other states.
... Farmers Insurance announced last month that it will voluntarily withdraw from the state, affecting about 100,000 customers.
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I hate the Big Media’s constant fear porn and within the genre wall to wall climate fear porn is the worst. “Fifteen-foot surge!” and all. Uhh. Need I mention how wrong they are 90% of the time, including the once-in-a-hundred years “hurricane” that was actually just a routine tropical storm in California earlier this month.
Interesting how natural disasters are now just a joke to progressives. Not surprising considering to progressive roots and study of eugenics but interesting that over a century later they still have these views.
Rich said -
I'm waiting for DeSantis to rebrand the hurricane as 'an opportunity to learn how to swim'.
Highest water temperature on record and here comes hurricane season. It's a good thing global warming is a George Soros funded liberal conspiracy… ;^)
I'm just waiting for Rich to pull his pointy little head out of John Kerry's posterior.
Hi Rich. You know nothing about Florida other than what the national media hacks have taught you. Repeating bad info doesn't help anyone.
The hurricane has been a reminder to those of us here, just how great an executive leader Gov. DeSantis is. As with Ian, he has had the state mobilized far before it got here. And he and his team have moved pieces around and are in prep for repair and clean up all over the state. He is constantly in touch with the people of the state- as are the local media. We've seen him in action for during some of the more difficult years this country has seen recently. And he has been terrific. He's not a smiley guy. And he doesn't sniff the hair of strange women. He's just a man of action, someone who gets things done.
PS- if you want to know what is actually in the Florida African American History curriculum- you would be better off actually reading it and not taking Rachel Maddow's word for it. Whatever else she's used her education for, as it turns out, her best talents lie in propagandizing.
As for the Gulf temps. What do you mean by climate change? When has it not? I've read that the Atlantic was hotter than it's been since we've been recording. I've also read that the covid vax will prevent me from getting it or spreading it. Not sure how much to accept on face value anymore. The Gulf gets very hot in the summer. I lived in Sarasota 30 years ago. And came back 7 years ago. I've always loved the 'bathwater' temps of the Gulf in the summer. I'm told it's a couple of degrees warmer this year. Maybe. I can't tell the difference to be honest. But I would bet it's a couple degrees less in another year or two. And if that happens, we won't hear the clarion call of the press to tell us about it. The Gulf stays about this range and has for....at least the last 30 years. I would guess even before I first came here.
And yes- we get hurricanes. We're in the tropics. All the tropics get hurricanes. They always have. Long before RE Olds and Henry Ford were competing. It's what we accept when we move here. The nice outweighs an occasional hurricane.
But...if you've not lived through a hurricane, it's something to see. If you want to see nature unleash it's stuff, in a massive way, this is it. We're in Sarasota, still at this moment getting feeder bands of the hurricane. Those bands bring lashing wind and rain for a few minutes- 5-20 minutes, then it calms down again. But the eye of the storm is now about 300 miles from us. We're getting the southern bands, and the northern bands are now starting to reach as far as the Outer Banks of North Carolina. That's big.
Just as before, DeSantis and his emergency management team nailed the preparations for this storm. At his pre storm briefing yesterday and during updates throughout the night he demonstrated a precise understanding of what was required and had the foresight and organization to put in place well before the storm hit. His grasp of the details and his energy are in stark contrast to Slow Joe's bumbling response to anything not having to do with ice cream. We're incredibly fortunate to have him as our governor.
In SE Wisconsin, homeowners insurance rates are reasonable. But we don't have catastrophic weather, just sometimes pain in the ass weather.
Went to visit my Dad in Venice, FL about six weeks ago. They got hit hard last year, but only lost screens to their screened in pool. This one looks to be headed north of Tampa, so they should be ok.
Everyone in FL is bitching and moaning that their homeowners insurance is going up, and they are forced to take higher deductibles to try and keep premiums low.
Florida is great if you are near the water. Otherwise it is no big deal. If you CHOOSE to live near the water in FL, in a hurricane alley, you're probably gonna get hit at some point, and get water.
I wonder how much our homeowners premiums in sane weather areas are increased by those living in high risk areas. I'm sure there's a little socialism and cost sharing baked in.
Katrina was crazy. But of course if you build a city below sea level, only dry because of pump systems that rely on Democrat gov't up keep, you're screwed. Went to party on Bourbon street this past March. Had fun. Got wasted. Ate oysters and crawfish everyday. But it's a shit hole. Won't go back.
Blogger typingtalker said...
Looking forward to news stories about how well prepared the impacted citizens and government entities are/were for this storm ... since this is a fairly common occurrence in Florida.
Florida residents are already spending an average of $6,000 dollars on home insurance policies, according to III, four times more than the average in other states.
... Farmers Insurance announced last month that it will voluntarily withdraw from the state, affecting about 100,000 customers.
If you get in too many car accidents, your insurance will eventually drop you. For insurance companies it's a risk-probability math game. If you live in and area where the roof of your house, and hundreds of others around you are going to get blown off...you're going to pay more money.
Florida residents SHOULD pay more in homeowners insurance. What do they expect?
If you don't like it. Move to high ground. Or Jacksonville. Hey Boomers. Quit bitching.
Heavy rain already in SE NC with just the leading outer edge of the storm.
No golf today.
Apparently the name “Big Bend” for that part of Florida is news to lots of folks here in Georgia.
I never heard of Big Bend before, until now.
Here’s how stupid Rich is.
A: Hurricanes are caused by mankind. Rich cannot have ever been near a hurricane. Rich is a dishonest person.
B: We’ll get a good look at Desantis. Will he be hands on like last year when his leadership and results were about the best a state executive has ever done? But it is not in dispute by anybody on Desanti’s competence as governor of Florida that is not a rabid democrat hack. As Rich has proven right here, right now.
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Check Louisiana. Many reports of multiple wildfires. <a href="https://apnews.com/article/wildfire-louisiana-c4228ffa5c99cffbf952a0fc47aaf724:>Media outlets</a> blame people ignoring burn orders, and, of course, climate change. So many fires - any odds on how many were arson vs. accidental?
We all remember from last year how much help from Biden De Santis needs when it comes to hurricanes.
Need I mention how wrong they are 90% of the time, including the once-in-a-hundred years “hurricane” that was actually just a routine tropical storm in California earlier this month.
Their expectations for Hillary are always higher than what's delivered.
I would like to see the states where people pay 1500 per year on homeowners insurance
I would like to see the states where people pay 1500 per year on homeowners insurance
If Democrats really believed in anthropogenic climate change they’d be taking steps to strengthen hurricane codes and improving FEMA. On Maui the FEMA people are reported to be staying in $1000 a night resort hotels on the government’s dime and doing essentially nothing except taking down names and finding bureaucratic reasons to deny aid. (Your government-issued ID burned up when your house burned down? Nothing we can do for you, sorry.)
My house is 30' up over the St Johns River just north of the old steamboat town Palatka in northeast Florida. The only rain we received was last night on the first feeder band about 8pm. Other than that it's been 15 hours of 20-40mph winds. Not a tree nor a limb down in my live oak forest and my dock is 100%. Steenhatchie and Keaton Beach took a beating. And at 12:27pm the sun just made the first appearance of the day...
Gusty.
I think it will also be an incentive to people to build sturdier structures.
MB. Hillary has always been a mediocrity. She has and will always disappoint. She is intellectually unable to be the Democrat standard bearer. Which is why she appeals to folks like our usual suspects.
Poor Rich, like Chuck, he just can't keep the "Life-long Republican" mask on to save his sorry ass. That is the one good thing about a concern troll- they are too stupid to maintain the facade.
@ Temujin:
The scientific method is — simply put — a process where someone (or a group of someones) has a hypothesis (not the same thing as a "theory" in science-speak) puts together an experiment and publishes observations, methodology and conclusions. In turn, others read the published information and they work to replicate the experiment and observations, and they publish their respective findings, and so on.
The result is that — through the process — bias ultimately is weeded out. Attempts to infiltrate the processes with ideology is weeded out. The scientific method is a process performed by imperfect humans, but the process itself doesn't care anything about politics or any other biases that may exist.
The idea that any given scientific observation/experiment has bias has merit. Absolutely that's a possibility. Probably a strong possibility. Maybe just as strong as the possibility that a given experiment/observation has a mistake, or forgot a bout a variable. But that's why scientists share their methods and results and conclusions. That's why these efforts get peer-reviewed. Any proclamation by anyone that "science proved" this, that or the other thing — especially when the results haven't been vetted via actual peer review — should be taken with a grain of salt.
Additionally, part of the problem is that folks will take a given published study and proclaim it as absolute. The various "viewpoints" about coffee/eggs/fat etc being good for you or bad for you isn't the fault of science, it's the fault of folks that don't understand that a published result and conclusion in any scientific journal - reputable or otherwise — is only the beginning of the process. But it sometimes isn't communicated as such. Media makes this error, and doesn't do a good enough job, in my opinion, of pointing out that the published report of - for example — coffee's "newly discovered benefits" isn't the be all-end all: there are additional studies that need to be done to determine if those benefits are truly present in coffee.
Companies, businesses and politicians like to spin early, unvetted results like that in their arguments that their product is the best one because "follow the science".
The biggest issue by far is I wonder how many people truly understand how the Scientific Method works, and what processes must be followed in order to effectively "follow the science". We all need to do a better job of understanding science and the scientific method. Then the charlatans peddling their various "perpetual motion machines" (or voter fraud), won't have the kind of luck that they do now
Folks really need to do more to understand how science actually works. A few days ago I’ve read posts about how sea levels were measured didn't take into account any of the actual processes that are done to determine those measurements. I don't know where individuals get their information from, but it's whacked. The scientific method weeds out the junk, the bias and the agendas. But it needs some effort and time to do so, it's not an "instant gratification" process. We all need to do a better job of not having knee-jerk reactions to what amounts to initial studies, and understand that the scientific method process itself works, and works quite well. You wouldn't be typing in this comments area if it didn't.
Gusty Winds ... we are in violent agreement.
--typing
If Rich himself bothered to understand the scientific method he would not have written his comment at 9:01.
Rich.
What?
Any discussion of climate change is incomplete without a look at what Judith Curry has to say about it. Not just her --Roger Pielke Sr and Jr, Richard Lindzen, lots of others-- but certainly her. Check out her new book, it will go a long way toward silencing the "Rich" and "Chuck" commenters.
"I would like to see the states where people pay 1500 per year on homeowners insurance"
Here's one.
"In California, the average annual home insurance premium is $1,300 today — up 16% from 2019 levels, according to the Insurance Information Institute, a group that represents the insurance industry."
"I think it will also be an incentive to people to build sturdier structures."
Florida dealt with that decades ago.
Here you go Rich. I know how interested you are in Florida's disaster preparedness, so here is Gov DeSantis' post - hurricane sitrep to alleviate your concern. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIvRAzR67m4. I guess Biden was up all night helping the governor fight his way through the storm.
Typing talker sez: "Florida residents are already spending an average of $6,000 dollars on home insurance policies, according to III, four times more than the average in other states." Bull shit. I live in central Florida and my insurance for house/auto combined is 1500 per year. My beach condo in Gulf Shores, Al is about the same for the same property valuation. So, I pay less than half your $6000 number for two pieces of property with a combined valuation of $1.3 mm. BTW, my property taxes are about 40% of what they were in NC.
You guys need to up your game and get more convincing lies.
Rich: Thanks for the tour of the scientific method. From where I've sat, it hasn't been used by our consensus scientists for quite some time. You know, the 97% we've been hearing about for 3 decades now. Funny how that percentage never changes.
Are you telling me that I need to follow the scientific method? I'm all in. Does that allow for opposing data to be included? Just wondering because there have been reams of opposing ideas, thoughts, data about the causes of climate change (including- get this- the sun) and most of those are considered heretical.
Do you think ideology ever works it's way into 'scientific' consensus? It's weird how these things get started by our institutions.
Climate related disasters.
Big Mike-
Hurricane codes are constantly updated in Florida. Just in the newish community I live in, the people who bought 3 years before us have windows rated at 125 mph. Mine are rated at 160 mph. Plus sleek elevations and rooflines are incentivized, reinforced concrete (cinder block) walls or steel framing, and hurricane straps to connect roofs to walls. And most new builds come with Hurricane shutters (residential). Flood codes updated for all new builds. We live, we learn, we make changes.
We don't need FEMA to figure this stuff out. But FEMA definitely has a place in disasters. I'm just not sure why they sometimes seem to not know what it is.
The whole thing on the scientific method seems like a coherent thought except it is incoherent to the discussion where it is posted. It like an old man yelling at the sky about nobody understanding him.
Then there is: We all remember from last year how much help from Biden De Santis needs when it comes to hurricanes.
None? I seem to recall DeSantis releasing part of Florida’s budget excess to rebuild the Pine Island Bridge, which was done in fewer days than it took Biden to finally visit the Lahaina disaster. Nobody expects help from Biden these days. We all saw the help he gave to Afghanistan. Ukraine only got help from Biden after firing Shokin. The notion that federal aid is a privilege given to those who vote the right way indicts the whole concept of it. That it comes slow and late for those who do vote the right way is just a mockery of aid.
Their expectations for Hillary are always higher than what's delivered.
Excellent wit, MB!
Their expectations for Hillary are always higher than what's delivered.
Excellent wit, MB!
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Rabel I call BS on that CA average provided. Whole zip codes are now zoned "fire hazard" and require a special policy, even if the actual neighborhood is miles from grass or forest. Ours started high and went UP by $3600 last year. At least I do border on the wilderness, but we used to get a discount with a 20 foot fire break, which we have, and now we don't. We've had to evacuate twice but never filed a fire claim. Maybe that average includes the "hazard insurance" that apartment dwellers and renters can buy. Ours is well over $8400 per year.
@Temijin, thanks fr the update. I was aware of most of that.
Hurricane 🌀 Idalia is pronounced like Italian, not like italics.
Just in case you’re saying it wrong.
Eric Erickson on the radio is getting on my last nerve.
Insurance- a necessary evil for most of us. I've been paying automatically for years. Just looked it up. Here in CNY I'm paying $391 a month for house and auto, which is replacement cost coverage on the house and contents, and $250. deductible for 3 cars, 2 drivers. Just under $1500. a year for the house insurance.
Now the replacement cost policy is a good choice. House market value- about $100,000. I paid $90,000 30 years ago. Estimated cost to rebuild- according to the insurance company- $450,000. Building new houses around here is a losing proposition for an investment. If you build new- plan on actually living here the rest of your life, and build it to last. But don't count on it appreciating.
jaydub wrote, "Bull shit."
Apparently, the word, "average" in the quote was missed as well as the source -- to which all wrath should be directed.
"I would like to see the states where people pay 1500 per year on homeowners insurance"
I paid $620 this year. Last year it was $400, but Bidenflation occurred.
"Rabel I call BS on that CA average provided."
Probably right. Let's use a more concrete example for the requester. Mine is $1400/yr. in Mississippi on a 220k+ home. Which, by the way, is $400 lower than I had last year with Nationwide, which is dumping policyholders around here as fast as they can.
Lot of thunderstorms in the last 3 or 4 years and the occasional devastating tornado. Lot of new roofs.
Is that video meant to be an extension of the "emanating from men's balls" post below?
Let's keep in mind that in the scientific method, computer models are hypotheses and not data. Our consensus scientists, government grifters, and propaganda-oriented media are pretending that models are data, rather than hypotheses.
The cool part is even if we treat model outputs as data (rather than hypotheses), all models have been falsified as they all run hot and do not accurately reflect real-world temps.
This was a very tight storm, and those of us like Aztec and myself on the banks of the wide St. Johns are just having a grey day with not much else to bear. Friends in Wakulla county are already home and report no power out in the interim.
Good news, all in all. I just pronounce Idalia like Vidalia, myself. Sweet onions. If you can pronounce Steinhatchee correctly, you're from down here.
I’m away from home but on my cameras there’s a few pinecones and some wind gusts. The cardinals are chirping… another hour or two and we’re clear
Blogger Mason G said...
"I would like to see the states where people pay 1500 per year on homeowners insurance"
My policy just renewed in July of 2023 for a $550,000 home in Waukesha County, WI. Yearly premium for 2023-2024 $1650. $1000 deductible. Property taxes are $5500, so basically 1%.
Locked in at 2.625% in 2021 to buy out my ex. I'm good with it. Property values rising because of safety and location. Great school district without woke issues. Lot's of open land for new construction which is the majority of houses on the market. Figure everyone locked in during the 2021 low interest rates, and nobody is selling existing homes.
I'm on high ground so my sump pump has cobwebs. But...I put up with Wisconsin winters. That's just indoor drinking season.
You can bury me in my backyard when the ground thaws in the spring.
I have three cousins that are successful spec home builders in SE Wisconsin. They do a lot of the work themselves. Their advice is avoid new construction built during COVID or just after. Lumber, trusses, and everything went through the roof (pun intended); like 3x.
They tell me contractors cut a lot of corners and bought low quality material. What you could buy new in 2019 and 2020 for 500K was better quality than $650K in 2021-2022.
Materials market has softened so they are back to building. Did remodels during COVID. Despite the 7% interest rates people are still buying new construction around here. Being "just far enough away" from Milwaukee and their bullshit helps my community a great deal.
Milwaukee County just bordering our east is not experiencing the same market. Safety, and safe schools matter.
Where I live even the drunk drivers to the speed limit.
It's a good thing global warming is a George Soros funded liberal conspiracy… ;^)
The Earth's climate's been changing for 4.6 billion years. STFU and deal with it.
Gusty Winds...
The "I would like to see the states where people pay 1500 per year on homeowners insurance" comment was made by someone else, I quoted it with a reply noting that my insurance this year (house valued at $300k or so in Idaho, BTW) was $620.
"The Earth's climate's been changing for 4.6 billion years. STFU and deal with it."
For progressives, history is only relevant to the extent they can manipulate it for their purposes. Learning or understanding anything from it? No f'n way.
“Eric Erickson on the radio is getting on my last nerve.”
Just be thankful he’s not standing on it, the fat prick.
I live very close to the coast in Naples, and my house did not flood in Ian. Yes, my insurance is high, but I think it’s a scam. My house was built in 1955. The value of my property would be higher if I tore down the house and sold the empty lot.
Lloyd's of London offers Florida home insurance that is much cheaper than U.S. companies. I saved a huge amount the year the federal government stopped subsidizing coastal insurance -- a fair thing to do, a good lesson for me in the ways government interventions affect personal decisions. You have to accept financial risk to live near the ocean, or in a forest, or by a large river, or in a city, unless you're living off other people.
Who says Gulf temperatures are the highest they've ever been? We didn't develop good methods for measuring or tracking hurricanes until the 1920's, and even then landfall records were spotty. The population of much of Florida was small until mosquito control. But, exactly like the Netherlands, Florida is adapting reasonably, far more for population growth than climate variation.
In the early 19th Century, DDT, livestock fencing laws, and drainage ditches built Florida. Houses on stilts, cheap polycarbonate hurricane shutters, and mitigation laws like they require in Miami will bring it through the 21st. Century. It's still a remarkably young place to live in. It was mostly frontier little more than 100 years ago.
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