Writes Camilla Long, in "If you sign up to work in the seedy world of Lizzo, you must expect some XXXL lunacy" (London Times).
I think, when they signed up to work for her, these women expected Lizzo to be the queenly, inclusive, superhuman, empowered, 100 per cent that bitch she constantly droned on about being. What in fact she apparently enjoyed doing was visiting sex clubs, making sex jokes, snogging her boyfriend in public and shrieking at people. We are told, for example, how Lizzo invited her dancers to a banana-themed sex club in Amsterdam. She “cheered loudly to motivate employees to eat bananas protruding from performers’ vaginas”; she “hounded” — hounded — them to “catch dildos” fired across the room. She also goaded one of the dancers to touch a nude performer’s breasts; they became so frightened of the singer they had no idea how to stand up to her. At one point one of them wet herself during a rehearsal because she was too scared to go to the loo....
Read any section of the court filings and you will be blown away by the indelible stupidity and wetness of the dancers, who at one point claim that listening to “explicit songs” on the tour bus made them “fear for their safety”. Have they heard Lizzo’s lyrics? My feeling is these dizzy jellies can keep each other.
Long makes interesting points, but you can only get so far with this "what did you expect?" argument! The dancers were employees, and if you take a job anticipating that your employer will not follow legal standards, you are not precluded from suing if what happens is just what you expected. The only questions are what really happened and whether it violated legal standards. But then maybe all Long wants to say is that she doesn't care about the dancers' complaints any more than she cares about Lizzo. That's not a legal argument, that's an argument in the court of public opinion.
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With obesity comes decadence.
Is it just me or is it painful for everyone to actually look at that woman?
"The world Lizzo has built around herself is essentially a cult"
Whatever she's built around herself, I'm 99% sure it doesn't contain a salad bar.
The bananas in vaginas thing would be covered under improper touching.
there's a fine line between culture and cult.
You might have to expect some XXXL lunacy when you're around Lizzo, but that's not the same thing as putting up with it. Nobody has to do that.
There's a geopolitical consultant named Peter Zeihan who gives presentations explaining how, in less than a century, China will have transitioned from a preindustrial agricultural economy to the world's factory, and in the next decade all the way back to chaos and food insecurity. Something analogous is happening in the US. In 100 years the US will have transitioned from the world's most bourgeois, religious nation into its foremost practitioner of decadence. Cultural change, like economic change,is accelerating. Buckle your seatbelt.
It is with a sigh of relief that I can honestly ask, "Who?" about this post.
I'm shocked that a wealthy celebrity behaves badly.
Althouse is the one place where, if someone mentions cults being embedded in different parts of our society today - and no one mentions me as having told you that over a decade ago - I feel like I've failed.
I've only seen photos of Lizzo and know nothing about her other than she's some kind of fat cult figure. I just now learned about this "banana split" thing and wish that particular tidbit had remained private because from now on I will have to avert my eyes when I walk past the fruit section of the grocery so as not to throw up a little in my mouth.
Lizzo, a very obese woman “fat shaming” rather overweight women dancers who appear to weigh less than her. Has she not looked in a mirror or photos of herself lately? It is just one symptom of the upside-down world that we find ourselves living in this past decade - the “mostly peaceful riots” of 2020, where criminals are victims and their victims are ignored like a used facial tissue while the police are considered 100% evil, and where it appears that the president is so openly corrupt yet the MSM sees no evil, hears no evil, and speaks no evil despite hard evidence and he and his family’s own words and records, and yet reports gleefully every negative item, no matter how insignificant, of his political opponents, even neutral whistleblowers who have dead to rights hard evidence on him.
Tired of living in Lizzo's shadow....
Black culture at its finest.
The article is basically arguing that the rules shouldn't apply to Lizzo because she's one of the cool kids.
Josephine Baker is spinning in her grave.
Love Camilla Long’s columns. Always spot on. This one was particularly mean and wonderful and correct.
It needs to be understood that the people who tend to reach the heights of the entertainment world are those that are willing to do anything to achieve their goals and can still function after being abused. Normal people will often balk when some person who can make or break their career demands something they are not willing to do, assuming they are even willing to enter the cesspit in the first place. Those that give in reluctantly often end up with drug addictions or worse. This is a culture that rewards the sociopaths, the psychopaths, and the weirdos. There are some normal people who manage to succeed without being corrupted or ruined, but it is a difficult task.
If you think Hollywood is bad, it is worse than you think.
Lizzo checks a lot boxes. Human nature will do what human nature does when granted privileges.
FAT!!!
Seeing Camilla Long's picture makes me wonder whatever happened to Titania McGrath.
No wonder that freak shows can't compete with modern culture.
A man needs to know his limits. So does a woman.
It's not about the fat, it's about the trangressiveness. If every authentic body is beautiful, must it not also be true for every authentic behavior? To have norms is to judge, and that's the worst sin of all. All cultures/behaviors are equal, right?
Heck, Marcus Aurelius said that the world is not waiting to be judged by you, and when he says it I nod. Omerta is the code of the artist who wants to work. That's what got Weinstein to the top. Let's see how fungible that proves to be, considering his fate. I encourage all participants to "show their work".
"if you take a job anticipating that your employer will not follow legal standards, you are not precluded from suing if what happens is just what you expected"
It seems that the entertainment industry is widely and quite publicly exempt from usual employment legal standards on all sorts of issues, especially sexual and physical harassment.
Aren't we trained to say "Ha, ha, employees of entertainers have to put up with all sorts of abuse as part of their deal."
You can't un-see this horror, so don't blame me if you look:
https://tinyurl.com/y6evmmun
Anna Keppa, "You can't un-see this horror, so don't blame me if you look"
As they said in Jaws, "We're gonna need a bigger plane!"
I had to blink a few times to make sure of what I was seeing: Crack is back!
"Tired of living in Lizzo's shadow...."
A short plane flight (well- *a* plane flight, anyway) will solve that problem. Probably.
I'm old enough to remember former Miss America Vanessa Williams, and what she got in trouble for.
"This is a culture that rewards the sociopaths, the psychopaths, and the weirdos."
So you're saying I still have a chance?
It needs to be understood that the people who tend to reach the heights of the entertainment world are those that are willing to do anything to achieve their goals and can still function after being abused.
My very thought, along with the poster who pointed out that the entertainment industry has long been known to violate all sorts of employment standards, rules, and laws. I like some of Lizzo's songs - they're very catchy and they have a brashness that's fun. But I'm sure working for her was a shitshow, just as I'm sure working for Madonna or Taylor Swift or - hmm, I seem to be gravitating to the female performers. Maybe I figure that the "You'll do it and you'll like it, or you're out" sensibility among male rock performers is applied against their groupies rather than dancers; and I haven't seen many performances of male pop stars (my daughter liked to see the women performers better, and my sons didn't do concerts until they were in college) to know whether they usually have dancers. (Basically I think it comes down to advances in amplification and AutoTune, such that "singers" barely have to sing any more but are definitely expected to be able to dance, very vigorously, while "singing.")
Also, yay, Crack is back! I always love when he (I think he) resurfaces. Nice to hear from you!
I’m done with people describing things as cults. Just sets off my BS alarms.
Thanks, Anna… but you did warn us.
Fortunately for me I don't know what a "Lizzo" is, but I'm sure this is exciting new for someone who cares.
"The World Lizzo Has Built Around Herself..."
A delightful sentence-starter.
Anyone ever seen Chris Christie and Lizzo in the same room at the same time?
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