So ends an effective 10-minute ad from the Trump campaign, which you can view at "Trump Campaign: Democrats "Violently Claimed The Last Three Republican Presidential Wins Were Stolen" (RCP).
I don't see the factual basis for "Violently Claimed." But maybe that's the point. To get people — including Trump opponents — to react, thus upping the virality of the video. And it's predictable what the answer will be: Trump is accused of violence, when his claims about the election were not violent. It's just the fair play of turnabout.
What I like about that 10-minute video is the meaty montage of prominent Democrats claiming — over and over — that the 2000, 2004, and 2016 presidential elections were stolen. Every time, in this century, that the Republican won, Democrats persisted in claiming they'd actually won. They firmly voiced their belief — real or fake — that the election was stolen. And some of that was clearly fake. They knew the claim that the Russians colluded was a lie. How could they not?
By the way, I'd embed that 10-minute video here if I had the code, but RCP doesn't offer embed code, and I've looked elsewhere. I couldn't find it at Truth Social, it's not at Trump's YouTube account, and I've tried Googling.
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"Like a third-world corrupt dictator, Biden will use any means necessary to stop the one Republican he knows he can't beat."
I blame Hillary as much as Joe
Every time I see Bill Clinton, I'm reminded he raped three women, and what the Democrat party is all about.
How anyone sides with them, I cannot understand.
There was a lot of violence at Trump's inauguration.
All government is force.
"They firmly voiced their belief — real or fake — that the election was stolen. And some of that was clearly fake. They knew the claim that the Russians colluded was a lie. How could they not?"
What difference, at this point, does it make? As Harry Reid said about his Romney tax lie, Mitt didn't become president, did he?
It's nice of the RCP to put out this video. But it is also pathetic, compared to the entire prog propaganda apparatus that sustains Dem lies.
None of this really matters. Democrat electeds have been proven to be corrupt, hypocritical, liars, incompetent, Marxists, anti-Semitic, anti-Christian, racist, anti-constitutional, etc.
Democrats don't care. They care about unprotected sex without consequences, maiming children and preserving open borders and declining cities.
Biden will use any means necessary to stop the one Republican he knows he can't beat
This kind of nonsense only turns off people from supporting Trump.
Biden beat Trump last time sitting in his basement. A drooling brain-dead Biden will beat Trump again. Face it, despite the sycophants, there are not enough people who will vote for Trump - ever again - for him to prevail. Trump was a LOSER last time. The people he promoted in 2022 were major LOSERS also. And Trump has done NOTHING to gain votes since then.
I don't see the factual basis for "Violently Claimed."
I guess that to maintain your good standing as a feminist you have to overlook the pussy hat rioting during Trump’s inauguration, the cars being set afire, and all that.
Did those Democrats claiming these elections were stolen have a plot to use fake electors? Did they ask a Secretary of State to “find” thousands of votes for them? Trump isn’t being prosecuted for saying the election was stolen, he is being prosecuted for breaking laws trying to get an election overturned and trying to illegally negate millions of legal votes cast for his opponent. He committed crimes trying to overturn an election, the Democrats who said elections were stolen did not. That’s a huge difference.
As Harry Reid said about his Romney tax lie, Mitt didn't become president, did he?
Reid isn't the reason the Weasel lost. It was totally foreseeable that Romney would be a complete disaster on election day. People didn't listen then. They better listen about Trump now or we are certain to have President Harris.
That the ad would "hard for to find" is typical of anything to do with the Republican party and Trump's political campaign. They're kings of incompetence. In fact the RNC and Republican political gurus are such clowns and are constantly fuzzing up their messages and hitting soft, that you'd think they were working for the other team.
Or running a grift.
Again, you take Trump, the man, out of the republican party and you got nothing. A bunch of losers who love losing.
BTW, I love RCP - its the only political website that aren't leftwing hacks or DNC Shills.
I don't see the factual basis for "Violently Claimed." -Althouse
There were riots during Trumps and W Bushes inaugurations by the Black Block supporters of Democrats who claimed that the elections were illegitimate. Thats been memory holed by the press and social media companies.
The media didn't report on all the violence after Trump won. They were too busy crying and blaming him for everything that Hillary did. The riot at his inauguration was more of an insurrection than ANYTHING that happened on January 6th...but the media and the progressives in this country keep closing their eyes and pretending it never happened.
And YouTube keeps taking down the 8-minute montage of Democrats saying the elections they lost were rigged. The memory hole is the most important part of doing journalism now.
This is a nice meassage, showing the Democrats are hypocrites. But it ignores the real problem. Biden, Merrick Garland, and the Demcocrats abusing their power, and turning the USA into a Banana Republic.
They are destroying the rule of law. Its unheard of for a POTUS to use his DOJ to destroy the leading candidate who's about to run against him. And even more norm-busting, this man is the ex-POTUS.
McConnell and the House should be starting impeachment inquiries. But they have done nothing. This will never stop if the R's don't do something. I guess they are OK with D's deciding who the R's can run for office. And putting R's in jail for bullshit reasons.
People just won't wake up. Like those dead men in Maui, they thought they could just vote D or ignore Politics. Because we can trust the Left in power. Well, they found out the truth.
Inga - Trump didn't do much of anything beyond speaking. He uses language in a way that hurts him and leaves him vulnerable to the corrupt left.
Blogger Rusty said...
All government is force.
Amen, Rusty. I would add "potentially deadly" before force.
If you do not comply, the force will continue escalating until govt kills you.
It seldom gets that far because govt has a lot of ways to use force short of killing. They don't hesitate to kill when it becomes necessary, though.
Just ask Ms Weaver
Just ask Ashli Babbit
Just ask that veteran they killed last week.
Just ask President Emeritus Trump who is, potentially, on trial for his life on the "Deprivation of Rights" charge:
18 U.S. Code § 242 - Deprivation of rights under color of law
shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.
Does anyone really think they won't drag this out if all other attempts fail to stop him?
Or that lots of people, including some commenters here, will not cheer wildly when they do?
John Henry
The collective hivemind Maddow left STILL believe the Russian collusion hoax.
Propaganda works well on loyal minds.
"What I like about that 10-minute video is the meaty montage of prominent Democrats claiming — over and over — that the 2000, 2004, and 2016 presidential elections were stolen. Every time, in this century, that the Republican won, Democrats persisted in claiming they'd actually won. They firmly voiced their belief — real or fake — that the election was stolen. And some of that was clearly fake. They knew the claim that the Russians colluded was a lie. How could they not?"
Sorry Ann, you and Republicans engaging are in whataboutism. There is no need for the Democrats to answer any charges of hypocrisy.
Blogger rcocean said...
People just won't wake up. Like those dead men in Maui, they thought they could just vote D or ignore Politics.
To some extent the cynic might say those dead men and women got what was coming to them as a logical result of their actions.
But children don't vote and it was not their fault. It now looks like hundreds, maybe a thousand, children suffered horribly as they were burned alive. Let that sink in.
What did they do to deserve that death by holocaust?
If you think that hundreds, maybe even a thousand children burned alive is an exaggeration, why will they not release any figures? It's not like they don't know by now. Not down to an exact number. Many of those children did not leave enough ashes to even identify as human remains.
They know within 10% or better. They are scared to say.
And damned well should be
John Henry
Google is ACTIVELY removing these video montages. That's why you cannot find them.
Stop acting like you live in a free country, Ann.
You don't.
it's not just the violence differential, of course. democrats also didn't submit false electoral votes in 7 states hoping their VP would choose to count the false ones instead of the certified ones.
but go ahead and keep pretending it's all the same if you want
The worst reaction to Trump's 2020 legitimate Presidential election was the pussy hat.
Mark: "This kind of nonsense only turns off people from supporting Trump."
Pointing out the Biden police state has nothing to do with support for Trump. Neither does calling attention to election rigging.
People won't vote for Trump because he has been demonized by Democrats and their pet media. People who vote for Biden are elites, morons, fictitious or people who have been paid to do so - many times. But that isn't the bottom line.
Our last legitimate presidential election was 2016. Dems got smug and careless. It won't happen again.
What The Crack Emcee said. Both times.
And I'll toss in one more. How can anyone who cares about kids and Black families and says they want change, can keep on voting for the party that blocks school choice and is bought and paid for by the teachers unions, is beyond me. It's like people are hypnotized into doing things that will keep them in place.
Inga- Democrats worked furiously trying to get Electors to change their votes in 2016. They did so in public, and with the help of finely produced Hollywood videos featuring actors and rock stars. I can pretty much guarantee you, they also did it with non-public threats, both to their jobs and/or their personal safety. This is how Democrats operate. But when you own the media, when the media is you, there is no accountability for what you do. And you know it. So you can just do what you want. Even take millions from foreign nationals knowing the media and DoJ will cover for you as long as they can.
I don't want Trump. But I can clearly see that the Democrats are going too far, too in-your-face-America with their corruption. And it's going to backfire, making Trump, not only the GOP candidate, but the next President. Which...compared to what we have now, will be very much a net positive.
Lads. Calm down.
When Althouse says she doesn't see a factual basis for "Violently Claimed", she's talking about in the *ad, not in real life.
It's exhausting how often you guys misread her and jump on her shit.
Not a Trump fan personally, but I liked his policies. But what the Ds are doing here is despicable. They have succeeded in lowering the bar for contemptuous behavior.
"Did those Democrats claiming these elections were stolen have a plot to use fake electors?"
In 1960, Hawaii sent two slates of electors. It was left, as directed in the Constitution, for the House to judge. Nobody went to jail.
Hmmm. I wonder if they got the idea from the actual US Constitution?
Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress
Nothing about insurrection in 1960, or in 1876, for that matter. This whole idea is something new concocted to find a way to conveniently disqualify Trump. If what Trump did was illegal, why was the Electoral Count act, which is probably unconstitutional, even necessary? If your answer is that it was needed to clarify the process, then plain as day, what Trump did was not "clearly illegal" and if it was not "clearly illegal," and it followed precedents from 1876, and 1960, as well as opinions from the SCOTUS in Bush v Gore regarding the prerogatives of state legislatures in sending slates of electors to the House, calling it an "insurrection" is baseless.
At worst, it's an unsettled question.
Even Jimmy Carter got in on the fake Russian collusion bullshit and publicly claimed Trump lost the 2016 election and was an "illegitimate" President.
"Like a third-world corrupt dictator,"
Half the time, we were giving those dictators orders, so don't act so surprised. Look at the cable that got leaked where we threatened Pakistan with severe consequences if they didn't remove Imran Khan, and oh by the way, imprison him, and bar the most popular politician in Pakistan from running for office again.
The dems are the party of the Big Lie. The Big Lie is that republicans are evil racists and misogynists whose ultimate goals are to reinstitute slavery and create something like the society portrayed in the Handmaid's Tale. They have sold a large number of particularly stupid young people on this understanding of the GOP. Having done so, they now believe they can operate with complete impunity in essentially trying to criminalize "conservative" ideas (which I put in quotes because these mainly consist of classically liberal ideas). They know that, at this point, most dems will blindly accept the truth and merit of ANY policy, statement, or argument put forward by the political/corporate leadership of the dem party simply because it did not come from a republican. Hence, they accept high inflation, high rates of violent crime, record levels of drug abuse and homelessness, the failure of public schools to educate children, pornography in school libraries, open borders, lending financial and military support to the Taliban, a disastrous pullout from Afghanistan that left hundreds of Americans behind, the normalization of shoplifting and other crimes as a means of dispensing social justice, etc., just because the GOP stands in opposition to all of these things.
Mark may not realize that the point of Joe Biden’s Basement was the lack of communicating with and being questioned by the press. The media knows the questions that each will tick off half of the country, and they spared Biden the negative reactions.
They only went after Trump, which was one of several fingers on the election scale.
Maybe Mark does realize and posted anyway.
And Trump has done NOTHING to gain votes since then.
Lefty Mark and the Dullard see no reason to vote for Trump and, of course, see no reason for anyone else to do so. They are content with the millions of unvetted, untested illegals flooding the country. They have no problem with 15% inflation and interest rates of 7%. They don't understand why anyone would be alarmed by the loss of our energy independence, or even the sale of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to China. $5 gas is no problem for them. The chaos in the Democrat cities is no problem because Igna lives in a white city. Mark probably has a government job with full benefits and a pension that is adjusted for inflation. Trump is just a boogie man to them.
They are such children. Just listen to them.
There is no debating children, they know what they know, they know what they want, they know you are wrong, wrong, wrong and also they hate you. You belong on the guillotine but they will accept prison for you to show how civilized and tolerant they are.
R's are idiots.
Why isn't the Biden impeachment and Hunter investigation on a slow boil ready to ramp up as the Trump trials get started.
It's called counter-programming.
Why haven't they released the J6 Capitol tapes?
Why haven't they called Pelosi, the DC mayor, and the head of the Capitol police to testify under oath?
This is why democrats are winning.
I agree with The Crack Emcee.
If you vote Democrat, you ain’t female.
Yes Inga, on multiple occasions.
The transcripts of Trump’s discussion is clear and what he was asking. He knew fraud had happened. He knew there were illegal votes. He was asking Raffensberger who is the moron who with Kemp got rolled by that fat tub of goo, resulting in the state of Georgia violating its own election law to review votes. But you’re too fucking stupid to have the capacity to understand grown up stuff.
It is not in doubt that multiple states violated their own election law, fraud or not. Fucking assholes.
Good video, though I was expecting riot videos from the 2016 inaugiration. Probably a good call to leave them out.
Also - I think Biden's remark about literally convincing Strom to vote for the Civil Rights Act has to have caused at least some Democrats to change their mind about his continued fitness (I'm afraid to mention it to my wife who hates Trump and cliengs to the belief that Biden is still menatially competent).
Roll the riot film from Jan 20, 2017 if you want to see the violence. Don’t let them lie to you that there was no violence.
Probably another instance of being taken off youtube because of “violent, hateful encouragement of violence” bullshit.
Another right-wing rabbit-hole false equivalency. Stay off Fox for an hour or two.
Gore went to court, lost and conceded immediately. Trump is 60+ cases in (with judges he appointed) and Trump's got niente. Nada. Zip. Bupkis. Is your idea that Presidential candidates can do whatever they want while running?
I love the term ‘whataboutism’. It reveals a complete inability for logical thought.
Trump can’t be guilty as Biden hasn’t been found guilty; Trump shouldn’t be charged as once he was wrongly accused; Trump shouldn't be charged as maybe the charges won't stick; it was okay for the US to overthrow the Iraqi government yet Trump isn’t allowed to over throw the US government.
Violence, threats of violence and over-heated rhetoric are Democrats’ stock in trade. Anyone who can’t see that is willfully blind.
For me the explanation hasn't changed since Trump got elected President. He's a political outsider. He is not protected by the political establishment. There is a bipartisan conspiracy to keep the corruption and incompetence of career politicians out of the public eye. As long as you pay your dues, and toe the party line, you'll be allowed certain excesses in office.
Trump is getting prosecuted for the same reason all his corruption and incompetence kept getting reported in the news, while establishment politicians continued to fly under the radar.
“Did those Democrats claiming these elections were stolen have a plot to use fake electors? Did they ask a Secretary of State to “find” thousands of votes for them?”
“Yes Inga, on multiple occasions.”
No, they didn’t. Now go find instances to back up your ridiculous assertion.
"People who vote for Biden are elites, morons, fictitious or people who have been paid to do so - many times."
Got any proof supporting that "many times?"
As for those who vote for Biden, they are certainly misguided if they think he is an objectively good president (or has ever been a good man or politican). However, I suspect the majority who did and who will again vote for him do so primarily to keep Trump out of office, who (it seems so far) may be the Republican candidate. That's why most Biden voters in 2020 were Biden voters. They were actually NOT-TRUMP voters.
"For me the explanation hasn't changed since Trump got elected President. He's a political outsider. He is not protected by the political establishment. There is a bipartisan conspiracy to keep the corruption and incompetence of career politicians out of the public eye. As long as you pay your dues, and toe the party line, you'll be allowed certain excesses in office.
"Trump is getting prosecuted for the same reason all his corruption and incompetence kept getting reported in the news, while establishment politicians continued to fly under the radar."
A fair and an accurate assessment.
“Inga- Democrats worked furiously trying to get Electors to change their votes in 2016.”
They they get FAKE electors? No. Did they try to get a Vice President to reject the real electors votes? No.
Mark said...
"Biden will use any means necessary to stop the one Republican he knows he can't beat
This kind of nonsense only turns off people from supporting Trump."
No it doesn't.
“Lefty Mark…”
One again the senile doctor mistakes RIGHTY Mark for lefty Mark. Is it too hard to click on the profile?
"Did they ask a Secretary of State to “find” thousands of votes for them?"
They sought the number of votes they would need to change the outcome, just like Trump did. That's the normal way to contest the announced outcome of the election. They try to "find" the needed votes that they're hoping/guessing are out there to be found. What's wrong with that? Just cut out the bullshit and look straight at the actual problem. Spare me the political theater and start prioritizing truth.
The prosecutor thinks otherwise. It’s up to the jury to pass a verdict. What are you afraid of? Why do you not at least respect the courts?
Trump and Giuliani both speaking in 3rd person this week. Georgia thinks they are both guilty.
i do agree that it's smart of him not to acknowledge what he's actually charged with
Leftists and fake Republicans use every opportunity to attack Trump. If some crazy D shot Trump, they'd talk about how Trump's rhetoric caused it.
Every topic and every event is a opportunity to dis or attack Trump.
We get it assholes, You don't like Trump. You like Biden but wont say it. stop being dishonest.
If sending a false slate of electors is a crime, some folks in Georgia, Michigan and Pennsylvania should be facing jail time - they all clearly fudged the vote counts to send false (Biden) electors instead of the true Trump ones.
“…start prioritizing truth.”
Oh please. If you were prioritizing truth you wouldn’t be politicizing crimes.
Mark (for the record- that was not Lefty Mark who made the comment above),
Tell us which Republican candidate can beat Biden or Harris given the mail-in-voting fraud?
I’ll sit down on this bank of sand and watch the river flow…
the Raffensperger call, of course, had three parts
in part one, then POTUS Trump claims that he's actually won in Georgia by a huge margin and lays out a bunch of theories of fraudulent ballots etc.
in part two, Trump talks about how much legal trouble Raffensperger will be in if he signs off on a fraudulent vote count
up to this point, someone can argue in good faith that Trump is just trying to make sure that Raff is doing his job, checking into everything, etc. to my ear it sounds more like the mob boss saying "nice political career you have, shame if somebody prosecuted you for it" which of course makes sense, the mob boss speaks in these vagaries specifically to be able to say in court "oh your honor I definitely was just looking out for their well-being, definitely not a threat at all how could anyone possibly believe that". but I would have to admit, if the call stopped here, that even though I was convinced it constituted illegal attempts to interfere with election officials that it would be a very difficult case to prosecute and probably wouldn't pursue it on that basis alone
unfortunately for him, in part 3 Trump asks Raff to just give him 11780 votes which is one more than he needs and he will take care of the rest. but in part 1 we see that Trump does not claim that this would be an accurate vote count and in part 2 he knows that it would be illegal for Raff to submit a specific vote count that Trump does not claim to believe is accurate. so it looks to me like he walked into a trap that he laid for himself while loudly proclaiming how much it was someone else's fault, which is something he seems to do a lot of, and then get praised for by his supporters, which is surreal to watch
anyway Ann, i miss the days when i could read analysis like this on your blog, but i hope you are enjoying your retirement and cruel neutrality
What are you afraid of? Why do you not at least respect the courts?
Nope. Not in Washington, DC, not in New York City, and not in Fulton County, Georgia.
Rich said...
Another right-wing rabbit-hole false equivalency. Stay off Fox for an hour or two.
"Gore went to court, lost and conceded immediately. "
Jesus, but you're a witless tool. Gore demanded and got three seperate recounts. One the whole state and two partial recounts. He finally conceded on Dec.13. When it became obvious that a fourth and independent recount came out for Bush. Why do you lie? Do you think nobedy here is as smart as you?
The progs have set the idea that speech is violence, so their angry speech about stolen elections is violence. Of course, there were those riots the day of Trump's inauguration.
"WASHINGTON, D.C. - Standing atop a large dais being held up by dozens of American citizens, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and Ilhan Omar unveiled a new flag they felt best represented the Democratic party's goal for the role of government. Centered in the bright yellow flag was an image of a snake being squashed under a bureaucrat's polished shoe, above the printed phrase, "Tread On Me."
https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-unveil-tread-on-me-flag
“Yes Inga, on multiple occasions.”
No, they didn’t.
“…start prioritizing truth.”
Oh please. If you were prioritizing truth you wouldn’t be politicizing crimes.
Classic leftist impervious to facts. You have it backwards of course: or you wouldn't be criminalizing politics, normal run of the mill politics. The correct term is "alternate electors" and they have been employed many times in history including JFK in HI and Al Gore in FL -- because without the alternate electors if you prevail in court there is no one to represent the candidate in the electoral college. Learn about the USA. Get a clue.
Have you never seen these? [Hell, even I forgot Kerry did it too in 2004!]
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-election-contested-examples-idUKKBN2781GK
https://www.dailysignal.com/2021/01/04/in-past-20-years-democrats-objected-3-times-to-electoral-college-certifications/
https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-faithless-electors-2016-story.html4
Coming out of ignorance can only help you make better arguments. At least you might understand why we say the GA case is flawed since Fani Willis is attempting to make this common political practice a crime, just as MI is doing to the electors themselves.
Why wasn't a crime when Kerry and Gore and Kennedy did it?
Inga,
Just explain 1960 Hawaii.
Were the alternate electors of the Democrats "fake electors" and should have been jailed?
But wait, the vote changed, and suddenly they were the real electors..
Then should the GOP electors who had been the "real electors" prior to the vote count changing, they are the fake electors now, and should be jailed, despite thinking they were real electors...
or...maybe you set up provisional electors, that will become real electors if the count changes, and no laws were broken.
You need to be coherent and explain why 1960 Democrat and GOP electors were not charged.
Why do you not at least respect the courts?
The video is the answer of only you would watch it and comprehend.
11:42 - Ann Althouse.
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Matt Orfalea posted a montage on his YouTube channel of both democrats and Trump claiming election fraud. YouTube took down the video and then restored it back up on appeal, only to demonize it again.
Here’s a link to Orfalea’s Substack: https://open.substack.com/pub/censorednews/p/youtube-secretly-labeled-my-video?r=ncvsu&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post
It’s just too bad that there can’t be an honest debate about the issues that our country faces. We’re sidetracked by these courtroom sideshows that are ginned up to avoid the necessary debates. Dems are afraid, and given their leaders (visible or not) and their anti-American (ex. CRT, cancel culture), anti-humanity (ex. genital mutilation, anti-fossil fuels) platform, they should be. I honestly don’t see how they can’t be totally ashamed of themselves for getting so off track.
Trump free to spout off. Good luck persuading juries in DC and GA that's all the incumbendent POTUS was doing doing between November 2020 and January 2021. Meanwhile, in NY and FL....
"Just explain 1960 Hawaii.
Were the alternate electors of the Democrats "fake electors" and should have been jailed?"
If you want to amuse yourself- compare the Wikipedia page for the Presidential election in Hawaii in 1960 on the Wayback Machine- specifically, compare today's page with that from April 2019. Some busy bees been at work since about 2020.
Gore not only got multiple recounts, but he got the right to examine the circumstances of ballots.
"Oh please. If you were prioritizing truth you wouldn’t be politicizing crimes."
No. What you are doing is criminalizing politics.
“Just explain 1960 Hawaii.”
Another false equivalency. Here’s the difference.
1.Secrecy
In 1960 both parties chose to send their own electors. It was done openly, unlike in 2020 where it was done in secrecy. Why the secrecy? Knowledge of wrongdoing or illegality?
2.Recounts
In 1960 Hawaii had not even finished a recount. In 2020 Georgia had three recounts. Other states also had recounts. All states found that Biden was the winner.
3.False allegations of fraud. In 1960, neither party were saying there were fraudulent votes. In 2020, Trump lawsuits were all dismissed for lack of standing or evidence. Both Trump lawsuits that went before the USSC were dismissed.
"Why do you not at least respect the courts?"
Oh.God. That's funny. Like no judge has ever put their thumb on the scale of justice. I'm from back in the day when a DUI in Chicago cost $3000.00. $1500.00 for your lawyer and $1500.00 for the judge. Judges fought to get on traffic court.
The courts don't respect the law.
" in part 3 Trump asks Raff to just give him 11780 votes"
"Witness" taking some liberties..interpret accordingly.
Blogger Inga said...
“Lefty Mark…”
One again the senile doctor mistakes RIGHTY Mark for lefty Mark. Is it too hard to click on the profile?
I then explained why I assumed that was Lefty Mark. You are too stupid to understand that sort of thing.
The Crack Emcee said...
Every time I see Bill Clinton, I'm reminded he raped three women, and what the Democrat party is all about.
It was probably a lot more than three.
MK the abortionist again proves himself an ass, ignoring that I voted for Trump twice.
Like it or not, fair or not, Trump is toxic. He cannot win. And he only makes things worse for himself. Regardless of the fact that Biden is an obnoxious corrupt buffoon.
You dullards will only succeed in getting us a President Harris.
If you were prioritizing truth you wouldn’t be politicizing crimes.
If you were prioritizing truth, you wouldn't be criminalizing politics.
Yancey Ward said...
"Just explain 1960 Hawaii.
Were the alternate electors of the Democrats "fake electors" and should have been jailed?"
If you want to amuse yourself- compare the Wikipedia page for the Presidential election in Hawaii in 1960 on the Wayback Machine- specifically, compare today's page with that from April 2019. Some busy bees been at work since about 2020.
8/30/23, 1:55 PM
It's easier than looking at the Wayback Machine. If you look at the top right of the 1960 United States presidential election in Hawaii page, you will see a link for "view history". This is on every Wikipedia page and you can see the whole history of edits for each page. You can use the radio buttons next to the edit dates to compare selected revisions. (Button for that is at the bottom of the pages listing the edits.)
Democrats cheat in all elections. Its part of their essence. Theyre just suprised when they didnt cheat enough and lose.
Chicago will make one cynical.
Blogger Mark said...
MK the abortionist again proves himself an ass, ignoring that I voted for Trump twice.
Lefty Mark strikes out again. I knew I was right the first time. We have on ly ylour word, such as it is, about voting for Trump. Try not to be an asshole.
The alternate electors were not in secret. Drawn from local Republican volunteers as per usual. You lefties and your conspiracy theories.
It doesn't take many fraudulent votes to change the course of history.
Team LBJ stuffed 200 extra ballots in the famous ballot box 13 in Jim Well's county. LBJ won the Dem senate primary by 87 votes total out of half a million or so cast.
That got him 66% of the general vote, the Senate, majority leader and eventually the presidency.
And the 60,000 men of my generation killed in Vietnam. As well as perhaps millions of Vietnamese.
So when people say "no evidence of widespread fraud in 2020 I giggle. There was no evidence of widespread fraud in that primary election, either.
To be fair, there were plenty of allegations of fraud by both Stevenson and LBJ but, like 2020, no court ever found it.
Just 200 extra ballots.
And we got LBJ inflicted on us.
John Henry
“Lefty Mark strikes out again. I knew I was right the first time. We have on ly ylour word, such as it is, about voting for Trump. Try not to be an asshole.”
The senile doc continues to have difficulties looking at profiles and remembering past comments by fellow right wing commenters from years past that expressed right wing ideas and opinions. The senile doc can’t stand having anyone who disagrees with him and if one disagrees with him, according to senile doc’s reasoning skills, they must surely be a lefty.
Blogger Readering said...
Trump free to spout off. Good luck persuading juries in DC and GA that's all the incumbendent POTUS was doing doing between November 2020 and January 2021. Meanwhile, in NY and FL....
The jury in DC is a foregone conclusion. You know that and seem content with partisan juries that will ALWAYS convict a Republican and NEVER convict a Democrat. Do you consider that a triumph of Justice ?
Mary Beth, you are right- I forgot about that feature of Wiki. I even used it a few weeks ago on some page that was getting updated every minute (something hot in the Wiki news). Getting old and forgetful
“The alternate electors were not in secret. Drawn from local Republican volunteers as per usual. You lefties and your conspiracy theories.”
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“I must ask for your complete discretion in this process. Your duties are imperative to ensure the end result – a win in Georgia for President Trump – but will be hampered unless we have complete secrecy and discretion.”
An email sent to fake electors by a Georgia campaign official, Robert Sinners on December 13 2020.
"Do you consider that a triumph of Justice ?"
It's a triumph when it benefits leftoid idiots. When it doesn't, it's a tragedy. You've got to give it to the left- when it comes to being two-faced, nobody does it better.
hey leftie Mark? (i mean the new one, not the old leftie Mark)..
According to YOU, which republican(s) do YOU think could be Biden/Harris?
I'm not really sure what happened to you (i assume you paid off), but you say some strange stuff now.
So, please explain.. In Your Own Words.. which republican is going to beat the democrat machine?
As a Trump critic, I have to concede that is an effective ad.
But why did they not include Don't Tase Me Bro?
https://youtu.be/r7Qef8oPmag?si=tL8cHJWdoAcsUCnb
The senile doc can’t stand having anyone who disagrees with him and if one disagrees with him, according to senile doc’s reasoning skills, they must surely be a lefty.
Not always. I even agree with Cook once in a while. But there is no doubt he's a lefty. With Mark, he has suddenly learned to speak lefty and I am used to such flips in the LLR types. He called me an "abortionist" and I did do a few in 1969 when I was a resident rotating on GYN. Nobody liked it and I felt I should help out with unpleasant tasks. Nowadays, your party is fighting to kill full term infants. I am still pro-choice up to about 15 weeks. I am not a hypocrite like you.
Mark said "Trump is toxic. He cannot win."
"The McLaughlin national survey finds Trump leads Biden 47% to 43% — up 2 points this month alone.
Even more remarkable, with our voter model for this poll we assigned 4 more points of Biden 2020 voters than Trump 2020 voters."
That's an electoral landslide that might even beat Reagan's.
First you need to legally define “fake electors”. You can’t, and you won’t.
In each lost election since at least 2000, the democrat party has presented “alternate electors”. This is done to preserve their options to overturn elections.
“No, they didn’t. Now go find instances to back up your ridiculous assertion.”
—- Nurse Wretched (another IgnaRant®)
"The McLaughlin national survey finds Trump leads Biden 47% to 43% — up 2 points this month alone"
You think Joe will be the nominee? That's just precious. Stay gold, Ponyboy.
The video of Democrats disputing the 2016 election results has been demonetized by YouTube.
They know
We know
They know we know
They don't care
I think it's cute you think one of the Republicans can overcome the election variant & the second steal.
There are 3 things I know are true.
1. There is a swamp
2. Trump isnt part of it.
3. Inga is vaxxed and been boosted often.
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