August 13, 2023

At the Sunday Night Café...

 ... you can talk about whatever you want.

64 comments:

William50 said...

Why has the PREP act been amended 11 times to accommodate COVID-19?

And yes, Pfizer is a 'covered person' according to the PREP act, but can they lose this coverage if they fail to deliver on their end of the deal?

By Dr. Jessica Rose

Substack Link

Buckwheathikes said...

We are the Nazi's now.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12402357/Newspapers-owner-dies-police-raid-seize.html

98-year-old Kansas newspaper owner dies after police raid to stop story being published.

"Eric Myer, 69, has bashed the officers for their 'Gestapo' tactics in an attempt to seize information that hadn't even gone to presses yet."

The NY Times' David Brooks wants to know if we are the baddies now.

Yes, David.

We are the baddies now. We are the Nazi's.

And we deserve their fate.

Chuck said...

So now Chick-fil-a faces a TrumpWing boycott.

The Epoch Times.

My calculation is that if perhaps crazed TrumpWinger who reads the Althouse blog might tell a dozen of their friends about the outrage of Chick-fil-a actually employing some corporate staff in the areas of diversity, equity and inclusion. And then those people will each tell another dozen people. And that the Conservative Treehouse, and The Gateway Pundit, and Breitbart will all pick up the story. And that dozen by dozen, a boycott will build.

So that I will no longer have to wait in drive-thru lines that loop all the way around the building to get a delicious chicken sandwich.

Rusty said...

Shot two rounds of skeet this morning 19 and 20.

Big Mike said...

I see that the death toll on Maui has been pegged at 93 for the past dozen hours or so. That’s already too high; I hope it goes no higher.

People were paid good salaries to do emergency management, and 93 people died because they were unprepared for this emergency. I hope there’s a serious examination of what went wrong and how to see to it that the inadequate warnings of which residents complained are never inadequate again.

The Crack Emcee said...

What's The Problem With Conservative White Guys?

NKP said...

People have always wondered whether buttons would be pushed in the silos and the subs if some deranged Commander-in-Chief said, "Do it".

I suspect most would. If you disagree, scale the situation down a bit.

Why do good people get up in the morning and go in to work at the Justice Department or the EPA or Pfizer or the University with never a hint about the crap being done there; nevermind a word of opposition.

I rant, along with many of you, against violence done to police officers and unfair accusations of bad police behavior. Underneath all that. There is, perhaps, a love/hate attitude about the police among many of us.

When are those cops at the pointy end of the stick going to start telling mayors, district attorneys and other controlling authorities to shove it or, at least, justify, a few midnight home invasions, arrests for "hate" speech and errant use of pronouns?

The cops should be a real line of defense for all of us. If they are committed doing the bidding of our increasingly corrupt government, what choice do individuals/families/tribes have when it comes to living as free people.

I don't have an answer but I beieve the slope is getting steeper and slipperier...




Big Mike said...

Infuriating article written by Abigail Anthony and published by Bari Weiss in her Free Press. I had thought that the notion of women as small, ill-formed, men was a thing we got rid of in the 1970s or 1980s at the latest. And her parents seem to have been as bad, maybe even worse, than the doctors:

But my parents told me I was suffering from perfectionist tendencies and an obsession with good grades. They instructed me to “stop being hysterical” and “pull myself together.” Nope. She had been suffering from endometriosis since she was 15. Very curable, and should not have been impossible to diagnose until a more thoughful gynecologist realized that something was wrong with her female organs.

I know what my wife went through back in the 1870s with doctors who knew far less about female health than they thought they did. To have a women to be "hysterical" or "psychogenic" when they present with pain.

I'll let doctors from the commentariat weigh in. Perhaps endometriosis is much, much, tougher to diagnose than it seems to me as a layman. But I'll bet not.

Yancey Ward said...

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Lem Vibe Bandit said...

Speaking of re-imagined ideals.

From r/bestconspiracymemes : Why they want you fat.

Eating stuff even a bear won't touch?

From the comments over there: I have to disagree with her because corporations only push the body positivity agenda on women, not on men.

Edit: Nevermind. I now agree with her. Women drive 70% to 80% of all purchasing decisions.
Women constitute the majority of consumption in the market even though women make less money than men in general. If you are a man in a relationship, I am sure you have heard women saying, "My money is my money, and your money is also my money." It makes sense that corporations are going after women. Yes, men earn more, but women are the ones with the power.,

The Vault Dweller said...

Hatch Chiles are in season. I picked up a few pounds. I'm going to try a Chorizo Strata with them. And then try roasting and freezing the rest.

Christy said...

Althouse, have you seen the Amazon tv ads for the Squatty Potty? I immediately thought of you, remembering your interest years ago in the ergonomics of facilitating healthy bowel movements.

Feel free to delete. I was just tickled to see it and had to tell you.

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

What do Budweiser vendors at Sturgis 2023 have in common with a Biden stump 2020?

(Sorry, Biden 2020 stumps appear to have been scrubbed from YouTube)

Missed opportunities: Republicans need to tie Biden to Woke promoted policies, failure to do so may very likely result in the implementation of such policies nationwide. (Even in the small towns)

Warning: the following videos may offend some viewers, discursion is avides.

Video: Australians are willing to stick their necks out.

Btw, the neck reference is not an inflammatory figure of speech.

Australian cops are some kind of fascists.

gilbar said...

so.. It looks like, that Hawaii wildfires are Grassfires.. Because the Pineapple and Sugar fields have been shut down, to be sold into housing.. And they're now (were) covered in tall grass (instead of pineapples and sugar cane).. Which is Very flammable.
So.. it's Not "Climate Change" or "Global Warming".. It's real estate speculation.
How Invasive Plants Caused the Maui Fires to Rage
A sweeping series of plantation closures in Hawaii allowed highly flammable nonnative grasses to spread on idled lands, providing the fuel for huge blazes.


I didn't read this in the NYTs.. I read it in some trashy right wing paper

gilbar said...

this, was Actually.. The First Time, that i've Ever Actually hear Vivek speak. (shame on Me!)
WATCH: A “pan-sexual” reporter tries to bait Vivek Ramaswamy at the Iowa State Fair
Instead, he delivers a masterclass on how to instantly turn the tables


Dave KEEPS saying about how Vivek is the best talker.. I'm starting to think he might be right.

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

Baseball: "Angel Hernandez (ump) is back and predictably as awful as ever"

Donning my tinfoil hat: Angel is being used to usher in an electronic strike zone, something akin to tennis. Otherwise, Angel would have been gone by now. He's been making bad calls since Shoeless Joe Jackson. I'm not kidding.

Eva Marie said...

My dream team would be Trump/Grenell. Grenell has had a good working relationship with Trump, wouldn’t overshadow him, doesn’t have Presidential ambitions of his own yet would make a very capable President. He has a lot of support in government and it’s the right kind of support - from the reform minded. Then I’d like Trump to appoint Ramaswamy to something complicated - transportation, or overhauling our regulatory mess. Something unglamorous but that would give Ramaswamy a chance to shine and build a nationwide coalition. RFK Jr head of the CIA - it should be a temporary position. Then a temporary position at the FDA. Attorney General - Peter Navarro. Trump needs a proven loyalist in that position.

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

The Hill Headline: "Feinstein fall gives Democrats a scare"

Senate Democrats got a scare this week when Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) was briefly admitted to the hospital after a fall at her home, underscoring the slim margins the party has when they return to Washington after Labor Day with an ambitious agenda on deck.

I get the impression a senate seat is like a throne, more important than the person holding it.

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

I can't follow the Hawaiian fire conspiracy theory.

To me, there's more fishy looking stuff with the Obama chef accidental death.

Word from my X has it that a Mass lab disposed of the decedent's blood analysis with their hazardous waste, by accident, of course. Nobody wants to cast aspersions on 8ft of water pond drowning a 6ft swimmer. If true, my X has been known to extrech the trux now and again.

Dave Begley said...

Saw Bobby Kennedy in Iowa tonight. Very interesting. Very much a populist. He’s not a nut. Also not senile. Smart, charming and genuine. I really liked him. He will beat Biden or give him a real run for his money. I don’t agree with him on everything, but if I was a Dem he’d get my vote in the primary.

He talked to some Iowa farmers earlier in the day. He’s very much against the carbon dioxide pipeline that firms want to build in Iowa and NE. I knew it to be a CAGW scam, but I didn’t know how bad it was. $178b subsidy by the federal government; 100% return for investors. I checked on this before and the guy running it is in Ames and he’s from the Street.

Bobby said 350,000 Ukrainians killed. Ike’s military-industrial complex speech is one of the most important speeches in history. Something like $8T spent by us on foreign wars this century and we have nothing to show for it.

He noted how our standard of living has declined from the 60s and 7Os. True. Young people aren’t proud of our country. Vivek has said this too.

One month before JFK was killed, he issued an Executive Order pulling out all 16,000 military advisers from Vietnam within one year. LBJ rescinded it and 250k men got sent to Vietnam. The Pentagon had pushed JFK to do that. Before RFK was killed, he had promised to end the Vietnam War. We know how that clusterfuck turned out. Same for Iraq.

Since I’ve seen Vivek three times, I can say these two have lots in common. Really.

RFK is very much in favor of cutting back on BlackRock’s influence. He kind of mislead the audience by stating BlackRock owned a large percentage of the economy. BlackRock owns securities in mutual funds and holds title for the benefit of the true owners of the securities; retail investors, pension funds, etc. BlackRock’s power is the right to vote proxies and it has the ESG thing it has cooked up. Vivek figured this out about 3-4 years ago and with JD Vance and Peter Thiel started a competitor called Strive.

He had dinner recently with Mike Pompeo and said he previously had a low opinion of him. During dinner Mike said he regretted not cleaning out the top tier of the CIA. They are not advancing US interests and do not believe in democratic institutions. They work for the military-industrial complex.

I told him that it was terrible that Biden denied him Secret Service protection. I also said he is a brave man. Big applause.

I asked him about a new report that Fauci and Collins personally made $350m in royalties on the Covid vaccines. If I understood him right, those millions went to the NIH and FDA but the doctor employees on the patents got $150k for life. Therefore the FDA has an incentive to approve drugs because its people get paid.

He would de-escalate with China.

The campaign had its own security. We were wanded at the door. Four security guys with RFK. I thanked one of them.

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

Oh my. I just heard the crispiest reason for the jab and it makes more sense than anything anybody has come up with so far.

link to Joe Rogan with Tim Dillon clip

Btw, You have to wear a tinfoil hat if you want to hear it. Fact you can’t hear it, if you’re not wearing it.

Dave Begley said...

Dennis Kucinich is RFK, Jr’s campaign manager. He was there. His wife is 41 years younger than him and she looks like a movie star.

Dennis is my hero.

Wa St Blogger said...

People should give strong consideration to method rather than end result when working toward political goals. It should be obvious to people that using injustice to fight injustice could never work.

It does not matter how glorious your goal, how pure your motives, and how righteous your cause, injustice in the pursuit of a good, devalues that good. It creates such animosity from the recipients of that injustice, that they will associate that good with the injustice and will never be brought over to your point of view. Your only option for perpetuating the good that you wish is to continue dealing out injustice to those too recalcitrant to accept your definition of good.

Secondly, you have created a perpetual cycle of injustice. Those to whom injustice has meted out, are likely to retaliate in an unjust manner. The left should understand this. As supposed champions of the down-trodden, with the motto, if you want peace, work for justice, justice should be the goal.

Third, by working to pervert justice in the course of achieving political goals, you effectively ascribe to the "might makes right" philosophy of political power. And when the tables turn, as they surely will, you too will become the recipient of a might makes right rebound.

Finally, in perverting the justice system to achieve political power, you destroy the very thing that guarantees your ability to fight for the rights of others. By fostering despotic means for political goals, you invite despotic people to to participate in the process. The only defense our country has against despots is a populace that is unwilling to tolerate despotism and believes it has the power to affect change. If they begin to believe that justice is no longer in affect and votes are no longer valid, governing by the will of the people ends.

Be cautious as you cheer on the crushing of you enemies through unjust means, for when despots gain power, they will not bother to thank the useful idiots who allowed them that power. Their only interest from that point on is to retain power, not serve those with nothing left to offer.

Too many here have too short a view. Do not sacrifice the gift our founders gave you for ephemeral victories.

John Public said...

The DOJ conducted a soft coup against the choice of "We the People," in Crossfire Hurricane. No excuses: they knew it.

The DOJ then suppressed speech deleterious to their candidate.

The U.S., and our experiment in government, will survive four more years of Trump.

It will not survive a government that decides whom we may elect to lead us.

Cappy said...

"No you can't, comrade!" - Merrick Garland, 2023.

Iman said...

Monday Monday
So good to me

Iman said...

Monday I got Friday on my mind

The Crack Emcee said...

Lem the misspeller

Tim Dillon is hilarious

Rusty said...

Crack.
Conservatives aren't a monolithic block.

Chuck said...

Dave Begley said...
Saw Bobby Kennedy in Iowa tonight. Very interesting. Very much a populist. He’s not a nut. Also not senile. Smart, charming and genuine. I really liked him. He will beat Biden or give him a real run for his money...


That's interesting, Dave. Let's make it more interesting, okay? Let's have a bet on whether RFKJr will win the Democratic nomination. I'll give you odds. Let's do this. It will be fun.

gilbar said...

Colonel Mustard asks...
Why do good people get up in the morning and go in to work at the Justice Department or the EPA or Pfizer or the University with never a hint about the crap being done there; nevermind a word of opposition.

it's SIMPLE.. Because the united states is a fascist dictatorship.

As Buckwheathikes said...
We are the Nazi's now.
98-year-old Kansas newspaper owner dies after police raid to stop story being published.
We are the baddies now. We are the Nazi's.

And nazis (or fascists, or totalitarianists, or progressives) LOVE stomping boots in faces
They do it BECAUSE they love it.

Kate said...

@Dave Begley -- thanks for the Iowa reports!

Birches said...

@Yancey

Sounds fun, but I'm not sure I can trust it's not a fed forum. Lol.

Birches said...

@Big Mike

I've known about endometriosis my entire life. Granted, my mom worked at an OBGYN for a couple of decades but it has always seemed like a very common diagnosis. I have family members who had it and they were both recommended to have hysterectomies to cure them. Seemed to have worked. Neither were infertile.

West TX Intermediate Crude said...

Many here and elsewhere despair about the state of the 2024 Pres race.
As a card carrying deplorable, I think things are great.
I'll be voting for whoever is on the GOP line, for sure.
Any of the possibilities will be a major improvement over any possible D candidate.
I'm voting Trump in the primary. I initially favored RDS, and still think he would be a good Pres. My reason for making PDJT first choice is to show the Deep State that I will not stand for their banana republic crap, using the legal system to eliminate political opposition. I don't give a FF if there is a technical violation of some obscure, never used law somewhere. The phrase "no reasonable prosecutor" keeps reverberating in my head.
If a majority of my fellow deplorables disagree and RDS gets the nod, (or the KamaSutra guy), it's still someone that I can strongly support over Biden, RFKjr, Harris, or Newsome.

What of the argument that the D's want Trump to be the nominee as he is the one easiest to beat?
That may be true. It may be untrue. From my perspective, it's unknown, and unknowable, so I'm not going to waste mental bandwidth on the issue at present.
A lot will change in the next 16 months- that's the only thing we can all count on.
Don't despair.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Iman wrote Monday I got Friday on my mind

Few people remember the Easybeats hit from the early seventies, seeing as they were an Australian one hit wonder here, but I loved it.

But everyone remembers the little brothers of the singer, Malcom and Angus, who went on to form AC/DC.

gilbar said...

i wonder if all those college educated single white girls STILL think he's Dreamy??
Records Reveal Fauci, Others Made Over $300 Million From the Covid Pandemic While Americans Suffered

i don't know.. Maybe,
they think he's MORE Dreamy, now they know he's made MILLIONS from biowarfare work for the communist chinese?

Gusty Winds said...

Blogger Big Mike said...
I see that the death toll on Maui has been pegged at 93 for the past dozen hours or so. That’s already too high; I hope it goes no higher.

Something is not right in Maui. First hand accounts are WAY different than what the media is reporting. Death toll could be 1000 plus. We may never know.

Biden's "no comment" response to the death toll is scary.

Mason G said...

"I hope there’s a serious examination of what went wrong and how to see to it that the inadequate warnings of which residents complained are never inadequate again."

Probably there'll be raises for everybody and an increase in staff size. It's the government- if what they're doing isn't working, the only solution they recognize is to do it harder and throw more money at the problem.

wendybar said...

She SHOULD have recused herself, but of course, she didn't, and her bias will put Trump in prison. Karma can't mow her down soon enough. She deserves our scorn. She is a disgusting pig. Sorry, NOT sorry...but this whole thing is pathetic, and shows what a Banana Republic looks like with swamp creatures like her, who suck at their jobs.

https://twitchy.com/samj/2023/08/14/us-judge-tanya-chutkan-on-january-6th-versus-blm-riots-of-2020-n2386275

Tina Trent said...

Well, Big Mike, not to go all Lena Dunham on you, but it took about five years and two exploratory surgeries before I got a diagnosis in 2001, 25 years after your wife. I was walking, heck, even running bent over by the time they operated and found several organs fused together. My husband says that when I woke up from anesthesia and they told me how bad my case had been, I said I just thought it was stress from writing my dissertation (I still think doing that was objectively worse than major surgery and years of undiagnosed pain).

So no, women's health care (and a good bit of essential men's health care) hasn't improved much since the 70's, and I blame most of the waste on politicizing medicine. The SubStack piece was a good read, but medical neglect isn't just something that happens to women. Mostly, it happens to anyone who is chronically ill with a disease that lacks an effective political/celebrity lobby. We spend billions for people to mutilate themselves or drug themselves or continue engaging in risky behavior, but research money for all sorts of deadly chronic diseases, or improved treatment for those diseases, or common sense approaches to curing what can be cured, say type 2 diabetes, are dead in the water. And then we spend billions more on "education/prevention" rackets, and now, frankly, "mutilation encouragement" rackets.

I'm terrified of everyone in charge of everything these days. We have trained generations of idiots to lead us idiotically, in the most ecumenical sense. I hope your wife finally found good medical care.

Tina Trent said...
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Original Mike said...

"Dave KEEPS saying about how Vivek is the best talker.. I'm starting to think he might be right."

Dave IS right. I wish Vivek had a chance.

Robert Cook said...

"I rant, along with many of you, against violence done to police officers and unfair accusations of bad police behavior."

What about fair (i.e, accurate) accusations of bad police behavior, and unwarranted and/or excessive violence (including fatal violence) done by police officers? Do you rant against that?

wendybar said...


Cernovich
@Cernovich
·
Follow
Fulton County DA indicted Trump under Georgia’s RICO law. Reuters obtained the documents.

The Grand Jury is still meeting.

The law isn’t being followed. This is state sponsored lynching.

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1691142191593517056?

BUMBLE BEE said...

Damn!
https://www.breitbart.com/local/2023/08/14/photos-montana-woman-survives-vicious-relentless-otter-attack/

Original Mike said...

Blogger Rusty said...
"Crack.
Conservatives aren't a monolithic block."


Ah, give him a break. We all look alike to him.

Iman said...

Mike (MJB) Wolf… it is a great song… every now and again while on my morning walks, I will listen to mid-60s/late 60s rock and that one is one of my faves. And then I’ll go all 70s and listen to my faves from that decade… Little Feat, Funkadelic, Steely Dan, Bowie, the Band.

But lately it’s been a steady diet of the Replacements, the Clash, Dr. Feelgood… all good stuff to wake me up as I walk, lol.

Big Mike said...

@Tina Trent, I apologize for not getting the Lena Dunham reference. I cannot help but get very angry about doctors who (1) cannot figure out what is truly wrong with a woman who presents with strange symptoms (nothing wrong with that -- not everyone can know everything), but then (2) instead of referring the patient to a different doctor prefer to brush her off as "hysterical." Hanging is too good.

gilbar said...

BUMBLE BEE said...
Damn!
https://www.breitbart.com/local/2023/08/14/photos-montana-woman-survives-vicious-relentless-otter-attack/

you HAVE to ask yourselves.. do You WANT to live in a world, with gangs of vicious blood thirsty otters?
i do NOT

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

I’m thankful for all that good old rock and roll. Huge variety compared to the overproduced sameness infecting current stuff that gets on the radio. That heartfelt WV folk song is inspiring and I’m glad that guy is getting some recognition.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

His name is Oliver Anthony. When protest songs and RFK Jr. are both labeled right wing by the media it’s a sign we’re living in very strange times.

NKP said...

If Cook is referring to police actions re. Michael Brown and George Floyd, those individuals were the most significant players in their own demise. I wonder if Cook and others of like mind can quickly name two or three of the many cops who were deliberately killed (murdered) in the past few years.

The point of my original post was that cops, like people in missile silos and SSBNs tend to do what they're trained to do and what people up the chain of command expect them to do. It's always been that way.

The problem is: Our leadership is becoming unbearbly corrupt and willing to deploy and authorize the use of lethal force when none is called for. I suspect quite a few senior beaureaucrats in government rather fancy themselves as "bad-ass".

Wa St Blogger said...

@Robert Cook

What about fair (i.e, accurate) accusations of bad police behavior, and unwarranted and/or excessive violence (including fatal violence) done by police officers? Do you rant against that?

My past and current careers put my law enforcement adjacent. I know a lot of people all over the country in that vocation, so I am often more sympathetic toward them. However, I am never on their side when they violate the rights of a citizen and get immunity, especially when that violation results in severe injury or death. So I agree that we should be as intolerant of police abuses as we are of abuses to police.

It's a tremendously hard job to be in law enforcement. Mistakes will happen, people over-react. Remember, that for many of them several times a day they may encounter a situation that can be potentially life threatening to them. In many cases, they are damned if they do and damned if they don't, and the lack of support can often callous them toward overly strong responses. What I don't like is how we are quick to blame them and the assumption that they are all bad. I know too many of them to accept that position. Additionally, many of them are very hard on situations they know when officers acted in excess. I know of many who were initially outraged at Derik Chauvin. The officers know that professional conduct is the key to them retaining the moral authority to do their jobs Many are outraged, too, when bad apples get off lightly. Things are not black and white, but when we draw lines of either for cops or against cops we do everyone a disservice. I think the left pours fuel to make a bigger fire for political gain.

Jim at said...

But everyone remembers the little brothers of the singer, Malcom and Angus, who went on to form AC/DC.

Close.

He played guitar.

Jaq said...

So they have partly indicted Trump for proposing Zuckerbucks in Georgia. Asking about the possibility of assisting financially the count, not giving millions to heavily blue districts in a state while ignoring red districts, Facebook employees having read-write access to official voter rolls, the way Zuckerberg did it in Wisconsin to help Biden win a close state, but just floating the idea, is an "overt act in furtherance of a conspiracy."

Tina Trent said...

@Big Mike: just a joke that Lena Dunham has talked -- a lot -- about her struggle with endometriosis.

I agree with you that it's infuriating when women receive so little medical consideration for some obviously physical complaints. Unfortunately, I have watched medicine in general move more towards that as a norm for both women and men, instead of improving women's health.

I had a great clinician for 25 years -- lost him to Obamacare. He was trained at the best medical school in Mexico. His annual physicals take two hours.

I have found decent doctors since, but even they are bound by rules that prevent them from spending more than five minutes in the room. The rehab hospitals and dialysis clinics I took relatives and an employer to were places I wouldn't leave my worst enemy. Well, maybe just the top ten.

A year and a half ago, I spent six months with my chronically ill brother in hospital as he died. Every day watching him suffer was hell, and we had nobody else. Due to COVID rules, I even had to sneak in or hide a few times to be with him overnight (they eventually ignored me, except for the multitudes of administrators trying to send him to hospice before he was ready to give up). I'd spend hours submissively begging to speak to a doctor or get him painkillers, but more often than not, all I'd get was another "quality of life" administrator trying to take what little of his life was left -- life he still wanted.

When euthanasia comes here, be ready to fight. It was rough.

During that time, Althouse blog and all the commenters here were often my only connection to the world. I could never properly thank you.

Jaq said...

Funny how invested LLR Chuck is to see that Joseph Robinette Biden, specifically that guy, remains president. Not even some other Democrat, definitely no Republican, probably not even Pence meets his purity standard, as in purely corrupt, purely invested in the quest to state WW3.

Rusty said...

Tim.
It's because, whether they are involved directly or not, they are the beneficiarys of the graft. You'll find that most of our usual suspects are pulic sector workers or work with companies directly involved with the public sector. IOWs they don't have to efficient or responsible. They just have to reliably promote the narrative and vote Democrat. It's not that they aren't capable of rational thought. It's that the system that provides the graft must be maintained at all costs. Hence the suspension of integrity, honesy, and truth. To them corruption is the normal way to do business. They therefore think we are all corrupt. It is why they could not fathom the TEA party. The honstly believed there was an organizing driving organization behind it. They believed that because there is an organized driving organization behind everything they do.

Jaq said...

So Kiev banished opposition political parties, Biden is making opposition politics illegal, and now German is about to ban AfD to "protect democracy."

Kiev invited Hillary and Biden into the vast cesspool of corruption there, and those guys, in Reagan's words, "thought it was a hot tub," and now Kiev is running western politics.

We know that Kiev interfered with the 2016 election, here is the proof on the front page of the New York Times, a phony story planted by Kiev that appeared in the New York Times in August of 2016.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/15/us/politics/what-is-the-black-ledger.html

After Hillary lost, Kiev, it seems, pushed the standard tactic of blaming their arch enemy, Russia for the crimes of which Kiev was guilty, they did this to cut off that area of inquiry before it even had time to start, and now it is hard for people to even understand that it was Hillary and Kiev all along who were guilty of that. This is true even though I can show you a front page story "leaked" by Kiev, that got Trump's campaign manager fired in August leading up to the election. The retort is that Manafort was found guilty of crimes and sits in prison, but Hunter is guilty of those identical "crimes" and the Special Counsel, instead of seeking to imprison him, tried to immunize him from prosecution in exchange for a guilty plea on some minor tax violations, for which a small fine was a satisfactory punishment. Were there no minor tax violations that could have been found to let Manafort off the hook? It's not hypocrisy, it's hierarchy.

All of these ridiculous charges are framed as being needed to "protect democracy" precisely because they are intended to subvert democracy, and framing them in this way before the conversation even starts makes it hard for normies to understand that the exact opposite is true.

Then they have the tactic of flooding comment threads with their operatives, the same way they are doing with "NAFO" on the war, operatives whose main purpose is not the search for truth, but to upend and disrupt any conversation that might lead to the truth. This is why I don't reply to them very often.

Chuck said...

tim in vermont said...
Funny how invested LLR Chuck is to see that Joseph Robinette Biden, specifically that guy, remains president. Not even some other Democrat, definitely no Republican, probably not even Pence meets his purity standard, as in purely corrupt, purely invested in the quest to state WW3.


I'll vote for any Republican who condemns Trump and the Big Lie.

And I'll vote against any Republican who fails to do that.

wendybar said...

So you are voting for Biden then, Chuck. Got it. It's not like we didn't already know that.

MadTownGuy said...

The police chief of Maui is the guy who was chief in Las Vegas in 2017.
https://twitter.com/TaraBull808/status/1691164258716016641?t=O7HdJbjZxBQRhuNZWmuKDA&s=19

Chuck said...

wendybar said...
So you are voting for Biden then, Chuck. Got it. It's not like we didn't already know that.


Yes. You should already know that. I've said every time that I have been asked; after reluctantly voting for Trump in 2016, I voted emphatically for Biden in 2020.

And most remarkably, for the first time in my life, I voted against all of the statewide Michigan Republicans in 2022. The conspiracist QAnon kook Kristina Karama who ran for Secretary of State and lost. The now-indicted Matt DePerno who ran for Attorney General(!) and lost. And Tudor Dixon for Governor. All Trump-endorsed pure Trump products. Third-tier loser candidates who had no experience or standing in the MIGOP before 2016. The TrumpWing foisted these losers on Michigan Republicans. And after about 35 years of remarkable success in running state government (one 3-term and one 2-term governor, majorities in both legislative houses, Supreme Court majorities), in 2018, '20 and '22 and the Trumpist Michigan Republicans lost everything.