There is no "middle ground" on abortion. Either you have the kind of moral code that says it's immoral to kill the most innocent of life, or your moral code says it's OK. The people who believe it's OK may quibble with each about what circumstances are more OK than others, but people who believe it's wrong have no "middle ground" to compromise to. The abortion debate will never be settled so, yes, it's time to stop making it the primary focus in elections. Let's focus on issues we can find an acceptable solution to. And I'm not a man.
Mansplaining? How about logicsplaining? To the left, a woman is a woman unless she decides she is not. Parents at school board meeting are terrorists. BLM burning down cities are peaceful protests. Guns kill people, but cars, knives, crowbars do not. It is not a baby if it killed at 9 months gestation, it is a baby if it safely delivered at 7 months. Logic escapes the left but only all the time.
Thread; this links you to the great Aaron Rupar's Twitter video-clipping of the Gonzalez Sunday interview on CNN. It's even more fantastic, than simply reading headlines about it, to see Gonzalez squirm his way through this interview. You can almost see him making the calculations about what to say and how to get out of the interview without conceding the obvious.
Rep. Tony Gonzalez (R-TX23) is an interesting case. He's not stupid. Certainly not like Marjorie Taylor Greene, or Lauren Boebert or Andy Biggs or Scott Perry are stupid. And he has a lot of moderate impulses. But that just makes life all the more difficult for him within the Kevin McCarthy-led Republican majority in the House.
Gonzalez likes doing tv, and likes to do interviews where he can be given space to say some noncontroversial problem-solvy kinds of things. His district is borderland south Texas. That area is actually not blood-red. It's rural, stretching from outside of San Antonio to just outside of El Paso, and tilts R+5. But it's also 68% Hispanic.
However every time the guy goes on any non-Fox tv channel now, he just has to answer questions about all of the crazy shit his party is doing in the House these days.
I agree with the Rep. As an example, I've noted Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer and her Tweets. When she posts, it's almost always about abortion. How she will never allow anything less than blah, blah, blah. And Michigan, which has hemmoraghed people for decades now, has awful infrastructure, bad roads, undrinkable water in areas, horrible schools in areas, corrupt big city management, a dying manufacturing base, and a massive brain drain as grads move out- has a few issues that affect all of it's citizens, everyday.
But Whitmer knows what got her reelected. She knows that riling up the young women, young men, and suburban women, and keeping them riled up, is her way of keeping power. To hell with the actual day to day problems of all Michiganders.
Add into it now- the claim that Republicans don't like kids, hence the gun laws. (this from the party of abortion, but I digress). And I see this from many key Democrats nationally. They are a one, at times, two issue party. And they are playing it up for all they can get out of it.
And when you look around at our country and see it failing in almost every category, you wonder if abortion arguments are how we should be spending our focus and time. I think Gonzalez is absolutely on target. There's no easy way to say it, but he's right.
Ah, wouldn’t they be relieved if people stopped mentioning how women are being denied a right they had for almost 50 years. Take away a right and expect people won’t complain? Wishful thinking. What foolish men run the Republican Party.
Ellie said... There is no "middle ground" on abortion. Either you have the kind of moral code that says it's immoral to kill the most innocent of life, or your moral code says it's OK. The people who believe it's OK may quibble with each about what circumstances are more OK than others, but people who believe it's wrong have no "middle ground" to compromise to. The abortion debate will never be settled so, yes, it's time to stop making it the primary focus in elections. Let's focus on issues we can find an acceptable solution to. And I'm not a man.
"There is no middle ground on abortion." Huh. Well okay, then let's vote on a single solution. Like, uh, the last couple of elections.
I respect your own personal moral code and I wish you all the best with it.
But the nice folks who got Roe v. Wade overruled effectively left it up to state legislatures. (An outcome I supported, by the way.) And so now, our elected leaders in each of our sovereign states can vote on appropriate legislation.
I honestly fail to understand your ultimate point. Not make it the primary focus in elections? What would you like to be the primary focus in elections? Health care reform? Fiscal restraint? Entitlement reform? Defense policy?
Or how's about transgender bathrooms? Or maybe Critical Race Theory? Or the "woke" epidemic?
My problem with many of my fellow Republicans in today's conversation isn't just about a few issues or a single personality. It is with how some of you actually think.
The liberal media is often stunned when subjected to the reality not every state was down with infanticide. They are "arguing past the sale" at this point and must be ginning up donations by fuming at this reality. Zzzzzzzz
Have you seen any real effort for democrats in the senate to codify any of their precious right to abortions?
Lets have 50 different laboratories of democracy allow each state to decide this for themselves.
The abortion issue is already in the process of being resolved by state legislatures, and by some research into the legal and medical problems of the current means of chemical abortion.
The first at least will be very quick; the second can be done quite quickly too if the medical establishment restores the safeguards (such oversight by medical personnel) that were removed in spite of the original requirements of the drugs.
I think it's past time for members of both parties to turn their attention to hard-to-solve but important problems, such as illegal immigration, rampaging crime and drug addiction, and economically impossible plans "green energy."
But I don't see that happening, because most of our politicians, especially those on the left, are unable to do the necessary work.
Petty little Ayatollahs Come around to judge and stone ya All's we're trying to do is make a fortune Yeah, we ain't got no government loans And no one sends a check from home But get this: we're just doin' what we wanna
So let's get off this And get on with it If you wanna change the world Shut your mouth and start to spin it Get off this Get on with it If you wanna change the world Shut your mouth and start this minute
If your grandma is getting to be a pain to deal with, then by all means, kill her. If your 16-year-old daughter mouths off, boom. Anyone who has to depend on you is fair game, because they're affecting your enjoyment of life. They don't own you!
"If your grandma is getting to be a pain to deal with, then by all means, kill her. If your 16-year-old daughter mouths off, boom. Anyone who has to depend on you is fair game, because they're affecting your enjoyment of life. They don't own you!
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The Democratic hammer can’t handle any other nails.
Hahahaha! Oh, Tony.
Of course he's from TX, where the GOP thinks it's possible to know a woman is pregnant before 6 wks.
Wow, The Daily Beast, Huff Post, MSN and Mediate don't like GOP policy positions? That's never happened before!
There is no "middle ground" on abortion. Either you have the kind of moral code that says it's immoral to kill the most innocent of life, or your moral code says it's OK. The people who believe it's OK may quibble with each about what circumstances are more OK than others, but people who believe it's wrong have no "middle ground" to compromise to. The abortion debate will never be settled so, yes, it's time to stop making it the primary focus in elections. Let's focus on issues we can find an acceptable solution to. And I'm not a man.
Not going to happen.
In rural Nebraska, I saw the following car window sticker.
Roe
Roe
Roe
Your vote.
What he should be talking about is the nationwide scope of preliminary injunctions issued by a single judge.
Wasn't a problem for the left when Trump was president?
Mansplaining in the First Degree... Crucify Him!
Too soon?
Mansplaining? How about logicsplaining? To the left, a woman is a woman unless she decides she is not. Parents at school board meeting are terrorists. BLM burning down cities are peaceful protests. Guns kill people, but cars, knives, crowbars do not. It is not a baby if it killed at 9 months gestation, it is a baby if it safely delivered at 7 months. Logic escapes the left but only all the time.
Thread; this links you to the great Aaron Rupar's Twitter video-clipping of the Gonzalez Sunday interview on CNN. It's even more fantastic, than simply reading headlines about it, to see Gonzalez squirm his way through this interview. You can almost see him making the calculations about what to say and how to get out of the interview without conceding the obvious.
Rep. Tony Gonzalez (R-TX23) is an interesting case. He's not stupid. Certainly not like Marjorie Taylor Greene, or Lauren Boebert or Andy Biggs or Scott Perry are stupid. And he has a lot of moderate impulses. But that just makes life all the more difficult for him within the Kevin McCarthy-led Republican majority in the House.
Gonzalez likes doing tv, and likes to do interviews where he can be given space to say some noncontroversial problem-solvy kinds of things. His district is borderland south Texas. That area is actually not blood-red. It's rural, stretching from outside of San Antonio to just outside of El Paso, and tilts R+5. But it's also 68% Hispanic.
However every time the guy goes on any non-Fox tv channel now, he just has to answer questions about all of the crazy shit his party is doing in the House these days.
I agree with the Rep. As an example, I've noted Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer and her Tweets. When she posts, it's almost always about abortion. How she will never allow anything less than blah, blah, blah. And Michigan, which has hemmoraghed people for decades now, has awful infrastructure, bad roads, undrinkable water in areas, horrible schools in areas, corrupt big city management, a dying manufacturing base, and a massive brain drain as grads move out- has a few issues that affect all of it's citizens, everyday.
But Whitmer knows what got her reelected. She knows that riling up the young women, young men, and suburban women, and keeping them riled up, is her way of keeping power. To hell with the actual day to day problems of all Michiganders.
Add into it now- the claim that Republicans don't like kids, hence the gun laws. (this from the party of abortion, but I digress). And I see this from many key Democrats nationally. They are a one, at times, two issue party. And they are playing it up for all they can get out of it.
And when you look around at our country and see it failing in almost every category, you wonder if abortion arguments are how we should be spending our focus and time. I think Gonzalez is absolutely on target. There's no easy way to say it, but he's right.
Roe... Roe...
Roe, Roe, Roe your baby, down the river Styx.
Ah, wouldn’t they be relieved if people stopped mentioning how women are being denied a right they had for almost 50 years. Take away a right and expect people won’t complain? Wishful thinking. What foolish men run the Republican Party.
Ellie said...
There is no "middle ground" on abortion. Either you have the kind of moral code that says it's immoral to kill the most innocent of life, or your moral code says it's OK. The people who believe it's OK may quibble with each about what circumstances are more OK than others, but people who believe it's wrong have no "middle ground" to compromise to. The abortion debate will never be settled so, yes, it's time to stop making it the primary focus in elections. Let's focus on issues we can find an acceptable solution to. And I'm not a man.
"There is no middle ground on abortion." Huh. Well okay, then let's vote on a single solution. Like, uh, the last couple of elections.
I respect your own personal moral code and I wish you all the best with it.
But the nice folks who got Roe v. Wade overruled effectively left it up to state legislatures. (An outcome I supported, by the way.) And so now, our elected leaders in each of our sovereign states can vote on appropriate legislation.
I honestly fail to understand your ultimate point. Not make it the primary focus in elections? What would you like to be the primary focus in elections? Health care reform? Fiscal restraint? Entitlement reform? Defense policy?
Or how's about transgender bathrooms? Or maybe Critical Race Theory? Or the "woke" epidemic?
My problem with many of my fellow Republicans in today's conversation isn't just about a few issues or a single personality. It is with how some of you actually think.
Keeping the conversation going....
All the Sunday shows - except Fox News - had story after story about abortion and Trump.
Fox News talked of impending war with China and they provided info and data that supported that contention.
I note the increased, somewhat frenzied activity at the Concord Naval Weapons Station.
"The people who believe it's OK may quibble with each about what circumstances are more OK than others"
Not me. Abort away to your heart's content. It's called Liberty.
As long as abortion is a useful hammer to bash the Republicans with, the Democrats will never "Get Off" the issue. There will never be a compromise.
Other issues shall go undiscussed and unaddressed as long as both sides continue to bludgeon each other over it.
the left are obsessed with allowing women to rid themselves of their babies.
all the way up until birth.
Ladies and gentlemen
https://youtu.be/6f4BwQFF-Os
The liberal media is often stunned when subjected to the reality not every state was down with infanticide. They are "arguing past the sale" at this point and must be ginning up donations by fuming at this reality. Zzzzzzzz
Have you seen any real effort for democrats in the senate to codify any of their precious right to abortions?
Lets have 50 different laboratories of democracy allow each state to decide this for themselves.
The abortion issue is already in the process of being resolved by state legislatures, and by some research into the legal and medical problems of the current means of chemical abortion.
The first at least will be very quick; the second can be done quite quickly too if the medical establishment restores the safeguards (such oversight by medical personnel) that were removed in spite of the original requirements of the drugs.
I think it's past time for members of both parties to turn their attention to hard-to-solve but important problems, such as illegal immigration, rampaging crime and drug addiction, and economically impossible plans "green energy."
But I don't see that happening, because most of our politicians, especially those on the left, are unable to do the necessary work.
Petty little Ayatollahs
Come around to judge and stone ya
All's we're trying to do is make a fortune
Yeah, we ain't got no government loans
And no one sends a check from home
But get this: we're just doin' what we wanna
So let's get off this
And get on with it
If you wanna change the world
Shut your mouth and start to spin it
Get off this
Get on with it
If you wanna change the world
Shut your mouth and start this minute
If your grandma is getting to be a pain to deal with, then by all means, kill her. If your 16-year-old daughter mouths off, boom. Anyone who has to depend on you is fair game, because they're affecting your enjoyment of life. They don't own you!
That's "Liberty", right? Choice!
The Republicans should just let the Democrats abort themselves out of power.
"If your grandma is getting to be a pain to deal with, then by all means, kill her. If your 16-year-old daughter mouths off, boom. Anyone who has to depend on you is fair game, because they're affecting your enjoyment of life. They don't own you!
That's "Liberty", right? Choice!"
This is what a false choice actually looks like.
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