April 24, 2023

"Biden once called 'transgender equality' the 'civil-rights issue of our time'... He’s also called Florida’s anti-trans policies 'close to sinful'..."

"... and expressed broad support for future national legislation that enshrines trans rights. But trans people need more from him and the party he represents.... Courageous red-state Democrats could help forge a new consensus for their party. In doing so, they can help the party meet national voters where they seem to be.... Sixty-four percent of American adults favor laws that protect trans people from some discrimination in housing, work, and in public spaces.... [t]hough 60 percent also believe a person’s gender is determined by sex at birth.... Democrats can defend trans rights as a matter of principle, but also to win votes. They need not fear wokeness. They can tell voters the truth: The real threat to America comes not from trans people but from the right. The right meddles in private medical decisions. The right traffics in hate. And the right will crush its opponents, if it can.... Hate can rally conservatives, but those who peddle it don’t speak for most people...."

85 comments:

tim maguire said...

trans people need more from him and the party he represents

Of course they do. Leftism has no limiting principle. They will always need more. It will never be enough.

Leland said...

Did Sarah Jones define the wokeness that should not be feared, because I thought we were playing the game it had no definition but racism. Perhaps Sarah thinks Democrats should not fear being racist.

Jake said...

Yes. The American left exclusively traffics in the language of love.

gilbar said...

Absolutely!!
the democrat party, needs to make it CLEAR, that they stand for Trans Rights, ABOVE EVERYTHING!
trans rights are The Most Important Thing (to trans folk); THEY are the key, to the new democrat party

Creola Soul said...

By every survey, every poll, less than 0.5% of the population identify as transgender. The issue is not acceptance, it’s overreach. First the transgender community wanted acceptance and equality, which they largely have. The overreach is they now want you to be their advocate, particularly as they move into new areas such as women’s sports. As someone said they other day “If you’re a man, and want to think you’re a woman, that’s okay with me. But you’re thinking that doesn’t mean I will think you’re a woman. In fact, I don’t.”

Dagwood said...

What a load of steaming horse-pucky.

Gusty Winds said...

The right traffics in hate

If "hate" means protecting children from mutilation, sterilization, and child sexualization promoted by the liberal education establishment...well...then...so be it.

What a bunch of bullshit. America is losing it's mind, and about to lose a whole lot more.

RNB said...

Catering to the mentally ill as a winning electoral strategy.

GatorNavy said...

Gender reassignment surgery without intensive psychiatric therapy is the maiming of a healthy human body which is punishable by law. Second, the amount of grooming by transsexuals and their enablers is felonious. Underage children being groomed in elementary school is child abuse. Parents who enable such behaviors are also child abusers. These are the facts, no amount of op-eds, misleading articles and outright lies by our government will change any of these facts.

Clyde said...

Wow, talk about projection! Ask Riley Gaines about who is hateful and intolerant!

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

Will Democrats fight for women in sports?
NO NO NO

Will democrats fight for children?
NO NO NO

Your child will be exposed to leftist porn at a young age - because the corrupt horrid Teacher's union is democrat party.

Democrats are allowing "trans" actual men - in women's prisons and those women are being raped. You know - with that female penis.

Enigma said...

Sinful? What does the Pope tell Catholic Joe about sin? What about abortion? Hmmm.....?

This is a case of very old lefties using an obsolete and irrelevant civil rights playbook for far too long. In every global culture across history...men and women make babies and produce a functional next generation. There are always Bohemian, gay, and sexually-divergent minorities but they are destined to be on the permanent fringe, or when in the majority, signal the rapid implosion of a culture. Joe Biden's historical Catholic Popes referred to this as "Sodom and Gomorrah."

But I guess cultural implosion is the goal of the death-cult left, as some Greens explicitly seek to reduce the human population by billions to save the planet. Free abortions for all! Free genital snips for all!

The sarcastic right and political center should adopt a pro-abortion, pro-sex-change stance immediately. This would force a reckoning on the left: CONSERVATIVES ARE TRYING TO WIPE OUT BLACK AND BROWN AND TRANSGENDERED PEOPLE! Then, would the knee-jerk left focus on babies and a sustainable future once again?

Kate said...

"The right meddles ... The right traffics ... the right will crush ..."

But the writer who chose those verbs to dehumanize the other side's concerns isn't threatening at all.

rrsafety said...

Men showering with girls is not a civil right. Men winning all girl sport competitions is not a civil right. A 13 year old boy being drugged to stunt hi development is not a civil right.

Inga said...

“They need not fear wokeness. They can tell voters the truth: The real threat to America comes not from trans people but from the right. The right meddles in private medical decisions. The right traffics in hate. And the right will crush its opponents, if it can.”

Between trying to take away all rights of a woman’s autonomy over her body and this over the top loony transphobia, the right is setting itself up for a massive loss in 2024. The majority of Americans don’t embrace such authoritarian ideas that the right is espousing. It’s being rejected and that will become exceedingly evident in the coming election cycles. We, democratic America, won’t allow the right to get away with crushing anyone except for themselves. As the months go by and the craziness on the right continues and increases in intensity, it just proves to the rest of America how we can’t become complacent, we will not be crushed, no matter how hard the right tries, they will fail.

Every Democrat, independent and moderate person I know is disgusted by the right, and the last several elections have reflected this growing disgust. If the right continues their march to authoritarianism, the pushback from the rest of America will continue and grow in intensity. Those on the right that don’t buy into the extremism of today’s Maga extremist Republicans need to be even stronger in their resolve to separate themselves publicly from these lunatics.

Michael said...

Pollsters can word their questions to get whatever result they want, and activists can use those results to support positions that are far above and beyond what the actual survey shows. It is one thing to support "laws that protect trans people from some discrimination in housing, work, and in public spaces," as most people do. It is another thing entirely to support trans men in women's sports, women's prisons, and women's restrooms (at least for pre-operative males), or to advocate for "gender-confirming" (sex-change*) operations for small children, or to berate someone for "discriminating" in intimate relationships.

None of the latter positions constitutes "hate," and to characterize them as such serves no purpose other than to aid someone's climb to the top of the Victimization Pyramid.

* Confucius is said to have said: the beginning of wisdom is to call things by their proper names.

Paul said...

"Biden once called 'transgender equality' the 'civil-rights issue of our time'... He’s also called Florida’s anti-trans policies 'close to sinful'..."

So says the Catholic Abortionist.. Biden.

What a joke.

Question... if you are senile and don't know what you are saying... can you able to repent your sins?

Dave Begley said...

"They need not fear wokeness. They can tell voters the truth: The real threat to America comes not from trans people but from the right. The right meddles in private medical decisions. The right traffics in hate. And the right will crush its opponents, if it can.... "

Not working so good in Nebraska. The campaign is "Don't legislate hate." The Jacobins are filibustering every single bill; even bills the Dem put forth and favor. They've burned all bridges.

Dave Begley said...

We want to totally defeat the woke Dems. They need to be defeated so badly that they know that they've been beaten. We want surrender on the battleship USS Missouri.

n.n said...

Homosexuals? Bisexuals? Trans/socials? Misogynists?

Yes. The American left exclusively traffics in the language of love.

The singular/minority/monopolistic pursuit of capital and control is a compelling cause. All's fair in lust and abortion.

narciso said...

they want your children, like the city fathers of sodom demanded,

rhhardin said...

It's still just men calling themselves women and vice versa. The old categories work just fine. No rights are involved.

Big Mike said...

The right traffics in hate.

Not true at all. The right traffics in “will you bitches and sons of bitches ever learn to leave us Normal people the fuck alone?”

On the other hand the left is not afraid to use violence (Antifa, BLM) and coercion via lawfare (Colorado vs Christian bakers) to get their way, which is no doubt why they are so eager to embrace the type of people who threatened the safety of Riley Gaines and murdered six people, including three little girls, in Nashville. (BTW, what’s in Audrey Hale’s manifesto that it still hadn’t been released?)

A couple days ago commentator John Henry noted that female transitions to male outnumber the other direction by at least 70-30, if not more. Could the violence of trans activists be due to some number of biological females overdosing on testosterone?

I do know that the two girls in nearby (to me) Loudoun County had a right not to be raped in a girls’ rest room in their high schools just because a biological male was allowed by school board policy to put on a skirt and enter a girls’ rest room. I know that young women should not have to be confronted by a naked biological male ogling them while they change out of their swim suits. Seven women are suing Kappa Kappa Gamma sorority after their chapter pledged a self-described trans woman who is not merely a biological male, but who openly attempts to see them in various states of undress, invlufing back from the shower wrapped in a towel. I think women living in a sorority should be able to take a shower without being ogled. Do you, Prof. Althouse? And I believe that Riley Gaines should be able to state her case without fearing injury or death.

Ball’s in your court, Professor.

HoodlumDoodlum said...

*Multiple mass shootings are carried out by deranged trans people*

"The real threat is from the Right!"

Tiresome.

HoodlumDoodlum said...

Pro-trans mobs shout down speakers at several universities, attack Riley Gaines, and assault people at recent protests, but Nice People like Prof. Althouse firmly believe it's the Right who're the danger, the Right who're mean, and the Right that needs to be suppressed.

As long as the person shouting in your face and working to influence your children without your consent is wearing a rainbow-flagged shirt that says "Love is Love" the Nice People will only object if you push back.

cassandra lite said...

Are trans people denied service at lunch counters? Are they subject to poll taxes? Are they prevented from playing Major League Baseball?

So far as I can tell, the only intersecting point with the real civil-rights movement is some people marching with "I am a man" signs around their necks.

Kevin said...

Imagine if Chinese concentration camps were the civil rights issue of our time.

Joe's the President, so you'll just have to imagine.

Dude1394 said...

That sounds like a call for a violent purge of republicans.

Michael said...

They always get it wrong. Nobody gives a flying fuck about trannies. Just leave us alonr. Please. The truth is they need the attention because nobody gives a shit.

Michael said...

Polling shows suburban white women concerned about all the trans bashing. Biden hitching to the trend. Quit hurting the trans people, please. So mean.

Captain BillieBob said...

Dave said:
"We want to totally defeat the woke Dems. They need to be defeated so badly that they know that they've been beaten. We want surrender on the battleship USS Missouri."

No.
They need to be defeated and then ground into the earth so they can never rise again. Leftists never retreat and never surrender. Something the right hasn't grasped yet.

Breezy said...

What is it about not wanting to mutilate children that is so hard to understand? This is a ridiculous article which exhibits zero understanding of the right’s motivations re trans-related policies and behaviors. It’s a trans-strawman.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

The collective left are OK when a trans person murders children.

Mason G said...

"The right traffics in hate. And the right will crush its opponents, if it can.... Hate can rally conservatives..."

You might try looking in the mirror, cupcake.

Sebastian said...

What exactly are "trans rights"?

Is it the right of an underage child to demand and receive medical mutilation? Is it the right of the state to suppress parental protection of their minor children against medical assault? Is it the right of people suffering from body dysphoria to demand surgery at others' expense? Is it the right of trans people and trans advocates to spread propaganda in elementary schools?

Dagwood said...

Inga: "Every Democrat, independent and moderate person I know is disgusted by the right, and the last several elections have reflected this growing disgust."

Every Democrat Inga knows, including those who falsely claim to be either independent or moderate, lives in the same blue kool-aid drinking cocoon as Inga.

Bruce Hayden said...

“Absolutely!!
“the democrat party, needs to make it CLEAR, that they stand for Trans Rights, ABOVE EVERYTHING!
“trans rights are The Most Important Thing (to trans folk); THEY are the key, to the new democrat party”

They’ve got Inga’s vote. But I suspect that is about it. I suspect that someone is going to run a campaign ad showing Lia, the male swimmer on a podium, dwarfing the women he stands between, Mulveney in his dress advertising for Bud Light, the former Energy official who stole the suitcases with women’s clothes, and then wore them, the formerly male Admiral in a dress, etc. heck, don’t even need the first two - the FJB Administration is bad enough without going outside, to find egregious examples just in the Administration. Maybe a tranny story hour at a library. Etc. Throwing all of these images together may be hurtful to the Ingas in this country, but not to many more.

BUMBLE BEE said...

Just saw this question raised.
What sort of malpractice insurance covers Transition Surgery and Puberty blockers for use on minors?

n.n said...

The collective left are OK when a trans person murders children.

3 adults, 3 children, and a woman, forgotten. Democrats are Pro-Gun, anti-baby, and misogynistic.

n.n said...

Imagine if Chinese concentration camps were the civil rights issue of our time.

Joe's the President, so you'll just have to imagine.


Labor (e.g. slavery) and environmental (e.g. Green) arbitrage are progressive, and babies... fetal-babies by Choice. #MaoTooFirst

gahrie said...

The real threat to America comes not from trans people but from the right. The right meddles in private medical decisions. The right traffics in hate. And the right will crush its opponents, if it can.... Hate can rally conservatives, but those who peddle it don’t speak for most people...."

Then please explain why all of the violence associated with the issue is coming from the pro-trans crowd and directed at the anti-trans crowd.

Where is the Christian school shooter's manifesto? Why hasn't it been released?

Jupiter said...

"Hate can rally conservatives, but those who peddle it don’t speak for most people...."

Nope. Like Sarah Jones, they mostly speak for those tranny perverts.

gahrie said...

Pro-trans mobs shout down speakers at several universities, attack Riley Gaines, and assault people at recent protests, but Nice People like Prof. Althouse firmly believe it's the Right who're the danger, the Right who're mean, and the Right that needs to be suppressed.

My first memory of the trans movement happened way back in 2015 when a man pretending to be a woman committed assault and battery against Ben Shapiro on television.

gahrie said...

Between trying to take away all rights of a woman’s autonomy over her body

Women give up their autonomy just as men do as part of the social contract that allows civilization to exist.

Yancey Ward said...

When we as a society agree to treat children with sexual hormone therapy and body altering surgery, we as a society no longer deserve to survive- we will have become evil incarnate.

Michael K said...

Where is the Manifesto of the crazy woman pretending to be male, Democrats ?

Tina Trent said...

Consider the source.

Static Ping said...

Well, they went to great effort to make a transgender mass murderer into a sympathetic figure, pretend that violent transgender riots are peaceful protests against meanies, and they are all in on child mutilation. Not sure what else they would want.

Gusty Winds said...

[t]hough 60 percent also believe a person’s gender is determined by sex at birth

Forty percent of the United States' population is brainwashed by the purposeful gender confusion push. I'll bet a large percentage of this 40% are 1) college educated, and 2) white women.

We've screwed the pooch just like the Roman's did. It was an impressive, short run.

Just send the meteor already.

Inga said...

“They’ve got Inga’s vote. But I suspect that is about it.”

Let’s see what you have to say after the 2024 election. The Democratic Party is making it clear they do NOT stand for authoritarian Christian Nationalism and the loons that buy into it and Maga craziness. Trans people aren’t going to make you be trans, unless you maybe were swinging that way anyway. Didn’t you used to refer to your own son as “they” here in these threads a couple of years ago?

wendybar said...

"Real women don’t have to fake it."
https://twitter.com/SarahHuckabee/status/1650312411524497410?s=20

iowan2 said...

Between trying to take away all rights of a woman’s autonomy over her body and this over the top loony transphobia,

So your fine with murdering babies and mutilating he ones that survive the suction tube?
Oregon and Washington are passing laws stripping parents of rights with no due process.

The simple fact, if the govt can take over your child because of gender dysphoria, you have lost all rights to rear your child.

John henry said...

Inga,

Do you believe in "bodily autonomy" for men? Or just for women?

And do you really even believe in bodily autonomy for women? In my experience most people use this phrase because they are embarrassed to say they are pro-abortion. They seldom seem to support any other autonomy for anyone.

I get the impression this describes you

John Henry

mccullough said...

We’re at the point now where trans women demand that lesbians suck their dick.

Soon they will demand that straight men suck their dick.

The Crack Emcee said...

I can't believe I actually found a video that explains what I've been telling you guys for years. This is where "woke" and all the rest of NewAge Naziism came from

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y011Pdrb3Sk

Watch the whole thing

Mason G said...

"Every Democrat Inga knows, including those who falsely claim to be either independent or moderate, lives in the same blue kool-aid drinking cocoon as Inga."

And these freaks aren't satisfied to be stewing together in their own disgusting juices, they insist that normal people be required to approve of their perversions, too.

cassandra lite said...

"We’re at the point now where trans women demand that lesbians suck their dick.

"Soon they will demand that straight men suck their dick." -mccullough

My son-in-law's sister was lesbian. She married a lesbian. (My daughter presided.) A year later, the sister transitioned and became a trans man, though still was married to the woman.

I kept wondering what happens when one member of a same-sex couple changes sexes, and a few months ago found out. The wife had an affair with...yes...a lesbian. And the marriage broke up.

Who, now, will the trans man sleep with? Lesbians? Apparently not. Gay men? Well, he doesn't have a dick? Other trans men? Then he's back to being lesbian. Trans women? But he never liked dick.

Big Mike said...

Polling shows suburban white women concerned about all the trans bashing.

@Michael, duly noted. But let’s rephrase the poll question. Let’s ask affluent suburban women whether they support the right of a biological male, still equipped with a functioning penis and working testicles, to sit naked in the same locker room, ogling them while they change into or out of a swim suit?

M said...

I have been surprised by how many of my leftist acquaintances are NOT for trans rights here in Florida. In fact the few gay men I still associate with actually dislike trannies. They claim they are gays who are using “woman face” to stay in the closet. Of course I don’t have any leftist gay friends anymore. Gay+Democrat= hard core mental case who can’t be trusted to feed your cat for the weekend without letting their hookup rob you.

Mark said...

Biden: policies protecting against radical transgender ideology are "close to sinful"

Pope Francis: “Gender ideology, today, is one of the most dangerous ideological colonizations,” Francis said in the interview published on the evening of March 10. “Why is it dangerous? Because it blurs differences and the value of men and women,” he added....the pope said that he talks about the subject “because some people are a bit naive and believe that it is the way to progress.”

He said that they “do not distinguish what is respect for sexual diversity or diverse sexual preferences from what is already an anthropology of gender, which is extremely dangerous because it eliminates differences, and that erases humanity, the richness of humanity, both personal, cultural, and social, the diversities and the tensions between differences.”


https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/253845/pope-francis-gender-ideology-is-one-of-the-most-dangerous-ideological-colonizations-today

Real American said...

[t]hough 60 percent also believe a person’s gender is determined by sex at birth.

They're 100% wrong. Sex is determined at fertilization. It's not determined at birth. It's not "assigned" by doctors or hospital staff or paperwork. Sex is merely recognized at birth by the doctors, nurses, and parents with the ability of sight.

Mark said...

Pope Francis: Genuine affirming care for persons who identify as "transgender" means helping them "to accept their own body as it was created, for ‘thinking that we enjoy absolute power over our own bodies turns, often subtly, into thinking that we enjoy absolute power over creation…Sex education should help young people to accept their own bodies and to avoid the pretension ‘to cancel out sexual difference because one no longer knows how to deal with it.’" (Amoris Laetitia, 285).

Francis further speaks on "the various forms of an ideology of gender that ‘denies the difference and reciprocity in nature of a man and a woman and envisages a society without sexual differences, thereby eliminating the anthropological basis of the family. This ideology leads to educational programs and legislative enactments that promote a personal identity and emotional intimacy radically separated from the biological difference between male and female. Consequently, human identity becomes the choice of the individual, one which can also change over time.’ It is a source of concern that some ideologies of this sort, which seek to respond to what are at times understandable aspirations, manage to assert themselves as absolute and unquestionable, even dictating how children should be raised. It needs to be emphasized that ‘biological sex and the socio-cultural role of sex (gender) can be distinguished but not separated.’…It is one thing to be understanding of human weakness and the complexities of life, and another to accept ideologies that attempt to sunder what are inseparable aspects of reality. Let us not fall into the sin of trying to replace the Creator. We are creatures, and not omnipotent. Creation is prior to us and must be received as a gift. At the same time, we are called to protect our humanity, and this means, in the first place, accepting it and respecting it as it was created.” (Amoris Laetitia, 56).

Kevin said...

Do you believe in "bodily autonomy" for men? Or just for women?

How about for women who maintain their bodily autonomy with a firearm?

Is that also a woman's right to choose?

NotWhoIUsedtoBe said...

I don't think this analysis is correct. Trans people are fine, hardly anyone cares. Encouraging children to be trans is the problem, and everyone knows it.

n.n said...

Trans people are fine, hardly anyone cares.

Tolerance.

Encouraging children to be trans is the problem, and everyone knows it.

Normalization, perhaps a parade. And, of course Levine's Dreams of Herr Mengele.

n.n said...

Where is the Christian school shooter's manifesto? Why hasn't it been released?

Stable through childhood, through much of her 20s, then trans visibility pushes her over the edge.

Jim at said...

Every Democrat, independent and moderate person I know is disgusted by the right

Maybe you should ask them if they're disgusted by your trans allies gunning down grade-school kids.

n.n said...

Do you believe in "bodily autonomy" for men? Or just for women?

Not even for women past the threshold of "viability" unless the human rite is performed in a darkness in a sanctuary State or authorized neighborhood Planned Parenthood clinic. Not for underage girls who will be carved and amended to realize Levine's dreams of herr Mengele.

Is that also a woman's right to choose?

The Pro-Choice ethical religion of progressive sects led by feminists assert that women possess neither dignity nor agency. Masculinists approve raping... reaping "benefits" without "burdens". Social progressives indulge pride in parades.

natatomic said...

The comment section over there was worse than the one at the NYT. Totally captured people. Someone called “the trans child” “the most marginalized.” Dude, the trans child didn’t even exist a decade ago. Not except in the rarest of cases, and even then, they received therapy and 80% grew out of it. The numbers of “trans kids” we see now are part of a social contagion. If you graduated high school before 2010, how many kids in your class were trans? One? ANY? How many became trans since leaving high school? One? Any? Now there are multiple in every. single. school. Dozens in some. Supposedly gen-z identifies as “queer” at a rate of 20%. 20% when generations previous it was 1-2%.

I hated my body. I hated my boobs. I engaged in self-harm, I had an eating disorder, I was depressed, and I often dressed like a boy. I even played on all-boy teams in late elementary school. I never once THOUGHT I was a boy. If I were in school today, that is EXACTLY what I would be told. And in such a vulnerable, delicate, and impressionable state? I would have believed it. I’d be begging my parents for testosterone and a mastectomy. But here I am, mid-30s and I’m HAPPY with my body. I’ve birthed 4 children, breastfed the three that were born alive, and I can safe with full certainty, NONE of the shit they are telling kids about their bodies and “identity” is true. Puberty sucks. Almost everyone is uncomfortable during puberty. Suddenly is the #1 sign you’re trans. BS, I say. But they promise you happiness. They promise transitioning will fix you and make you happy. You are love bombed because NOW you’re special. What depressed, low-confidence, confused white kid (who nowadays is ALSO told they are bad and oppressive just because of their skin color) could possibly fight that kind of allure?

The blood of these poor mutilated and sterilized children will be on the hands of the people in that comment section for sure. Any ANYONE else who enables children to go through this shit.

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

If women won't vote for the GOP maybe trans will?

ridiculous.

Big Mike said...

Sex is determined at fertilization.

@Real American, you stayed awake during high school biology class. That's better than any Democrat did.

Known Unknown said...

"Inga: "Every Democrat, independent and moderate person I know is disgusted by the right, and the last several elections have reflected this growing disgust.""

Did you ask Pauline Kael what she thinks?

RichardJohnson said...

Inga
Every Democrat, independent and moderate person I know is disgusted by the right, and the last several elections have reflected this growing disgust.

I am reminded of Tom Lehrer’s introduction to National Brotherhood Week.

"I'm sure we all agree that we ought to love one another, and I know there are people in the world who do not love their fellow human beings, and I HATE people like that!"

RichardJohnson said...

Inga
Every Democrat, independent and moderate person I know is disgusted by the right, and the last several elections have reflected this growing disgust.

I am reminded of Tom Lehrer’s introduction to National Brotherhood Week.

"I'm sure we all agree that we ought to love one another, and I know there are people in the world who do not love their fellow human beings, and I HATE people like that!"

DavidUW said...

Every democrat should come out full on the side of compelling normal people to lie and state men are women and vice versa.
Every democrat needs to announce their support for full on castration of thousands and thousands of boys and phalloplasties for thousands and thousands of girls.
Every democrat needs to show their support of erasing women’s spaces and locker room rapes.

Be a full throated defender of compelled lies, forced surgeries, gay conversion by scalpel, sex crimes.

Let that trannie flag fly.

Temujin said...

It's not an important civil rights issue. It's a cult with powers way beyond it's actual numbers, amplified by the media arm of the Democratic Party looking for yet another wedge between the American people and their sanity. I cannot take them seriously as a 'righteous cause' when they're for children cutting off body parts, taking puberty blockers, and changing their genders.

As adults, I don't care a whit about what they do. They should live their lives. They are not special. They are not to be celebrated anymore than any other random chump seated next to you. They are simply just another ennobled victim class looking for a special status above the ordinary citizen. Respect isn't doled out that way.

Tina Trent said...

You are losing us and the working class.

charis said...

At the beginning of church, our pastor announces his name and pronouns now, in support of trans and nonbinary people. I imagine this practice isn't widespread in churches, though.

Laughing Fox said...

So are trans people kept from voting, from buying property, from meeting together, from writing their opinions? Where is the "civil rights" issue here?
On the other side, is it a civil right to have others address you as you would wish? To have others adopt your own opinion of yourself? I'm not sure how that would work across the whole population. It seems that is pushed as a "right" only for homosexual and trans people.

PM said...

"I'm 6-2."
"Really? Let's measure. Um, 5-9."
"I'm 6-2! You're a hater!"

notalawyer said...

Inga fears “authoritarian Christian Nationalism,” the specter that always looms and never lands. The lady needs to meet some Christians to get a clearer perspective.

notalawyer said...

@Mark: Thanks for quoting Pope Francis, a.k.a. the blind squirrel of the Vatican, or maybe the stopped clock of Rome. I hadn’t heard of Amoris Laetitia, and I plan to get hold of it right now.

Greg the Class Traitor said...

Courageous red-state Democrats could help forge a new consensus for their party.

What "consensus" is that? The "consensus"that "men can get pregnant"?

In doing so, they can help the party meet national voters where they seem to be.... Sixty-four percent of American adults favor laws that protect trans people from some discrimination in housing, work, and in public spaces

1: "Some" is doing a hell of a lot of work there
2: Bathrooms, lorckerrooms, and changing rooms are not "public spaces".
The GOP fight to keep men and their penises out of female bathrooms, lorckerrooms, and changing rooms is entirely consistent with what the public wants

[t]hough 60 percent also believe a person’s gender is determined by sex at birth
Got that? 60% of Americans completely reject trans ideology

Democrats can defend trans rights as a matter of principle, but also to win votes. They need not fear wokeness.
By all means, you keep pushing that!

They can tell voters the truth
No, the truth is that if you are born with a penis you are male, if you are born with a vagina you are female, and that "gender identity" is meaningless bullshit.

The truth is the enemy of the Left

The right meddles in private medical decisions.
Are you fighting to get rid of the FDA? No?

Then YOU are "meddling in private medical decisions".

Can parents have sex with their kids? no?
Then you're "interfering with people's bodily autonomy"

Chemically castrating children is child abuse.

Puberty blockers are chemical castration.

We don't let kids get tattoos. We don't let them pose for naked pictures. We have age of consent laws, and when the parents help other adults get around the laws it's quite properly considered child abuse, and people go to jail for that.

Just like anyone who "prescribes" puberty blockers for "trans kids" should go to jail, as should any parent who approves of such things.

If you're having puberty start at age 8, then it's quite reasonable to take puberty blockers for a few years to push puberty back to a more normal start time.

Beyond that?

it should not be done, it should be against the law to do it, and if the Democrats what to pick that hill to die on I strongly encourage them to do so

The right traffics in hate.
Search the internet for "TERFs", and what the Left has to say about them.
If you want trafficking in hate, the Left is your place to go

And the right will crush its opponents, if it can.... Hate can rally conservatives, but those who peddle it don’t speak for most people...."

Oh, you mean like the Right will drive anyone off of social media who disagrees with them?

No, that's the Left.

And since 60% of Americans understand that gender ideology is bullish!t, the right clearly DOES speak for most people.

Anyone who actually gave a damn about "trans" people would fight to not encourage their mental disorder.

We ARE fighting for "trans" people, just like we're fighting for people who think they're Joan of Arc when we encourage them to stop believing the lie

Greg the Class Traitor said...

Temujin said...
As adults, I don't care a whit about what they do

Sure, so long as they leave everyone else alone, and out of their delusions.

You a guy who wants to walk around in dresses? Knock yourself out

You a guy who wants to go into women's restrooms, locker rooms, changing rooms, spas? Wants to compete in women's sports? Get sentenced to a women's prison instead of a men's prison? Go into a battered women's shelter to stay for the night?

GFY

You want to "help trans people"? Then encourage more public places to have single person bathrooms, where the mentally damaged can do their business without harming anyone else.

But if you're going to fight for the "right" of people with penises to go into women's spaces, then we are going to fight to completely and utterly crush and destroy you, and anyone who joins with you

Because us fighting you is the right thing to do

Greg the Class Traitor said...

https://www.campusreform.org/article?id=22407
Even once we made it into the event hall and through the intense security, everyone inside the venue sat in shocked silence when an incendiary device exploded close enough to the building that the lights shook and the sound reverberated throughout the room.

Being told to stand clear of the windows as the chants of the protesters became louder at the end of the debate, and being rushed out of the back exit by armed police were also new experiences for me.


This is what "hate" looks like, and it's all coming from the "pro trans" side