February 15, 2023

"I continue to be concerned about the impacts of the Feb 3 train derailment near East Palestine, OH, and the effects on families in the ten days since their lives were upended through no fault of their own."

Tweeted Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg, after experiencing some criticism from Republicans for his lack of visibility after the disaster. 

Along with wondering about their drinking water, many residents pondered their options as a strong odor of chemicals continued to hang over the town. Some locals said they are considering leaving East Palestine and are frustrated with how little they know about their potential exposure to toxic chemicals.... 
Ohio state officials on Tuesday focused on reassuring residents that the air in East Palestine remains safe to breathe and that those who evacuated last week can live in their homes.... The plume flowing down the Ohio River is being diluted as it moves and is not expected to taint any drinking water.... In addition, fish are not continuing to die... indicating that new contamination isn’t flowing into the local waters.... 
When the train derailed, federal investigators and chemical safety experts immediately homed in on a toxic and highly flammable gas being transported in five of the cars: vinyl chloride. Afraid the train cars would explode, sending shrapnel into neighborhoods, authorities decided the better of “two bad options” was to release and burn the vinyl chloride, [Governor Mike] DeWine said Tuesday. The move sent dangerous gases, hydrogen chloride and phosgene, into the air, but averted an explosion that DeWine said he had been told would be “catastrophic.”... 

45 comments:

JRoberts said...

Pretty Boy Pete has certainly displayed his lack of substance over the last few months.

Another Democrat empty suit looking out only for himself and his next job promotion.

Original Mike said...

"When the train derailed, federal investigators and chemical safety experts immediately homed in on a toxic and highly flammable gas being transported in five of the cars: vinyl chloride. Afraid the train cars would explode, sending shrapnel into neighborhoods, authorities decided the better of “two bad options” was to release and burn the vinyl chloride, [Governor Mike] DeWine said Tuesday."

Did they even consult Pete?

Rusty said...

Get blown up or get gassed. That's a hell of a choice.

rhhardin said...

I'm more curious about why the previous trackside detector to the last didn't alarm on a budding problem. The rest is just bad luck.

How fast problems can build affects how widely spaced detectors have to be.

Old and slow said...

At last he speaks! It must be worse than I thought, and it looks pretty dire. It takes a lot to tempt mayor Pete of hibernation. Railway safety regulations and enforcement are the responsibility of the FRA under delegation from the Secretary of Transportation, you know, Mayor Pete.

Michael said...

phosgene...phosgene!

I'm not a chemist, but have read enough to know phosgene is extremely lethal in small concentrations and as a heavy gas settles to the surface. It doesn't float away in the atmosphere.

I wonder what air sampling of basements in East Palestine is showing.

Dave Begley said...

Pete is a total failure.

wendybar said...

It took him 10 days to comment about this, but he is worried about construction crews coming into towns that don't look like the people who live there and wants the construction companies to hire untrained people?? He has no clue what he is doing. But he is gay, so there is that.

rwnutjob said...

Booty judge is so bad at his job, people actually know the name of the Transportation Secretary.

RideSpaceMountain said...

The Peter Principle - Concept - The idea that in hierarchical organizations certain individuals will gain only as much skill or expertise as is needed to get to the next highest position, eventually reaching a point where they are thoroughly unqualified for their current job or any other above it.

(Also see, Pete "why yes my lactation girdle does make my breasts look big!" Buttigieg)

wendybar said...

πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ The FJC πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ
@The_FJC
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Feb 14
If the water in Ohio is safe, let's bottle it, send it to DC, and have everyone that is claiming that it's safe, including Biden, drink it on camera. I'll wait. πŸ™„

Breezy said...

There’s that phrase again…. “through no fault of their own”. Why would anyone think the East Palestine townspeople held any blame?

Andrew said...

If Trump were president, the media would be calling for the Transportation Secretar's resignation.

But Pete continues to be concerned. That's reassuring. I think what would help the situation is another Buttigeig family selfie. Then everyone can say, "How cute!"

Scott Gustafson said...

Best I can tell from Buttigieg’s actions, his job is to spread the woke agenda not deal with physical transportation issues. From that standpoint he is doing the job he was assigned.

Leland said...

Every nice sunny day in north Texas, the national weather service will issue an air quality alert. Now, after a toxic spill and fire, the air is fine to breathe? The entity that needs to be censored for disinformation is the federal government.

JRoberts said...

Can anyone take a look at our current list of cabinet secretaries and point out one or two who are actually doing a good job of serving our nation?

Vice President?
State?
Treasury?
Defense?
Attorney General?
Homeland Security?
Transportation?
Energy?
Education?

JRoberts said...

Can anyone take a look at our current list of cabinet secretaries and point out one or two who are actually doing a good job of serving our nation?

Vice President?
State?
Treasury?
Defense?
Attorney General?
Homeland Security?
Transportation?
Energy?
Education?

320Busdriver said...

How did the first responders @Chernobyl fare?

320Busdriver said...

Who pulls the strings that operate the Manchurian candidate?

Real wages fell ~2% last month.

Everything according to plan.

Chuck said...

So Althouse blogs the Washington Post story; Althouse commenters -- nearly unanimously -- use the content to attack Transportation Secretary Buttigieg. Mostly personal and political attacks; very few comments based on DOT regulations, federal statutes, etc.

Two things occur to me. One is that here we have a WaPo story (WaPo, the hated outlet of LeftwingBezosWokemob news) that asks critical questions of Buttigieg and in fact opens up (as we see here) a highly critical discussion of Buttigieg. Is WaPo still a house organ of leftist progressivism? Or is that only sometimes the case?

The second thing that occurs to me is the absolute predictability of Blog Post to Comments in this case. Calling this "red meat to the base" seems reasonable to me. At least in terms of predicting the precise styling of the comments seen on this page.

Now; setting aside how completely predictable all of these comments were from Althouse's main blog post, perhaps she had another purpose or another angle in blogging this story as she did. Hearing about that might be interesting.

William50 said...

In the photos I've seen it looks like the train cars carrying the toxic substance were white. Just a coincidence? I think not! Pete can now add racist train cars to his list.

William said...

Sadly, the commenters here do not appreciate Pete's handling of the situation. They fail to note that the FEMA team that he has sent in to distribute gas masks and aid in the burial of small pets and children are a diverse group that looks like the people they are sent in to help. Only those who priorities are in order can understand the severity of the situation and how he has taken the proper steps to remedy it. Some of the criticism of Pete borders on the stochastic.

rcocean said...

Well at least he's no longer on materinity leave. I guess he and his husband have some free time, so he's working at his job.

rcocean said...

Thanks for Posting about this. I don't live in the Midwest, but we all know this would be front page MSM news on TV and whatever, if this had happened outside LA/SF or in the Northeast. but its "Flyover Country" so the news execs don't care.

gotta make space for Jews getting antisemtic flyers in Florida. Or a subway attack in NYC.
Y'know the important stuff.

RNB said...

"I continue to be concerned..." = "Ah feel yore pain!"

Joe Smith said...

They purposefully burned toxic chemicals.

We're from the government and we're here to help...

tim in vermont said...

"What, me worry?" - Mayor Pete

Just yesterday he was hectoring America that there are too many white men in the construction trades... What does that have to do with "transportation"? Now, after getting that off his chest, he deigns to comment on the actual substance of his job.

Quaestor said...

Let's face facts, shall we? Buttigieg's single qualification for office is his sexual proclivities.

MadisonMan said...

If the water in Ohio is safe, let's bottle it, send it to DC, and have everyone that is claiming that it's safe, including Biden, drink it on camera.
Loved that scene in Erin Brockovich.

Goju said...

Latest news release says that this train was classified as not carrying hazardous chemicals. Think of that as you watch the next train pass through your town.

JAORE said...

"...he is worried about construction crews coming into towns that don't look like the people who live there".

As a former construction guy from a roadway construction family I can pinpoint Pete's distortion. (Generalization of course.)

Non-union jobs look a LOT like the neighborhoods.

Union projects do not.

But the POTUS would like every job to be union.

Try to square that circle Peety.

BUMBLE BEE said...

Those look like VERY straight tracks.

Misinforminimalism said...

It wasn't his "lack of visibility." He was fully visible - complaining about the racial composition of America's workforce.

It's his lack of ability - at least insofar as things that actually appear in what America would assume to be his job description.

Beasts of England said...

Has Greta the Climate Goblin released a statement, re: this environmental disaster?

stlcdr said...

Oh, it's 'concerning'. That's ok, then, if it's only concerning.

This is dereliction of duty, in the least case.

Curious George said...

"Quaestor said...
Let's face facts, shall we? Buttigieg's single qualification for office is his sexual proclivities."

That was the deciding factor for Althouse's son.

wendybar said...

JAORE said...
"...he is worried about construction crews coming into towns that don't look like the people who live there".

As a former construction guy from a roadway construction family I can pinpoint Pete's distortion. (Generalization of course.)

Non-union jobs look a LOT like the neighborhoods.

Union projects do not.

But the POTUS would like every job to be union.

Try to square that circle Peety.


2/15/23, 10:39 AM

EXACTLY!!!

SteveWe said...

@Chuck, nearly all of the comments here respond to the facts on the ground and Buttigieg's public responses. So, Buttigieg is "concerned." As one comment notes, he feels your pain, but not deeply enough to actually do anything that helps. It's all about his feeling; it's all about him.

Meanwhile, toxic gas lingers in the air of East Palestine residents and hazardous chemicals (i.e., butyl acrylate) are detected in waters used by water supply entities as far away as 43 miles in Steubenville.

Sorry Charlie; there is no defense for Buttigieg, the bicycle clown of the moment.

tim in vermont said...

It's funny that Chuck uses any opportunity that comes to hand to defend the FBI and CIA disinformation clearinghouse, the Washington Post.

tim in vermont said...

Chuck somehow missed the WaPo piece by Kessler blogged here, backing up the CJR piece that he so roundly condemned, and promised us a full rebuttal on first opportunity, and here he is, he skipped right over it. Imagine that.

tim in vermont said...

This isn't even funny. Lake Erie, Lake Ontario, the whole fucking Northeast, Canadians are complaining, as they rightly should. But not to worry, Biden and the Democrats broke the rail strike so that the mid-terms weren't affected. So it's not like they ignore freight rail.

https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1625959441316077570

Wince said...

Remember how Biden became emotional about signing "burn pit" legislation?

Where is he now?

Big Mike said...
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Big Mike said...

The latest information I have learned is that the US EPA has not performed the water quality testing that Ohio Governor DeWine claimed that they had. Was he lied to? Was he part of a coverup? God, I hope this information is wrong, but I have a bad feeling that it isn’t.

Steven said...

If Pete is concerned about the workers coming in and looking like the local population, I guess he will be screening out the minorities. East Palestine and Columbiana County are over 95% white.