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80 comments:
Jimmy Carter has entered hospice care which, in terms of current democratical political practices, means he is ready for his next political campaign to begin with Rosalyn out front.
Never liked the guy as a politician and probably even less after he left office once he started his sanctimonious preaching. But he has lived an unusual life. May he pass in peace.
There are a lot of Prayers for America going on in the Asbury Revival.
Problem with posting a link is that every article I've read -- about six -- has the author hijacking the event to speculate about what he thinks the "reason" for it is. But there are a lot of reasons.
This one is the longest of all the Asbury revivals, of which there have been quite a few over the decades. One lasting 118 hours in 1950; another running 144 hours in 1970. But at 10 days and counting, this must be the longest. The spontaneous nature of it, the leaderless custody, and the awesome mood participants have reported, make this remarkable, to me.
My last Democrat vote (in 1976). Even after I concluded Reagan was what what the USA needed, I always thought Carter a basically decent man (with a mean streak--we all have our failings). As my father used to say, his heart was in the right place.
I voted against him twice, but will acknowledge that -- along with Jefferson, JQ Adams, and Taft had one of the best post-Presidencies.
I'm happy he and Rosalyn have had such a long life together. I got to meet him once, long before fame, because a classmate's father was also USNA '46 along with Carter, and for a few years after the war, the two families shared a quonset hut just west of Yale Bowl. My father, a Navy officer who out-ranked Carter and Brown, interacted with both of them regularly at the time.
Fair winds and following seas, Mr. Carter.
Sorry I missed chance to see him in small group setting in spring 1975, when he was already running for president. Did not take him seriously. Saw the WF Buckleys instead, and remember nothing except her being witty.
His Presidency was less than spectacular, but he was the model for ex-Presidents. He largely stayed away from criticizing his successors, though not always, and his service and commitment to Habitat for Humanity was exemplary. A long, fruitful life of serving his fellow man, as his faith led him.
Looks like he will not meet my hope of living as long as VP John Nance Garner, who fell days short of 99. Will Mrs Carter live as long as Bess Truman, who got to be 1st Lady in part because JNG turned on and ran against FDR briefly in '40?
He was the first person for whom I casted a vote for president @ age 18
Longest living former President!
Going into hospice sets a good example for the rest of us. My mother did and she was much happier than she would have been if doctors had been taking "heroic measures" to try to fix everything that was going wrong.
All of us will face this moment, and prayers are requested to help everyone through the transition. The judge on the other side knows all and is merciful. If we want mercy, we need to extend it.
May Jimmy find peace, love and comfort. I believe he always did his best and if accused of and arrested for being a Christian, his prosecutors would find ample evidence to convict him.
Considering the Void
by Jimmy Carter
When I behold the charm
of evening skies, their lulling endurance;
the patterns of stars with names
of bears and dogs, a swan, a virgin;
other planets that the Voyager showed
were like and so unlike our own,
with all their diverse moons,
bright discs, weird rings, and cratered faces;
comets with their streaming tails
bent by pressure from our sun;
the skyscape of our Milky Way
holding in its shimmering disc
an infinity of suns
(or say a thousand billion);
knowing there are holes of darkness
gulping mass and even light,
knowing that this galaxy of ours
is one of multitudes
in what we call the heavens,
it troubles me. It troubles me.
May the rest of his days be filled with family, memories, and love.
I voted for him in 1976 but not in 1980. Nevertheless, I have always believed him to be a righteous, upright man. A life well lived!
He was an authoritarian and deeply vain politician whose bizarre interest in the most extreme forms of dictatorship, from North Korea to Jim Jones, which his wife raved about to me, betrayed his true soul.
It was all an illusion, Meade. People in Georgia hated him, and he hated them. Given the power, we would all be in his camps. I didn't hate him, but only because his mother was proud of him and was a pip. But there is little mourning here in Georgia today.
Rest in peace anyway.
a fine find, Meade, thanks.
Be Not Troubled anymore, mr. Carter.
Don't give up the day job, Jimmah. (Wait, he didn't die or anything did he? In that case, Too Soon?)
Wondering who will show up, and how much coverage will be given, to the Rage Against The War Machine Marches tomorrow. Could get interesting.
Jimmy Carter could teach Christians how to be true Christians. He epitomized Christian love and charity. If more Christians were to model themselves after him this would be a better world. His gentle countenance was a blessing to the people of the US. May he slip from this world to the Heavenly realm peacefully.
I have a prayer request for my family. Please pray for the Carmichaels and ask that we are peaceful and safe over the next few days. Thank you.
Well put, Meade.
Hope Jimmy has a quick and painless death. And that he has thank God for his long life on planet earth.
To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
A time to be born, and a time to die;
A truly ACTIVE Christian man not only in word but in deed.The world could stand more Jimmy Carters.
I think he has been earnest and sincere.
Jimmy Carter has outlived his successor and his successor’s successor. Also T Kennedy, J McCain, countless other peers. If outliving others is a Boy Scout badge, he has earned it. Who else can say their last election was over 42 years ago? Peace to him.
In light of his impending demise, I will only write good things about President Cater. He did two excellent things as president. He appointed Volker as Chairman of the Fed. And he deregulated transportation, specifically, the airline, trucking and railroad businesses. These were significant accomplishments, which contributed to President Reagan’s very successful presidency. You will note that today no Democrats mention these accomplishments, I guess because Democrats today disagree with them.
Jimmy is the most famous American I've ever met.
Also the proudest and most vain. A Christian most aware of other people's sins.
I think he tried his best but didn't always show the wisdom he thought he had. But I hope he is at peace and happy to be surrounded by the family and friends that love him. I wish him a peaceful passing.
I haven't heard anything from any of the Democrat's leadership yet - I guess that's because they know they will still be getting his votes.
He’s the only president I voted for once and against once and then didn’t get my way either time.
There are 2 other presidents that I voted for and against but in each of those cases, I got my way one of the times.
Deliver your servant, James Earl Carter,
O Sovereign Lord Christ,
from all evil, and set him free from every bond;
that he may rest with all your saints in the eternal habitations;
where with the Father and the Holy Spirit you live and reign,
one God, for ever and ever. Amen.
Depart, O Christian soul, out of this world;
In the Name of God the Father Almighty who created you;
In the Name of Jesus Christ who redeemed you;
In the Name of the Holy Spirit who sanctifies you.
May your rest be this day in peace,
and your dwelling place in the Paradise of God.
Amen.
Into your hands, O merciful Savior, we commend your servant Jimmy.
Acknowledge, we humbly beseech you,
a sheep of your own fold, a lamb of your own flock,
a sinner of your own redeeming.
Receive him into the arms of your mercy,
into the blessed rest of everlasting peace,
and into the glorious company of the saints in light.
Amen.
May his soul and the souls of all the departed, through the
mercy of God, rest in peace.
Amen.
Let us also pray for all who mourn, that they may cast their
care on God, and know the consolation of his love.
Almighty God, look with pity upon the sorrows of your
servants for whom we pray. Remember them, Lord, in your mercy;
nourish them with patience; comfort them with a sense of your
goodness; lift up your countenance upon them; and give them
peace; through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Amen.
"He’s the only president I voted for once and against once and then didn’t get my way either time."
You always seemed like a Jerry Ford gal. Watch your step.
If only Trump had handled his loss as well as Carter. He really lost me there at the end.
Thought the guy was a terrible president with really poor judgment. His giving away the Panama Canal was/is unforgivable.
But I think that he is at base a decent man. His decision to end treatment is a very valid choice. He is after all in his late 90s.
Godspeed, Jimmy.
May he have peace at the last.
Clearly in over his head as President but was a decent man and a good husband. Godspeed Mr. Carter.
May he vanquish all the crazed rabbits up in Heaven…
I probably wouldn't have voted for the guy, but this is the time to give credit where credit is due. He pushed to
deregulate air travel, railroads, and trucking, and after appointing the disastrous William Miller as Federal Reserve Chairman he corrected his mistake by appointing Paul Volcker to succeed Miller.
Carter did deregulate transportation and that was a great thing. Full credit there.
Governor Carter showed us how he rolled in Georgia. He told us he was a conservative and only wanted to completely reform the State government, but when he did it somehow it all came out completely liberal.
But we voted for him anyhow in 1976 because we were proud that he was the first Southern candidate allowed onto a major national party ticket since forever. We did not count Truman because he was just FDR’s accident and had not been wanted by anyone. And Wilson had long sense gone Princeton yankee before he ran.
But we knew Jimmy well. And we understood him. He tried to be a blessed peacemaker. Farewell Jimmy.
Governor Carter showed us how he rolled in Georgia. He told us he was a conservative and only wanted to completely reform the State government, but when he did it somehow it all came out completely liberal.
But we voted for him anyhow in 1976 because we were proud that he was the first Southern candidate allowed onto a major national party ticket since forever. We did not count Truman because he was just FDR’s accident and had not been wanted by anyone. And Wilson had long sense gone Princeton yankee before he ran.
But we knew Jimmy well. And we understood him. He tried to be a blessed peacemaker. Farewell Jimmy.
Oh look... another chance for Stacey Abrams to introduce herself on the national stage.
Too soon?
I have a puzzlement, which I may as well present as a conjecture. A surmise.
There are, I am told, or have been, thousands of languages. Some still exist, some are known only as dead languages, and no doubt, many have vanished without trace or record.
My surmise is that every language employs a distinction between nouns and verbs. And that every language includes at least a rudimentary concept of number. At the very least, the distinction between one and more than one. And also that every natural language that exists or has ever existed employs the distinction between masculine and feminine. Because that is a concept fully as important as the Leninist distinction between "who/whom", or the mathematical distinction between "one/many".
In fact, it is quite common for languages to impose the M/F distinction where it makes no sense at all. In Spanish, a ball is a (feminine) pelota, but a sphere is a (masculine) esfera (ends in -a, but from Greek). I will remark, that English has similar confusions regarding number. That is, the language insists upon conveying a distinction that may not exist in the actual referents.
Carter's reputation has grown over the years, but he gave us double digit unemploymaent and inflation. stagflation was out of control. Interest rates were 13 percent in 1980. Carter was elected as a Populist, but its hard to see any populism in his Presidental economic or business policies. Later, he would support NAFTA and oppose immigration restrictions.
His foreign policy seemed to be dithering and weak. He made much of his Christianity, but its hard to remember any marching in a Pro-life parade or Conservative judicial appointments, and he attacked the "Moral Majority". His religious beliefs seemed completely personal and didn't effect his public policy. His attacks on Reagan for being a "Racist", rubbed me the wrong way.
He certainly wasn't any worse than Jerry Ford, but its hard to see how he would've improved on Reagan and probably would've made a mess of things.
I wasn’t an adult when Carter was president. What I know him for is living in a very modest house and building houses for poor people. Unlike a lot of ex-presidents he didn’t upgrade his life style and add zeroes to his net worth. He seemed to dedicate himself to service. Ironic that he didn’t get a second term when he might’ve been the only one with a character deserving of it. A life well lived. God be with you, sir.
As a Grand Rapids native, I have love for Gerald R Ford. And he and Jimmy developed a wonderful friendship well after both of their presidencies.
Habitat for Humanity was a righteous cause. I pray he does not suffer much. I thank God for caregivers who work Hospice. I pray for his family and for all of us. He did love this country, that I believe.
Drago said...
Jimmy Carter has entered hospice care which, in terms of current democratical political practices, means he is ready for his next political campaign to begin with Rosalyn out front.
Democratical from democratic means that Carter's political practices pertained to democracy which won't hurt his encounter with God. Rosalynn is still chugging along, having been married Jimmy for 75 years and the couple spent 35 years giving of their time to Habitat for Humanity house building.
Having lost my wife recently after her short stay in hospice, I find no fun or humor in Drago's comment.
Perhaps not a good president, but a thoroughly good and decent man. May he be remembered for that.
I suffered through his Presidency so I am not a fan, but my prayers are with him now.
He is the only president I ever met in person. 20 years ago I participated in a large Habitat for Humanity project in Alabama— something like 20 houses put up in a week— and I was randomly assigned to the house the Carters were personally working on alongside everyone else. i had to pass a Secret Service background check and everything.
I can't agree with Mr. Carter that the mere act of assessing the sexual desirability of a woman to whom you are not married is a sin. But I can agree that every slope is slippery, and temptation is best resisted when it is first encountered.
I have reviled the man, for his political positions, but I find I cannot condemn him. May his passing be a release. May I die as free from blame as I believe he will.
I wish President Carter, like all of us, peace, love and forgiveness at the end of this life.
I hope people will share some of their prayers (and dollars) for Hospice. When all your drugs and all your doctors are finally of no use, Hospice is still there with you. God bless them.
Carter wasn't our worst president, he just happened to be found wanting more visibly than many of his predecessors.
His public life, I believe, was shaped to a great degree by his time at the Naval Academy. He may not have owned an "IHTFP" banner or other momento but his psyche was wrapped tightly in one. While not on record as loathing the military, he worked deliberately to diminish its influence in national and international affairs.
"Politics is war by peaceful means."
I don't know who said that, but it's right on the money.
Being political (i.e. fighting the "good fight") all the time can destroy relationships. Remember that.
I'm not saying one is better than the other. But if you get in a fight with people, prepare to suffer a loss of relationships.
Law school (and being a lawyer) is stressful to people because it's a fight all the time. It's like being a cop is stressful. Being a soldier is super-stressful, with people shooting at you, sometimes every day!
Being a priest or a psychiatrist can be mentally stressful. I imagine doctors have a lot of stress, even though nobody is trying to kill them. Their stress is "I hope I'm not killing anybody today."
I have a buddy of mine who went from being a soldier in war to being a trial attorney at home. To him, being a trial attorney is a walk in the park. No stress at all!
Me, I loved law school (it was like reading an Agatha Christie, kind of intellectual fantasy, a "life of the mind").
I really hated being a lawyer. Being an assistant D.A. was like working in a DMV. Huge amount of time stress. I would often have to "resolve" 300 cases a day. That's kind of insane. In law school we would leisurely try to resolve one case in an hour and call it. I lasted six months as an assistant DA and then I was out of that office.
Pro-lifers "fighting the good fight" have a huge amount of stress.
All the early feminists in the 20th century had a huge amount of stress, trying to get the right to vote.
The women who fought to have people understand the risks of rape had a huge amount of stress.
Here is Glenn Beck trying to do something pro-life. I liked Glenn Beck back in the day (he was kind of a never-Trumper, I think!) but he's usually funny and relaxed. Covering the Gosnell case stressed him out.
Politics is stressful, war is insanely stressful, film school is bliss, Althouse blog is bliss. Pick your battles and enjoy your life!
Jimmy Carter was a great Christian but the Iranian hostage situation caused him a huge amount of stress and he fucked that up. Very serious Christians are going to have an awful time fighting a war, because the stress of knowing that you are killing so many innocent people will really keep you up at night.
(See also the stress Harry Blackmun was under in all the years after he wrote Roe v. Wade -- he got all the hate mail).
Hank Arron got all kinds of racist hate mail when he was trying to break Babe Ruth's home run record. When he finally broke it, he was jogging around the bases. And some insane white hippie jumped the fence and sprinted directly towards him. Arron didn't give a shit and didn't even look at the guy. All the white hippie wanted to do was pat him on the bank. Arron didn't give a shit.
Black guys, when the world really was racist and oppressive (see Jackie Robinson), are boss as shit.
Black guys whining about the stresses of racism in the 21st century? Dude.
Obama had a huge amount of stress as the first African-American president. Look at what happened to his hair in 8 years. Other presidents have had similar stress. I think one of the stresses for presidents is the fear that somebody is going to take a shot at you.
Reagan was amazing. He got shot! "Honey, I forgot to duck." Reagan remained fearless until he was out of office. He was always calm, always cool, always with a sense of humor.
Reagan fucked up an early abortion decision (when he was governor). Here's his daughter (great relationship I guess!) talking about her Dad in the NYT. Forget the politics of what the liberal rag is doing. Focus on the love she has for her Dad and how she's trying to understand him.
Here's Reagan's pro-life book, published in 1983.
Almost nobody read it, I think, and the media ignored it(!)
Imagine a sitting president publishing a book while he is president and the fucking media ignores it.
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."
His was the first inauguration I watched on television, in the elementary school library. Jimmy did lots of hunting on the property where my home is now…
I liked that he built homes for people who struggled to afford them. I would have preferred if he promoted policies that lifted people out of poverty instead…
Brett Kavanaugh at his confirmation hearing, almost cried. He was under tremendous stress.
See if you can find examples of liberals or leftists or feminists laughing at Kavanaugh because he got so emotional in his confirmation hearing.
The reason he was so emotional is that he's a sensitive and highly thoughtful man. A false rape accusation really fucks up a sensitive and highly thoughtful man.
I don't really have to defend Kavanaugh or how brave he is. The man's a bad ass.
His wife was terrified that he would be on the Supreme Court and actively encouraged him to avoid it. She prayed that he would be "not confirmed." She was terrified that he was going to be shot.
An insane guy heard a little voice in his head that told him to go shoot Kavanaugh and other Supreme Court Justices too. So he traveled cross-country to Kavanaugh's house to shoot him (and he had plans to shoot multiple Supreme Court Justices, apparently, but Kavanaugh was the first attempt).
Kavanaugh was famous (or infamous) because feminists and the media and lots of other people insisted he was a rapist.
So (I suspect) that's why the would-be assassin wanted to start with Kavanaugh.
There was one police car outside his house (even though the liberals in D.C. were in no hurry to protect the Supreme Court from assassins, so no federal protection if I remember right, no Secret Service, none of that shit. Just one police car.
The would-be assassin heard another voice gently suggest that he turn himself into the police. So that's what he did. Kavanaugh wasn't shot, thank God.
All five Justices who voted to overturn Roe v. Wade were under intense stress. They held firm and Alito wrote a very fine legal opinion, as if this new case was just like all the other cases the Supreme Court heard all the time.
Alito is truly a bad ass. He ran the Blackmun risk of being maligned for the next 50 years of his life. What about all the hate mail! Alito just shrugged it off. No biggie. Next case!
Ruth Bader Ginsburg was also a bad ass.
This is a tiny, frail woman.
She watched the Gorsuch confirmation and the Kavanaugh confirmation.
She defended the boys 100%.
Subtext to all the feminists who tried to go to war on Kavanaugh: "You're full of shit and I know it."
He took lots of grief for his energy policies but he did encourage US energy independence, a stance current liberals should emulate…
The Biden Administration Abandons RCP8.5
Now let's update all the research and policy still based on Zombie science
I expect the follow the science crowd will continue to follow the junk science…
WOOPS -- my math was bad last night. He ran in '76 and '80, so I suppose it wasn't until '80 that I was old enough to vote in a presidential race. I voted for him (really didn't have any conservative leanings till I was about 30)
some words are based on latin roots and some are not,
as to Carter, yes prayers for his current circumstance,
he surrendered Iran and Nicaragua, to the Islamists and Marxist, the Camp David accord, was as much done to Kamal Adham's influence on Sadat, which the payment was operating BCCI in the states, under Clark Cliffords aegis, where he pretended to be an amiable dunce,he was the prototype for Clinton as trojan horse for the left, he took money from Class A war criminal Sasagawa, to fund his foundation, in the 00s, his election monitoring enabled the stealing of elections in places from Panama to Haiti,
Building houses for poor people is nice, but it has the terrible of diverting attention from the major reason that housing is expensive. Human laws--zoning, environmental, building codes, permitting, etc.--make it pretty much impossible to build cheap places for people to live.
Major reform of these would have many times the effect of Habitat for Humanity. (Even if only moderate income housing is built, the housing freed up when middle income people move into the new ones lowers demand for the old and makes it available and more affordable.)
Although I never voted for him, I respected what he did and how he handled himself after his presidency.
That was until he published his book: Palestine Peace Not Apartheid.
Carter wrote that Palestinians and Arabs in general should end suicide bombings and other acts of terrorism, when international laws and the ultimate goals of the roadmap are accepted by Israel.
After that he was just another anti-Semite to me.
@DB Carter did deregulate transportation and that was a great thing. Full credit there.
And appointed Paul Volcker to deal with inflation. And Carter may have been the last president to actually care about the deficit. The Iranian debacle did him in. I knew several retired Green Berets who could pass on the SOF gossip. They all agreed that it was a major f*ckup from the beginning.
My first vote was in 1980 when he was running for re-election. I think my roommates were split with votes, one went for Anderson, one or two for Carter, the rest for Reagan.
I ponder that when he was first elected in '76 -- I was too young to vote then (but I could drive!) -- Biden was more than halfway through his first Senate term. Why are they both still around!
I hope Carter finds serenity in Hospice.
I regret voting for Carter in 1976, but doubt that Ford would have been any better. I had never previously voted for a Republican.
Carter seemed like a disaster at the time, but he was better than Obama and Biden by a long shot. Where he really failed was as an ex-President sticking his nose into foreign policy.
He took the Christian Forgiveness thing towards our foreign enemies too far. He did not seem forgiving of conservatives.
By most measures, he has had a very successful life. I hope that his final days are peaceful.
Morientis nihil nisi bonum.
Leave it to pagans like Inga to tell Christians whom they should be emulating.
Carter served with honor in the USN, and he served with dignity as president. I wish the biggest family scandal with presidents these days was something on the level of Billy Beer. His work with and promotion of Habitat has been admirable.
If only he had stuck to that, especially after 2000. As former President Carter aged, he let slip more and more glimpses of a bitter old man. Sharing his box at the 2004 convention with Michael Moore was classless. I used to say that Jimmy Carter was far too decent of a man to ever be a successful president. He's proved me wrong more than once over the past 20 years or so.
In deference to our host's request I will say only RIP to the late President Carter, for whose opponent I happily cast my first vote. I will save my comments about the man for the cruelly neutral post to come.
In deference to our host's request I will say only RIP to the late President Carter, for whose opponent I happily cast my first vote. I will save my comments about the man for the cruelly neutral post to come.
I was involved with the highway serving the Carter Center in Atlanta. His staff gave me a preview tour. it included his office which displayed some furniture he had made...
James Carter was a heck of a good woodworker.
Inga- You bought all the lies that the left sold you about Trump and Russia. All lies. Buying and selling lies - Just because you hate someone - does that make you a good Christian?
A man with good intentions and poor judgment, operating above his pay grade in the office he was elected. That was evident then and in retrospect. On a forward basis, good luck, good fortune, and good health.
Personal point of irritation... he was NOT an engineer.
As a teen during Carter's single term, I'd like to thank him for showing me the way to the Republican party.
@Jim — Carter was the last Democratic candidate for president for whom I voted, in 1976. I recall I was disappointed he was nominated, I was supporting Udall. Pretty funny in hindsight.
>>Morientis nihil nisi bonum.
Not sure I can parse/decline that first word. I would be more inclined to say (de) morituro nil nisi bonum. Like the gladiatorial morituri te salutamus.
--gpm
The best thing Carter did (I think)
was his association with
Habitat for Humanity.
Christ Church routinely builds Habitat homes in Charlotte.
Reddington: what makes you think he lives in a modest house? He and his wife had some pretty posh threads at the Carter Center, which defended despots and domestic terrorists, and also mowed down some of the most historic sites in Atlanta to satisfy his ego. He was hateful, egotistical, and unpleasant, and had he been elected for a second term, lower-middle-class Americans would have hive collapsed decades earlier.
Habitat for Humanity is indeed a nice nonprofit but no better than thousands run by the Catholic Church, evangelicals, Jews ... and other presidents.
I have met him several times and dined with his wife, who is obsessed with North Korea, and not in a bad way. They both struck me as Maoists. Many of the 900 murdered in Jonestown might be here today, or at least have died in America of old age instead of being murdered by a terrorist supported by both Harvey Milk and Carter, are the people we should be remembered today. As I said, there is little love lost for him here in Georgia, quite curiously, across all party lines.
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