"To the five police officers that murdered my son, you also disgraced your own families when you did this. I’m going to pray for you and your families, because at the end of the day, this shouldn’t have happened. This just shouldn’t have happened. We want justice for my son, justice for my son.”
Tony Romanucci, a lawyer for Mr. Nichols’s family, said the family is asking the Memphis Police Department to disband the specialized unit that was formed to help halt a surge of violence in the city. “The intent of the SCORPION unit has now been corrupted,” he said....
The release of the video is scheduled for sometime after 6 p.m. Central time on Friday.... Officials and the Nichols family pleaded with the public not to let outrage over what they see on the video spill into unrest....
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How about no protest at all, for a good start.
THIS is what happens, when you let Racist(!) whites become cops!!
ONLY People of Color should be allowed to become Police Officers. NO WHITES!!!!
Would be interesting if violence and rioting follows from 5 black cops beating a black suspect to death.
Memphis has one of the highest homicide rates of US cities. A shortage of police officers.
This is the future of big city policing.
I'm sure it is horrific. I don't know why people feel a need to protest - from what I'm seeing, the city officials agree that this was a terrible act and plan to prosecute the five police officers. To quote Hillary Clinton, not ironically, but in full seriousness, 'What Difference, At This Point, Does it Make?'
Will smashing someone's windows, burning someone's car, or looting someone's property change anything?
This is terrible.
Who hired those five police officers?
Who trained those five police officers?
Who did those five police officers report to?
Who knew that those "officers" were one match short of a conflagration? ... an explosion? ... murder?
Who knew?
Many knew ...
Many always know.
Is the report I heard that all the police officers are black correct?
Even though these 5 officers were the same race as the decedent and even though they were all promptly fired and criminally charged, there is likely going to be destructive, potentially violent protests. I don't think that helps.
His family and officials have called for peaceful protest
That'll work.
The police chief in Tennessee is a Georgia native I believe. She tried to do the right thing in a case while she was still new in the police force here in Georgia. As a consequence she lost her job until an independent investigation cleared her name and she came back to the force and went on to bigger and better things.
The story was on the morning news radio.
I have written prior that meeting a cop for ANY reason could well be the last mistake you make. Any reason at all for cops are VERY dangerous beasts and the slightest resistance can and will make them go insane. With a badge and a gun. My own deflection for decades and that to 5 countries where I have lived? When dealing with ANY cop humor is the deal. Admit whatever the F happened did happen and ask for ticket. Politely. All the while keeping hands in the clear. I have had multiple police refuse to give me ticket once I made them laugh and feel that I am no threat and even then I remain in danger until copper leaves and this poor boy learned that the hard way.
50 shades of Black progress in South Africa, Kenya, Somalia, America, etc., maybe.
Diversity,Inequity,Exclusion (DIE) doctrine. #HateLovesAbortion
I'm not going to watch the video of a young man being murdered. No, thank you.
Tony Romanucci, a lawyer for Mr. Nichols’s family, said the family is asking the Memphis Police Department to disband the specialized unit that was formed to help halt a surge of violence in the city. “The intent of the SCORPION unit has now been corrupted,” he said.
Now do the FBI.
Every Black over the age of 13 should be given an opportunity to earn $100 by attending a 30-minute class about their behavior around police officers.
The class's essential teachings:
* Do not resist arrest.
* Do not try to run away from a police encounter.
It's obvious that too many Blacks do not understand those concepts.
The money would be well spent and can be considered to be part of their "reparations" for slavery and Jim Crow.
This will be a good opportunity to loot stores.
" I don't know why people feel a need to protest - from what I'm seeing, the city officials agree that this was a terrible act and plan to prosecute the five police officers. To quote Hillary Clinton, not ironically, but in full seriousness, 'What Difference, At This Point, Does it Make?'"
People protest the man killed yesterday, the man sure to be killed tomorrow, and the system that ensures that there's always another one coming.
For those thinking they're clever to point out that the cops are black, you are not. It's always been about policing, not white police officers. Even the sayings you hate -- defund the police, acab. Good Cop Bad Cop by Ice Cube, 1991. It's about the knee of the state on people's necks.
I love the antifa exposés coming out of this. We're getting photos, names, backgrounds, work histories, and friend and family network affiliations.
I'm really hoping more soldiers make the trek from faraway to get shackled in Atlanta, even if they are bailed out. This information about them is beyond useful for many.
"Will smashing someone's windows, burning someone's car, or looting someone's property change anything?"
Well, some people will get 75 inch TVs. So that's a change.
The net change will likely be much greater, and in a negative direction, than such wondrous acts as removing Aunt Jemima from syrup bottles.
I hope I'm wrong. But releasing this on Friday evening is, IMO, dangerous timing.
His family and officials have called for peaceful protest
That is obviously a dog-whistle for violent insurrection. At least it is when Trump says it...
So we're off only another "Gosh, this police shooting/beating was so unjustifed, its horrible"
Fine. What about Ashli Babbit?
Never ceases to amaze me how the elephant in the room never gets talked about, which is precisely whose ideas are running these cities. Partisan politics aside, when was the last time you saw any big city politician take responsibility for the local PD's actions? They're supposed to oversee the police; do they actually ever bother to do that?
It's like the police are this vast separate conspiracy that the politicians can't do anything about, besides wring their hands. You have police brutality going on? Why, we have no responsibility whatsoever for that... Never mind decades of supposed oversight by those self-same politicians. Look at Minneapolis and the Diamond killing; zero responsibility taken for having leveraged a high-profile, underqualified minority onto the force, or the aftermath of having done that. Likewise, with Chauvin; nobody ever seems to want to mention that he was acting within the training and instruction he'd received as a police officer, with full concurrency of the politicians overseeing the department he worked for over the course of decades. Minneapolis hasn't had a Republican elected mayor or majority city council since fer-f*cking-ever, but somehow, the police department that city government has oversight on is the fault of Republicans? WTF?
Same-same here with this deal in Memphis; how long have the cops been behaving like that? This isn't a one-off aberration, either; Memphis PD is bad enough that I was required to give people safety briefings about avoiding contact with them when we did training at Fort Campbell and allowed people to take weekends off. That was in the mid-2000s, so it ain't like this is news to anyone. Memphis natives I've known and interacted with all told me to be damn sure I didn't go into the wrong neighborhoods, and to avoid all contact with Memphis PD for any reason whatsoever. I heard that from white and black locals, both.
So, they finally screwed up bad enough to make the national and international news? And, it's suddenly a f*cking problem? Where was the attention when this problem was presenting itself, before? Because, I guarantee you that this case wasn't the first one where a pack of cops in Memphis did some feral youth-style wilding of their own.
Christ, one of the girls I had working for me who was from around there in Tennessee told me about having been on a bachelorette party in Memphis when things went seriously wrong, and a bunch of the women involved got the ever-loving snot beaten out of them by the cops. That was mostly black-on-black, as well, from the way she described it. Her take on the Memphis PD was that they were just another street gang, but with better lawyers.
For those thinking they're clever to point out that the cops are black, you are not. It's always been about policing, not white police officers.
While there's modicum of truth to that, you know damn good and well people on your side of the political spectrum are/were just itching for another race riot. Which is why these protests will fizzle after a day or so.
Unlike those associated with St. George of Fentanyl.
Mike Sylwester said:
"Every Black over the age of 13 should be given an opportunity to earn $100 by attending a 30-minute class about their behavior around police officers.
The class's essential teachings:
* Do not resist arrest.
* Do not try to run away from a police encounter.
It's obvious that too many Blacks do not understand those concepts.
The money would be well spent and can be considered to be part of their "reparations" for slavery and Jim Crow."
Yeah, well here's the problem: This was other blacks doing the beating, wearing cop uniforms. And, there was apparently damn little cause, from what I can tell.
The root problem isn't in the cops or the black community, really. It's in that gray area where social conduct meets institution: If you examine just why most whites don't have "cop problems" it's because they don't give the cops problems. Similarly, when most blacks give cops problems, then every interaction becomes a situation ripe with potential to go wrong. I've had actual serving black cops tell me things that would have a Grand Dragon of the KKK hearing that and responding with "Hey, now... You can't be saying things like that..." Black Chicago cops were some of the worst, most hateful anti-black racists I've ever encountered in my life. Some of them were advocates of lining up bulldozers in front of armed men, and plowing most of Southside Chicago into the lake, and then shooting anybody that got past the dozers... I kid you not.
So... How'd it get this bad? Self-reinforcing circle of self-fulfilled prophecy. The young black males all project that the cops are bad people and want to beat them down; the cops experience all that, and almost inevitably turn into the very thing a lot of them joined the force to fix. They hate young black males more than they hate white racists, a lot of them... And, why? Because they look at those thug-like cretins and see the living expression and justification for all the racist crap those white racists threw at them.
It's a weird little self-referential circle, and it ain't just racist. We give badges and the right to arrest to a lot of people in this country who have zero business having them. Look at that guy who got shot in his trailer in South Carolina back in December; zero cause for that, but the SWAT team lit his ass up for coming to the door with the very camera they threw into his trailer. White-on-white violence, there. Same with the guy who got shot in that hotel hallway in Mesa, Arizona. Again, no element of racism.
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The actual problem here is twofold: Society is conditioning cops to do these things, and cops are conditioning society to react to them the way they are. It's circular; police bad conduct leads young black males to distrust the police and act aggressively towards them, and that reinforces with the police that young black males are dangerous. Even other black cops know this, and react accordingly. Go look up the stats on who usually initiates violence against cops; it ain't old white guys doing it. It's almost to the point that if you ever ask the question of "Who killed that cop...?", and you don't know? Pick the black guy in the lineup; he's gonna "be the guy" in way too many cases. It's statistically aberrant, but there you are: FBI stats prove out the proposition that the young black male has an exponentially higher chance of being a threat to any cop's life than not. And, all the cops know this.
So, whose fault is it? Everybody's. You start from a premise that it's possible to keep a guy off the force because he tested "too high", and then train them for sh*t? Guess what? You're going to get sh*t cops. You have to almost have a 4-year degree and a lot of practical experience to be a beat cop in a lot of European countries. Here? LOL... The standards are pretty damn low. There's also a lot more accountability; in Austria, you draw your pistol? You'd better have a damn good reason; Austrian cops are expected to have shot someone with proper cause, every time they draw down. For them, the pistol isn't something they use as a threat display; you make them draw? You're getting shot.
Danny 12
"For those thinking they're clever to point out that the cops are black, you are not. It's always been about policing, not white police officers. Even the sayings you hate -- defund the police, acab. Good Cop Bad Cop by Ice Cube, 1991. It's about the knee of the state on people's necks."
Good to know.
So the protests about George Floyd, Trayvon Martin, Mike Brown, Brianna Taylor et al were all really just libertarians protesting state police power. Huh. And for some reason I got the idea that it was about race. Silly me.
Now do January 6.
There's a case going on in Grand Rapids, white cop, black victim. Guy had some warrants out, some other bad stuff, pulled over for plate not matching car. Fought with the cop, got shot.
One black attorney said the quiet part out loud. Their culture needs to learn a better way of dealing with police.
See the Rayshard Brooks case in Atlanta. Guy was having a lengthy, civilized conversation with the cops about his driving and, in half a second just blew up. Eventually got shot.
Should have released it on Monday.
These cops have been arrested, charged with murder and will face Justice but what I find so strange about this is how the body cam video has been teased for two days almost as if someone wants to generate anti police violence.
How about mostly peaceful protests? Can they be fiery?.
its about destroying this country, full stop, if you didn't get that three years ago I can't help you, now murder is what was done to ashley babbitt and rosalynn boyland, but they don't count,
Original Mike said...
Is the report I heard that all the police officers are black correct?
That is correct, they are black. All 5 officers were around 6'0" at 200+ lbs. Tyre Nichols was 6'2" and weighed in at 150 lbs. This is beyond abusive.
Police follow the law. Police don't have to talk to you calmly while you try to kill them. If Police kill someone with malice they should be charged.
Why did five black police officers feel it necessary to beat a black man evading them after a traffic stop?
I have heard no reason given or discussed. And on one level it doesn't make a difference. They should not have beaten a man to death.
But,
I know from personal experience that every police officer feels a traffic stop is dangerous. And they don't like to be insulted, or have to chase someone - which creates yet another dangerous situation. And when an individual resists arrest, policemen are likely to respond with overwhelming force to control the situation as quickly as possible, Just as Colin Powell responded to Sadam.
And, police sometimes take just into their own hands, based on a belief that the prosecutors and courts will not, and cannot punish all crimes. And who can say this assumption is wrong, particularly today. I suspect policemen are particularly likely to do so when the suspect represents a threat to the community, particularly communities the police live in.
And in that sense, the root causes of these policemen's actions do matter to all of us. Not as a reason to justify their individual behavior, but for us as members of a larger society to think through what type of culture we wishes to live in.
All police feel safer, when they are respected and feared. So at the margin, these things happen, even though we aspire to be a nation of laws, not men. If we want to live in safe and law abiding communities, we have to address officer safety and respect. Otherwise we will have neither.
The idea that the world must stop and everyone must be outrageously outraged over some random dude because he's black is the height of narcissism.
Imagine thinking the world revolves around your particular group.
Damn. That was vicious.
Tick Tock said:
"Why did five black police officers feel it necessary to beat a black man evading them after a traffic stop?"
Regardless of what race they are, cops are following the same behavioral patterns that wolves are following when it comes to prey animals: What runs, gets pursued. What ambles along confidently? Gets left the hell alone, a lot of the time. Mainly because that's aberrant behavior that the wolf pack can't process; why isn't this animal running from us? Oh; probably diseased or it knows something we don't.
Cops are people, and people are just like any other pursuit-driven hunter: Once you start fleeing, you're indicating you're worth following. Cops in situations like these are doing exactly what all the rest of us would be doing in their shoes: If it runs, it dies. If it runs and resists, it dies even harder.
You have to be really and truly oblivious not to figure this crap out early on, and I don't know why there are so many young black males that can't process the facts of what they're presenting to cops by their behavior. It's not like they don't do the same damn thing in sports and in any fighting they do; it's like they can't conceive of the cops as being human like they are, and have no idea how their actions present to those humans-with-badges. Which, funnily enough, is proven out right here in this incident: Young black male encounters cops, fails to comprehend what his behavior is going to trigger, and bang, zoom... We have us an incident.
Which smacks of blaming the victim, but... The victim, in this case, is a part of the problem. It may well be, however, that he didn't even grasp he was dealing with cops, being as they were in unmarked cars and not in complete police uniform.
Black cops are usually less tolerant of the crap delivered by violators. Most of them have families and children and they know that bad actors are a threat to their own lives.
Chris Rock has good advice.
This is probably enough to get him canceled now.
How does a 29 year old get punched a couple times and then drop dead? The autopsy is going to reveal tremendous drug abuse and some sort of preexisting condition.
OK, let's say police violence is a problem. But if it is perpetrated in Dem cities, where Dem officials run the force and make policy, where Dem voters elect the same Dem officials time after time, where Dems then complain about the results of Dem policies but keep electing the same Dems to do the same thing, what exactly is the issue?
(I actually don't accept the premise, terrible as this incident appears to be. Polices and their results have in fact changed quite a bit since the 1970s.)
narciso @5:49pm… damn straight! This country is being fucked sideways by the Demonicrats.
"For those thinking they're clever to point out that the cops are black, you are not.
Clever? Just wanted to know if me and my ancestors were going to be blamed for this one.
Actually, I just wanted to know if the report I heard was accurate. Thank you, NorthOfTheOneOhOne.
boatbuilder said...
"So the protests about George Floyd, Trayvon Martin, Mike Brown, Brianna Taylor et al were all really just libertarians protesting state police power. Huh. And for some reason I got the idea that it was about race. Silly me.
Now do January 6."
Well, why don't you. Because this moment feels like an opportunity for an alliance. Yes, these are protests about state police power. Go watch the video. Watch when two cops are holding the guy down and a third walks over and kicks him in the head twice (slipping first, and then repositioning to get good footing). Or when they sit him up and another cop bashes him in the back of the head with a nightstick. Or when they stand him up and yet another punches him in the side of the head five times, arms cuffed behind his back, out on his feet.
Watch it, and tell me what it says to you about state police power. If you too are concerned about the knee of the state on necks, there's common cause to find.
Just freakin awful. All of it. We're so broken as a country right now.
The black cops were all fat and had trouble catching him when he ran. They were mightily pissed and mightily winded. They took it out on him. They will go down.
Sebastian said:
"OK, let's say police violence is a problem. But if it is perpetrated in Dem cities, where Dem officials run the force and make policy, where Dem voters elect the same Dem officials time after time, where Dems then complain about the results of Dem policies but keep electing the same Dems to do the same thing, what exactly is the issue?"
Since this has happened far too often for it to be a statistical anomaly, a one-off event...?
You might want to ask yourself if this isn't happening to their plan.
Alternatively, you might want to question the premise that these people are either competent or capable of learning from experience.
Biggest problem I see in the entire culture right now is that there's an utter lack of accountability and consequence across a very broad swathe of society. All these wunnerful, wunnerful technocratic genius types who keep telling us that they're gonna fix everything, and that they know best? Do they? Are they "fixing" things, or making them worse?
And, more importantly, why the hell isn't the electorate holding them accountable? How do these cities keep returning incompetents to office, year after year, election after election? Could it be that there's deep-rooted corruption in the election process, perhaps? Why are the cities simultaneously "strongholds of the Democratic Party", yet almost always at the same time perfect exemplars of their demonstrated incompetence and corruption, when it comes to actual, y'know... Governance?
Yet, somehow, time after time in these cases, they manage to deflect it and make it all about the other party, making them out to be "at fault", when the Democrats have dominated the city governance in these communities for decade after decade.
Whose fault is that? Introduce yourself to him, in the mirror when you next shave. It's you, me, all of us. Very soon, we're going to have to make a choice: Do we want this to continue?
what all the rest of us would be doing in their shoes: If it runs, it dies.
Disagree. I'm not going to beat a man to death while he's lying helpless on the ground, and I doubt that you or anyone else here would either. This was sadism by people who like having power over other people. They're so absurdly entitled and out of control that they did all this while wearing cameras.
Besides which, they're supposed to be trained to be *better* at handling a dangerous situation than the general public; that's why we trust them with guns.
Certainly, there are times when police genuinely fear for their safety and legitimately need to use deadly force. But none of them here were scared; none of them drew a gun. They were angry and felt disrespected, and so they kicked the crap out of him.
I know some Memphis cops, including the son of a friend, and just hope it's cold enough to send people home early and there's a minimum of violence.
I've only seen the last scene(?), shot from a Skycop camera, which are everywhere. (Also a blurry bodycam segment.) They clearly had trouble at first, but the excessive force didn't take long to emerge, and by the end they were simply whaling on the guy because they could.
I-55 has been blocked at the river--apparently the authorities have not shown themselves.
5 cops seems like a lot. And paramedics arrive with nothing happening, apparently. Georgetown Law has a program, ABLE: Active Bystandership for Law Enforcement. Grew out of consent decree program at New Orleans. Idea to prepare officers to successfully intervene to prevent harm and create a LE culture that supports peer intervention. Sounds like Memphis needs a consent decree for LE reform. Bigly.
Somehow whitey's gonna get the blame for this.
I have found one bodycam and the streetpole cam footage.
The bodycam has all the initial encounter where he apparently resists arrest and flees.
At secondary location, bodycam either falls off or is removed for part of that.
Wouldn't all have bodycams?
It was totally irresponsible for them to release the video to the public. That will only make things worse by fanning the flames of indignation and increasing the violence of the protests. This needs to be handled through the court system and not by mob violence. People need to let the legal system do its job and only protest if justice isn't done. The odds are very good that they're going to throw the book at these bad cops. They've already been fired and they've been officially arrested and charged with extremely serious crimes.
There have been almost twice as many murders in Atlanta each year since George Floyd died May 2020 as there were in the years before. These murders are concentrated in the black community. In 2021 there were 139 murders in the first ten months of the year. Only 5 were in the white community. It's time to stop and think but Dems simply cannot. All they can think is that it cannot be that they are as wrong about police reform as a doubling the murder rate which is concentrated in the black community makes them sound And this video makes it plain that the police have not been reformed into a kinder, gentler bunch either. The black community will vote for the Dems anyway. I have no idea what to say beyond that. Maybe the poet Longfellow got it when he said: "There is poor blind Samson in this land."
I watched the videos, not every single minute, but I didn't see anything that would have resulted in the young man's death. I saw him resisting arrest and managing to escape and run away. I am always shocked by people who get into battles and run from police. This was the same, but apparently Black men have reasons. Running away seemed sort of senseless considering he left his car and would have been traced through his car registration, unless the car was stolen? What was the point? What was his reason? Mostly I saw a bunch of out of shape police hanging around trying to catch their breath and recuperate.
I've seen so many videos of people getting beat up in the subway and lunchrooms and classrooms etc., and get worse beat downs than this. Here's a story and video of a young Jewish guy getting kicked and hit with sticks on the streets of NY, for example. Looks worse to me. (https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/jewish-man-brutally-beaten-in-manhattans-diamond-district/)
Maybe I missed the worst part of Trye's beating? All the warnings to not watch because it is "too horrible," seems like a manipulation to keep people from actually looking and wondering what was the actual cause of death?
Cause of death still hasn't been determined or released.
From https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/26/us/what-we-know-tyre-nichols-death/index.html
"Memphis Police Chief Cerelyn “CJ” Davis told CNN’s Don Lemon on Friday:
“We’ve looked at cameras, we’ve looked at body-worn cameras, even if something occurred prior to this stop, we’ve been unable to substantiate that at this time,” Davis said. “It doesn’t mean that something didn’t happen, but there is no proof.”
Loudogblog said, "It was totally irresponsible for them to release the video to the public. That will only make things worse by fanning the flames of indignation and increasing the violence of the protests. This needs to be handled through the court system and not by mob violence. People need to let the legal system do its job and only protest if justice isn't done. The odds are very good that they're going to throw the book at these bad cops. They've already been fired and they've been officially arrested and charged with extremely serious crimes."
Never assign to irresponsibility what can be assigned to malice. Assume intent. Assume malice. Assume bad faith. It makes so much more sense when you do for everything that happens in this age of rage.
" I saw him resisting arrest and managing to escape and run away."
Was he resisting arrest? Was he being arrested? On what charge, resisting arrest?
"Maybe I missed the worst part of Trye's beating?"
Held down while a 200+ pound man kicked him in the head three times? Stood up, held with his hands behind his back, while a 200 pound trained man punches him in the side of the head 3 times?
"Cause of death still hasn't been determined or released."
You're aware that the five cops were charged with murder, yes? I guess that's the cause of death.
"Maybe I missed the worst part of Trye's beating?
Yes, you did.
The multiple running kicks to the face while he was pinned to the ground, the roundhouse right while he was held standing up, and the billy club (the big one) while he was on his knees just to name a few - yeah, you missed the worst part.
Those kicks to the head were brutal and may well have been the fatal blows.
Who you gonna believe, the cameras or your ideological preconceptions?
What I saw was vicious assault by five 'elite' SCORPION squad members on a guy who had already been beaten and pepper-sprayed before the SkyCop segment at the end.
Daniel12 said...
" I saw him resisting arrest and managing to escape and run away."
Was he resisting arrest? Was he being arrested? On what charge, resisting arrest?
Traffic stops, like domestic disputes, are dangerous for the cops as they have no warning before hand. If this was just a traffic stop, why did he run and resist? Did he have drugs in the car ? We may find out at the trial but meanwhile the usual lefties and racebaiters are busy.
"Who you gonna believe, the cameras or your ideological preconceptions?"
They've done a bit of both: those who watched and recognize it's wrong are on this thread and the other saying "black cops" and "street fight" and "black on black crime". It's a nice balancing act between the thin blue line and white supremacy.
"Traffic stops, like domestic disputes, are dangerous for the cops as they have no warning before hand. If this was just a traffic stop, why did he run and resist? Did he have drugs in the car ? We may find out at the trial but meanwhile the usual lefties and racebaiters are busy."
What the fuck is wrong with you? You are defending cops fired and charged with murder. They released the body cams. This roving jack booted swat team pulled him over for a ticketable offense, and approached the car with guns drawn screaming from the start. They ripped him out and beat him and pepper sprayed him for two minutes BEFORE he ran. FOR WHAT?? You can't do that to people for a motor vehicle infraction, however scared for their lives this armed to the teeth and vested paramilitary unit felt for no discernable reason. They did not act lawfully from the start, and he obviously felt he needed to run for his life, WHICH HE DID because they were already beating him and then they beat him to death.
You need to ask yourself why you are knee jerk defending cops that the POLICE UNIONS refuse to defend, that their supervisors refuse to defend, that every police trainer and expert castigates. Why you are primarily concerned with the feelings of safety of heavily armed and out of control cops who literally beat a man to death.
Why was the police force's paramilitary unit doing roving traffic enforcement with guns drawn? Is this East Germany or the Soviet Union? That is fascist and cannot happen in this country.
People raising Jan 6 and Ashley Babbot who just cannot give a fuck that a man was pulled from his car and beaten to death for sport or annoyance by agents of the state. Who are over on the rabidly racist other thread talking about genetics and crime statistics and black cops and this being a street fight and black people just love resisting arrest and race race race race race race race race race race race race race race.
Do you have a problem with a secret service agent shooting a woman coming through a just broken window at the head of a mob into an area with a whole bunch of congresspeople?
Well then you should have a problem with a man driving to his mom's house who was pulled from his car and beaten to death for nothing at all by the local government's military unit.
See also, Kelly Thomas, Fullerton CA.
Didn't make national news for some reason.
Will smashing someone's windows, burning someone's car, or looting someone's property change anything?
New sneakers, cartons of cigs, plasma tv, Xboxes, ... yeah, changes a lot.
Do you have a problem with a secret service agent shooting a woman coming through a just broken window at the head of a mob into an area with a whole bunch of congresspeople?
When you can't even get the basic facts correct, why should the rest of us pay any attention to your temper tantrum?
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