September 14, 2022
"Now Mr. Durham appears to be winding down his three-year inquiry without anything close to the results Mr. Trump was seeking."
"The grand jury that Mr. Durham has recently used to hear evidence has expired, and while he could convene another, there are currently no plans to do so, three people familiar with the matter said.
Mr. Durham and his team are working to complete a final report by the end of the year, they said, and one of the lead prosecutors on his team is leaving for a job with a prominent law firm.
Over the course of his inquiry, Mr. Durham has developed cases against two people accused of lying to the F.B.I. in relation to outside efforts to investigate purported Trump-Russia ties, but he has not charged any conspiracy or put any high-level officials on trial. The recent developments suggest that the chances of any more indictments are remote...."
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Oh well, I guess GTMO still has room for other criminals. All the comments for the last three years about how the Durham investigation would have hundreds of Democrats behind bars was a bit of wishful thinking.
Government bureaucrat doesn't do a good job of investigating other government bureaucrats.
Absolutely shocking.
Just add Durham to the list of corrupt traitors in Washington DC.
I think the phrase you are looking for is "Good Grief, Charlie Brown!"
Durham's role was to tie up evidence that "was part of an ongoing investigation"
Republicans keep counting on the Rule of Law to save them, oblivious that the Rule of Law is dead. It's like playing into a rigged poker game to win your rent money back. They will let you win a few bets to keep you on the hook and cool the Mark so you don't werewolf. But it's a no win scenario.
Republicans promised we would only use violence as a last resort. And now as they cross off civil remedies and approach the end of the list, they search for any alternative, no matter how implausible, to avoid using violence as a last resort
I understand the reluctance. Problem is, there is a limited window of time where violence can still be effective and that window is closing.
And Sundance up in house treehouse called it. It was all a bull shit homey pokey dance. The DOJ, FBI and CIA are truly the bad guys.
Three years??? Do people like Durham do any actual work, or do they just sit around collecting paychecks?
It's such an obvious crooked hoax, with lies and collusion between the FBI and a political campaign this is all he accomplished in three years in three years?
At least Biden knows how to raid a political opponents home in just a few days.
Somebody pin Durham down and shave his goatee.
I have studied and written a lot about RussiaGate.
I think that some officials in the FBI Counter-Intelligence Division began investigating Donald Trump in the late 1990s about his relations with Russian Intelligence and/or organized crime.
This investigation got a new impetus in 2012 when Trump made a stink about President Obama's birth certificate. Supposedly, he did so at the prompting of Russian Intelligence.
The investigation got yet another impetus after he declared his candidacy for the US Presidency in June 2015.
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Some FBI Counter-Intelligence officials -- most notoriously Peter Stzok -- believed sincerely that Trump was compromised by and was colluding with Russian Intelligence.
In principle, such FBI officials were just doing their job. Some FBI officials do have the job of investigating evidence that Americans are secret agents of foreign intelligence agencies.
However, those counter-intelligence officials should be controlled by the FBI Director. Unfortunately, James Comey did not control them wisely. Apparently, he thought the suspicions about Trump were at least plausible -- probably even true.
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This became a messy situation, because various other actors -- e.g. Hillary Clinton, Fusion GPS, a group of computer experts investigating Trump Tower and Alfa Bank -- conducted their own investigations. There were a lot of entanglements.
John Durham should not focus on indicting people. Rather, he should focus on explaining to the public what happened.
Many people sincerely believed that Trump was colluding with Russian Intelligence. Their belief was not fundamentally criminal. Rather, their belief was merely mistaken or foolish or reckless.
Perhaps their zealotry motivated them to violate some rules. However, such violations were not the major problem in this situation. Rather, Trump and some of his supporters were treated very unfairly.
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I would like Durham to tell the public that, indeed, the FBI began investigating Trump in the 1990s and continued through much of his Presidency. That investigation went too far. It should have stopped when he was elected to be the US President.
Another farce.
Mr. Durham has developed cases against two people accused of lying to the F.B.I. in relation to outside efforts to investigate purported Trump-Russia ties, but he has not charged any conspiracy or put any high-level officials on trial.
NYT version, FBI was lied to?
Wasn't Clinesmith an FBI lawyer who lied to a FISA court?
So, he was just freelancing, not part of a larger conspiracy?
Now Clinesmith is back to practicing law.
Nothing to see here.
This is a disgrace.
The Clinton campaign bought and paid for foreign disinformation, laundered it through the DoJ, and made sure it was leaked to sympathetic media.
For no one involved to face serious consequences would be – it's almost as if we bugged out of Afghanistan and no one behind the debacle resigned or got fired.
In other news, a bunch of unpatriotic partisan agitators are undermining the public's faith in our government.
I wish Durham would explain to the public how the existence of the FBI investigation of Donald Trump was revealed to the public.
FBI Counter-Intelligence indeed could investigate Trump on suspicion of colluding with Russian Intelligence. However, the very existence of such an investigation was supposed to remain secret.
Who revealed that investigation to the public? For a long time, I thought the culprit was Senator Harry Reid, but eventually I realized I was wrong about that. Reid himself apparently did not know that such an investigation existed, although he received special briefings from the FBI. Reid even wrote a public letter to the FBI demanding that such an investigation be initiated.
I have come to think that FBI Director James Comey himself decided to leak the existence of the investigation. I suspect that Comey accomplished the leak through James Wolfe, the Director of Security for the United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI).
Permitted by Comey, Wolfe leaked to journalist Louise Mensch that the FBI had obtained a FISA warrant against Trump on suspicion of colluding with Russian Intelligence. Mensch reported that story on her Heat Street website on November 7, 2016 -- the day before Election Day.
I suspect that Comey permitted this leak because he really did believe that a secret agent of Russian Intelligence might become the US President. If not for Comey, I suspect, the FBI investigation might have remained secret -- as it was supposed to remain.
Durham should investigate and report how the existence of the FBI's FISA investigation of Trump was leaked to Mensch and thus revealed to the public.
Igor Danchenko comes up for trial in October. No one is selling popcorn.
I'll be honest. I was never exactly a Q true-believer, but I did sincerely expect that Durham, Huber, etc. were going to expose the corruption in the FBI and other agencies. I even believed there were aspects of the Mueller investigation that were a sting operation. I was looking forward to many FBI agents and federal govt employees being indicted. I thought that Russiagate was going to backfire. Peter Strzok would have his grin wiped off his face. The public would learn the truth about Hillary's campaign, and the Steele dossier. Huber, Durham and similar investigators were working slowly, methodically...
Nope. Nothing. Nada. What a disappointment. What a farce.
I really should have learned my lesson by now. I need to become more cynical.
"This is the way the world ends,
Not with a bang, but a whimper."
Mr. Durham sees what is happening to anybody else "helping" Donald Trump and has decided he doesn't want to end up in one of Joe Biden's fucking gulags.
Can you blame the guy?
Full on Nazi's are running the United States. Best shut down and get the fuck out of Dodge.
Mr. Durham sees what is happening to anybody else "helping" Donald Trump and has decided he doesn't want to end up in one of Joe Biden's fucking gulags.
Can you blame the guy?
Full on Nazi's are running the United States. Best shut down and get the fuck out of Dodge.
I said years ago that Durham's job was simple: drag the process out long enough for the guilty parties to arrange their defenses and sanitize their records. He's an apparatchik and understood that.
The Organs took a few hits but nothing critical, thanks in part to such dedicated timeservers as Durham.
Alexisa is correct: rule of law has left the building.
Russia Collusion Truther and Hillary/FBI Hoax Dossier Dead Ender Inga: "
Oh well, I guess GTMO still has room for other criminals. All the comments for the last three years about how the Durham investigation would have hundreds of Democrats behind bars was a bit of wishful thinking."
LOL
Of course, no one was predicting any such thing.
What we did predict is precisely what has occurred: Barr, who desperately wants to salvage the institutions of the DOJ and FBI but "knows" the "excesses" need to be "cleaned up", shut down the completely corrupted Weissman/Mueller/Hillary "investigation" and set Durham to task to expose a bit more of the corruption but to bury the rest.
And here we are.
More has been exposed. Some corrupt actions of some of the corrupt players has been exposed, with the involved players allowed to walk away well compensated.
For instance, we now know that it wasnt just Hillary and the DNC paying a foreign agent and russians for lies to fill the hoax dossier (which Inga to this very day still thinks is "real"), but the FBI itself was also paying the same russian liar for the same lies!
And using our tax dollars to do it!
What a perfectly perfect New Soviet Democratical thing to do! Collude with russians to generate lies about Trump!
Congratulations Inga!
Next up: how the New Soviet Democraticals literally funded the ChiCom bio warfare lab to create the virus used to attack the world!
All on top of paying billions upon billions to help the mad mullahs of Iran to accelerate the creation of an Islamic Supremacist nuclear arsenal!
The selling out of America to ALL of its enemies......which explains why they have to stop Trump at all costs.
"Merely reckless" is more an indictment than an exculpation.
As many have said before, Durham turned out to be just the final phase of the coverup.
Dunham was always a fake. Appointed by AG Barr to fool Trump and MAGA into thinking he was doing something to investigate Hillary and FBI lies and crimes in pushing TrumpRussiaGate.
Barr appointed him Special Counsel because he was afraid Trump would declassify a lot of Mueller/FBI documents and release them. Now, Dunham has done his job. Played out the string and covered it all up.
"Last Refuge" has tons of stuff on what a phoney Dunham was from the word go. But you only have to look at AG Barr attacking Trump for wanting a "Master" to review the FBI seized Trump documents, to know Dunham/Barr were working for the establishment. And part of "get trump".
Not surprised after the Clinesmith muff and Strok whiff. He only charged Danchenco for half the lies Durham documented. “Lying to the FBI” is one of those charges they reserve for more Republican chumps.
Well at least he didn’t leak.
Durham was the slo-mo coverup.
It’s been obvious for quite a while.
All the comments for the last 'x' years about how 'x, y and z' would have 'Donald Trump' behind bars was a bit of wishful thinking.
You have absolutely no self-awareness, do you?
If Durham directly accused high officials of the FBI and Justice Department with misconduct, he would have been destroyed by the same tactics used against Trump and the people surrounding him. The best Durham could do was to lay out a roadmap for how high officials colluded with Democratic officials and Russians to attempt to overthrow Trump’s election. Durham did the work that journalists refused to do because they were a party to the collusion, and he did it far more effectively because he had the power of subpoena.
AA had a post on 5/14/19 when Barr appointment reported in NYT. In the comments, she had this exchange with commenter Mark:
MARK: 3 investigations about the 1 investigation. Didn't we just hear a year of gnashing of teeth about Mueller wasting money? Now you want to waste more by throwing more good money after bad?
AA:
I think that was about how long it took and how much was done considering how little they were finding. Why didn't they stop and tell us there was no collusion really early on? Aside from the money, we needed that information. We were idiotically distracted — or was that the point? — about something that didn't happen. And it was expensive.
It's like complaining about how much a war is costing, which is something you tend to do when the war is also not worth fighting. In WWII, I don't think people say that cost too much money.
It's the waste of money that's objectionable.
A proper investigation into the origin of the Russia investigation could be about saving money by improving the quality of judgment into when and how to investigate. And the people who start and run investigations should be accountable and should have some pressure not to be abusive and wasteful!
I guess a lot rides on the report Dunham will be giving Garland.
Durham
Well, at least we got three years of Durham scowling as if he meant to get to the bottom of things. Take names, kick asses. Lock'em up. etc.
It comforted so many of us....suckers.
Maybe the FBI officials behind the Russia Collusion Hoax were exercising their basic civil rights?
I agree with Inga, but I strongly suspect that we'd disagree on why.
Anyone who had been paying the least bit of attention to the workings of the deep state had to know that nothing was going to come from this investigation. It was a complete waste of time and money, but then that's what the government does best.
However, those counter-intelligence officials should be controlled by the FBI Director. Unfortunately, James Comey did not control them wisely. Apparently, he thought the suspicions about Trump were at least plausible -- probably even true.
The FBI leadership was auditioning for the HRC presidency that they believed was inevitable.
Durham can see quite clearly what happens to people who make trouble for the DOJ and the FBI.
John Durham should not focus on indicting people. Rather, he should focus on explaining to the public what happened.
Don't bother. Lee Smith has already explained what happened. First, it was his book, "The Plot Against the President."
More recently, he has followed up with "The permanent coup."
This farce has still time to run but, in the end, the economy will collapse because fools are running it.
I'm going to wait and see what the Durham report actually says rather than take the NYT version of the report at face value.
That being the case, here's my guess:
Durham will confirm that the conspiracy to take down Trump was exactly as we here said it was.
He just wont get around to holding anyone responsible for it.
The only explanation needed is found in an article The Hill published in 2016. They found that 97% of DOJ employee political donations went to Hillary. The FBI is under the umbrella of the DOJ so that number includes them. You can't obtain that level of partisanship without corrupt partisan hiring practices. The DOJ/FBI are the enforcement arm of the Democrat party. They aren't the "bravest and the finest" but are well-armed amoral terrorists who engage in violence on behalf of their political masters. Saying that the corruption is limited to leadership is a bad joke. The rank and file demonstrate their lack of integrity or principles by their failure to stand up to the leadership.
If Republicans obtain a majority in both houses then they must be deny the DOJ funding until Dems come to the table and agree to the dismantling of both the DOJ and the FBI and creation of a new law enforcement apparatus with checks on hiring practices and against corruption.
I fear we have lost the Republic and are subject to totalitarianism.
I love the sound of the Know Nothings whining in the morning.
Never about results always about the "investigation" walls are closing in now umhummm! witch hunt right. Fake news everybody gets paid!
So why is Durham putting this out now? Why not wait until after the election, when--if it is a "winding down" without big criminal charges--it pisses some people off but it goes away.
Perhaps the raid on Mar-A-lago and the appointment of the Special Master accelerated things. "We're all done here--time to move on. People did some stuff that was not good, but no big deal. Pay no attention to all that sordid stuff that the stupid raid exposed
Modified limited hangout?
Who the hell knows? I gave up on Durham a long time ago--I'm inclined to believe that his whole purpose was to keep Trump from going public with what he has. But I will readily admit that I am just spitballing.
I used to believe that if you did something wrong and the Feds were after you, you were in big trouble. I now believe that to be true in the absolute opposite sense from what I believed before.
Rabel said...
"Durham can see quite clearly what happens to people who make trouble for the DOJ and the FBI."
Besides which. He has to get paid.
DNC leads, and the DOJ, FBI, and others follow, an unprecedented cover-up of affirmative actions taken in collusion with foreign and domestic special and peculiar interests to undermine Constitutional authority. Well, the Twilight Amendment has been overturned, the nations is still viable, and, hopefully, the mischief will be aborted in short order.
But, you know, this isn't the real John Durham. That is still coming. And it is going to get them, those bastards. I think we've got them right where we want them. I can't wait for Freud's real juice.
Blogger Mutaman said...
I love the sound of the Know Nothings whining in the morning.
No surprise because you are one of them.
Plausible but not probable. Probable is the George "fentanyl" Floyd progressive condition that preceded the restraint. Probable is a girl aborted when Antifa surrounded and assaulted a private vehicle in the wake of nationwide insurrection and intimidation campaigns. Probable is progressive prices enabled, forced by single/central/monopolistic solutions. Probable is that in a civilized society, a human life conceived by choice, evolves as a baby, adolescent, teen, adult, and senior, till Her Choice do us part. Probable is the progress of sustained witch hunts and warlock trials that deny human and civil rights under an ethical umbrella.
For each person who thinks, “huh, I guess there were no crimes committed” there are probably a hundred thinking, “damn, they got away with it again.” And, of course, there are a few like Inga who think, “hurray, they got away with it again!”
We will not have a healthy society until our government bureaucracy is cleaned up, whether with or without accountability.
When the desire for convictions at all costs meets the desire to crush or cripple a political outsider, is there much room left for good faith suspicions?
Having power lets one indulge in all manner of fantasies and regard them as sensible and well-founded.
I am old enough to remember the Scooter Libby trial, where the prosecution said he lied to the FBI. An interview of the jury foreman after the verdict documented that "we could not convict Bush, so we did the next best thing."
Dunham's trial of Sussman showed he was guilty but DC partisan jurors let him go anyway because they have an agenda. When all government trials have DC juries the deep government wins.
Dunham's job was to record everything, in the face of opposition and adversity. It is obvious that the deep state will not allow conviction, Clinesmith who lied on the FISA submittal is now practicing law unencumbered by his falsehood. A corporal who did the same would be in Leavenworth.
Dunham's job was to record all the crimes of Comey, Strozhole, McCabe, and the CIA. They may not go to court but if Dunham does his job they will live in infamy in his records.
Perhaps Dunham will do nothing.
A drop of justice
Man who 'shot first' at Rittenhouse during Kenosha riot charged with 7 felonies
Q collective left moaning.
Mike Sylwester said...
I have studied and written a lot about RussiaGate.
I think that some officials in the FBI Counter-Intelligence Division began investigating Donald Trump in the late 1990s about his relations with Russian Intelligence and/or organized crime.
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Suppose you flesh out that lazy "supposedly" and tell us "by whom"? And "you can see it all here, in these documents".
Is there ANY substantiated evidence that Trump cooperated with Soviet intelligence....ever?
If so, why didn't Mueller , Schiff or the others hounding him as a Russian tool offer any concrete examples.
Mike Sylwester said...
I have studied and written a lot about RussiaGate.
I think that some officials in the FBI Counter-Intelligence Division began investigating Donald Trump in the late 1990s about his relations with Russian Intelligence and/or organized crime.
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Suppose you flesh out that lazy "supposedly" and tell us "by whom"? And "you can see it all here, in these documents".
Is there ANY substantiated evidence that Trump cooperated with Soviet intelligence....ever?
If so, why didn't Mueller , Schiff or the others hounding him as a Russian tool offer any concrete examples.
Mike Sylwester said...
I have studied and written a lot about RussiaGate.
I think that some officials in the FBI Counter-Intelligence Division began investigating Donald Trump in the late 1990s about his relations with Russian Intelligence and/or organized crime.
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Suppose you flesh out that lazy "supposedly" and tell us "by whom"? And "you can see it all here, in these documents".
Is there ANY substantiated evidence that Trump cooperated with Soviet intelligence....ever?
If so, why didn't Mueller , Schiff or the others hounding him as a Russian tool offer any concrete examples.
His job to provide cover for the corrupt FBI/DOJ has been accomplished.
The real reason [John Durham] was appointed is that Donald Trump’s political con require[d] the promise of total vindication . . . . For a time, Durham provided that hope for Trump backers.
But now, as Trump moves on to other ploys, the Durham probe has served its purpose, even though it has produced no major convictions or epiphanies [with only three cases investigated and two actually tried over three years].
From the start, the probe was a red herring. The public already knew that the FBI had investigated the Trump campaign’s contacts with Russian agents, and the reasons for suspicion were not mysterious. Campaign manager Paul Manafort was notoriously tied to the Kremlin and passed information to a . . . Russian agent . . . .
Taxpayer cash was doled out to the tune of approximately $6 million with no results of any consequence.
“John Durham should not focus on indicting people. Rather, he should focus on explaining to the public what happened.”
Durham’s first big problem is that the statute of limitations has run on most of RussiaGate. The bureaucracy has able to protect itself long enough to run out the clock on most of their perfidy and malfeasance. With the exception of Clinesmith, they walk almost up to the line, without personally crossing it, and with all of them doing that, they were able to protect themselves as a group, which protected them individually. Until Barr became AG, they were able to utilize the LawFareGroup’s misinterpretation of the Obstruction statute to prevent themselves from being investigated - since any investigation of them would be obstructing their investigation of Trump and all of his closest allys. What they needed then was a RICO investigation of the FBI’s Counterintelligence Division (CD), DOJ’s National Security Division, and the parts of the CIA that worked with them. If Durham had gotten going early enough, that was in his skill set. But they needed the OIG report, based on their investigation, that had been held up by the Mueller investigation (finally terminated by Barr becoming AG), etc. so, what I think that Durham is doing is exposing the shenanigans that the bureaucrats in these organizations utilized to delay and obstruct accountability. Not enough. But all we are going to get.
As a first aside, as most here know, it turns out that Igor Danchenko, Christopher Steele’s primary subsource was hired by the FBI as a Confidential Human Source a month after Steele was fired by the FBI. That was fall of 2016. He was kept paid by them (FBI CD) for roughly 3 1/2 years, being terminated right before the 2020 election. Relevant here, that probably means that Durham couldn’t interview him until then. Neither could OIG. Interestingly, he was being investigated (by FBI CD) for trying to obtain classified documents and sell them to Russian Intelligence, from 2009 to 2011. They (CD) terminated the investigation, when they thought that he had left the country. He was back, by June 2016, when he sat around vodka bottles with Russian friends, in Georgetown, making up the stories that went into the Steele Dossier. It turns out though that he had worked for the Brookings Institute during the time that he was trying to obtain classified information to sell to Russian Intelligence. Steele, too, worked for Brookings at some point, and was hired through Clinton attorneys at Elias to create the Steele Dossier. Brookings was run, during the 2016 election by Strob Talbots and Clinton stalwart Cody Shearer. Why is this relevant here? One reason is that Brookings funds the LawFare Group, which, among other things, developed the radical misinterpretation of the Obstruction statute that was used against Trump, Gen Flynn, etc, and to keep the Mueller investigation open and untouched (and Danchenko uninterviewed). Turns out that the DOJ is again using LawFare to create novel legal theories by grossly misinterpreting statutes, in the MAL raid, and it’s head, Benjamin Whitte, is again an author on the LawFare document explaining their creative lawyering, as he had for the Obstruction misinterpretation used in RussiaGate/Mueller investigations.
Some FBI Counter-Intelligence officials suspected honestly that Donald Trump was compromised and therefore was controlled by Russian Intelligence.
One former such official, Peter Strzok, has published a book about his own suspicion -- titled Compromised: Counterintelligence and the Threat of Donald J. Trump. Anybody can buy and read his book and consider his arguments.
Strzok was doing his FBI job, along with his FBI Counter-Intelligence colleagues.
Also, he and his colleagues were keeping their investigation secret. They did not want the public to know anything at all about it.
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This investigation was controlled -- or was supposed to be controlled -- by FBI Director James Comey.
Unfortunately, Comey hated Trump, and so Comey could not control the investigation wisely.
Comey should have terminated the investigation when Trump won the Presidential election.
Comey should have said to his Counter-Intelligence office:
"OK, show me the evidence you have accumulated. Well, it's not enough, and now he is the US President. Your investigation is terminated."
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Instead (I think), Comey himself arranged to leak the existence of the FBI's FISA investigation to the public. He wanted to warn the public that President-Elect Trump might be a secret agent of Russian Intelligence.
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John Durham apparently views his role primarily as indicting various people -- non-FBI people -- for various process crimes. For example, they allegedly lied to the FBI about some details.
The fundamental problem, however, was that some FBI officials made bad decisions that eventually caused enormous political trouble.
Their attitude toward Donald Trump was very different than their attitude toward Hillary Clinton. They welcomed any evidence that he was compromised by Russian Intelligence; they rejected any evidence that she was compromised.
They kept "beating their dead horse" that Trump might be a secret agent of Russian Intelligence. They never obtained convincing evidence, but they never gave up trying -- even after he was elected to become the US President.
Even after Trump actually did become the US President, they continued.
They were like Ahab trying to catch the White Whale.
The entire FBI Counter-Intelligence staff should have been re-assigned and replaced. In particular, all the Trump-haters should have been re-assigned elsewhere, and at least a few Trump-supporters should have been placed into that Counter-Intelligence staff.
@Mike Sylwester “ Many people sincerely believed that Trump was colluding with Russian Intelligence. Their belief was not fundamentally criminal. Rather, their belief was merely mistaken or foolish or reckless.
Perhaps their zealotry motivated them to violate some rules. However, such violations were not the major problem in this situation. Rather, Trump and some of his supporters were treated very unfairly.”
That is of course their story, and slick DC operators, such as they, know the term “plausible deniability” by heart, but that story strains credulity, especially given the pattern of behavior at these agencies, where they relentlessly forged ahead despite the patent falsity of the collusion claims, and in the face of these claims being proved wrong, and discovered as sourced from a fabricated farrago of nonsense concocted by an opposing campaign, etc.
But regardless of whether Brennan, Comey, Ohr, McCabe, et al are indicted and put in prison where they belong, the scales, as it were, have fallen from the eyes of many people—those who used to believe that we lived in an orderly Constitutional republic, governed by reliable and clear laws, impartially applied by apolitical bureaucrats. Many people now realize that the persecution of Trump and anyone associated with him—the criminalization of dissent, the purges, the two minute hate, the party line—is like a cross between Lavrenty Beria and Moon over Parador. And sadly for our country, which made it two and a half centuries before it had the misfortune to run into Joseph Robinette Biden (and his crime family) and the establishment of the first national religion of the woke gospel, there’s probably no going back to the halcyon days before woke zealots, a la Lenin, seized all levers of power. It was a good run—a great run—but it’s over. A nation cannot be well led by a class that hates it and its citizens, and it cannot long survive one half attempting to outlaw the other. One might suspect that the the great and good of the woke gentry class would realize the consequences of their constant escalation and ratcheting, but one would not have been paying attention: the Dem-media-[quasi]academia-activist-nonprofit complex is much worse than the Bourbons: they’ve learned nothing, but never knew anything to forget.
The FBI caught Steele primary subsource Igor Danchenko in a number of lies.
What did the FBI do in response?
It signed Danchenko up as a paid FBI confidential human source.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/victoria-taft/2022/09/14/the-fbi-hired-trump-pee-tape-liar-as-an-informant-to-hide-him-from-us-n1629401
From my link above:
"During those riots, Ziminski could be seen firing off his gun just a few minutes before Rittenhouse shot and killed Joseph Rosenbaum, which was ruled to have been in self-defense, as Rittenhouse feared for his life. Ziminski wasn't charged for his role in that riot for over 5 months, and it was unlikely that local DA Michael Gravely would have tried him, the Kenosha County Eye reports, were it not for community backlash.
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Hey Trump obsessed liar Gadfly - what say you on white left antifa thug - getting some justice for this:
"Lawmakers and pundits roundly labeled Rittenhouse a white supremacist and slandered him, though he went on to be cleared of charges.
The new charges shred by the pair are Felony Armed Robbery, Felony Armed Burglary, Felony False Imprisonment, Felony Intimidation of Victim, Felony ID Theft, and Misdemeanor Battery. Independently, Ziminski caught a charge of Felony Bail-Jumping, while his wife was charged with Probation Hold. The couple is set to appear in court on Wednesday.
Ziminski was out on bond, pending trial for the charges of "Arson (Felony), Disorderly Conduct / Use of a Dangerous Weapon (Misdemeanor), and Obstructing an officer for his role in the rioting and lighting a trailer on fire," reports the local Kenosha County Eye."
Mike Sylwester--Strock didn't sincerely believe anything. He texted his mistress Page that "there's no 'there' there." And he knew more about it than anybody.
He is and was a criminal actor.
@entropic,
That was eloquently and even beautifully put. I've come to the same, sad conclusions. There may be some residuals worth saving, and small blessings to be grateful for. These will probably be local and under the radar (to the degree we can avoid "being made to care"). But the Republic as we once knew it is truly over. It had a good run. There is no going back to an earlier, golden era. I've finally begun to accept that. Hopefully this country can prove me wrong, but I'm not expecting anything. And I've even started considering what country to move to if things become unbearable.
The basic problem is that prosecutors and investigators need a lot of discretion to do their jobs. Just making a mistake, investigating rumors that turn out to be false, is not a crime. There’s only a crime if the investigation was conducted in pure bad faith, knowing that it had no legitimate basis, and solely for improper purposes. Proving that beyond a reasonable doubt is very hard, especially when the alternative explanations of incompetence and bureaucratic inertia are readily available.
Probably the real answer is that a conspiracy to manipulate the FBI and the DOJ against the President, with leaders in both agencies trying to help, is not any crime. You may be able to get this one or that one for lying in a deposition, but that's it.
Perhaps his report will provide some clarity, which is maybe all we could hope for. Perhaps not.
I suspect that Comey permitted this leak because he really did believe that a secret agent of Russian Intelligence might become the US President. If not for Comey, I suspect, the FBI investigation might have remained secret -- as it was supposed to remain.
The issue under that theory then is why didn't Comey brief the Gang of 8? He kept mum on investigation.
The obvious answer is that he feared Republicans would defend Trump. That sort of thinking leads you to treat one entire political party as the enemy.
It leads you to target allies of the your target as targets (i.e. Flynn).
That's how banana republics form.
gadfly said,
"Taxpayer cash was doled out to the tune of approximately $6 million with no results of any consequence."
This is indeed funny. You're a democrat. A biden voter and a former public sector employee. You don't care anything about taxpayer money. You voted for inflation.
This is what we are dealing with....
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After learning that a DC jury will not convict a Democrat of anything illegal done to get rid of Trump, what would be the point in additional indictments? If the report details what was done and who did it that may me sufficient. That could serve as a guide for whom to fire and what departments to dismantle when a, hopefully, Republican, administration takes over in 2025.
Democrats in DC have established the same justice system they used in the Jim Crow south. Justice is what they say it is. Unfortunately, their is no equivalent of the federal system to overcome them since they are the federal system. It may require action by the Supreme Court.
Durham's investigation served to demonstrate that, with the exception of a rump faction actually committed to equal justice under law, the DOJ, FBI, and intelligence services of our country are permeated with Machiavellian seekers after power at any price, and their accomplices.
That's a pretty good ROI for $6M. And a tragedy.
effinayright at 9:20 PM
Is there ANY substantiated evidence that Trump cooperated with Soviet intelligence....ever?
I do not know of any convincing evidence.
Is there ANY substantiated evidence that Trump cooperated with Soviet intelligence....ever?
Perhaps not Russian intelligence, but oligarchs. When Trump supported investigation of collusion and corruption of Biden, Kiev oligarchs, and their Russian counterparts, surely aided and abetted the pre-coup EU-certified government in Kiev, which secured the lives and welfare of all Ukrainians, and consequently normalized a stable environment for industry and energy transport.
There are not enough lulz for this moment.
Remember when week after week, conservatives here claimed Durham was going to deliver?
Given the amount of predictions made in the comments section that never come true it should have been expected. It's one giant comment section of Dunning Kruger examples here.
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