From "As She-Hulk, Tatiana Maslany Is Beautiful When She’s Angry/The 'Orphan Black' actor described the giant, green protagonist of 'She-Hulk: Attorney at Law' as 'weirdly, the closest thing to my own experience I’ve done ever'" (NYT).
Attorney at Law! So... a lawyer gets very very angry and sprouts extra-large breasts. It's just so embarrassingly dumb. The fantasy is that anger makes a woman especially attractive. I've never watched any Hulk shows or movies, so I'm just going to guess what Hulks — He-Hulks and She-Hulks get angry about: crime? Superhero stories are all about fighting crime, right? Anyway, I love this idea that when women become angrily powerful we become more centered in our "loins."
I tried watching the trailer, but it was too hard to get a look at the transformation, so I'm not going to embed it. For some weird reason, the audio was "Happy Together" by The Turtles. That's the polar opposite of anger. The skies'll be blue.
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Hollyweird is so devoid of inspiration that they keep churning out this nerd chum.
We don’t spend ANY time or money watching this crap.
When I first saw the trailer, I thought is was a joke.
I've generally liked the Marvel movies - at least through Avengers: End Game. This one seems particularly awful. (Side Note: I think Mark Ruffalo is an awful actor).
Richarda the loin-hearted.
It's designed to appeal to nerdy men, not women.
When I first saw the trailer, I thought is was a joke.
And you were right.
In the comics I believe she can change back and forth at will, and chooses to stay in the She-Hulk form because she is super hot that way. The character exists because boys who read comics like cheesecake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNHNCx9hcrE
Attorney at Law! So... a lawyer gets very very angry and sprouts extra-large breasts. It's just so embarrassingly dumb.
Actually, if I’m on the jury it might help.
The fantasy is that anger makes a woman especially attractive.
It’s not the anger part.
If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts. If you have the law on your side, pound the law. If you have neither the facts nor the law, stick out your tits and suck in your stomach.
The trailer seems to be turning everyone off from the idea of watching it. The two (recent) Hulk movies were such disasters, many don’t talk about them. So not a bad idea to steer clear of them.
So fucking tired of woke entertainment.
And I won't give communist Ruffalo a goddamn dime...
Hillarywoodland works over-time at big dumb down of a nation.
Bruce Banner, mild mannered reporter, angered, diverges to become raging lawyer Jessica Hulk, social justice advocate, files class action lawsuits with plausible cause.
Theories about the Hulk's anger (and yes, there are theories) are a bit more nuanced than just positing a generalized hatred of crime.
https://screenrant.com/hulk-angry-because-reason-banner-smart-watcher-intelligent/#:~:text=%232%20sees%20the%20Watcher%20observe,to%20escape%2C%20yet%20forever%20imprisoned.
One popular theory proposes that "the reason for the Hulk's rage is the fact Bruce Banner's persona lies buried within him, desperate to communicate, eager to escape, yet forever imprisoned."
I'm guessing Ann and the other commenters aren't lifelong Marvel Comics consumers. Having read most of the original Marvel comics starting with issue(s) #1, I have to say that some of the movies and series have been delightful. Others were pretty awful. However, it does require a total suspension of reality to appreciate and/or enjoy this form of entertainment. It's almost like you're expecting cartoon characters to look and act like normal people. It's the genre, folks.
I saw Maslany frequently when she was filming in my neighborhood a few years ago. One time I said good morning in passing before I processed who she was. She recognized me and said it first on our next encounter...prolly the Canadian talking.
Ah the old accidental transfusion! Can't tell you how many times this has caused me problems! Oh wait. That doesn't happen, not even in cartoon universes.
For some weird reason, the audio was "Happy Together" by The Turtles. That's the polar opposite of anger.
It's a pretty tired gimmick. The mismatched action v. music.
One of the many things I learned from Star Trek is that green chicks are hot.
She-Hulk the comic book character in the 90s and 00s was known for being big, green and sexy. The comic was humorous, sarcastic and the character often broke the 4th wall to talk to the reader, like Deadpool. Part of the joke was making fun of the readers who bought the comic for the sexy giantess.
I'm not sure how that will work in the show. It could seem derivative of Ryan Reynolds's portrayal of Deadpool.
Hopefully she-hunk with big bazoongas can get an abortion.
"Having read most of the original Marvel comics starting with issue(s) #1, I have to say that some of the movies and series have been delightful. Others were pretty awful. However, it does require a total suspension of reality to appreciate and/or enjoy this form of entertainment."
I've never seen a Marvel-based movie. I've seen the first few Batman movies and the original Superman with Christopher Reeve. I think that is the sum total of the superhero movies I've seen. I have absolutely zero interest.
Oh, no. Wait! I saw the first Iron Man movie. Just because I like Robert Downey Jr. It was okay, but I'd never watch another superhero movie. I'm not that interested in watching ANY movie these days or even finishing watching movies I've started and think are just great but I'll have to come back to later. I'm currently a third of the way through "Mon Oncle."
Yeah, but I bet the sex is terrific
The cynic in me is asking whether the writers are being covertly sarcastic and anti-woke. Could not PMS and hormones account for a woman's changes in breast size and anger? Who needs a transfusion when she "gets that way every month"?
I've quit Marvel altogether. I watched the new Dr. Strange on the small screen and don't want to bother with it again. Sadly, I also watched the various mini-series' on Disney+, what a waste of several hours those were. Just a bunch of woke BS.
BTW, Hulks turn into Hulks from anger generally, that's the whole schtick, not just of Chick-Hulk.
Waiting for Marvel Gone with the Wind
She-Hulk might have gigantic breasts, but she'll never be as big a p---y as Ruffalo is.
What can Disney do at this point? Might as well go hyper woke from every conceivable angle with the franchise they paid for with a pile as tall as Space Mountain. It's an easier route than trying to pitch Brokeback Mountain Spin and Marty or something...
It's a sit com from Disney. Assume full 30 mins, no commercials? Great title.
Disney+ offered me six months 'free'. I pay the sales tax and they get to count me as part of their subscriber base. Surprisingly, I took it...
Superhero stories are all about fighting crime, right?
They were, but it wasn't long before extraterrestrial and supernatural menaces became a thing, too. I doubt we'll see much of that, though. The Critical Drinker has already pegged pegged the show as Ally McBeal with superheroes. I think he's on target.
"She-Hulk the comic book character in the 90s and 00s was known for being big, green and sexy."
"Yeah, but I bet the sex is terrific"
Death by snu snu!
I read Charles Soule's semi-recent run on She Hulk, and it was a lot of fun. The potential for amusing legal stories in a world filled with super heroes is high. Tatiana Maslany was magnificent in the first season and a bit of Orphan Black which started out as a highly engaging, reverse-Bechdel-test-failing :-), examination of the many varieties of female agency and then lost its way (anybody want to argue I should check out season 3, change my mind...). So I'm cautiously optimistic, but I'm way behind in my Marvel watching. They seem to have also lost their way somewhat after the end of what I call "The Starkiad", that run of 20 or so movies that all revolve, to some extent, around Iron Man's moral journey.
"The cynic in me is asking whether the writers are being covertly sarcastic and anti-woke. Could not PMS and hormones account for a woman's changes in breast size and anger? Who needs a transfusion when she "gets that way every month"? "
Excellent theory!
It works whether it's true or not.
Truthy.
Could not PMS and hormones account for a woman's changes in breast size and anger?
Breast size, pregnancy. Anger, not pregnancy. Also, a masculinist/feminist seeking women... girls with "benefits".
She looks like Fiona, the female ogre, from Shrek.
I just watched the first episode. It’s actually funny and is a lot better than you would think given the subject matter. I didn’t feel like there was anything gratuitous about she hulks appearance. Her chest looks proportional to her body.
I probably won't watch this, unless I'm bored on an airplane, but I thought the actress was very fun, very watchable in Orphan Black.
khematite said...
One popular theory proposes that "the reason for the Hulk's rage is the fact Bruce Banner's persona lies buried within him, desperate to communicate, eager to escape, yet forever imprisoned."
Oh brother! Back in the good old days he'd show up all big and green, everyone would scream, and the Army would start lobbing 155 Howitzer shells at him. Also, he wasn't really green Bruce Banner back then. He was sort of a Hyde to Banner's Jekyll. Later on he devolved into being an almost mindless brute; with not only the Army chasing him, but organizations like Hydra and AIM trying to get ahold of him as well. All perfectly valid reasons to be full of rage. But that was back in the days when comics were fun entertainment and not "literature" like they try to be now.
"I have absolutely zero interest."
Cool.
It's mostly meant for us boys anyway.
I feel the same way about My Dinner With Andre.
The special effects look so cheap and laughable in the trailer. Disney isn't even bothering to make good movies/shows any more, it's just churning out new garbage as fast as possible.
does she-hulk still need to get angry ?
normal angry? or
feminist angry?
At least one of hulks will have a penis now.
There is definitely a reason why a good number of women in my law school class got breast implants prior to graduation.
Doesn’t compare to Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law!
JSM
Probably won't watch it but I'm will to beat whatever clothes she has on when she changes magically expand to cover everything necessary just like they do for other Hulks. At least in one of the MCU movies Ruffalo was naked after changing back to Banner.
Balfegor said...I probably won't watch this, unless I'm bored on an airplane, but I thought the actress was very fun, very watchable in Orphan Black.
The actress is great--she's been on the Comedy Bang Bang podcast a few times and is always very funny.
The show looks bad, certainly if the trailer is representative.
Not promising: SheHulk screenshot, opening scene
Hollyweird is so devoid of inspiration that they keep churning out this nerd chum.
It's designed to appeal to nerdy men, not women.
No, and no.
it's designed to appeal to left wing activist who aren't going to go see it anyway.
The M "She" U is about taking anything that's males nd making it female, with a "strong empowered woman" who's better than any man
Because allowing men to have male things that they like just violates the core of every SJW's heart
I gave up on the MCU a long time ago. I'm hoping this is just another financial fail, because that's what SJW crap always deserves
(All gender swap héros are crap. But the problem is that the female heroes they tried to invent new were such horrid garbage that no one watched them. So they canablisize male heroes instead)
Quien es mas macho - ella o el?
It's hilarious how Hollywood is so proud of She-Hulk who can feel anger. THEY ALL FEEL ANGER. Every time. When Hollywood wants a strong woman, it's the same template. Have her kick ass. Female superheroes are boring.
The reason Hollywood makes so many of these idiotic superhero movies is because they make big money in China. That's it.
I've never watched any Hulk shows or movies, so I'm just going to guess what Hulks — He-Hulks and She-Hulks get angry about: crime? Superhero stories are all about fighting crime, right?
ha ha ha
Here's my review of
The Incredible Hulk (2008)
Both Hulk movies kinda suck but this one is better than Ang Lee's flop. Norton is terrific. What a great actor. This is almost a sweet little love story. With a damn rogue general father-in-law subplot. I swear, the Marvel universe has more rogue generals than any other comic book corporation. I'm sure General Stryker and this commander ("Thunderbolt" Ross) are fighting for jurisdiction over the Hulk.
Stryker: "He's obviously a mutant, he's a big green mutant."
Thunderbolt: "He's not a mutant, he's a big green science project. And he's mine!"
Stryker: "He's a mutant! I want to kill the mutant!"
Thunderbolt: "Stay out of my comic book, Stryker! I'm the rogue general around here."
Anyway, this rogue general is bad. Rogue generals are always bad. Stay disciplined, soldier. And Hulk, again, is some kinda good. That's the basic problem with Hulk. He's not a hero, he's never going to be a hero, and yet they keep trying to make a hero out of the guy. Which is retarded. Hulk is a Jekyll and Hyde story, a werewolf story. I got a monster inside me! You should hate Hulk, he should be a horrible monster. And it should be a tragedy for Bruce Banner. But it's rarely like that. Hulk is always fighting bank robbers or some damn thing. The comic book even put him in a super-hero organization. "Somebody give Banner a hot foot, we need the Hulk!" The only Hulk story I ever liked was when the Batman kicked the crap out of him. That was awesome.
You know when DC comics and Marvel were negotiating for the Batman-Hulk comic book, the Marvel guys were aghast when they found out who was going to get his ass kicked.
"What do you mean, Batman wins? Hulk is more powerful than Superman."
"You want Batman? Batman wins."
"But, but, but..."
"You want Batman? Batman wins."
"It makes no narrative sense!"
"You want Batman? Batman wins."
And Batman kicks his ass, Batman kicks his ass.
The other problem with Hulk, aside from the fact that he can't even beat up Batman, is his CGI status. If you want a really big Hulk, a hulking Hulk, you can't put green makeup on some bodybuilder. You need CGI. And I'm sorry, but CGI still sucks. Hulk is an angry cartoon.
In the climax of this movie, we have two damn computer graphic images slugging it out and I'm yawning like a madman. That's the problem with putting a real actor in this movie. When Norton disappears in the third act, the drama goes with him. So Batman kicks Hulk's ass and Bruce Banner does too.
The Incredible Bruce Banner and the Not-So-Cool CGI Hulk is what they should have called it.
Why does her hair straighten? I just don't get how that ties in.
I haven't decided to be a woman, so can't interpret the sentence, "The weight of She-Hulk brings her down into her loins in a different way." Does that mean that her center-of-gravity is lower, or is it more of a metaphorical statement? Women generally have a lower center-of-gravity, and if anything, all that upper body meat and enhanced bosom would raise her center-of-gravity.
I am sure that it is social "injustice" that makes the she-Hulk angry, not something like killing her puppy and stealing her cherry Mustang Boss 429.
"Nothing outside the State." - Mussolini. To include movies. But we are the fascists.
Or as some wag on the internet put it...
Green Karen
“I do it all the time. When I’m cat-called in the street, when incompetent men explain my own area of expertise to me, I do it pretty much every day because if I don’t I’ll get called ’emotional, or difficult’ or might just literally get murdered.” - She Hulk
I am kind of old now, but I remember when going to the movies with a girl was kind of a prelude to a little romp, gave you something to talk about for a little while over a nightcap, but this seems more like a way to get the guy to hate women, and the woman to hate men.
She-Hulk? To whom does this appeal??
My re-collection is that movie goers are mostly white male 14 year olds, and they invite their 14 year old girlfriends. I think we used to call it a date. I can't imagine a girl enjoying any element of the movie. She might see it as a negative reflection upon her.
they take pot shots at Captain America (how many times has he saved the world) and tony stark/bruce wayne et al,
Gag me with a spoon.
I have massive comic book movie fatigue.
When I was growing up comic books were considered low brow and for idiot children who couldn’t read.
I view the movies as a step down.
Althouse said: "So... a lawyer gets very very angry and sprouts extra-large breasts."
Well that's how it always worked for me--very convenient when making closing arguments to a mostly-male jury.
The Hulk was Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde reimagined if it was all an accident and the doctor had no control over the transformation and no control over what the Hulk would do. That gave the interest, the two sides of the character of physically weak but mentally and morally strong Dr. Banner and physically strong but intellectually weak and morally ambiguous Hulk.
I see others picked up on the Jekyll/Hyde, but the whole drama is the ambiguity. If there is no tension caused by the loss of control *and what could happen* then there really is no story. A controlled Hulk is just another superstrong comic book character. A Hercules without his 12 Labors. Stories need tension to keep interest.
Tatiana Maslany was magnificent in the first season and a bit of Orphan Black which started out as a highly engaging, reverse-Bechdel-test-failing :-), examination of the many varieties of female agency and then lost its way (anybody want to argue I should check out season 3, change my mind...).
Yes, the show was pretty good in the beginning. Then it lost the narrative thread or arc or throughline. They lost track of what they were supposed to be doing. I remember a lot of talk at the time about how it was a pathbreaking all-woman show (except for her gay male friend). It was shallow chatter then and talk like that is still shallow chatter.
There's a notion that girls are going to adopt all these woman superheroes as role models, but there are so many role models out there that it's hard to imagine that She-Hulk is going to be a heroine for very many girls. Girls aren't even likely to go to the movie. It's more for guys who go to all the Marvel movies. But Hollywood needs to give the public a justification for turning this stuff out.
I've learned to enjoy the Marvel movies as light comedy with a strong dose of farcical slap stick. The movies are a bit like the Marx Brothers movies, but less witty and slower moving.
The one exception among the Marvel movies has been "Black Panther" which is, of course, tediously serious.
"The fantasy is that anger makes a woman especially attractive"
Men have been telling women "you're cute when you get angry" for the entirety of my life.
She gets angry and her breasts balloon? Tell me this wasn't written by a pimply teenage boy.
Here is Batman vs. the Hulk
If you are wondering how the hell Batman beat the Hulk, he gassed his ass.
And the Hulk held his breath!
That damn green monster was too much of a thinker, in my opinion.
Anyway, Batman did a karate kick in the Hulk's stomach -- or lungs, I guess -- and the Hulk's mouth popped right up and he breathed in the gas and that was it, lights out.
Batman wins! Batman wins!
I still remember that shit.
Also, Superman fought Muhammad Ali which was even more ridiculous.
The best super-hero movie, without a doubt...
The Dark Knight.
#2, of course, is The Redneck Avengers
"Protect the Red, White, and Blue and even some non-Americans, too."
Does she get aggressive camel toe?
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