I'm not surprised that a search extends into a woman's most intimate space — how could searches be effective if the woman's closet were off limits? — but I recognize that this is something that hits onlookers hard. It makes the government seem more brutal if you picture its agents rooting around in the lady's underwear drawer.
Bork kept talking about originalist jurisprudence, neutral principles of Constitutional Reasoning, the bankruptcy of the theory of penumbral emanations... while Biden talked about cops in our bedrooms!
And now it's FBI agents! In Melania's wardrobe!
The feds instructed Trump’s representatives to switch off the security cameras but they refused.
Unlike Biden's cops in the bedroom, it's not just a vivid mental image of something we're made to fear could happen. It really happened, and there will be video. Perhaps the video will make the FBI agents seem respectful and professional and it will calm us. Maybe our imagination makes it worse. FBI agents! In Melania's wardrobe!
A legal source said that the boxes had been packed up by the General Services Administration and shipped to Mar-a-Lago when Trump left office in January 2020. Trump’s attorneys, led by Evan Corcoran, had been cooperating fully with federal authorities on the return of the documents to the National Archives and Records Administration, according to sources. In May, Corcoran granted access into Mar-a-Lago’s windowless storage room to FBI agents who spent several hours searching through the boxes. Trump stopped by the basement to say hello at one point, says someone who was there.
What was the sense of the raid? Has anyone in power come forward to explain to us, the People? I don't think so. We are left to accept the arrogant We have full access to everything. We can go everywhere.
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We are living in the Soviet Union now. Progressives wanted a police state...and now we have one. Enjoy the downfall.
"We have full access to everything. We can go everywhere."
So will those 90,000 or so new IRS agents.
The consensus comment is that the FBI agents were sniffing Melanie’s underwear and stealing pairs for Biden, Garland and Wray. The FBI agents had backpacks when they entered the premises.
The FBI needs to be broken up.
Is it really possible that Wray took this on without even consulting Garland or the Bidenistas? Or even someone below Wray in the Florida office? And the one judge who gave approval was the guy who was on Epstein's payroll for years? Three hundred million Americans, and the same few names keep popping up. Do Epstein's former allies and clients think Biden or any Dem is even less likely to prosecute than Trump?
I speculate that Trump has some FBI files, created long before he ran for President, proving that the FBI was investigating him for colluding with Russian Intelligences since 2012. Such documents would prove that FBI Director James Comey lied to Trump and also to the public when Comey denied the existence of such an investigation.
In the last weeks of his presidency, Trump was trying to declassify documents related to the FBI's RussiaGate hoax, but the Deep State slow-walked the declassification process sufficiently so that the declassification never was -- and never will be -- accomplished.
In recent days, Trump has hinted in his comments that the FBI is looking for RussiaGate documents.
I intend to write a blog article about my speculation.
In the meantime, I point out a blog article that I published on June 17, speculating that Trump decided to fire Comey in early May 2017 because Trump had received such documents secretly from an FBI official.
Was President Trump Told About the FBI Investigation of Him?
The FBI does not want the public to learn when the FBI really began to investigate Trump. I think that the FBI knows that Trump has documents that would show when that investigation began. Those are the documents that the FBI is trying to find and to take from him.
Of course the boxes were packed by someone else. Unless your inflicted with TDS, you wouldn’t expect Trump to actually pack up his office, all his paperwork and then some, and have it hauled to the house. If something got packed that shouldn’t have, you ask for it back. Now that takes people going through the boxes, and since the request is for potential classified material, well unlike GSA, Trump’s staff doesn’t have clearance. So it takes more time to go through it.
The difference with Hillary was she hired a third party to create an email server and store it in her home to prevent GSA and the National Archives from accessing her government work. She made it clear she wanted to avoid FOI requests. Because her work involved classified material, some of it ended up on her unsecured server. Unlike Trump, she didn’t have the authority to declassify material and she did have complete responsibility to properly handle the data. Except she claimed not to have such responsibility because she didn’t attend annual required training. This was her “lack of intent” that Comey decided set her free. This irresponsible person then wanted to be President.
And by the way, those 90,000 IRS agents and all the other State apparatchiks will be there long after Joe Biden and his crew of incompetents have shuffled off to the ice cream store. Unlike some politicians, they don't care what you think. About anything. Vote all you want, we can do what we want.
They're describing the document storage like a kidnapping. He kept them in a windowless room! In the basement!
"What was the sense of the raid? Has anyone in power come forward to explain to us, the People? I don't think so. We are left to accept the arrogant We have full access to everything. We can go everywhere."
Now you know what our political elites think of you. Be grateful, peasant. Or else.
I thought party raids had gone out of style…
They were searching for documents that Trump had already declassified.
He wanted the American people to have those docs.
And they had to go to a corrupt magistrate Obama donor "Judge" to get this warrant. A "Judge" that resigned as a Federal Prosecutor and started defending the people he was prosecuting the next day. Those people were Epstein lackeys.
This is in response to the whistleblowers inside the DOJ and FBI that are calling out the blatant corruption around the Hunter Biden Laptop.
This is a desperate move by a desperate Regime.
This event isn't primarily about the FBI. My understanding and experience is that the FBI are just foot soldiers who go where the US Attorneys send them. No. this event speaks to the leadership of the DoJ and ultimately the White House. If you cared about leading the country - the whole country - you'd immediately and clearly explain the details of why this search was necessary. If you don't give a damn about unity or cohesiveness of the country and its citizenry, and only want "your side" to win, and feel that we'll all be better if only we get "those guys over there", you'd act just like the DoJ and White House are acting, it seems to me.
In short: this isn't statesmanship or any semblance of leadership.
“We have full access to everything. We can go everywhere.”
Grab him by his wife’s panties. When you’re a weaponized FBI, they [have to] let you.
So let me see if I understand this.
1. Trump as President had the full legal authority to classify and declassify stuff.
2. Before he left office he declassified some stuff and told the bureaucracy to ship it to Mar-A-Lago. No secret purloining.
3. Biden’s handlers decide to REclassify stuff and ask for it back. This does not retroactively criminalize what Trump did. Probably many other presidents have had similar wrangles over records?
4. Trump was cooperating with Biden administration over logistics of reclassification and return of documents which probably are stamped “secret” and not over-stamped “declassified by order DJT December 2020” because it was chaos in his WH, especially at the end.
5. Garland and the rest of Biden’s handlers see this as a great messaging opportunity, aimed at the whole country. Bonus would be they can find stuff from which to craft an indictment and DQ Trump for keeps. But if this cows and demoralizes his supporters, and energizes their opponents? Mission accomplished.
6. I see no reason to go through the farce of midterm “elections.”
What was the sense of the raid? Has anyone in power come forward to explain to us, the People? I don't think so. We are left to accept the arrogant We have full access to everything. We can go everywhere.
You are answering your own questions.
But you persist in giving these people credence despite their long history of lying and deceit.
"this is something that hits onlookers hard"
It's just in the eyes of the beholders. Nothing to see here.
"It makes the government seem more brutal"
"seem." Right.
"Why was this deemed necessary or even appropriate?"
It was necessary to attack Trump. Which is always appropriate.
"We are left to accept the arrogant We have full access to everything. We can go everywhere."
You didn't care to prevent it in 2020, so yes, you are left to accept it.
This is literally how the Communist system progressed over time.
See "The Lives of Others" (2006) about East Germany:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0405094/
The plot and outcome wouldn't surprise anyone now.
I was reminded yesterday of the Sopranos scene where Paulie is searching Christopher's apartment.
He is looking in adreana's underwear drawer,pulls out a pair of panties, sniffs them and puts them in his pocket.
https://youtu.be/wrg9R4f-Mzw
John LGBTQBNY Henry
So we have a sexual pervert Jeffery Epstein's cohort's lawyer, now federal magistrate, approving a search of Melania underwear. Not a good look, so to speak.
The more that this raid is exposed (ha), the uglier Merrick Garland, aka the Bassett Hound, looks. Biden was probably advised, but he has already forgotten about it.
Not to worry though, Senator Lindsey will investigate. *cough*
So if I'm reading this right:
1. The boxes were packed and sent to Mar-a-Lago by the the GSA. In broad daylight.
2. The boxes have already been gone through at Mar-a-Lago by the FBI with Trump's full cooperation.
3. This is the pretext for going through Melanie's underwear drawer.
Maybe there will be a picture as powerful as the one of the armed police officer / soldier pointing a gun at Elian Gonzalez, the child forcibly shipped back to Cuba years ago.
Not that that did Elian any good - he still got sent back.
G. Garland Liddy Watergated Mar A Lago.
I'll bet the FBI agents drew straws, rolled dice, or did rock-paper-scissors to see who got to search through Melania's lingerie drawers.
how could searches be effective if the woman's closet were off limits? —
serious question When Hilary! was known to be using a private server to download Top Secret State Dept documents, and sell them to the highest bidders.. Did the DOJ warrant for THAT give them access to a "woman's closet"?
OH! That's RIGHT! They Didn't get a warrant.. Because they didn't ask for one; They just called up Hilary! and told her to wipe* the server
wipe* you know! like with a cloth
What was the sense of the raid? Has anyone in power come forward to explain to us, the People?
Quite the contrary, White House Spokesperson Karin’s Jean-Pierre insists that no one briefed Koe Biden on the raid ahead of time. Not sure I believe her, given her track record of not exactly being truthful.
Anyone besides me remember Merrick Garland’s promise to depoliticize the DOJ?
Have you met FBI agents? I have. The old guys are great. But since the late 90's, real crime fighters have been excludedand purged, replaced by people relentlessly trained by unelected nonprofits to foment legally consequential persecution towards white men, Christians, patriot activists, certain types of the rural poor, and white women. Hate crime laws, even mere speech acts, are prioritized dramatically over violent, multi- and single-state serial murders and rapes. Eric Holder started this under Clinton and expanded it under Obama. I'm on an unofficial, DOJ hate criminal list for merely writing about this in a major daily. One of their dolt-fash nonprofit overlords let it slip. Maybe you should ban me. Or maybe someone should expose this behavior and clear my name. I can't afford Trump's lawyers. I lost everything, careers, and jobs, everything except my brave and ethical husband, who will not compromise one inch regarding what is right.
So I guess I did not lose the most important thing. But the FBI stables need Augean cleaning.
A legal source said that the boxes had been packed up by the General Services Administration and shipped to Mar-a-Lago when Trump left office in January 2020. Trump’s attorneys, led by Evan Corcoran, had been cooperating fully with federal authorities on the return of the documents to the National Archives and Records Administration, according to sources.
So we have two anonymous sources saying first that the boxes had been "packed by the GSA" and that Trump was "fully cooperating".
One thing that we know Trump is very good at is stonewalling and dragging out legal proceedings. Getting any information out of him is like pulling teeth. Only in the past couple days has he finally been forced to turn over his taxes and actually forced into a deposition.
If we stick with Occam's razor, the most obvious reason the FBI decided to go the warrant route is that Trump took a bunch of documents he had no right to from the White House. He has been stalling for over a year and a half.
According to my sources, Hillary's underwear drawer is twice as big, but holds half as many pairs of her panties.
It has never been searched.
BTW I trust the NY Post far more than I do the NYT or WAPO based on their respective handling of Hunter Laptop story.
Of course, anything is far more than zero.
Do you suppose Donald Trump had security cameras installed in his wife’s wardrobe?
The feds instructed Trump’s representatives to switch off the security cameras but they refused.
This request was so they could plant evidence, or remove whatever documents Trump possesses that would incriminate the Deep State. Trump wrote on Truth Social this morning that they also wanted everyone to leave the premises so they could do whatever the hell they wanted.
Warrants don't mean shit anymore. A warrant is only as ethical as the judge who signed it. When you can get a partisan liberal hack judge who defended pedophile pushers for Epstein, you're system is fucked.
I'm sure in Madison, WI you could find a judge that would authorize a strip search of Tim Michels.
Owen,
By DQ for keeps I assume you mean disqualify from running for prez.
How would an indictment keep him from running?
He's still 35+, natural born citizen, 14 years resident.
There is a statute that supposedly would prevent it if convicted but a statute cannot override the constitution.
Our president emeritus in a kangaroo court proceeding would guarantee a huge sympathy vote.
John LGBTQBNY Henry
And the one judge who gave approval was the guy who was on Epstein's payroll for years? Three hundred million Americans, and the same few names keep popping up. Do Epstein's former allies and clients think Biden or any Dem is even less likely to prosecute than Trump?
Do you have the least shred of evidence that this is true? Or you just repeating shit you read on Truth Social?
Trump could release his copy of the warrant any time he wants. Why hasn't he?
Banks use exploding dye markers. I see no reason why the average person cannot put a few around their house as well.
Does the whining ever end? The fucktard put himself in these situations. That's the beauty of the United States of America. Technically no one is above the law. Even a former president. He should have pardoned himself.
The apoplectic reactions are comedy gold. You people claim January 6th wasn't an insurrection and if we don't believe that, you threatening Civil War. Isn't it Ironic?
"It makes the government seem more brutal..."
That is because the government is brutal when they want to be.
Compare this with Director Comey's smarmy interview of Hillary Clinton regarding, yes, "her emails."
Disgusting.
I think nothing impacted my change of opinion about the FBI and the national security agencies generally than the kid gloves treatment given Clinton and Clinesmith vs. the brutal thuggery of the treatment of Flynn, Manafort, Stone, et al. and the continued goat rodeo of the Russian collusion hoax. The FBI knew there was nothing to it by March 2017, within a month of Trump's inauguration, but they dragged it out until the spring of 2019, after the 2018 elections. That, my friends, is a government destabilization operation conducted onshore by our own law enforcement and national security organizations.
Wray is no better than Comey. Clapper and Brennan are a disgrace. Garland is a weasel. No one has been held accountable.
"We can go everywhere"
Except the closet in Hillary's bathroom. Talk about a woman's intimate spaces!
I'm trying to picture Donald Trump sneaking into Melania's closet and burying a manila folder stamped 'TOP SECRET' under her panties.
Joe Biden probably told Garland, "Be sure to check his wife's underwear drawer. That's where Hunter always hid stuff."
Video schmideo. There are 1000s of hours of exculpatory video from J6 too and the Feds have done a remarkable job of hiding it from defendants and the public. Is it really likely we’ll see the Mar-a-Lago video? Not with the conflicted fascist Garland in charge. You know, the man Trump personally stopped from joining the SCOTUS. That’s a a pretty damn big conflict of interest.
So, this was all just a panty raid by a bunch of frat boys?
The feds instructed Trump’s representatives to switch off the security cameras but they refused.
Good for Trump's people. Federal agents doing doing their jobs have no expectation of privacy, especially in someone's home. That the FBI asked for the cameras to be turned off is yet one more black mark against them.
They mean well. That's why women voted for them. Not like all those mean tweets.
she claimed not to have such responsibility because she didn’t attend annual required training. This was her “lack of intent” that Comey decided set her free. This irresponsible person then wanted to be President.
I had a security clearance when I was in the army. You have to attend the training. If you don't you lose your access. There's also other adverse personnel actions as well. Of course, that's just for peons.
As far as I'm concerned, we've returned to 1775.
Nevertheless, given the depths the FBI and DOJ have sunk in the past decade I wonder if they were played (again), perhaps a false flag. I can imagine a Trump "whistleblower" sidling up to our overeager FBI and whispering, "all the secret, good stuff is hidden in Melania's lingerie chest."
"...It makes the government seem more brutal if you picture its agents rooting around in the lady's underwear drawer. "
I don't think that's quite correct. It doesn't make them seem more brutal. Nor does commanding the staff to turn off the security cameras make them seem more brutal. It actually means they are brutal, in the way they declare their all-encompassing authority with such relish. They are brutes, and with such unnecessary verbiage, they want us to know it.
Does a search warrant specify that they have the authority to order security cameras disabled?
Also, the FBI is full of CIA rejects who wish they'd spent more time learning Pashto and Persian in grad achool. So there are pissing match contests. But this is all really about some butthurt legal blogger (not this blog) still pissed about the revelation of Hillary's emails.
Though I disliked the tone of Andrew McCarthy's opinion posted at NRO yesterday, I think he is largely correct in his analysis of the raid. Hunting for classified documents is a cover story to throw people off track, and because the DOJ lacks a predicate to search for documents related to J6 at Trump's residence. The FBI was on a hunt for something the DOJ can twist into documentation of a 'plan' to physically disrupt the Electoral Vote certification.
Republican Rep. Scott Perry of Pennsylvania says that the FBI has confiscated his cellphone. (Legal Insurrection report)
“In the last weeks of his presidency, Trump was trying to declassify documents related to the FBI's RussiaGate hoax, but the Deep State slow-walked the declassification process sufficiently so that the declassification never was -- and never will be -- accomplished”
According to Kash Patel, who wad there, all the stuff classified that Trump took was declassified by him, as they packed everything up. He claims to have been there. That means that Trump wouldn’t have to testify himself, if this goes to trial. The problem is that the bureaucrats were dragging their feet. They had their procedures, and they were going to stick with them. But their procedures have little, if anything, to do with whether or not the documents were declassified - a sitting President (as Trump was at the time) has plenary declassification authority, as the Executive of the federal government. All of the power that these bureaucrats have is derivative of and delegated from him.
This is starting to almost look like that this is the bureaucrats’ revenge for Trump bypassing their claimed authority. The documents still had classification markings? BFD. Of course they did. They had been classified until declassified by Trump. Should they have been remarked as declassified? Who cares? The bureaucratic red tape is irrelevant as to the question of whether Trump exercised his plenary authority to declassify the documents. Those bureaucrats don’t have the legal power to slow down the declassification by the primary declassifier, the President.
Since when can the FBI conduct searches pursuant to a search warrant outside the view of the searchee’s attorneys, when they are present? Apparently Trump had attorneys there, and they were kept outside,while the search was being conducted. Looking more and more sketchy as we go along. Of course, Andy McCarthy believes that the search was pretextual from the start…
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Neil Peart was only off by 90 years.
A non-Article III "judge" issued this warrant. Reinhart is a US Magistrate Judge which is an administrative appointment by the majority of federal district judges in a federal district. Meaning Reinhart got his position not according to Article III, i.e., nomination by the president followed by the positive advice and consent of the Senate.
With this request for a search warrant being the hottest of hot potatoes imaginable - served on a former president - common sense and wisdom would see Reinhart bump that request up to a real Article III in his district. That he didn't builds the banana-republic case, n'est ce pas?
If the purpose of this is to disqualify Trump from running, the Public Records Act doesn't supersede the clear text of the Constitution as to the requirements to be eligible to hold the office of President. If the Dems try, it's a Supreme Court trial waiting to happen.
So much for the principle of particularity, then.
If the Dems try, it's a Supreme Court trial waiting to happen.
Roberts managed to keep the Court out of the 2020 mess, but I doubt he'd be able to do it again. Keeping Trump off the ballot would be a bridge too far. Additionally, I suspect that Kav, Gorsuch, and Barrett are a lot less sympathetic to the Roberts' notion of keeping the Court out of political controversies after the way they've been treated this year.
As for any such case, I'd guess even Roberts and Kagan would side with Trump.
So, what exactly are they looking for? If someone asked me to send them the contents of one of the rooms in my home, so I packed the stuff and sent it to them, but two months later they said I didn't send everything, I would ask "what is it you didn't receive?. Was it your baseball card collection, love notes from teenage girlfriends, box of superman comic books? Report on Ukraine corruption?"
Why don't they let the people know exactly what document(s) they are missing and need to have given to them so badly that they need to send the FBI with a search warrant? Apparently, they have been there and reviewed the contents at least once already. Obviously, there is something they really, really, do not want Trump to have in his possession.
Why does this entire thing remind me of the movie, "The Pelican Brief".
Trump should have filled the safe and file cabinets and closets with pictures of Hunter Biden smoking crack.
Bob Boyd said...
According to my sources, Hillary's underwear drawer is twice as big, but holds half as many pairs of her panties.
It has never been searched.
Go ahead, you’d be doing Bill a favor.
"We are left to accept the arrogant We have full access to everything. We can go everywhere."
Yes, some of you people are left to accept it, Althouse.
If we stick with Occam's razor, the most obvious reason the FBI decided to go the warrant route is that Trump took a bunch of documents he had no right to from the White House. He has been stalling for over a year and a half.
Maybe. If Occam's Razor neglects to take into account anything at all that the DOJ and FBI have done unto Trump for the past, what, six years.
If Occam's Razor does incorporate those events into its machinery, then what gets spat out the other end is not, "The FBI was acting correctly in the interests of the nation in response to Trump's obfuscations and malicious delays" but rather, "The FBI was acting to remove a threat to the Democrat administration."
They need to explain this. Right now.
Howard and Freder would have been on their knees sucking Stalin's and Hitler's cock if they had been alive in those countries at the time.
The raid was a speculative attempt to get evidence of something else is the explanation that makes the most sense of a pretty stupid ploy by the DoJ.
I wrote it several weeks ago when Althouse covered the story about the pressure Garland was getting to indict Trump- I wrote that it would be a colossally stupid thing to do, but seeing no evidence that these people aren't that stupid, I predicted it would happen. It is happening.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
That's it. Unfortunately, we now live in a country where an obscure pedo magistrate can interpret "particularly describing" as anything you want, taken from anywhere. It is a tragic fact that unbridled power in the United States emanates from the judges. The only thing that separates the FBI from the Nazi Gestapo is the opinion of the least honorable magistrate that can be found.
I've seen many comments likening this NKVD schtick to a fishing expedition. I disagree. Fishermen are at least after fish.
There is no evidence Bill ever even raided Hillary's twat.
The attitude of the American-Stasi FBI displayed at MAL is reminiscent of when the CIA activated and ran their fatboy agent provocateur Stephen Halper against the Trump campaign.
Halper approached multiple members of the Trump campaign trying to land a coveted advisor slot somewhere. Had he succeeded, HE would have been the one ensuring a "believable" "back channel" to Putin was "established" (wink wink) and then be the key player to "turn" and finger Trump.
Hillary's and Brennan's setup of Trump, with full obama/biden approval, would have been complete.
But as with the loathsome Romney, the Trump team kept pushing Halper away.
So what did Halper do? Went to lowly George Papadopolous, offer George a $10k fee to write and present a foreign policy
paper to a group in Israel.
Papadopolous, being a young guy happy to show his foreign policy chops, goes for it.
GP flies to Israel but tben gets handed the $10k in a very strange way and then the young guy, GP, starts gets his spidey sense tinglers reaction, and so instead of bringing the $10k back to the US on him, he does the smart thing.
He does not spend a dime of it and gets an Israeli lawyer to hold it.
As GP arrives back in the US, he is met by Customs and FBI officials who grab him, take him to a backroom and then start tearing thru all his stuff. Papadopolous reports the FBI pieces of s*** told him "this is what you get when you work for Trump".
This team of jackboots become very, very upset when their "search" (wink wink) turns up nothing...(gee, how did they know what to look for?).
Cut to the chase, GP's savvy move not to bring back the setup cash (which would have "proved" Trump's "foreign connections) forces the FBI to flex to Setup Option #2: get GP for "false statements" for misremembering the precise time he had lunch on a previous date as well as Setup Option #3 and #4 (previously activated and working thru backchannels): halper trying to setup a GP relationship with a Russian chick and the Australian Ambassador (Alexander Downer) "happenstance" "coincidental" meeting, engineered by Halper, between GP and Downer where Downer pressed GP about Hillary's emails being in russia's possession.
This all came out about midway thru Trump's term when the documented meetings between our "intrepid" Peter Strzok and MI6, and Downer made his "startling discovery" (wink wink) to MI6, and MI6 made its "startling" report about the GP-Downer meeting to Brennan...who relayed the "startling" MI6 report to its CIA-FBI inter-agency team...headed up by....Peter Strzok.
And this "startling" report was used as the basis for additional FISA spying warrants against Trump.
And if you dont believe any of that, despie its complete documentation, then its just a "coincudence" that the head of MI6 was forced to resign when Trump was inaugurated.
Freder Frederson said…
[Regarding the Epstein connected warrant judge]…Do you have the least shred of evidence that this is true? Or you just repeating shit you read on Truth Social?
Even though it doesn’t matter to Freder if it’s true or not…below are a few links:
Newsweek, The Independent, NY Post
Don’t do any googling yourself of course. It’s not like the information doesn’t pop up easily in 2022. Oh…and there is video up on Twitter of this judge defending Lois Lerner and her deleted emails when he was a US Attorney. Find that one yourself. Lazy.
Freder...I'll bet you went the University of Wisconsin, didn't you???
With all this trans cheerleading lately and government pushing for more 'diversity,' I'm guessing the 'male' agents were all trying on her panties and bras...
BTW, shame on the agents even asking for the video cameras to be turned off. If your job is what you claim it is, then it should be done in full view. You are supposedly the heroes seeking the evidence to protect our democracy from a would be tyrant. Yet you want to hide in darkness like a roach.
'I speculate that Trump has some FBI files, created long before he ran for President, proving that the FBI was investigating him for colluding with Russian Intelligences since 2012.'
How did he get them?
Comey was hostile and Wray (worst pick along with Sessions) would be hostile as well.
And the rank and file are all BLM-kneeling fatsos.
I find this raid for documents baffling. Are they not in some digital format by now?
When I knock on the door I'll tell Hillary, Meade said I could take a peek.
Joe Smith at 9:15 AM
How did he get them? [the files proving that the FBI was investigating Trump]
In my blog article, I speculated that someone in the FBI gave the files to Trump secretly in early May 2017. That prompted Trump to fire FBI Director Comey, who had assured Trump twice that there was no such FBI investigation.
Trump never has mentioned that file publicly, but he still has it. Now the FBI is trying to get it from him.
I'm sticking with my theory that this was a fishing expedition driven by internal polling about 2022. Biden is a disaster that is dragging down Dems. The GOP is motivated to turn out, independents are leaning towards republican candidates, and the progressive base is angry that the admin has given them only scraps, and unmotivated to turn out in November. The goal of the raid was to find something that they could use to tarnish Trump and, by extension, the GOP, scare off moderate voters, and encourage their own base to vote in November.
When are they going after the famous men who used Epsteins young girls?? WHEN are they going after Clinton Corruption?? WHEN are they going after the BLM embezzlers??? WHEN are they going after the Biden Family Corruption?? WHEN are they going after Obama for spying on a political opponent?? They aren't, which is why nobody trusts them anymore than we trust anybody in our corrupt government.
You people should rejoice. The Dims have taken the easy path to disqualify Trump from running. Once convicted and banned, the SCOTUS will rule that the law Trump signed in 2018 is unconstitutional. Then all the state legislatures will pass their own laws on felons who mishandled classified documents. You people love States Rights. Trump will be banned in Blue States and on the ballots in Red States. He'll achieve folk hero status and win in 2024.
Lloyd W. Robertson said...
...And the one judge who gave approval was the guy who was on Epstein's payroll for years? Three hundred million Americans, and the same few names keep popping up. ...
I have noticed it as well. One occasion was around when Epstein *didn't* kill himself. I had heard rumors of his activities but did not know of his earlier court case. Although I did not recall the name being mentioned, I remember well the story of one of the prosecutors flipping to defense in the middle of the Epstein case and was surprised that the judge permitted it.
People who study current events (which is future "history") some individuals do appear and disappear and then reappear again in areas where you would least expect them to do so. With the exception of the willfully ignorant or the simply incurious, they are easy to find. When you have one person (Peter Strock comes to mind) who already somewhat notorious for his actions, it seems more likely he will reappear in another notorious role.
If we stick with Occam's razor, the most obvious reason the FBI decided to go the warrant route is that Trump took a bunch of documents he had no right to from the White House.
I would contend that Occam's razor points us to Andrew McCarthy's conclusion that the warrant was a pretense to get in the door. Once there, they were free to conduct a broad search for anything and everything they could uncover. Or plant.
And just for fun, consider Alan Deshowitz' question as to why they went straight to a search warrant when they could have simply subpoenaed the records.
And then consider that Trump had previously given them access to those 15 boxes and they had already been through them, according to the NY Post.
WaPo Fact checker says 90% of the assertions in Trump's new video are false or misleading. I watched the video. It really is a matter of, "Who are you going to believe, WaPo or your lyin' eyes?"
Trump certainly offers up some political-style embellishment. Who doesn't? But his statements have the ring of truth. WaPo's smell of nit-picking unlike any that would be imposed on a Democrat - any Democrat.
Yancey Ward: "There is no evidence Bill ever even raided Hillary's twat."
Bill Clinton is a solid enough manager not to interfere with the inner workings of his subordinate's (Webb Hubbell) execution of the "plan".
"It makes the government seem more brutal if you picture its agents rooting around in the lady's underwear drawer."
Almost as brutal as the pre-dawn search at the home of a Scott Walker aide. The aide and her partner weren't even allowed to get dressed while the search was conducted; they were given blankets to cover themselves in the meantime. No secret routers were found.
The DOJ and the FBI are both arms of the Progressive party that need to go.
They all belong in prison. This is NOT going to end pretty, and they keep poking the angry bear.....
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/08/report-least-three-doj-attorneys-merrick-garland-joined-fbi-9-hour-raid-trump-mar-lago-compound-blocking-trump-attorneys-building/
Howard is projecting at 9:39. Only his Democrats elevate their law breakers to folk hero status. Witness the Clintons and Bidens in particular.
It is highly unlikely Trump has committed a crime here. The issue, evidently not clear to Democrat scofflaws, is the political weaponizing of federal law enforcement and a federal magistrate. Their shamelessness is clarifying who the real criminals are.
Mr Wibble: "I'm sticking with my theory that this was a fishing expedition driven by internal polling about 2022. Biden is a disaster that is dragging down Dems. The GOP is motivated to turn out, independents are leaning towards republican candidates, and the progressive base is angry that the admin has given them only scraps, and unmotivated to turn out in November. The goal of the raid was to find something that they could use to tarnish Trump and, by extension, the GOP, scare off moderate voters, and encourage their own base to vote in November."
The raid serves multiple purposes...but each of those purposes has a high probability of a disastrous (for dems) boomerang effect.
That they went ahead and did it anyway tells you the level of complete and utter desperation AND that the dems, not the dumbest ones like a gadfly or Howard or Inga, but the smartest dems know that the destruction they have delivered to our economy and our security cannot in any way be papered over or mitigated in the time needed to have an electoral impact.
Thus, the raid and confiscating Congressperson's communication devices, etc.
And just wait until Cheney gets blown out of the water in just days. You'll see her go Full SchifftyxInfinity in her madness to grovel before the dems and prove her bona fides to her masters on the left.
That's the only path she has to gain some leverage with her far left dem allies. If Cindy McCain can wrangle one of the Ambassador to the UN gigs out of Biden's Earpiece, perhaps Liz thinks she might be able to wrangle an Assistant Sec of Defense gig out of Biden's Earpiece and then later parley that into her own CEO gig of a defense contractor firm. These Endless Wars are going to need lots more "stuff" after all.
30 agents over 9 hours, mucked about in Melania's unmentionables.
270 hours!
19.5 WEEKS if one person worked 40 hours a week to search.
If we stick with Occam's razor,.....
We aren't working with Occam's razor, we're working with the New Soviet's bludgeon.
Even other countries know that the Intel Agencies are acting like the NAZIS they have turned into.... https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/08/around-world-people-labeling-fbis-raid-president-trumps-mar-lago-kristallnacht-day-america-changed/
>>That he didn't builds the banana-republic case,
At this point, I'm beginning to believe that banana republic may be a best case outcome...
"Joe Smith said...
With all this trans cheerleading lately and government pushing for more 'diversity,' I'm guessing the 'male' agents were all trying on her panties and bras..."
*dead*
Strange. Despite 30 years as a prosecutor I am unfamiliar with a search warrant that grants "full access to everything." Probable cause and specificity used to be required.
"Full access to everything" must be a concept agreed upon by the Biden DOJ and an Obot magistrate. Of course, it's not unique. It has underpinnings with the Gestapo, Stasi, KGB, etc.
Interesting that except for Tulsi Democrats are apparently ok with the corruption of federal law enforcement.
‘If we stick with Occam's razor, the most obvious reason the FBI decided to go the warrant route is that Trump took a bunch of documents he had no right to from the White House.’
Occam would want you to remember an earlier clause in your comment where you noted the GSA packed the boxes. Not Trump.
Ron Paul 1988: (Twitter Video Link Below)
"It almost looks like the FBI was designed to spy on Americans who might be disagreeing with policy."
Damn. That guy was right about everything. An American Nostradamus.
Richard Epstein reacts to the FBI raid on Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate. What would justify a raid on a former president? When will its contents be made public? Is Trump on the road to indictment?
The Libertarian Podcast: Raiders Of The Last President
John Henry @ 8:00: yes, I meant “indictment” to cover the whole ugly process of prosecution and conviction, done with unseemly haste, in order to render DJT ineligible for another term as President. I kinda compressed things there, and assumed that conviction would indeed function to DQ him. From your comment I guess my assumption was wrong but let me guess, these people would litigate the issue endlessly, well beyond 2024. Thus my final point: which is that “elections” are now pretty pointless.
FBI Gnomes:
1. Collect Underpants
2. ???????
3. Profit!
Trump could release his copy of the warrant any time he wants. Why hasn't he?
How do you even know he HAS the warrant, asshole?
He wasn't there when your thugs raided the place. How do you know he has it? From the unconfirmed bullshit you read on-line?
Here is what I glean from this so far;
1) Using a judge who worked for Epstein to sign the warrant is either phenomenally stupid, phenomenally desperate or phenomenally arrogant. Those are not mutually exclusive.
2) If they indeed did not tell the White House, it means that the White House is not running the government. The person who planned and okayed this is running the government. If they did tell the White House we've been told a direct lie.
3) If there are whistleblowers in the FBI or DOJ they need to come out publicly now.
4) The liberals who are tying themselves into knots trying to defend this are literally insane. They need to take a step back, take a deep breath and look at how far they've come from a decent understanding of basic right and wrong.
That was the repeated statement of the 3 DOJ lawyers — who were described as displaying an "arrogant" demeanor
I mean, that sounds like our DOJ. I don't think this is unique to the Trump situation, sort of like when the Carter Page FISA warrant looked awfully targeted with the fraudulent email that one DOJ lawyer manufactured and all that, but then the IG looked at a sample of other FISA warrants and it turned out that that's not unusual -- they're regularly sloppy about the support for domestic surveillance and the FISA court lets them get away with it. Sure it sounds sinister when you zero in on a particular, politically-charged situation. But it's actually normal for our government. Which is in some ways worse, because there's now a forest in which to hide the odd tree of politically motivated misconduct.
If you don't want federal agents behaving like this, you need to set up a mechanism whereby individual federal agents face consequences for behaving like this. And not just "DOJ pays a fine" (aka "taxpayers pay a fine.") In the same way that the government is supposed to emphasise punishment of individual wrongdoers, not just "corporation pays a fine" (aka "shareholders pay a fine") individual civil servants need to face individual liability to disincentivise this kind of behaviour. But in fact, where it matters to them, they get rewarded for this kind of thing, so the incentives are on the other side.
"Trump could release his copy of the warrant any time he wants. Why hasn't he?"
McCarthy said yesterday he doubts the DOJ/FBI has given him a copy.
Perhaps it's been mentioned above, but the image that came to my mind was Elon Gonzalez cornered in his closet with a federal agent's gun pointed at him.
So I go to Chapaqua, ring the bell.
Hillary says, "Can I help you?"
"I'm here to search your underwear drawer."
"Do you have a warrant?"
"Hunh unh, but Meade said I could take a peek"
"Meade."
"Yeah, you know, Meade."
"Really? Meade said that? I'm a little surprised. He seems like such a nice guy in the comments. Not at all the type to get mixed up in anything sordid like a search of my underwear drawer."
"I know, right? Well, anyways...it won't take but a minute..."
"Listen, I think Meade's fucking with you."
"He seemed sincere."
"Despite his association with a prominent legal blog, Meade doesn't actually have authority over anyone's underwear drawer."
"He said I would be doing Bill a favor."
"Bill has long since moved on to other underwear drawers. So many underwear drawers..."
"Um...so I can't just...?"
"No."
"I came all this way."
"I'm going to go out on limb and suggest that searches aren't really your forte."
"This is my first one."
"Perhaps you should content yourself with writing comments."
"I like writing comments."
"That's fine, then. Goodbye."
Hillary closes the door. Her drawer remains an undiscovered country.
If we stick with Occam's razor, the most obvious reason the FBI decided to go the warrant route is that Trump took a bunch of documents he had no right to from the White House. He has been stalling for over a year and a half.
I guess one of Field Marshall Freder's FBI contacts let him sniff Melania's panties and he is still on a fantasy voyage.
If we stick with Occam's razor, the most obvious reason the FBI decided to go the warrant route is that Trump took a bunch of documents he had no right to from the White House. He has been stalling for over a year and a half.
I guess one of Field Marshall Freder's FBI contacts let him sniff Melania's panties panties and he is still on a fantasy roll.
Since Biden is claiming he had no idea about the raid, we know the raid came up with nothing.
The Best and the Brightest.
Howard said...
You people should rejoice. The Dims have taken the easy path to disqualify Trump from running. Once convicted and banned, the SCOTUS will rule that the law Trump signed in 2018 is unconstitutional.
Like so many Democrats, Howard thinks the US Constitution was passed and signed by Trump in 2018. Howard, maybe a refresher course on US History would do you good. I know you don't use it at the Senior Care Center but commenting here would look more intelligent.
The FBI did not leave a copy of the search warrant and left no list of items they confiscated.
Ron Paul 1988: (Twitter Video Link Below)
"It almost looks like the FBI was designed to spy on Americans who might be disagreeing with policy."
Damn. That guy was right about everything. An American Nostradamus.
A lot of people seem to think the FBI was a bunch of basically good guys who gradually lost their way over the past 10-40 years. (pick your start point)
Bullshit.
The fbi was born corrupt back in 1918. It's predecessor, founded by Napoleon's great nephew and US Attorney General was arguablyj even worse.
Read any history of the fbi. Tim weiner's Enemies is a good place to start. Even the hagiographies discuss the corruption in the context of means justifying extralegal/extraconstitutional ends.
Much as I love Ron Paul, he was not prognostication, just stating historical fact.
John LGBTQBNY Henry
Original Mike is right and even CBS admits it.
Sources told CBS News that the FBI did, in fact, take boxes and documents from Mar-a-Lago, but no electronics. Two sources said that some, if not all, of the documents are potentially classified records.
The National Archives and Records Administration retrieved 15 boxes of records, some of which contained classified material, from Mar-a-Lago in mid-January. Monday's search appears to be part of that Justice Department investigation.
Halligan says she and Bobb were barred from going inside the complex, forced to remain outside, between the ballroom and residence, on the grounds of Mar-a-Lago.
So, no lawyers and no warrant.
Freder needs a reality check.
Nice try, Bob. And quite poetic. A+
'Once convicted and banned, the SCOTUS will rule that the law Trump signed in 2018 is unconstitutional.'
Those state laws would then also be unconstitutional, because the constitution actually spells out the only qualifications to be POTUS.
You are getting dumber every day...didn't think it possible...
'Hillary closes the door. Her drawer remains an undiscovered country.'
'Drawer' or 'Drawers'?
Either way, Huma knows...
This is a power ploy to send the message they can do anything they want. It is expected to cow many at the possibility. But it really just shows that the strong citizen must expect this abuse from the state security serving the party. They do this in hopes of bringing shame on the victim.
The solution is to accept the police/DOJ are your enemy and will use these tactics. Harden yourself as they do intelligence and military operators at risk of falling into to the hands of the enemy. Face reality or they will use your "pride" and desperation to maintain social standing against you.
They use "charges", "raids", "warrants" etc. in the media to besmirch the state's target, when it means nothing other than the state is targeting someone. The People need to get over the idea that the government's actors are honorable, tell the truth or act without malice.
Government is a necessary evil, but should never be given the presumption of innocence. Malice and political motivation should be presumed until evidence is provided otherwise.
For Freder:
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/09/judge-mar-a-lago-epstein-00050739
Freder doesn't seem to be particularly well read.
Government is a necessary evil, but should never be given the presumption of innocence.
Because it bears repeating!
Wow. Now saying that it was a rogue action by the FBI. Garland wasn't informed.
Maybe.
The First Amendment gets the ink, but of the 10 rights in the mandatory Bill of Rights, it’s the Fourth Amendment that was at the heart of the 1776 guys reason to fight the Empire of Great Britain. The essence of that fight was the trade laws and customs duties milking the colonials for the wealthy in London. To enforce those trade laws the king sent his Army here to protect the King’s Customs Agents. Those were the guys searching and seizing anywhere and everywhere they wanted.
Welcome to the tea party guys. And the Redcoats were then sent to disarm the colonials up the road from Boston at Concord. Good luck with that.
Howard and Freder would have been on their knees sucking Stalin's and Hitler's cock if they had been alive in those countries at the time.
Well played sir! I can't speak for Howard but your impeccable logic has convinced me. I yield to your superior intellect and witty repartee.
Gusty Winds said...
Ron Paul 1988: (Twitter Video Link Below)
"It almost looks like the FBI was designed to spy on Americans who might be disagreeing with policy."
Damn. That guy was right about everything. An American Nostradamus.
8/10/22, 10:46 AM
Actually, I think he is more of an American Cassandra, the person in Greek mythology who was given the ability to foretell the future, but with the caveat that no one would believe her.
"Wow. Now saying that it was a rogue action by the FBI. Garland wasn't informed."
Garland "didn't know". Biden "didn't know".
How stupid do they think people are?
Why weren't Trump's lawyers allowed to watch? Why weren't they given a copy of the warrant? Is that legal? If something is "found" there is no chain of custody, not that that won't matter in the J6 show trial. FBI has motive, Trump just said he's going to gut them.
It's a lot like the election, I am suspicious of vote counting when observers have been told to leave or the counters put cardboard over windows.
To be fair, Biden really is clueless about everything, someone who is running the country knew about this.
Also, remember how Trump was impeached for asking about Joe and Hunter's Very fishy business in Ukraine. Now we give Billions to Ukraine weekly. Clown world.
Howard said...
You people should rejoice. The Dims have taken the easy path to disqualify Trump from running.
Are you really that stupid? The Constitution states the qualifications for holding the office of president. It's black letter law. Do you really think if the Dems tried to disqualify Trump through the Public Records Act, that the Supreme Court wouldn't overturn that faster than you can say FLB?
Democlacy's double-edged scalpel.
OM: "Garland "didn't know". Biden "didn't know".
How stupid do they think people are?"
Have you seen Inga's and jim5301's posts?
The New Soviet Democraticals understand very well their own base so I'm assuming they are assuming all voters are precisely as stupid as an Inga or a jim5301.
That's why Pelosi is comfortable saying China is the "freest society in the world" and Biden's Earpiece's Teleprompter says there was "zero inflation last month".
Indeed the New Soviet Democraticals leaders are desperately looking for ways to flee the sinking MAL Raid "ship".
It appears the New Soviet Democraticals are going to let Epsteins's lawyer/beloved democratical Magistrate "judge", the US Attorney for South Florida and Chris Wray take the hit for this idiotic stasi raid.
Which is strange as the entire Althouse Lefty Moron Commentariat have been bloviating nonstop and explaining the Absolute Perfectness Of This Entirely Justifiable And Righteous "Legal" Action Against A Clear And Present Danger Who Must Be Stopped At All Costs If We Are To Save Democracy For All Posterity.
Gee, you'd think everyone would want to be front and center to take credit for that.
How strange then that these New Soviet Democratical Apparatchiks appear....hesitant (LOL) to do so......
"If only comrade Biden knew"
Freder Frederson said...
If we stick with Occam's razor, the most obvious reason the FBI decided to go the warrant route is that Trump took a bunch of documents he had no right to from the White House. He has been stalling for over a year and a half.
It may be that POTUS doesn't have legal access to my medical records from when I was on active duty. Possible, but I wouldn't bet on it.
The POTUS has access and the right to see ALL GOVERNMENT documents, at any time. And complete and total declassification authority. If he says "This is declassified" doesn't matter what bureacrat holds up the release (as was unlawfully done), the document is declassified. And, if he has a copy he can take it with him. Period, End of discussion.
Stating that the POTUS has no RIGHT to remove a document and take it with him, any document that is official, is stupid and idiotic. And I suspect the liberals on the SC would join in a 9-0 decision overturning any lower court order that says otherwise.
Almost every government document printed out was printed out in duplicate and triplicate. Using Occam's Razor, they're searching for what Trump has on them that was collected from official government sources. Not eeryone in government was anti-Trump. They cannot be searching for documents he has illegally, because there are no such things.
I yield to your superior intellect and witty repartee.
Pretty low bar, Freder. You and Inga make up the bottom share of Althouse commenters.
“Why weren't Trump's lawyers allowed to watch? Why weren't they given a copy of the warrant? Is that legal? If something is "found" there is no chain of custody, not that that won't matter in the J6 show trial. FBI has motive, Trump just said he's going to gut them.
Trump team won’t release FBI warrant for Mar-a-Lago raid as judge weighs motion to unseal it
“Former President Donald Trump reportedly has no plans to publish the search warrant used to raid Mar-a-Lago on Monday — as the judge who approved the search considers a motion to unseal the document.”
And after I hit the Publish Your Comment button last, I wandered over to The Gateway Pundit. Occam's Razor as I said- they were looking for what Trump had on them.
"HUGE DEVELOPMENT: Report Alleges FBI “Had Personal Stake” in Mar-a-Lago Raid – Agents Were After Spygate Documents Trump Was Holding That Likely Implicated FBI"
I'm not surprised that a search extends into a woman's most intimate space — how could searches be effective if the woman's closet were off limits? — but I recognize that this is something that hits onlookers hard. It makes the government seem more brutal if you picture its agents rooting around in the lady's underwear drawer.
To me it makes them seem more like skanky perverts.
The picture in our head was already vivid, but there will also be pictures:
The feds instructed Trump’s representatives to switch off the security cameras but they refused.
Unlike Biden's cops in the bedroom, it's not just a vivid mental image of something we're made to fear could happen. It really happened, and there will be video. Perhaps the video will make the FBI agents seem respectful and professional and it will calm us. Maybe our imagination makes it worse. FBI agents! In Melania's wardrobe!
This is the nice part: the Trump people don't have to show any video of the FBIes behaving well (assuming any actually exists). They get to show every time the FBIes look like asses
I expect there will be some great campaign commercials coming out of this
So we have all these mean agents running around bullying all the occupants at Mar-a-Lago including Secret Service agents who knew the FBI was coming. But not to worry, the bullying will show up on the security cameras that Eric Trump tells us were left on during the search. Have you seen the proof? Neither have I!
As why was the search necessary? CNN reports:
Longtime Archives lawyer Gary Stern first reached out to a person from the White House counsel's office who had been designated as the President Records Act point of contact about the record-keeping issue, hoping to locate the missing items and initiate their swift transfer back to NARA, said multiple sources familiar with the matter. The person had served as one of Trump's impeachment defense attorneys months earlier and, as deputy counsel, was among the White House officials typically involved in ensuring records were properly preserved during the transfer of power and Trump's departure from office.
By description, this is likely either John Eisenberg (who hid the full transcript of the perfect phone call but who was not obviously involved in Trump’s first impeachment defense) or Pat Philbin (who was the titular Deputy White House Counsel and was overtly involved in that defense). If it’s the latter, then Philbin recently got a DOJ subpoena, albeit reportedly in conjunction with January 6. If so, DOJ might have recent testimony about documents that Trump was knowingly withholding from the Archives.
Beast of England's typo on "Panty Raid" was unfortunate, but I am stealing it, nonetheless.
Gusty Winds said... [hush][hide comment]
I'll bet the FBI agents drew straws, rolled dice, or did rock-paper-scissors to see who got to search through Melania's lingerie drawers.
They took turns. And, looking for Tom Arnolds missing Russian pee tapes and Omarosa n word recordings
Nobody is above above the law. Except the Clintons, the Bidens, the Pelosis, the FBI, the CIA ...
It's a very minor point, but I hope stolen undies doesn't become a factoid. We know they went through Melania's wardrobe. But do we actually know that they walked off with her panties?
Interesting that Trump could’ve made public his copy of the search warrant and the manifest of what documents were taken by the FBI, but didn’t. Instead he throws all sorts of BS out there for his cultists to eat up.
Russian Collusion Truther and Hillary Hoax Dossier Dead Ender Inga: "“Former President Donald Trump reportedly has no plans to publish the search warrant used to raid Mar-a-Lago on Monday — as the judge who approved the search considers a motion to unseal the document.”
Yes, Inga wrote that.
Just now.
And she doesn't even know what it means....
Howie would feel differently if FBI were sniffing his panties.
Semper Fudd!
gadfly said... Have you seen the proof? Neither have I!
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Gadfly wants the video today!!!
Not concerned about hundreds of hours of witheld 1/6 footage.
Nope.
“…as the judge who approved the search considers a motion to unseal the document.”
Dumbass Drago, the warrant and the list of what they took are NOT sealed to Trump. They are sealed to the rest of us, so Trump himself can stop shooting BS at his minions and cultists and he can publish the warrant and the list HIMSELF.
“Trump’s team can release the search warrant and the inventory of seized items at any time, however. The sealing order does not apply to them.”
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/federal-magistrate-judge-orders-doj-to-respond-to-media-and-non-profit-requests-to-unseal-trump-search-warrant/
Andrew McCarthy said yesterday this would be likely: "On Tuesday evening, Trump’s lawyer revealed that authorities didn’t even want to present a warrant, and when they finally did, the warrant had the probable cause sealed."
lawyer-marc-elias-shows-the-mar-a-lago-raid-is-all-about-disqualifying-trump-in-2024
No kidding. Banana Republic indeed.
From Original MIke's link at 12:30...
A source close to the former president expressed concern that FBI agents or DOJ lawyers conducting the search could have “planted stuff” because they would not allow Trump’s attorneys inside the 128-room building to observe the operation, which lasted more than nine hours.
Spectacularly stupid to invade the ex-president's home and exclude his lawyers from your search.
Surely some idiot on the left realizes that this might be, what's the term, politically sensitive.
As in, there's going to be a huge amount of suspicion about this raid. How could you be clueless about that?
Imagine Democrats grabbing a box of ballots and excluding all the Republicans from the room as you count the ballots.
Who would trust that shit?
Why would you exclude Trump's attorneys from his house? On what basis would you do that (other than your guns)?
You have no legal basis to exclude Trump's attorneys from Trump's house.
If you find the smoking gun that you believe you will find, who will believe you?
If Trump says, "You planted that shit, which is why you kept my attorneys out of my house," what are you going to say?
Why did you want the cameras turned off?
You dumb sketchy FBI idiots. Nobody fucking trusts you..
People on the left want to defund you and people on the right think you're fascist creeps from the swamp.
OK, so reading this New Yorker piece, this jumps out at me.
An individual with knowledge of the probe said evidence that the former President had knowingly mishandled classified documents, by removing them from the White House, is strong.
Somebody mentioned Occam's razor upthread. So here's one possibility...
They want to arrest Donald Trump and convict him a crime.
They believe they can charge him with knowingly mishandling classified documents.
So, Garland believes, he is following the "letter of the law."
More from the New Yorker piece...
David Laufman, a former D.O.J. prosecutor and senior official who has been critical of Trump, defended the search of Mar-a-Lago. “Having conducted and overseen multiple criminal investigations involving the mishandling of classified information, there is nothing unusual about the government executing a search warrant to recover classified material from a location where it is not legally authorized to be,” he said. “The only thing unusual in this case is that the classified material apparently was under the possession and control of a former President of the United States who fancies himself above the law.”
You cannot arrest Trump and say, "those documents were classified and even though he has the power to declassify them, if he didn't exercise that power, he is now a criminal."
I mean, you can say it. But you can't do that and simultaneously fail to investigate Hunter Biden for crack and selling access to his daddy for millions of dollars. Even people who don't read the New York Post might be aware of who Hunter Biden is.
Obviously Trump is a sloppy fucker and it's entirely possible that he took documents without formerly declassifying them first. You want to get your panties in a twist about that while you simultaneously ignore crackhead Hunter and "the big guy" who gets a cut of all his graft?
It's not enough to prove the elements of a crime, numbnuts, you have to pay attention to all the other criminals you're ignoring. People will say, "hey, I wonder if Garland hates Republicans because they kept him off the Supreme Court?" And the way you respond to that is not by trying to prosecute Donald Trump for the moral equivalent of a traffic ticket, but by treating him as irrelevant and out-of-power.
It's no good saying, "I'm following the letter of the law" when you only follow the letter of the law on Infamous Republicans. If you want my respect, arrest fucking Hunter Biden tomorrow. Or at least search his house, moron.
Inga said...
Trump team won’t release FBI warrant for Mar-a-Lago raid as judge weighs motion to unseal it
“Former President Donald Trump reportedly has no plans to publish the search warrant used to raid Mar-a-Lago on Monday — as the judge who approved the search considers a motion to unseal the document.”
Blogger Inga said...
Interesting that Trump could’ve made public his copy of the search warrant and the manifest of what documents were taken by the FBI, but didn’t. Instead he throws all sorts of BS out there for his cultists to eat up.
So, once again we play the game: Is Inga a moron or a liar?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11099205/Eric-Trump-reveals-REALLY-happened-FBI-raid.html
Eric Trump tells DailyMail.com what REALLY happened in FBI raid: President's son says 30 agents REFUSED to hand over warrant, kicked lawyer off property, rifled through clothes - and how Mar-a-Lago staff refused to turn off security cameras
Eric Trump recounted the Monday raid of his father's Mar-a-Lago residence in an exclusive interview with DailyMail.com
He said that they kicked Donald Trump's lawyer Christina Bobb off the property and made her wait at the end of a driveway during the raid
Also said that FBI agents refused to hand over a copy of the search warrant during the operation
Trump can't hand over what he doesn't have
"those documents were classified and even though he has the power to declassify them, if he didn't exercise that power, he is now a criminal."
Why not. Once he is no longer president, who loses the power to de-classify documents. "I forgot" is not a valid defense.
But “I didn’t know any better” was a valid defense for Hillary?
There's testimony that Trump did de-classify the documents. But the ROGUE section of the intelligence community asserts that the President does not have that de-classifying power even though any power any one in the executive branch has is delegated to them by the President according to the Constitution so logically the President must have that power in order to delegate it. Maybe a Constitutional confrontation? Can a member of the executive branch have powers the head of the executive branch does not have? Where did such powers come from? A regulation passed by ROGUE that's never been challenged? Shouldn't it be?
Challenging usurpation of authority is a slow painful process but it is the one used by the Founders like John Adams who was a lawyer. We don't want to saw off the branch we're sitting on, namely, our God-given Constitutionally guaranteed rights by agreeing to their interpretation of the Constitution.
Freder Frederson said...
"those documents were classified and even though he has the power to declassify them, if he didn't exercise that power, he is now a criminal."
Why not. Once he is no longer president, who loses the power to de-classify documents. "I forgot" is not a valid defense.
Except that no one but youdishoenst lefties is claiming that's Trump's defense
Trump's defense is "I declassified them while president"
Unless you can prove otherwise, he's not guilty.
That fact that your;'e not even trying to prove otherwise shows that even you know your argument is garbage
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