June 12, 2022

The "JFK is alive" crowd.

Here's a Daily Beast article: "QAnoners Gather for Big Announcement From JFK Jr., Who Is Dead."

37 comments:

David Begley said...

These are Feds or Dem operatives. No one is THAT STUPID.

Mike Sylwester said...

a big crowd of “what appears to be QAnon believers” gathered in downtown Dallas ahead of an expected announcement by Kennedy at Dealey Plaza later this week. Monacelli even spotted people wearing campaign t-shirts saying: “Trump/JFK JR 2024.” Some QAnoners believe Kennedy faked his own death and is now Q, the anonymous leader of their conspiracy movement.

Try to find the original sources.

* Exactly who said the quoted expression "what appears to be QAnon believers"?

* Exactly which "QAnoners believe Kennedy faked his own death and is now Q"?

Links, please.

Mike Sylwester said...

From the Wikipedia article about QAnon

[Quote]

... On July 15, 2018, Apple pulled the app ...

... On March 14, 2018, Reddit banned one of its communities discussing QAnon ... After that, some followers moved to Discord. Several other communities were formed for discussion of QAnon, leading to further bans on September 12, 2018 ...

... In early 2019, Twitter removed accounts suspected of being connected to the Russian Internet Research Agency that had disseminated a high volume of tweets related to #QAnon ...

... On May 5, 2020, Facebook announced its removal of five pages, 20 accounts, and six groups linked to "individuals associated with the QAnon network" ...

... On July 21, 2020, Twitter announced it was banning more than 7,000 accounts connected to QAnon ...

... Facebook banned all QAnon groups and pages on October 6, 2020. ...

... In an October 12, 2020, interview with CNN, YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki said [YouTube] had reduced views of QAnon-related content by 80%. Three days later, YouTube announced that it had modified its hate and harassment policies to bar [videos] ... such as QAnon ... It would still allow content discussing QAnon if it did not target individuals. ...

... Hashtags and accounts associated with QAnon have since been banned by numerous social networks including Facebook, Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. ...

... the 2021 United States Capitol attack led to a crackdown on QAnon-related content on social media platforms ... Twitter suspended .... QAnon figures the next day. On January 12, Facebook and Twitter announced that they were ... suspending 70,000 QAnon-focused accounts ... More waves of deletions followed on various platforms ...

.... Amazon removed a pro-QAnon book after the Capitol riots, and many platforms took action against QAnon-related content ...

... In May 2021, a report published by the Atlantic Council concluded that QAnon content was "evaporating" from the mainstream web ....

[end quotes]

Where and when did the last QAnon post happen?

Where can I go to read any QAnon post that happened within the past two years?

We now are in June 2022. Link me to a QAnon post after, say, June 2020.

In particular, where can I read any QAnon post about JFK? Exactly what did any such QAnon post say?

Jeff Weimer said...

The only people who hold Qanon in any real esteem are the nutpickers at places like the Daily Beast.

Rollo said...

And if you should survive
To a hundred and five
Look at all you'll derive
Out of being alive!
And here is the best part,
You have a head start
If you are among the very young at heart."


In fairness to the loonies, it is more likely that Junior is still alive than Senior, though maybe Joe I's iron will keeps him going at 130.

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Or, they could just be "useful idiots".

Webster: Definition of useful idiot : a naive or credulous person who can be manipulated or exploited to advance a cause or political agenda.

The same could be true of so called 'Patriot Front'.

Wait... isn't a "front org" like a spying tool?

That would be hilarious if the FBI is fronting (false flagging) these people to attract what they would hope are real domestic terrorists. That was the idea behind the ATF gunwalking operation. The ATF "purposely allowed licensed firearms dealers to sell weapons to illegal straw buyers, hoping to track the guns to Mexican drug cartel leaders and arrest them" - Wikipedia

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Using the red color is to associate them with MAGA.

minnesota farm guy said...

Sounds like someone needed an excuse for a party and this was as good as any.

Not Sure said...

It all makes perfect sense.

The CalNeva Lodge, owned by Frank Sinatra during the Kennedy administration, has been "closed for repairs" since the ultra deep-pocketed Larry Ellison bought it in 2018. JFK and Marilyn have been there ever since, under the supervision of the world's top geriatricians, which is why he's still in great shape at 105.

What about the Addison's disease, you ask? It was discovered in 1964 that a concoction of chamomile tea and mandrake root cures it, but the CIA has kept this hushed up so that the story that JFK is alive seems implausible.

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

deluded... but harmless.

I'm sure the FBI will have them rounded up and killed.

Yancey Ward said...

They instead got a message from Judy Garland.

Big Mike said...

My take on QAnon is that it’s one big joke, directed at the extremely gullible, and especially at the gullible on the left.

ga6 said...

Another group waiting for "the Rapture"?

MSG said...

I never doubted that JFK, Jr. died in that crash and I assume that anyone worth influencing also has had no such doubts. But if anything could make me consider crediting a conspiracy theory to the contrary, it is this article. It is a short article, yet finds it necessary to tell us twice that he is really dead, and even adds this insistence to the headline.

gadfly said...

Mike Sylwester said...
From the Wikipedia article about QAnon


As the Althouse post implies, QAnon-related posts are favorable toward Donald the Grifter. Mike Sylwester apparently prefers the dishonesty of TFG as well. That is why the mysterious Q and his perhaps nonexistent followers of Trump survive on social media sites; everyone should believe that Mafia Don is really doing good things - so attacks on Trump critics must be supported by the MAGA crowd.

Crank believers in John-John's plane crash survival just joined the misdirected Trumpists in order to enlist QAnon supporters to their cause.

Mike Sylwester said...

I have not seen or heard any evidence that any QAnon post is related to the riot at the Capitol Building on January 6, 2021. That is because the last QAnon post had happened many months before that date -- many months before the 2020 election.

======

I spent a significant amount of time studying QAnon. I read QAnon posts, read discussions about the posts and watched videos about the posts.

I am far from being an expert, but I do have a basic understanding of the phenonemon.

Since then, I have observed various people spouting opinions about QAnon, and it's blatantly obvious that they are ignorant about QAnon.

=====

I think, based on indications I saw in at least one QAnon post, that QAnon was Donald Trump's son, Eric Trump. If QAnon was not Eric, then QAnon was someone else very close to Donald Trump. Some people speculate that QAnon was Donald Trump himself.

I think that Donald knew that Eric was doing this hobby, and Donald played along with it. Well before the 2020 election, however, Eric stopped doing this hobby, for various reasons.

The QAnon posts basically reassured that President Trump was governing cleverly and successfully. In particular, Trump would get through the RussiaGate investigation that was being conducted by Robert "The FBI Whitewasher" Mueller and his gang of Trump-hating lawyers.

Furthermore, President Trump's Administration was dealing with some other problems. For example, it was dealing with a sex-trafficking ring that provided underage girls to powerful politicians, celebrities and businessmen. These QAnon posts apparently were about the investigation of Jeffry Epstein.

All the QAnon posts were cryptic. They were like communications from the Delphic Oracle.

QAnon was an interesting, clever and amusing phenomenon. Maybe the mystery will be explained sometime in the future.

=======

The various social-media bans of QAnon are absurd. QAnon never incited any racism, hate, wrong-doing, etc.

The posts were merely Eric Trump's perceptions of what his father was doing as President. Eric concealed his own identity, and he wrote the posts in a cryptic manner.

Trump supporters who looked into the QAnon phenomenon perceived that the posts were pro-Trump, written by someone very close to President Trump -- perhaps by President Trump himself.

M said...

Which side worshipped the Kennedys? Not Republicans. Why would “conservatives” care about a zombie Kennedy ? This doesn’t make any kind of sense

Michael K said...

As the Althouse post implies, QAnon-related posts are favorable toward Donald the Grifter.

Why is it that the only place I hear about QANON is from lefties? Is there room in your head for both Trump and QANON?

Dude1394 said...

Finally someone from QANON. It has to be fake.

Narr said...

Great country, America.

Mike Sylwester said...

Gadfly at 3:04 PM
... QAnon-related posts are favorable toward Donald the Grifter. ... the mysterious Q and his perhaps nonexistent followers of Trump survive on social media sites

Obviously, QAnon posts were favorable toward President Trump. I think all those posts were published by his own son, Eric Trump.

Anyone has been free to dispute any of those posts.

For example, if you dispute that the Trump Administration was investigating a sex ring that trafficked underage girls -- something like Jeffry Epstein's operation -- then go ahead and dispute those posts.

Go ahead and assert that those QAnon posts were just a preposterous "conspiracy theory".

All I ask is that critics of QAnon make an impression that they really do know something about QAnon -- for example, that they have ....

* read some QAnon posts

* read some discussions by people who have read QAnon posts

* watched some videos made by people who have read QAnon posts

Do you, Gadfly, qualify as such a person?

Or are you merely spouting off absolutely ignorant opinions about QAnon?

wendybar said...

"Why is it that the only place I hear about QANON is from lefties? Is there room in your head for both Trump and QANON?"

THIS^^^^

Mike Sylwester said...

It would be optimal if the House Committee could reveal to the public that QAnon was ...

* involved in inciting the January 6 riots

* controlled by President Trump.

However, you will not see any such evidence in the coming days.

======

All the QAnon posts stopped many months before the 2020 election.

All the Big Tech tyrants -- YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Google, etc. -- announced righteously after the January 6 riots that they were banning QAnon posts because of those riots.

However, all the bans had been imposed many months before January 6, 2021.

The real reason why the bans had been imposed was that

* the posts and discussions were pro-Trump

* the Big Tech tyrants were trying to prevent the re-election of Trump.

That's the real story that our Mainstream Media refuses to tell.

Anybody who thinks that QAnon was inciting some wrong-doing is invited, by me here and now, to provide a link to even one such post.

Drago said...

gadfly: "Trump supporters who looked into the QAnon phenomenon perceived that the posts were pro-Trump, written by someone very close to President Trump -- perhaps by President Trump himself."

BlueAnon.

Ever notice how lefties like gadfly keep making all of these bizarre and vague accusations with absolutely nothing backing them up? I suppose someone had to get the "Be Adam Schiff-like on Althouse blog" assignment.

Drago said...

Mike Sylvester: "Anybody who thinks that QAnon was inciting some wrong-doing is invited, by me here and now, to provide a link to even one such post."

You'll be waiting a long time. There have never been any links to this Qanon thing provided by the Althouse lefties like gadfly.

And there never will be.

Achilles said...

gadfly said...

Mike Sylwester said...
From the Wikipedia article about QAnon

As the Althouse post implies, QAnon-related posts are favorable toward Donald the Grifter. Mike Sylwester apparently prefers the dishonesty of TFG as well. That is why the mysterious Q and his perhaps nonexistent followers of Trump survive on social media sites; everyone should believe that Mafia Don is really doing good things - so attacks on Trump critics must be supported by the MAGA crowd.

Crank believers in John-John's plane crash survival just joined the misdirected Trumpists in order to enlist QAnon supporters to their cause.



Notice how Gadfly has to ascribe conspiracy theories that QAnon never actually posted to people he disagrees with in a completely dishonest way.

Gadfly promulgated the Russia conspiracy theory for over 5 years. This idiot has been telling us that Trump worked with Russia to steal the 2016 election for 6 years.

Now we all know that was a complete fabrication by the Regime.

And Gadfly is just moving on to the next lie they feed him.

Gadfly is probably one of the dumbest most gullible people I have seen posting on a forum like this. His posts are just classic dumb.

Meade said...

Q = Jello Biafra
Q.E.D.

Lurker21 said...

This is the idea of the lost king who will return when the country is in trouble to save his people. King Arthur, Harold Godwinson, Owen Redhand, Finn MacCool, Barbarossa. It's obviously not going to happen.

I think Q is sort of "open source." If you want to post something there (if you can find Q Central) it could become part of the Q canon.

Beasts of England said...

’Gadfly is probably one of the dumbest most gullible people I have seen posting on a forum like this.’

What happened to ARM? He coulda been a contenduh!!

farmgirl said...

Wait- where are their tiki torches?
You know- khaki shorts, red shirts- tiki torches??
What?
Wrong conspiracy?

Oooops.
My bad.

farmgirl said...

Jello:
Jell-O shots
Jell-O shot recipes
Jello salad
Jello b….
Found him!!

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

"Notice how Gadfly has to ascribe conspiracy theories that QAnon never actually posted to people he disagrees with in a completely dishonest way."


Yep. That's how Gadfly operates.

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

btw - all sorts on nutty conspiracies pop up that are nothing to do with Q.

But that won't stop the Gadfly left from their dis-info supremacy.

Rockport Conservative said...

Was Elvis there to announce the event?

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

So THESE are the people that Inga was warning us about? LOL how lame.

Wince said...

JFK would be 105.

Must be the Boston chapter of QAnon.

GRW3 said...

While there are some true believers of things like this and the flat earth proposition, I keep having a feeling that most of this is ginned up by the current crop of Merry Pranksters to tug the capes of the swells.