Sean Penn joins Sean Hannity = a previously blind leftist and previously blind rightist actually talk!
Regardless of the Ukraine, this is a positive sign for the reemergence of communication after the fingers-in-the-ears "la la la" political period of the last several years.
Hannity should speak with Oliver Stone -- as his recent documentary slammed Ukraine and presented the Russian side. How does Stone's JFK movie conspiracy talk come across today?
Hannity is on that list of worst interviewers. He comes across to me as a person that is adopting a persona so people will like him. I guess, in short, he hasn't mastered, faking sincerity. I dont listen to him on the radio, or watch his show. For me it's just an emotional response, not ideological.
Sean Penn? He seems all over the board. His splitting of hairs about giving Ukraine supplies at the border, vs in country aide, is some sort of phony line drawing, that he thinks gives him some superior moral position. Wars never give clean lines.
Penn cares so deeply about the topic and so earnestly wants to make his point, that he's willing to be Hannity's prop on the Hannity-only show (the role to which all guests are relegated).
I never cared for Hannity. Didn't Sean Penn smack around Madonna with a baseball bat? Despite that, if it is true, Penn still tried to avoid a fight in that show. And while there wasn't an actual verbal fight, Hannity did try to politicize things and get one up on Penn. This is what Hannity usually does which is why I don't care for him. I thought the most interesting thing was when they started talking about nuclear weapons. While Penn didn't say we should Nuke Russia he did seem to suggest that we must be a credible threat who is willing to use nuclear weapons if necessary. That sounds like a foreign policy that in the past couple generations has been viewed as conservative and right wing.
Hannity makes every question about what he thinks he's said right about an issue in the past, after repeatedly regurgitating what he says he's said in the past each time. "What do you think about what I think? Was I right?"
As if he's unable to frame a question interestingly in the abstract. His routine becomes boring and unpersuasive very quickly.
Hannity is as formulaic as Madow. Two sides of the same coin. There is usually no need to watch either because they are 99% predictable on any topic. The more interesting question to me is, why did Sean Penn choose that particular show as a venue? Appearing on Fox is a cultural death sentence to the left. I think around the fringes I am seeing a realization by some on the left that mistakes have been made, primarily by them, and accounts are about to be balanced. They've taken things goo far and some are trying to scurry back from the brink. Things are being reported ( laptop, Hillary/Collusion, Inflation as a threat, Covid cure collateral damage, etc) that would never have been mentioned a year ago by mainstream press. I am glad to see the monolithic information wall start to break apart. Expect no apologies but welcome even delayed honesty.
Sean Penn needs to hire a smart adviser to weave some sensibility into his tapestry of misconceptions, and teach him how to echo it, he is an actor isn’t he? Can he play a smart person?
Hannity’s prior job before he joined Fox was as a local radio talk show host. He was a buffoon then, but by all accounts, a very nice guy personally liked by people,of all political persuasions.
2 opportunistic monster egos come together to flex.
Sean Penn: "Even countries that have nuclear weapons can remain intimidated to use them and we're seeing that now with our own country and I fear what that legacy is going to be. We don't... no one wants to see a nuclear conflict...at the same time, if only one bully is gonna be able to use those weapons as a threat, we gotta rethink what we're doing." (8:00 - 8:21)
Sean Hannity replies: "See I think the west made a mistake. In this buildup that Putin...as he brought in 10,000 troops and 20,000 and we get up to 100,000 and it became very clear, transparent and obvious he was gonna go in and all the military equipment with it, at that point, I thought NATO countries and western European countries and the US should have anticipated what was pretty obvious and been arming the Ukrainians for that moment and I don't think they were prepared either. Am I wrong?" (8:22 - 8:51)
I think the commenters here are bit harsh towards Hannity. Imagine a hard core right-winger appearing on Scar'bro, Maddow or Lawrence O'Donnell. They would not be afforded an inch and the guest would never finish a sentence. Hannity was gracious towards a political foe.
Two Wrestlemania rivals come together on Jerry Lewis Telethon. put an arm around one another and call in unison for America to stomp Muscular Dystrophy into the mat.
Doesn't it say something to the leftwing media (Narrative-Loyalist leftwing media - CNN & MSNBC (PBS news hour is also pro The Party(D)) (I'm loathe to include that dim bulb Jon Stewart) ) that they won't treat conservative guests with that kind of respect?
Sean Hannity is a neo-con shill and a Republican Establishment moron. After the loss in 2012, he declared the only way the Republican Party could survive was by embracing Amnesty and open borders. During Trump he would latch on to "Trump Russia" or "Hillary' Emails" and talk about that all day.
Now he's for dropping nukes on Moscow, and letting our Southern Border go unguarded. He's big friends with Lindsey graham. A complete Idiot.
Sean Hannity exists because the Right wing medial talent pool is so small, and the range of opinion allowed by the Corporate owners is so narrow. Ann Coulter should have her own show. Mark Styen should have his own show. Even Nick Fuentes - a racist - should have his own show. And so should Glenn Greenwald. That's if the media were interested in ideas and lively debate - which they are not.
But Tucker carlson is about as wild as it gets. Hannity fits right in because he's a safe and predictable Republican who will say nothing Senator Cotton or Kevin McCarthy wouldn't say.
Achilles the Putin Stooge hates the idea of money gushing into our domestic oil industry right now. Trump tried to kill domestic production in conjunction with Saudi Arabia and the Stalinist Union.
"Achilles the Putin Stooge hates the idea of money gushing into our domestic oil industry right now."
I think you spelled Biden wrong, but apparently you believe whatever MSNBC tells you, no matter how many lies they have been proven to have told, so no point arguing.
Achilles the Putin Stooge hates the idea of money gushing into our domestic oil industry right now. Trump tried to kill domestic production in conjunction with Saudi Arabia and the Stalinist Union.
You can keep spewing out your stupid lies Howard. Everyone knows they are lies. Even you.
Although it is nice to see you have finally admitted you are an ally of the Oligarchs that own the Oil Companies.
That money is flowing into the oil industry because Gas is over 4$ a gallon nationally and the working class is getting destroyed.
I know you have nothing except to call me a Putin Stooge. Putin is getting rich off of $100+ a barrel of oil too.
You are just a dumb piece of shit and everyone can see right through you.
Ukraine war The Ukraine has won a remarkable victory in the north as shown in the two maps below.. This is due to the resolve and smarts Sean Penn saw. But it is also due to weapons sent in by whoevee as Hannity was pointing out. I think Sean Penn came on Hannity to say this senetnce (approx) "You could load a truck with needed supplies and drive it the border and hand it over to the Ukranians and they would do the rest." I think he knows Rachel Maddow's audience would not ever do that but Hannity's might. And I think Penn is so devoured by what he saw in the Ukraine that he is willing to make the ultimate sacrifice and speak politely to Hannity if it would help the Ukraine.
War as of March 15. Red shows territory taken in Russian advances. https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/DraftUkraineCoTMarch12%2C2022.png
War as of April 5. Blue shows territory taken back by Ukraine; red shows territory still held by the invaders. The areas around Kiev and the northern and north-eastern border are cleared of Russians or are clearing. The southern and south-eastern border is the remaining area of conflict. This is where the war might go on "for a long time," as General Mark Milley says, in the sense that the Ukraine will not accept Russian control but might not have enough planes and tanks to win at once. https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/DraftUkraineCoTApril5%2C2022.png
People fail to recognize the strategic importance of a healthy functioning domestic petroleum industry that requires high noil prices. They prefer markets favored to benefit autocratic producers whose production costs are a fraction of US costs. Then we will hear complaints that US costs are too high because we don't shit on the environment and insure relative safety of our front line Blue Collar workers.
Sean Penn is a perfect example of the truism: NEVER TRUST THE LIBERALS.
One minute, crying about dead babies, the horror of war, and why he USA needs to stay out or make peace and STOP THE KILLING.
next minute, war to knife. Bomb 'em back to the stoneage those damn [insert current leftwing hate figures]! Oh, and Nuclear war, toe to toe with the Russkies. Yee haw!
Hannity apparently thinks we should pass out nuclear weapons to corrupt, third-world would-be client states. Proxy wars aren't enough anymore? Now we need a proxy nuclear war?
Does he think Ukraine should nuke their own territory? Or does he think they could've prevented war by lobbing a nuke over the border into Russia and killing 100,000 Russian soldiers in their own country...with a nuke we provided? Yeah, that would end well.
People fail to recognize the strategic importance of a healthy functioning domestic petroleum industry that requires high noil prices. They prefer markets favored to benefit autocratic producers whose production costs are a fraction of US costs. Then we will hear complaints that US costs are too high because we don't shit on the environment and insure relative safety of our front line Blue Collar workers.
The Biden Regime drove up the costs of prospecting and extraction through regulation and executive fiat. He is begging for Canadian Oil but wont allow the Keystone Pipeline to be built. He is still telling the banks to limit lending to prospecting companies and exploration activities.
The big oil companies love it when the government squashes their competition and makes it more expensive to drill for oil.
They love high gas prices just as much as Putin and Saudi Arabia love high oil/gas prices.
This is so stupid and dishonest. You are such a piece of shit.
You people have an awesome grasp of the political talking points you've been fed.
Why do you cucks hate North Dakota roughnecks?
Oil Boom Remakes N. Dakota County With Fastest Growth in US The fastest-growing county in the U.S. is in the oil fields of North Dakota. By Associated Press Wire Service Content • Sept. 5, 2021, at 9:24 a.m.
Isn’t Sean Hannity the guy who told Trump “no more stolen election talk” and “no more crazy people” on January 6? Of course he’s untrustworthy: In the end he’s on the same side as the Deep State.
One of the prices of a free republic is that raving loonies show up from time to time who make Screaming Lord Sutch and the Monster Raving Loony Party seem sensible by comparison.
Adly-say, Oward-hay is uch-say a aving-ray utter-nay.
Hannity is smart enough that he could buy e buy every single anonymous internet stooge here calling him a moron. Not a fan so much myself, but facts is facts.
He has had some unicorns killed recently. He looks very sad. Something neurological has happened to his voice. His motor control and nervous system appear off.
I think he realizes that the people he has supported in the Regime are not good people.
He also really believes in the Ukrainian people. But he is personalizing them unlike the people of Iraq and the Women in Afghanistan who had the same aspirations he ascribes to the Ukrainians.
If you supported withdrawing from Iraq and Afghanistan but you support going to war in Ukraine you are really just racist at your core.
The cognitive dissonance is starting to weigh him down.
"Howard said: "Trump tried to kill domestic production in conjunction with Saudi Arabia and the Stalinist Union."
^^^^ Exhibit A as to why it is fruitless to debate lefties."
Actually that's just Exhibit A as to why it is fruitless to argue with Howard. He isn't trying to make real reasoned arguments (his insistence that high oil prices are a good thing because they support a domestic oil industry is proof of that), he's just saying stupid shit to win stupid prizes. He doesn't have a real political philosophy beyond "what can I say this time to piss people off."
A true leftist (though he might argue he isn't one) like Robert Cook can be engaged with. He will argue in good faith and take your argument at face value. If he doesn't agree with you, he will tell you why without calling you a shit head.
@Chris, while you are correct that Mr. Cook does argue in good faith, it's been my experience there are 100 Howards on left for every reasonable Mr. Cook.
The price of kerosene yesterday was 6.92$. Took quite a jump. I was told Biden talking war drove that price up b/c jet fuel is made from kerosene?? Bwdik.
I have no idea what jibberish “Trump tried to shut down domestic …” Ahhhh. Thank you, Chris Lopes.
It seems a lucid, valid exchange. Whatever their character, they converse well- I don’t see the problem. Granted, I don’t watch tv news unless clips are put up on the blogs I frequent.
I think to be present at the beginning of a war- in a country that one day is at peace and is attacked the next- it’s a shock. Especially for a person like Penn. An actor, wealthy, pampered. Boom. Chaos.
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I watched it. Things improved from there, and it was an interesting discussion, despite Hannity’s buffoonery.
That means a lot coming from a guy that thinks Hugo Chavez is a great leader and has done wonderful things for Venezuela.
Thanks to Sean Penn, Mexico was able to recapture El Chapo.
Why would another hiding man, Zelensky, trust Sean Penn?
I can’t listen to Hannity btw.
Even though I am a conservative, I am not a fan of Hannity. Having said that, that was a very good interview. They treated each other with respect.
Note at the end when asked why he didn't trust Hannity, Penn was at a loss for words.
I don't trust Commie lovers. (and actors who think they know more than everyone else)
Sean Penn joins Sean Hannity = a previously blind leftist and previously blind rightist actually talk!
Regardless of the Ukraine, this is a positive sign for the reemergence of communication after the fingers-in-the-ears "la la la" political period of the last several years.
Hannity should speak with Oliver Stone -- as his recent documentary slammed Ukraine and presented the Russian side. How does Stone's JFK movie conspiracy talk come across today?
Hannity is on that list of worst interviewers. He comes across to me as a person that is adopting a persona so people will like him. I guess, in short, he hasn't mastered, faking sincerity.
I dont listen to him on the radio, or watch his show. For me it's just an emotional response, not ideological.
Sean Penn? He seems all over the board. His splitting of hairs about giving Ukraine supplies at the border, vs in country aide, is some sort of phony line drawing, that he thinks gives him some superior moral position. Wars never give clean lines.
Penn cares so deeply about the topic and so earnestly wants to make his point, that he's willing to be Hannity's prop on the Hannity-only show (the role to which all guests are relegated).
I never cared for Hannity. Didn't Sean Penn smack around Madonna with a baseball bat? Despite that, if it is true, Penn still tried to avoid a fight in that show. And while there wasn't an actual verbal fight, Hannity did try to politicize things and get one up on Penn. This is what Hannity usually does which is why I don't care for him. I thought the most interesting thing was when they started talking about nuclear weapons. While Penn didn't say we should Nuke Russia he did seem to suggest that we must be a credible threat who is willing to use nuclear weapons if necessary. That sounds like a foreign policy that in the past couple generations has been viewed as conservative and right wing.
Nice to see not all of Fox News is a mouthpiece for Putin's Stalinist Union.
Hannity is lost since he can no longer crib off of Rush.
Hannity makes every question about what he thinks he's said right about an issue in the past, after repeatedly regurgitating what he says he's said in the past each time. "What do you think about what I think? Was I right?"
As if he's unable to frame a question interestingly in the abstract. His routine becomes boring and unpersuasive very quickly.
Hannity is as formulaic as Madow. Two sides of the same coin. There is usually no need to watch either because they are 99% predictable on any topic. The more interesting question to me is, why did Sean Penn choose that particular show as a venue? Appearing on Fox is a cultural death sentence to the left. I think around the fringes I am seeing a realization by some on the left that mistakes have been made, primarily by them, and accounts are about to be balanced. They've taken things goo far and some are trying to scurry back from the brink. Things are being reported ( laptop, Hillary/Collusion, Inflation as a threat, Covid cure collateral damage, etc) that would never have been mentioned a year ago by mainstream press. I am glad to see the monolithic information wall start to break apart. Expect no apologies but welcome even delayed honesty.
Sean Penn needs to hire a smart adviser to weave some sensibility into his tapestry of misconceptions, and teach him how to echo it, he is an actor isn’t he? Can he play a smart person?
Chris said...
That means a lot coming from a guy that thinks Hugo Chavez is a great leader and has done wonderful things for Venezuela.
This is exactly what the Biden Regime is doing here.
Destroying the oil industry. Raiding the treasury to pay off cronies. Censorship. Political violence.
The democrat party is just following the Chavez/Maduro playbook.
Howard said...
Nice to see not all of Fox News is a mouthpiece for Putin's Stalinist Union.
Nice to see Howard is as stupid and dishonest as ever.
Hannity’s prior job before he joined Fox was as a local radio talk show host. He was a buffoon then, but by all accounts, a very nice guy personally liked by people,of all political persuasions.
Humperdink said...
Note at the end when asked why he didn't trust Hannity, Penn was at a loss for words.
That is because Penn doesn't understand why he is where he is.
I do not trust Hannity either. I do not think Hannity believes a word coming out of his own mouth.
The problem for Penn is he thinks he has to believe one side or the other. He is not willing to accept the world is grey.
There are no good guys in this conflict.
Only idiots think the morality play we are being presented is accurate.
2 opportunistic monster egos come together to flex.
Sean Penn: "Even countries that have nuclear weapons can remain intimidated to use them and we're seeing that now with our own country and I fear what that legacy is going to be. We don't... no one wants to see a nuclear conflict...at the same time, if only one bully is gonna be able to use those weapons as a threat, we gotta rethink what we're doing." (8:00 - 8:21)
Sean Hannity replies: "See I think the west made a mistake. In this buildup that Putin...as he brought in 10,000 troops and 20,000 and we get up to 100,000 and it became very clear, transparent and obvious he was gonna go in and all the military equipment with it, at that point, I thought NATO countries and western European countries and the US should have anticipated what was pretty obvious and been arming the Ukrainians for that moment and I don't think they were prepared either. Am I wrong?" (8:22 - 8:51)
Insanity.
I think the commenters here are bit harsh towards Hannity. Imagine a hard core right-winger appearing on Scar'bro, Maddow or Lawrence O'Donnell. They would not be afforded an inch and the guest would never finish a sentence. Hannity was gracious towards a political foe.
Penn also thinks the US should give Ukraine F-16s.
Which they can’t fly.
Two Wrestlemania rivals come together on Jerry Lewis Telethon. put an arm around one another and call in unison for America to stomp Muscular Dystrophy into the mat.
Doesn't it say something to the leftwing media (Narrative-Loyalist leftwing media - CNN & MSNBC (PBS news hour is also pro The Party(D)) (I'm loathe to include that dim bulb Jon Stewart) ) that they won't treat conservative guests with that kind of respect?
Show title: Dumb and Dumber
Sean Hannity is a neo-con shill and a Republican Establishment moron. After the loss in 2012, he declared the only way the Republican Party could survive was by embracing Amnesty and open borders. During Trump he would latch on to "Trump Russia" or "Hillary' Emails" and talk about that all day.
Now he's for dropping nukes on Moscow, and letting our Southern Border go unguarded. He's big friends with Lindsey graham. A complete Idiot.
Sean Hannity exists because the Right wing medial talent pool is so small, and the range of opinion allowed by the Corporate owners is so narrow. Ann Coulter should have her own show. Mark Styen should have his own show. Even Nick Fuentes - a racist - should have his own show. And so should Glenn Greenwald. That's if the media were interested in ideas and lively debate - which they are not.
But Tucker carlson is about as wild as it gets. Hannity fits right in because he's a safe and predictable Republican who will say nothing Senator Cotton or Kevin McCarthy wouldn't say.
Achilles the Putin Stooge hates the idea of money gushing into our domestic oil industry right now. Trump tried to kill domestic production in conjunction with Saudi Arabia and the Stalinist Union.
Trusted the druglord though. What a DF
"Achilles the Putin Stooge hates the idea of money gushing into our domestic oil industry right now."
I think you spelled Biden wrong, but apparently you believe whatever MSNBC tells you, no matter how many lies they have been proven to have told, so no point arguing.
Howard said...
Achilles the Putin Stooge hates the idea of money gushing into our domestic oil industry right now. Trump tried to kill domestic production in conjunction with Saudi Arabia and the Stalinist Union.
You can keep spewing out your stupid lies Howard. Everyone knows they are lies. Even you.
Although it is nice to see you have finally admitted you are an ally of the Oligarchs that own the Oil Companies.
That money is flowing into the oil industry because Gas is over 4$ a gallon nationally and the working class is getting destroyed.
I know you have nothing except to call me a Putin Stooge. Putin is getting rich off of $100+ a barrel of oil too.
You are just a dumb piece of shit and everyone can see right through you.
"Trump tried to kill domestic production in conjunction with Saudi Arabia and the Stalinist Union."
This is so stupid it's not even wrong.
I caught a minute or so before I switched channels.
1. I was very surprised to see him on Fox, let alone Hannity.
2. He looks terrible.
3. As crazy, loony, lefty as he is, he is a terrific actor.
Ukraine war
The Ukraine has won a remarkable victory in the north as shown in the two maps below.. This is due to the resolve and smarts Sean Penn saw. But it is also due to weapons sent in by whoevee as Hannity was pointing out. I think Sean Penn came on Hannity to say this senetnce (approx) "You could load a truck with needed supplies and drive it the border and hand it over to the Ukranians and they would do the rest." I think he knows Rachel Maddow's audience would not ever do that but Hannity's might. And I think Penn is so devoured by what he saw in the Ukraine that he is willing to make the ultimate sacrifice and speak politely to Hannity if it would help the Ukraine.
War as of March 15. Red shows territory taken in Russian advances.
https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/DraftUkraineCoTMarch12%2C2022.png
War as of April 5. Blue shows territory taken back by Ukraine; red shows territory still held by the invaders. The areas around Kiev and the northern and north-eastern border are cleared of Russians or are clearing. The southern and south-eastern border is the remaining area of conflict. This is where the war might go on "for a long time," as General Mark Milley says, in the sense that the Ukraine will not accept Russian control but might not have enough planes and tanks to win at once.
https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/DraftUkraineCoTApril5%2C2022.png
People fail to recognize the strategic importance of a healthy functioning domestic petroleum industry that requires high noil prices. They prefer markets favored to benefit autocratic producers whose production costs are a fraction of US costs. Then we will hear complaints that US costs are too high because we don't shit on the environment and insure relative safety of our front line Blue Collar workers.
I don't trust Sean.
Howard said: "Trump tried to kill domestic production in conjunction with Saudi Arabia and the Stalinist Union."
^^^^ Exhibit A as to why it is fruitless to debate lefties.
I thought Sean Penn did ok there.
Make up your mind, dude. Is he going to shit or is he going to kill us?
Sean Penn is a perfect example of the truism: NEVER TRUST THE LIBERALS.
One minute, crying about dead babies, the horror of war, and why he USA needs to stay out or make peace and STOP THE KILLING.
next minute, war to knife. Bomb 'em back to the stoneage those damn [insert current leftwing hate figures]! Oh, and Nuclear war, toe to toe with the Russkies. Yee haw!
You gotta give Morons like Sean Hannity credit for consistency. He's ALWAYS for War.
Prof did what I didn't. Neither of those guys has ever impressed me much, but that was less painful and repulsive than it might have been.
"Give them the tools and they will finish the job." A slogan for a new war.
Hannity apparently thinks we should pass out nuclear weapons to corrupt, third-world would-be client states. Proxy wars aren't enough anymore? Now we need a proxy nuclear war?
Does he think Ukraine should nuke their own territory?
Or does he think they could've prevented war by lobbing a nuke over the border into Russia and killing 100,000 Russian soldiers in their own country...with a nuke we provided? Yeah, that would end well.
Where are the peacemakers?
I should add the current administration's de facto leader is a 2009 Nobel Peace Prize winner.
Penn's performance in "The Professor and the Madman" was excellent. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5932728/
Howard said...
People fail to recognize the strategic importance of a healthy functioning domestic petroleum industry that requires high noil prices. They prefer markets favored to benefit autocratic producers whose production costs are a fraction of US costs. Then we will hear complaints that US costs are too high because we don't shit on the environment and insure relative safety of our front line Blue Collar workers.
The Biden Regime drove up the costs of prospecting and extraction through regulation and executive fiat. He is begging for Canadian Oil but wont allow the Keystone Pipeline to be built. He is still telling the banks to limit lending to prospecting companies and exploration activities.
The big oil companies love it when the government squashes their competition and makes it more expensive to drill for oil.
They love high gas prices just as much as Putin and Saudi Arabia love high oil/gas prices.
This is so stupid and dishonest. You are such a piece of shit.
We were sitting down to dinner and I saw this begin. Immediately switched to National Geographic.
Throughout the mid 80s, Sean Penn notoriously committed violence against reporters, songwriters, and extras. Not slaps, serious assault.
Throughout the mid 90s and into the 00s, Sean Penn was nominated for five Best Actor Academy Awards, and won two.
Should Will Smith choose to argue that the Academy is selective in their outrage, Sean Penn will be a prime exhibit.
Blogger Howard said...
Trump tried to kill domestic production in conjunction with Saudi Arabia and the Stalinist Union.
Back to your meds, please. For your own good.
You people have an awesome grasp of the political talking points you've been fed.
Why do you cucks hate North Dakota roughnecks?
Oil Boom Remakes N. Dakota County With Fastest Growth in US
The fastest-growing county in the U.S. is in the oil fields of North Dakota.
By Associated Press Wire Service Content • Sept. 5, 2021, at 9:24 a.m.
Isn’t Sean Hannity the guy who told Trump “no more stolen election talk” and “no more crazy people” on January 6? Of course he’s untrustworthy: In the end he’s on the same side as the Deep State.
One of the prices of a free republic is that raving loonies show up from time to time who make
Screaming Lord Sutch and the Monster Raving Loony Party seem sensible by comparison.
Adly-say, Oward-hay is uch-say a aving-ray utter-nay.
"I don't trust you." Gee, I'd be heartbroken, myself.
Trump tried to kill domestic production in conjunction with Saudi Arabia and the Stalinist Union.
That has to be the stupidest thing you've ever written. And that's drawing from a very deep pool.
Hannity is smart enough that he could buy e buy every single anonymous internet stooge here calling him a moron. Not a fan so much myself, but facts is facts.
Sean Penn doesn't trust me?
That's going on my resume!!
So Watching Penn.
He has had some unicorns killed recently. He looks very sad. Something neurological has happened to his voice. His motor control and nervous system appear off.
I think he realizes that the people he has supported in the Regime are not good people.
He also really believes in the Ukrainian people. But he is personalizing them unlike the people of Iraq and the Women in Afghanistan who had the same aspirations he ascribes to the Ukrainians.
If you supported withdrawing from Iraq and Afghanistan but you support going to war in Ukraine you are really just racist at your core.
The cognitive dissonance is starting to weigh him down.
"Howard said: "Trump tried to kill domestic production in conjunction with Saudi Arabia and the Stalinist Union."
^^^^ Exhibit A as to why it is fruitless to debate lefties."
Actually that's just Exhibit A as to why it is fruitless to argue with Howard. He isn't trying to make real reasoned arguments (his insistence that high oil prices are a good thing because they support a domestic oil industry is proof of that), he's just saying stupid shit to win stupid prizes. He doesn't have a real political philosophy beyond "what can I say this time to piss people off."
A true leftist (though he might argue he isn't one) like Robert Cook can be engaged with. He will argue in good faith and take your argument at face value. If he doesn't agree with you, he will tell you why without calling you a shit head.
I've been told by a leftist that Texas has enough oil to supply the world for over 100 years.
@Chris, while you are correct that Mr. Cook does argue in good faith, it's been my experience there are 100 Howards on left for every reasonable Mr. Cook.
The price of kerosene yesterday was 6.92$. Took quite a jump. I was told Biden talking war drove that price up b/c jet fuel is made from kerosene?? Bwdik.
I have no idea what jibberish “Trump tried to shut down domestic …” Ahhhh.
Thank you, Chris Lopes.
It seems a lucid, valid exchange. Whatever their character, they converse well- I don’t see the problem.
Granted, I don’t watch tv news unless clips are put up on the blogs I frequent.
I think to be present at the beginning of a war- in a country that one day is at peace and is attacked the next- it’s a shock. Especially for a person like Penn. An actor, wealthy, pampered. Boom. Chaos.
Maybe there is hope.
So Penn don't trust 'em.... boo hoo hoo...
But why would we trust a hack that does photo ops in Venezuela handing out water for 10 min and then going back to his party with his Communist buddy.
Penn's performance in "The Professor and the Madman" was excellent.
Sean Penn and Mel Gibson? Both make good madmen. Not sure I'd want either professor.
Sean Penn looks like he's been living in a cardboard box under and overpass and getting run over by a truck or something.
Hannity's about the same age, but must have a much better skin care routine.
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