Noah had criticised West while presenting The Daily Show, saying of West’s numerous recent posts about ex-wife Kim Kardashian: “What she’s going through is terrifying to watch … What we’re seeing is one of the most powerful, one of the richest women in the world, unable to get her ex to stop texting her, to stop chasing after her, to stop harassing her.”
West responded by rewriting the lyrics of Kumbaya to “koon baya my lord”, a twist on a word used by some to describe a Black person who rejects or undermines their own ethnicity.
I don't think The Guardian is explaining the offensive term correctly. Compare this essay from the Jim Crow Museum.
But I think you can tell that West was arguing that Noah's advice — to adopt a peaceful nonthreatening demeanor — is racist. Noah himself is black, and West is mocking him for being black while telling a black man not to manifest anger.
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Kanye West suspended from Instagram for 1 day, but will only end up serving 6 hours.
'...unable to get her ex to stop texting her...'
Maybe the grotesquely disfigured KK can get one of her people to block Ye's number.
One more K and she'd be racist AF.
They never seemed to have a problem with his brandishing of confederate flags but that was back in 2013, or so. I had read a similar headline elsewhere and thought the suspension was due to his harassment of Pete Davidson, which is an obvious and effective publicity ploy.
It is fascinating, I've seen this referenced in multiple places, but only here is it explained what actually happened. Most articles imply that he was suspended for threatening behavior to Kim K. If anything, this is worse! He could be threatening to Kim K. all day long, only when he said something viewed as racist did he finally get a halt order
The Jim Crow Museum essay was interesting. Thank you.
Kevin said...
Most articles imply that he was suspended for threatening behavior to Kim K.
Rolling Stone is reporting that the suspension is about his posting the claymation video of him decapitating Kim's boyfriend Pete Davidson.
. These people are vile. The lot. Stupid vain and vile. Contaminating a generation pining to be stupid vain and vile.
The point of "slur" is to assert that it's so horrible that it can't even be reported.
It isn't horrible, it's just a feature of language. Not even a bug. Free speech and mot juste.
RideSpaceMountain wins the internet! But only for twenty hours.
"What's a day?" Could be time off for good behavior (i.e., 23 hour spring forward) day, or the relatively punishing 25 hour (fall back) day. Its all up to the mercurial Judge Rubio.
Twitter banning would get busy if they banned those who used the slur "Uncle Tom".
"But I think you can tell that West was arguing that Noah's advice — to adopt a peaceful nonthreatening demeanor — is racist."
Is that what you think? You don't think Kanye West is maybe just bat-shit crazy and not real bright, with effectively nonexistent impulse control? And Kim Kardashian is wishing she'd had better taste in scam artists? And Trevor Noah is savoring all the clicks, but hoping to God he doesn't meet up with the asshole in an airport somewhere? So much vibrancy!
Regardless of the circumstances, it's whitey's fault.
""Kanye West suspended from Instagram after slur against Trevor Noah" — but only for 1 day."
So, Kanye gets the Jussie Smollett sentence from Instagram?
I read the essay with some interest. Such caricatures were common. I'm an old man and I can remember seeing them. They were demeaning and ugly and indefensible. I would add, however, that as caricatures go, they weren't the worst. Look at caricatures of Jews, and not just during the Nazi era. I've seen 19th century English cartoons of Disraeli that are quite something....Caricatures by their very nature are hostile and demeaning. Old cartoons of the Irish generally depict a blunt faced, somewhat baboonish figure in ragged clothes with a pipe clenched combatively in his teeth. How ridiculous. Everyone knows that the typical Irishman looks like Tyrone Power or Colin Farrell except taller.....During WWII, the caricatures of the Germans and especially the Japanese depicted vile people that you just wanted to burn to a crisp.....Then there were those early Bolshevik cartoons. Look at the way they depicted their various enemies. While not quite as hateful as the current Washington Post caricatures of Republicans, those caricatures were over the top and designed to inspire a murderous hatred....If I were ranking the hatefulness of the different caricatures I've seen, I wouldn't put the blackface minstrel one in even the top fifty percent. It was, however, far more pervasive and durable than those other caricatures.
If the Jim Crow essay mentioned "Amos and Andy" I missed it. Seems like an easy link.
This story (I only know what Prof shows us) strikes me as some macho posturing on the part of a couple of wimps--one the cad, the other the gallant.
Downright retro.
I've never looked, but I have a suspicion that some black people call other black people the N-word all the time on Instagram. If I'm right, are they getting one day suspensions every time they do so?
Trevor is actually of mixed "race" extraction and grew up in another country and culture. He tends to project an air of distain for his adopted country and culture which West probably finds kind of offensive.
That being said, Noah is correct in calling West out. West is wrong in using a racial slur (which was/is used by whites to describe black people) to describe him. The Twitter gang is just confused because no one in this situation is white.
Of course, the suspension will result in the comment garnering more attention - the Streisand Effect.
Friendly fire= blue on blue
Unfriendly fire = black on black.
I wonder if Kayne West really thinks of Noah as black. Noah is a Half-white south African. He's not from "the hood".
Jamie said...
The Jim Crow Museum essay was interesting. Thank you."
Agree.
Hutu vs Tutsi. Mandela's Xhosa vs Zulu. Kenyan elite vs deplorables. All forced progress through a conflation of diversity, competing interests, public spectacles, personal relationships, and empathetic appeal.
Black on black on blackety black. Black holes... whores, too. h/t NAACP
but will only end up serving 6 hours.
A hate crime is not a hate crime when it is politically incongruent, thus the progress of diversity and Skapebabies for social justice.
Noah is biracial. He's whiter than most of his countrymen.
His show is probably better in the original Xhosa.
Kanye, you're better off without her.
"Before its death, the coon developed into the most blatantly degrading of all black stereotypes. The pure coons emerged as no-account niggers, those unreliable, crazy, lazy, subhuman creatures good for nothing more than eating watermelons, stealing chickens, shooting crap, or butchering the English language."
Wait, can they say that? Ain't that ray-ciss?
I don't like people picking on Kanye. Watch him on Joe Rogan 1.45 year ago. Kim seems to like broken/nutty artists. More Instagram clickthroughs. G800's don't float on water.
Last time I checked, Ye is black.
He can call Noah any damn thing he wants, including every variation of N...
I'd pay to watch Steve Buscemi feed the lot of them into a wood chipper.
Isn’t Pete Davidson an oppressed, marginalized “neurodiverse” person, or something?
Also, did Kanye really get a full one day suspension without tweeting “I am not suicidal!!!”?
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