"... followed by these two sentences: 'Those emails were obtained by The New York Times from a cache of files that appears to have come from a laptop abandoned by Mr. Biden in a Delaware repair shop. The email and others in the cache were authenticated by people familiar with them and with the investigation.' Heart be still. It took the Gray Lady nearly 17 months to grudgingly concede even a fraction of what New York Post readers learned in October 2020. Of course, Times readers would have learned all that too if their paper was still in the news business instead of being a running dog for Democrats...."
Writes Michael Goodwin in "The New York Times hates to say The Post told you so" (NY Post).
MEANWHILE: "It’s sad, because the baby looks like him, with blond hair," said the lawyer for Lunden Roberts, quoted in "Lawyer for mother of Hunter Biden’s child says he expects president’s son to be indicted" (NY Post).
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We'll know the NYT is serious, and Biden in real trouble, when your beloved newspaper of record deals with the following:
"Here’s an idea: Why doesn’t it let Ken Vogel, one of three reporters on Thursday’s story, write what he knows. Bobulinski told Vogel the “big guy” email was authentic in October 2020, but the Times has never seen fit to print it.
And what’s the Times going to do about the email where Hunter complains to his daughter that his father takes half of his income from him? Or the one where a partner on other deals, Eric Schwerin, writes that he moves money between Hunter and Joe’s checking accounts?
So maybe the big guy didn’t just lie about never discussing his son’s business. Maybe he was getting a cut all along."
As my elite lefty libtard college professor son says about the Biden crime family, this is what you get when you keep electing white trash to high office.
The NYT has turned on Joe.
What will the media do if Hunter Biden is indicted?
They will, of course, wish deeply that they could ignore it altogether, but that will be hard given that he's the son of the sitting president. My guess is that they will completely ignore that merits of the case and instead sing the praises of Biden for being so dedicated to truth, justice, and the American way that he would allow his own son to be prosecuted. No one is above the law, don't cha know?
Joe's business ties to Hunter will be ignored at all costs.
“Me, I romp and stomping
Thankful as I romp
Without freedom of speech
I might be in the swamp”
And, sadly, even Donald Trump
Won’t be able to save Bob D
It’ll take every last one of us
To drain that stinking swamp
Conspiracy theories over the last few years remain undefeated, and those warning about disinformation are merely projecting. I eagerly await the reckoning. Good and hard.
Durham is looking into that laptop. Maybe that investigation is lagit.
Just a reminder that the article by the NY Post about this laptops and it's contents, apparently obtained legally now, was broadly banned. It would unable to be shared or talked about on facebook, twitter, or other spheres. It was banned by MSM on their platforms. If you direct messaged about it on twitter, your DM was removed and your account was threatened or locked.
Much like today if you share a peer-reviewed journal article about Ivermectin, for example.
My point is this: These companies have become evil towards speech.
The lap top wasn't really real until the NYT said so? Is that where we're at?
Because it sure seems like that's exactly what the right wing/conservative chattering class is saying.
The NYT is 'fake news' up to and until they publish something agreeable. I can't think of a better example of Gell=Mann amnesia.
So what now? Conservative Inc. big mad libs lied (again, still) to win an election. Don't forget to donate so they win the next election and hold people "accountable".
Why was Hunter Biden, a brain-damaged crack-addict, hired onto the Board of Directors of Ukraine's largest natural-gas company?
Hunter Biden was hired because the Ukrainian Government was a puppet of the US Government.
Hunter Biden's father was the Obama Administration's "point man on Ukraine". Therefore, Ukraine had to pay Hunter Biden $85,000 a month for a no-show job.
That is what a puppet government has to do.
If Vice President Joe Biden ordered the Ukraine Government to fire its Attorney General within two hours, then that puppet government fired its Attorney General that quickly.
That is what a puppet government has to do.
While it is gratifying to see the NYT’s acknowledge reality in the matter of Hunter Biden’s laptop and all its gory emails; the question remains, will the readers of the NYT’s acknowledge the reality that the Biden family is a crime family? It’s not just Hunter, Joe Biden brother and other family members are just as corrupt and amoral as Hunter and the “Big Guy”.
They missed the Ides of March by a few days, but the knives are out for Joe. Et tu, Hillaria?
Beautiful little girl, probably the best thing that Hunter ever produced. It's to the child's benefit that both Hunter and Slow Joe give their word as Bidens that she doesn't exist.
Remember when Rudy took that laptop to the Delaware State Police and they reported him to the FBI for spreading Russian disinformation? Don't worry though, they are not lying to you now about Russia!
Of course a lot of Biden apologists in denial forget that the FBI had the laptop way before Rudy ever got his hands on it, and just sat on it and pretend that it's child's play to insert fake content after the fact (it's not) or that a crack head could never leave a laptop behind in a repair shop and forget about it.
It had a sticker on it from the "Beau Biden Foundation," which is no doubt a money laundering operation, like the Clinton Foundation.
So the NYTines, Facebook, Twitter, google ALL conspired to get a cabbage elected. That is a FACT.
So at this time anything those entities state is first a lie that must be prove . Everything.
They have even won pulitzers for a political Russia, Russia, Russia smear job.
They are never to be trusted and must be replaced.
Reported here in a single post as news only, conspicuously lacking editorial comment by an editor dedicated to helping NYT 'do better'...
Ukraine has a puppet government
We have a puppet president
Get ready for President Harris!
furthermore said oligarch kolomoisky, presided over the looting of the privat bank, to the tune of 6 billion dollars, this is the earth quake that turned out poroshenko, since then kolomoisky has abandoned funding both the azov brigade and zelensky, however still owns half the rada (their parliament)
You didn't need the letter to know that Biden was a bad deal.
"The lap top wasn't really real until the NYT said so? Is that where we're at?
Because it sure seems like that's exactly what the right wing/conservative chattering class is saying."
Uh, no, that's not where we're at. Those of us who can read and comprehend the English language knew that the laptop was Hunter's. What new (and news) is that the mainstream media are not almost but not quite admitting it was Huneter's all along. Gell-Mann doesn't apply when a corrupt media establishment does a 180 turn away from what it vigorously reported previously and now oh-so-gently hints at admitting what it absolutely and vigorously denied being true.
"It’ll take every last one of us/To drain that stinking swamp"
You just need a winch and a chain>
Meade is a Putin sock puppet
New York Times' reporters worked hard- hard I tell you- to obtain those e-mails.
Wake me when the folks at MSNBC and CNN report on this please. They did the real damage over the last few years by being the echo chamber megaphone. If the cable and broadcast networks don't report it, it gets buried. People don't ready the NYT but an article in the NYT that gets magnified but TV/Cable gets attention.
Good test for CNN's new leadership.
Howard, Putin called. He wants Obama back.
Obama and your mama
"No one cares about Hunter Biden. He didn't murder 250,000 Americans by benign neglect and depraved indifference"
Anyone care to take a guess who wrote this comment from an Althouse thread 19 months ago when the NYPost broke the story about the laptop?
"Lawyer for mother of Hunter Biden’s child says he expects president’s son to be indicted"
Lol, I expect him not to be.
I think that strange Biden quote about being "photographed naked by a friend" comes into greater focus. He had a preliminary drop, it would appear.
He has a lot on his mind.
Get ready for President Harris!
What could possibly go wrong?
I take this as a sign that the Dems want Biden gone and are letting this information out to prep the battlefield for forcing him out. The next step would be indictments of Hunter, followed by somber Dem politicians announcing at a press conference that they support an independent counsel to investigate. Biden will be told that if he steps down, it will all go away, but that if he fights then they will strip him of everything.
Since I enjoy political drama, here's my wild-ass .5% chance scenario:
The "Big Guy" kickback emails will lead to an impeachment, and it would be best for the Democrats if a Democratic congress pulled the trigger. This is the only way they could minimize the collateral damage of the fact-finding and impeachment session.
It'll be interesting to see if there is a move to replace Kamala Harris over the next couple of months, get her to resign on her own and replace her with a...less controversial VP. This would be a sure sign that a Biden impeachment is coming.
So the NYTs sat on this story for partisan purposes...AND the NYTs is suddenly dedicated to free speech.
That is like putting the weasel to guard the hen house (Because, ironically, The Fox IS guarding the hen house by posting stories that the NYTs suppresses)
They might indict him for something trivial as a sop to the 'braying' right.
But it's also a way to avoid the question of 'the big guy' in those shady deals, and the fact that Joe was Hunter's wing man during official VP visits overseas...
There must be something coming if the hacks at the NYT are getting ahead of it.
We are living in the USSA. All the institutions are aligned against the populist right or, in a word Trump. It’s shocking the level of deceit, cruelty, damage these institutions are willing to inflict on society to expunge Trump. How many tens of thousands of deaths could have been prevented if this cabal had not denied that therapies like hydroxychloroquine could help the Covid infected simply because Trump endorsed it. I believe the war-drum beating right now is more about Trump than Ukraine. Somehow in their twisted, hate-filled brain, the cabal associates Russia with Trump. To kill it, they kill him.
We have always been controlled by these forces but never so brazenly. The only hope is a massive blowout win past that margin of Dem cheating in 2022. But at best we will have “scotched the snake, not killed it,” as Macbeth put it. Still, that’s better than now.
Perhaps Joe (and when I say Joe I really mean Jill) has no intention of retiring before 2024.
This might just be the Dem deep state way of getting rid of him.
I would be shocked if Hunter Biden is indicted on the federal level. My guess is he will be quietly allowed to late register on FARA, and pay all evaded taxes- his GoFundMe will pay those.
As TreeJoe points out, you could not even DM about this story on Twitter. I'm not sure about Facebook.
I won't understand how the contents of people's DMs being moderated and blocked did not bother more people. It's incredibly troubling to me. I realize it's a private company, but so is Apple. What if Apple just decided to not allow your texts through because it didn't like what you were talking about?
Mike Sylwester has a typically excellent comment, too. Was Trump impeached over Ukraine to scare him (and other politicians) off from looking more deeply into Ukraine? We certainly never got satisfaction about what was going on in Benghazi even though our Ambassador was killed. Will we ever know what was going on with the Democrats that they so badly needed to make it impeachable to question Biden's relationship to Ukraine? (NPR is still dredging up the Ambassador who was fired by Trump, as her being let go from Kyiv is what caused what is happening now)
Baiden, Maidan, and the Slavic Spring with "benefits". The Spring series of wars were the model of profit that we were always told wars and disinformation could, should be. No blood for hydrocarbons in Libya or Kiev.
I would be shocked if Hunter Biden is indicted on the federal level.
I would not be shocked if those trying to indict Hunter Biden are indicted on the federal level.
Howard< cock holster >Putin
It's old news!
Can't we just move on?
/sarc
Has the NYT turned on Joe? They buried the lede in the 24th paragraph. Old loyalties die hard.
I suspect the Tucker Carlson interview with Tony Bobulinski would be somewhat more relevant now, eh?
Perhaps it should be shown again. And again. And again. Clearly, Joe Biden has taken money from the Russians, the Ukrainians, and the Chinese. And we're not talking $5s and $10s. We're talking millions. Enough to sway decisions, cease oil & gas production in the US, and open the door to trouble. We were made aware of Joe's dealings in early autumn 2020. That the 'paper of record' is still acting- and I stress the word acting- as if this is all new information, is pretty much their SOP.
Remember, they told the world that the Holodomor was nothing and that Uncle Joe (Stalin, not Biden) was doing a bang-up job creating a new civilization in the Soviet Union. Huzzah! That was done for money and access. Some things never change, do they?
Honestly, I don't care how many wonderful art and culture stories the Times runs. For news, they ceased to be my source years and years ago. They are a bought and paid for subsidiary of the Democratic National Party. Nothing more.
Was Trump impeached over Ukraine to scare him (and other politicians) off from looking more deeply into Ukraine?
Are you suggesting that more than a few congressional Democrats and Republicans were trying to hide their Ukraine corruption?
That's what a Putin apologist would say. The DOJ needs to look into your behavior. It is almost treasonous.
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I think that strange Biden quote about being "photographed naked by a friend" comes into greater focus. He had a preliminary drop, it would appear.
Yes, that was bizarre, even more so than usual. The "blackmail" part sounds like battle space prep.
A number of comments here seem to think Brandon is "the big guy"
He's not. Every time hunter refers to Brandon it is as his father or similar. Brandon gets 50%.
"the big guy" only gets 10-15.
So who is "the big guy"? Could it be Obama? Someone else wh we don't mention?
I'd bet $20 it's not Brandon
@Xmas (and a couple others)
I go back and forth. It could be the puppet masters want Joe gone though this could also be a modified limited hangout in order to say it's "old news", "Hunter was already indicted", "time to move on" in 2024. They may roll the dice with Harris. She's no worse than Biden when it comes to misreading a teleprompter and at least has more energy. With Manchin becoming a one-man stonewall for the progressive wish list they will need something to fire up the base for the current election, nothing like having the old stand-bys of sexism and racism to do that. They are also up against the almost certainly that the House, and the possibility that the Senate, will be in Republican hands in 2023 and give the GOP at least a say in who the replacement VP would be if they don't move now. They can always primary Harris. She'll be in the record books (with an asterisk), and if she moves to the Oval Office before the end of January 2023 she would be an instant lame duck if elected in 2024 because she served more than 2 years of Biden's term.
One thing that our billionaire tech oligarchs want above all is that politicians are nakedly for sale to the highest bidder, which, conveniently, is almost always them.
Of course impeachment was the cover up. Not to mention the same Ukrainian connections that have demonized Putin and egged both sides on to this war.
It's always obvious when I hit 🎯 Center Mass
"What if Apple just decided to not allow your texts through because it didn't like what you were talking about?"
It would depend on which side of the aisle the text resides.
It's old news! Can't we just move on?
This was my thought rather than Biden extraction battle prep. Step 1- Run the facts in the back along with the grocery ads. 2- When poo meets fan, claim everything has already been examined. 3- Stop repeating old news!
narciso said...
"furthermore said oligarch kolomoisky, presided over the looting of the privat bank, to the tune of 6 billion dollars, this is the earth quake that turned out poroshenko, since then kolomoisky has abandoned funding both the azov brigade and zelensky, however still owns half the rada (their parliament)"
That's anti-semitic!!!!!
'Wake me when the folks at MSNBC and CNN report on this please.'
Doing a search on cnn.com for 'hunter biden laptop' shows the last story they published dated April 2021.
But don't worry, they'll get right on it.
@ Browndog : "The lap top wasn't really real until the NYT said so? Is that where we're at?"
Close analogy is Schrödinger's cat in that famous box. The cat (= laptop) is neither alive or dead (= real or fake) until someone (= NYT) looks in the box (= turns on Slow Joe).
It surely is a relief that the NYT, after sixteen months, is finally on board and spinning this. Now the usual suspects can have something to say on the subject.
Turns out, usual suspects, this isn't Russian disinformation. Like so much of what you have been told to believe.
So they have not only flip flopped on the laptop but disowned their voluminous reporting on Ukrainian Nazis over the years since the Obama Administration backed them in a violent coup there, -- on the same day... Must be some kind of house cleaning going on.
https://twitter.com/GeorgeSzamuely/status/1504789423313113091
I know a lot of you guys think that my standing up for American values, above all, makes me some kind of traitor, but this is not a video game war. It's amazing how many people on Twitter accuse me of being a crypto-Nazi for it.
Iman said...
"Howard< cock holster >Putin"
Figure Dunning-Kruger to put it in perspective. It's the reason he was a public sector employee.
John Henry
No. My vote is Brandon because if they(Bidens) are that dumb not even Obama would want to be involved. Being a Chicago pol Obama had many more cut outs between him and the bagman.
Are you suggesting that more than a few congressional Democrats and Republicans were trying to hide their Ukraine corruption?
That's what a Putin apologist would say.
Ironic, isn't it. An EU-certified democratic election, then a Biden/Maidan/Slavic Spring, with biolabs a la Wuhan, civilian shelling, and denial of services for 32 trimesters. Ukraine is not Libya, but it is politically congruent.
So who is "the big guy"? Could it be Obama? Someone else wh we don't mention?
I read a very compelling case it was Obama on substack a week or so ago-forget who--think it was Jordan Schactel. This was before the newest really old bombshell by the NYT.
Remember when Paul Manafort and Tony Podesta were doing the exact same thing? Consulting/lobbying for Ukrainian oligarchs, with overlapping clients if I recall?
Then Manafort agreed to join team Trump to keep Cruz from stealing his electors so they threw him in prison and let the Podesta brothers slink away into obscurity?
"Browndog said...
The lap top wasn't really real until the NYT said so?"
Exactly so. The Dems are idealists. Nothing exists until the Dems know about it and they know nothing till Our Betters approve and the NYT prints something. Thus the motto: "All the knows that's fit to print."
And yet, despite the New York Times being wrong on a regular basis, the New York Times being obviously biased to the point of gaslighting, and the New York Times being, objectively, bad at journalism, we are supposed to still take them seriously.
At this point they rank below the Weekly World News. At least you knew that rag was all fake. With the NYT, you have to go to the effort of filtering out the bull**** from actual useful news, and why would you pay someone for that bother?
They are also up against the almost certainly that the House, and the possibility that the Senate, will be in Republican hands in 2023 and give the GOP at least a say in who the replacement VP would be if they don't move now.
I suspect that it's as much about the political appointees as a new VP. If they want to clean house they have to do so before the new Congress.
Interesting contrast between the news media’s treatment of Hunter Biden and the pearl clutching and “tsk-tsks” when the Bush twins were caught underage drinking on phony ids.
"t's always obvious when I hit 🎯 Center Mass"
Or that you let out a real howler, and we all want to get in on the fun of ridiculing it. Occam's razor says?
The best way to understand the odd hopscotch around the Hunter Biden story goes back to a point made by Vox in a story entitled "Prime Directive of Clinton investigations: We know the Clintons are guilty; the only question is what are they guilty of and when will we find the evidence?"
The stink surrounding the Hunter fiasco begins with the (coincidentily) Republican supporter of a small Wilmington computer repair shop named John Paul Mac Isaac, who sent copies of computer drives from water-soaked laptops - supposedly belonging to Hunter but who Mac Isaac says he couldn't identify - to Rudy Giuliani’s attorney and a famous Trump operative, Brian Costello.
In my mind, the next thing that happened was that someone on the White House staff (as was the case with the fake story on Dominion Voting Systems that could bankrupt Rudy) to whip up a big lie to match the carefully assembled files on the computer and to feed said story to the right-wing New York Post. That story begot more of the same from far-right media and more accusations appeared about illegally working for Burisma/China and the beat goes on more than 400 days later.
If there is a case to be made, let's have a trial and cut out the vacant accusations.
I know a lot of you guys think that my standing up for American values, above all, makes me some kind of traitor, but this is not a video game war.
That, and the fact that Ukrainians from both sides of the coup that overturned the EU-certified democratic election, are at risk, and have been for more than 32 trimesters. The war didn't start yesterday, and their empathetic reaction is overwhelming.
The stink surrounding the Hunter fiasco begins with the (coincidentily) Republican supporter of a small Wilmington computer repair shop named John Paul Mac Isaac, who sent copies of computer drives from water-soaked laptops - supposedly belonging to Hunter but who Mac Isaac says he couldn't identify - to Rudy Giuliani’s attorney and a famous Trump operative, Brian Costello.
gadfly, you are such a liar. You know that laptop was genuine and the videos were real. You still pretend that horseshit of "Russian Disinformation."
"It's always obvious when I hit 🎯 Center Mass"
Hitting a dog on the nose with a rolled up newspaper after he shits on the carpet doesn't mean the dog just made a brilliant observation.
Had a conversation with friends over for dinner(still friends, but it was a little heated) a few days after the Post first story on the Hunter laptop. The words Russian misinformation flowed out of them so freely, and this was before the ex-"CIA" flunkies claimed it had the marks of such. 'Had that ready at knee-jerk level" I said laughing. They were not similarly amused.
I really think its an overall character issue, and I sometimes suffer from it as well.
The automatic first response disbelief when "our side" is reported to have done something wrong.
Working on it.
I couldn't understand Creepy Joe's attempt to normalize dick pix, and sex endeavors. "It happens to everyone!!"
I figured Joe was Jonesin' to sniff a young girls hair.
Someone (perhaps here in Althousia) pointed out that it was a clumsy attempt to get ahead of the story. The laptops are being evaluated, and there's a jilted woman with financial records.
What are the odds that Joe is dumped before the mid-terms?
Kamala will have no agenda as president. She will cackle her way through the remains of the 4-year term.
Who would want to be VP for that idiot? A job in the Kamala administration is not a resume enhancement. Well.......maybe, Terry McAulliffe, or Jay Inslee. Perhaps, Hillary......."ohhhh...my precious!!"
democracy is aborted in the Spring
.....and one more thing!!
Who in their right mind would send Biden to the "Bully Pulpit" to get in front of a story??......and let him tell some creepy anecdote??
Incompetence oozes from this administration.
'...who sent copies of computer drives from water-soaked laptops...'
Knowing what we know about Hunter and his extracurricular activities, it's probably not water...Ewwww!
Bidens are liars and crooks.
Clintons are liars and crooks.
Pelosi family rival the Castros with their government billions in grift.
Gadfly - ye with no credibility- tell us about the child rapist/ leftwing skinhead who attempted to kill Kyle Rittenhouse.
As usual, Temujin says it all.
"Famous Trump operative, Brian Costello."
Really?
"Famous Trump operative, Brian Costello."
"Really?"
I think he's in the next cast of Dancing with the Stars.
The Clintons never had to pay for their crimes, and neither will the Bidens. Who would even prosecute them? Merrick Garland? Ha!
When does the NYT ignoring a story and the active suppression of the NY Post article by Twitter and Facebook morph from journalistic discretion to millions in campaign contributions to Biden? Are we even going to talk about social media campaign collusion? Or is collusion only bad when we pretend the Russians collided with Trump?!
I don’t even like Trump and this insane to me. I can’t imagine why his supporters were so upset they breached… sorry, we’re waved into the capitol on January 6th.
Hunter's a lowlife. I wouldn't necessarily take what he says literally. The most likely explanation of "the big guy" is that he was venting against having to give money to his father and exaggerating how much money Joe took from him.
It's a mystery where Obama's fortune came from and there's definitely shadiness involved there, but given the tensions between Obama and Biden, I don't see Obama demanding a cut of Hunter's takings.
Too many takers cut into the grift increases the chances of things going wrong. Moreover, it looks like Joe got his cut not in cash or in securities but in Hunter paying his bills for him. That's not something it would be easy to cut a third party into.
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