March 31, 2022

He'll have to name names then, won't he?

 

If he doesn't, people will infer he made the whole thing up.

The screenshot is from Drudge, and the links go to "Kevin McCarthy Says Madison Cawthorn Admitted He Exaggerated Claims About Cocaine and Orgies: He ‘Lost My Trust’" (Mediaite) and "'He's an embarrassment': Republicans threaten to primary Cawthorn over controversial antics" (CNN).

By the way "admitted he exaggerated" means that the underlying assertion is true. It's just that the words were imprecise. 

I don't remember to use my "embarrassment" tag often enough. You know, there are different ways of being "an embarrassment." An embarrassment to whom? Just himself? Or to the party? Or to a bipartisan group of powerful Washingtonians?

66 comments:

gilbar said...

so, we can assume, that some (half?(most?)) of the orgy people were republicans?

David Begley said...

It was AOC. All Republicans want to date her.

wendybar said...

I hope he does. Name them all, and let them suffer the consequences. (there won't be any, because as we know, they can do whatever they want, because they RULE over us peons who have no say in what they do)

wendybar said...

I'm still waiting for Congress to release the names of Congresscritters who got bailed out with tax payer money for sexual harassment cases... WHEN are THEY going to release the names??? WHY should WE get stuck paying for their actions?? https://www.realclearpolicy.com/articles/2021/03/24/182_million_congressional_slush_fund_for_metoo_claims_769046.html#!

Bob Boyd said...

"...exaggerated" means that the underlying assertion is true

Somebody offered him 2 aspirin and a hand job?

Left Bank of the Charles said...

“An embarrassment to whom? Just himself? Or to the party? Or to a bipartisan group of powerful Washingtonians?”

To the Republican party.

Left Bank of the Charles said...

Or as we should call it now, the Republican Cocaine and Orgy Party.

tim maguire said...

That was a hell of an accusation. If he isn't willing to stand by it, then he needs to go. McCarthy's right--he's a flake, a loose cannon. He doesn't think before he speaks.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Most of those frumpy old farts are so gross - I cannot imagine orgies and drugs.

RideSpaceMountain said...

admitted he exaggerated

Worst. Gangbang. Ever.

Ron Winkleheimer said...

You can't go around saying that congress critters committed drug felonies in front of you and asked you to go to sex parties and not be expected to name names.

Which reminds me of a song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K16fG1sDagU

Quaestor said...

The persecution of one Republican back-bencher over an "exaggeration" seems disproportionate in the Age of Biden unless Option Three is operative...

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Take NOTHING that swampy McCarthy says at face value. For the love of God we need someone else to be Speaker after Nancy. But this episode presents quite the conundrum so far. The new guy is a strange one but not known as a big liar. The senior Congresscritter is two faced and uses the very flexible term “exaggerated” where one expects to hear “false” or “fanciful” so the ambiguity is thick here. Cawthorne needs to clarify.

Spiros said...

The increased attention and activism devoted to rape has caused young people to live in a constant state of fear. The consequences of this fear are severe.

It is not surprising that, given Mr. Cawthorn's age and handicap, he is plagued by sexual paranoia and vulnerability. But it's not okay either and it doesn't justify his stupid lies.

Leland said...

the Republican Cocaine and Orgy Party

You seem desperate Charles. I'm sure that sounds exciting to some people, but I've seen the representatives in the GOP and I'm not buying it. Sure, Republicans average 3 years younger than Democrats, but partying with drugs and sex with them, yeah nah.

BTW, looking at Cawthorn's Wikipedia entry, he seems to embellish events often. Such as claiming he was rejected by the US Naval Academy after becoming paralyzed in an accident, but then admitting in a legal deposition that he was actually rejected prior to that accident. He also claimed that he was "declared dead at the scene" of the accident, despite medical records stating "incapacitated" which seems likely considering subsequent medical treatment. I guess that is par for the course for politicians, but it still doesn't make me believe in cocaine orgies, especially with a paraplegic.

Ron Winkleheimer said...

Most of those frumpy old farts are so gross - I cannot imagine orgies and drugs.

Given the congress critters age and grossness, I would think that the orgies would require large amounts of drugs.

Ron Winkleheimer said...

Most of those frumpy old farts are so gross - I cannot imagine orgies and drugs.

Given the congress critters age and grossness, I would think that the orgies would require large amounts of drugs.

Mark said...

Now we know what's the story with Lindsey Graham!

Quaestor said...

The Republican Cocaine and Orgy Party are infinitely preferable to the Democrats. In power, they are too distracted by the coke or too exhausted by the sex to do anything but the bare minimum. Every economic and social ill this nation suffers today has been the direct and predictable result of Democratic activism. Activism is just fascism for sissies. We don't need it. We don't want it.

Come November when the Grand Old Cocaine and Orgy Party take the reins of power in hand, they should content themselves with investigating Biden the Younger and prosecuting Biden the Elder followed by some much needed common carrier and anti-trust legislation aimed at Big Tech, which should keep them occupied for 12 months. Grateful Americans will award them with a sex and drugs bender the likes of which even Caligula never dreamt of.

Andrew said...

Everything else aside, Cawthorn is a nut. Does anyone here remember his video where he was preparing to break some speed record at the Paralympics? Everyone in the actual sport mocked him as a nonentity.

It's a shame that the youngest person ever to serve in Congess can't be someone with more dignity.

Freeman Hunt said...

He exaggerated? So he was invited to a party to play spin-the-bottle?

narciso said...

The ones who enabled the ruinous inflation, that is leading to famine through the stimulus who voted for auatin garland and mayorkas

Enlighten-NewJersey said...

All Cawthorn needs to do is claim that it was people from the Democrat Party who invited him to these wild parties and he sincerely hopes they straighten up so he does not need to name names to the media.

Browndog said...

If he does name names, he'll have to prove it. They'll deny it. Then they'll kick him out of Congress.

he didn't think this through.

JK Brown said...

When McCarthy spoke after Jan 6th and categorically stated there were only bad Republicans there that day, no Antifa, etc. he demonstrated that he is owned and operated by the DC swamp. He may have even been following the script Nancy Pelosi had given him.

We now know, there were Antifa there, there were FBI instigators there, there were a lot of different groups there. But McCarthy got on the Swamp party line immediately because he is their creature.

As for Cawthorn, were any waitresses sandwiched in his allegations?

gilbar said...

People have accused gilbar; of kidnapping, raping, murdering, and EATING college Coeds
I Need to Let you know: That THOSE accusations are "exaggerated"

What's emanating from your penumbra said...

Hey, dude, you're spoiling the gravy train!

Yancey Ward said...

I agree that he needs to name names now. Otherwise, he should resign.

Oh, and once again- Madison Cawthorn did not kill himself.

Joe Smith said...

Other than Sinema (and she's let herself go a bit lately), I don't know that there are any drug-fueled, orgy-worthy* members of congress...

*h/t Seinfeld

Wilbur said...

tim maguire said...
That was a hell of an accusation. If he isn't willing to stand by it, then he needs to go. McCarthy's right--he's a flake, a loose cannon. He doesn't think before he speaks.


This.

n.n said...

A handmade tale, perhaps. Exercised liberal license in order to speak truth to power, maybe. Assessing exaggeration depends on a frame of reference. Implausible, improbable even, no, with diverse near and not so far precedents.

Howard said...

Madison is struggling to walk back his statement... unexpectedly

Iman said...

“There was a pile of cocaine in front of me. I had to shit or get off the pot. There was a dick wagging in front of my face. What could I do? I HAD to suck it!”

—- Gerald Nadler

n.n said...

Unless it was a Polanksi, Weinstein, Epstein, Biden, Gosnell, or Cecile event, and there is no effort to normalize, then this impurity is local without domestic or foreign leverage, and without forward-looking consequences for the People and our Posterity.

Narayanan said...

Q: why the hesitation to name names? is Cawthorn sort of adjacent to what he exaggerates?

hombre said...

"Exaggerate" means to extend beyond the boundaries of truth. Consequently, any or all of his statement could be false.

J Melcher said...

C'mon, man! If he said there were sexually abusive encounters or parties among priests and choir boys; Silicon Valley investors and booth girls; Cub Scouts and Den Masters; Kindergarteners and LGBTQIA teachers; Hollywood actors and wanna-be actresses; Rock singers and groupies; ...

Why is it at all unlikely that ANY wealthy and powerful group would include a few members that abuse their positions to exploit the vulnerable?

Michael K said...

Most of those frumpy old farts are so gross - I cannot imagine orgies and drugs.

Given the congress critters age and grossness, I would think that the orgies would require large amounts of drugs.


Don't forget the "waitress sandwich." That was probably alcohol but maybe some additional help.

Tom said...

So instead of cocaine and am orgy, it was weed and a circle jerk. Got it.

Rabel said...

This guy is looking a little flakey. Unfortunate.

Freder Frederson said...

I don't know what the fuss is about. The answer is obvious. Like Michael K (who yesterday claimed he "saw" all the biometric data stored by China) and Trump, Cawthorn is pathological liar. This lie was particularly stupid.

Really?! Who is going to invite a paraplegic to an orgy?

Drago said...

Andrew: "It's a shame that the youngest person ever to serve in Congess can't be someone with more dignity."

We have much larger problems with senior most members of our government....

VP HARRIS: "One of the issues that has been presented as an issue that is economic in the way of its impact has been the pandemic... we will assist Jamaica in COVID recovery by assisting in terms of the recovery efforts in Jamaica that have been essential." https://t.co/fVSr8Km6co

Freder Frederson said...

The new guy is a strange one but not known as a big liar.

Well, this statement is a lie.

Howard said...

Seeing how tantalizing this story is to you people is comedy gold.

Beasts of England said...

Don’t dismiss the idea of cocaine-fueled orgies attended by members of Congress. It doesn’t necessarily mean an intra-Congressional romp. DC is a top city for escorts - look it up on the webz - and lobbyists offer more than just cold hard cash.

Iman said...

Shorter Howard: “more Kleenex!”

tommyesq said...

Consider this story in the context of Eric Swalwell (D. Cal.)'s relationship with a Chinese spy, which broke in late 2020. I suspect that the sponsor/host of these cocaine-fueled orgies did not speak English as a first language and may in fact be hostile to America. Also, note that Cawthorn did not say that he exaggerated - someone else, the Senate Minority Leader who pay well be implicated in the drugs and sexual perversions and may have reason to lie (or at a minimum to "exaggerate" the "admission" allegedly made by Cawthorn), is saying that Cawthorn admitted such to him.

Joe Smith said...

'I cannot imagine orgies and drugs.'

It's kind of ironic that the oldest, grossest member are also the richest, and the only ones who can afford the finest, purest Columbian flake.

Nancy keeps it in her $8,000 freezer next to her $50 ice cream : )

Unknown said...

Why does the lunacy seem to lean Right? Not meaning there aren't plenty of loons on the other side, but when you get "I'm not a witch", the rumors of orgies and coke use with no evidence, and Jewish space lasers, well, it doesn't help the cause.

Old and slow said...

I wouldn't imagine (or I would prefer not to...) that they are having sex with one another. Cocaine and Viagra, certainly. Paid prostitutes, makes sense. Paid for by lobbyists, of course. And I wouldn't limit it to one party more than the other.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

If this guy is a known liar and exaggerator - he needs to switch his party affiliation.
He'd be a better in team D. Adam Schitt(D) could be his mentor.

Richard Aubrey said...

We can start with the supposition that this sort of thing never, ever happens, nossir, not ever is invalid.
So the likelihood that Cawthorn encountered some reference to it is non-zero. How likely is determined in part by how disciplined the perps are in keeping it all a secret, so...probably non-zero as well. And then, being in effect alerted to or sensitized to the subject, he hears another reference in passing which is sufficiently vague that, had he not heard the first, it would have meant nothing...so now his presumption(s) is/are reinforced.
Perhaps that's as far as it went and he built a pyramid pointy-end down. Or perhaps there was more reference and common knowledge floating around.
Or maybe somebody thought getting the newby into the fight club would be a proper step.

Richard Aubrey said...

We can start with the supposition that this sort of thing never, ever happens, nossir, not ever is invalid.
So the likelihood that Cawthorn encountered some reference to it is non-zero. How likely is determined in part by how disciplined the perps are in keeping it all a secret, so...probably non-zero as well. And then, being in effect alerted to or sensitized to the subject, he hears another reference in passing which is sufficiently vague that, had he not heard the first, it would have meant nothing...so now his presumption(s) is/are reinforced.
Perhaps that's as far as it went and he built a pyramid pointy-end down. Or perhaps there was more reference and common knowledge floating around.
Or maybe somebody thought getting the newby into the fight club would be a proper step.

JaimeRoberto said...

I would expect all politicians to be the targets of honeypots from intelligence services foreign and domestic and from both parties in order to control them. New and young Congressmen are probably especially vulnerable to that. Heck, Swalwell was the target of one even before he became a Congressman.

William said...

Freder frederson displays a shocking amount of ableist bigotry. He feels that the wheelchair bound have no place in an orgy. What other events or spaces should the disabled avoid in his estimation?.... Freder prefers his orgies plain vanilla. The handicapped, little people, people of color, furries are not welcome at his orgies. He's into Epstein type orgies. Only underaged white girls need apply. Any orgy, by its very nature, should be inclusive. They should celebrate diversity. Amputees lend a special flavor if they remove the prosthesis before piling on.

Andrew said...

@Drago,
I certainly agree with you there. I'll be honest, I get some weird, perverse pleasure watching those Harris videos. I've never seen such a vapid person in my life. Her pontifications are almost works of art.

Earnest Prole said...

If he doesn’t yet know kompromat is as much a danger in Washington as it is in Moscow he has no business being a congressman.

Spiros said...

AOC implied that the orgies and prostitutes and cocaine-fueled benders are about Matt Gaetz.

Jupiter said...

"Really?! Who is going to invite a paraplegic to an orgy?"

Maybe we're about to find out.

Lurker21 said...

Friends don't let friends vote for frat boys.

Jake said...

Anyone taking any bets on who the persons are?

Drago said...

Howard: "Seeing how tantalizing this story is to you people is comedy gold."

The Turnkey Sexual Grooming and Pedophilia Crew checks in.

Your allies at The Lincoln Pedophile Project thank you.

Josephbleau said...

Orchestrated BS from what focus groups find is bad. But if you are in the House, don't be stupid and blurt out the truth unless the opponent has not caved to the blackmail.

Gospace said...

William Claiborne, age 21-22 is the youngest person to be seated in Congress. Nominated, elected, and seated despite the actual words in the Constitution regarding age of congresscritters. When the Democrat-Republican Party split the majority of members became part of the Democrat Party. Democrats have a long history of ignoring the actual words of the Constitution.

Rollo said...

AOC implied that the orgies and prostitutes and cocaine-fueled benders are about Matt Gaetz.

I guess she just wants to date him.

walter said...

Sen. Graham will get to the bottom of this.