"When you know lies are told about you...that causes some stress. Hard to get a good night’s sleep.... The New York Times, the be all and end all, the loud voice in the media, had… taken a knee-jerk reaction and tried to score political points, trying to politicize horrific violence."
Sarah Palin testified, quoted in "Palin calls New York Times the ‘Goliath’ in libel dispute" (AP).
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but they Say, that they didn't MEAN to call her a murderer when they called her a murderer
So, it's All Good! Because IF you call someone something, without proof
All you have to do, is issue a statement that you Didn't MEAN to.
I'm Kinda Surprised More people don't take advantage of this
I can relate- not w/murder, but an untruth told to cover the other’s bad Faith actions. It took years to forgive in my heart.
She’s a good woman. Jaded now, b/c of shitty ppl, that Andrew whatever-his-name… Sullivan- him2. Going through her garbage. The true definition of garbage ppl…
I wonder about the timing of the NYT piece and the Giffords shooting. I recall watching the whole "Palin-is-to-blame-meme" unfolding in the Althouse comments <a href="https://althouse.blogspot.com/2011/01/us-congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords.html>link</a> in real time. Within hours (minutes?), commenters here started circulating the connection between Palin and the shootings. I cannot speak to the legal term of art being used to judge this case, but I can state that the commenters behind the nastiest ones in the Althouse link were malicious and not based on truth. They were written by individuals who had show over the course of a few years to have suffered from what might be called Palin derangement syndrome. Certainly, the NYT was infected by the same PDS at the time. That is my recollection at least. I hope Palin's attorneys can meet the standard.
Big and small.
Verdict for Palin; damages $1 plus attorneys fees.
Caribou Barbie counter attacks. Hell of a woman.
I’m not a Palin fan by any means, but this case deserves a hearing, and she might even deserve to win.
Nice reputation you had there--shame I had to destroy. But it was a mistake--didn't really mean to do it. Or so the NYT hack has testified.
I don't think Ms. Palin is ready to kiss and makeup with the boys and girls at the NYT.
For a variety of reasons, I sincerely hope she wins this case. The media has had a free pass for far too long. Just listening to that editor’s defense of his writing was sickening. It shouldn’t be that easy to publish awful things about people and get away with it. The media has long since forfeited its right to claim a moral high ground.
- Krumhorn
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"taken a knee-jerk reaction and tried to score political points, trying to politicize horrific violence"
Correct. But probably not enough to win her case. Plus she misuses the Goliath vs. David thing.
I hope the Times gets the book throw at them. Palin’s right, the Times has every bit of resources at its disposal to fact check so it’s not as if someone couldn’t do a basic google search here. It was straight up maliciousness to link her to a mass shooting. This isn’t a celebrity getting upset that a magazine ran a gossip column about her dating life. The Times straight up claimed Palin influenced the nut job shooter in AZ. Wrong, wrong. Eat crow Times and hefty fine to boot.
From the Internet's Tabloid of Record:
Daily Mail Feb 10, 2022
Vladimir Putin and Emmanuel Macron sat 13ft apart at huge table after French president refused to take Covid test 'over fears about Russia getting his DNA'
Emmanuel Macron and Vladimir Putin sat 13ft apart at Ukraine talks this week after Covid test row
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10499451/Putin-kept-Macron-distance-snubbing-COVID-demands-sources.html
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Putin wanted to get Macron's DNA so Macron could be cloned, just like Dolly the sheep. Dolly was actually worth something. Macron, not so much.
Well, her analogy isn't wrong.
The NYT has some "serious 'splaining to do," to quote Ricky Ricardo, particularly since the Palin accusation came years after the same MSM lauded the 2006 film "Death of a President, AKA The Assassination of George Bush," when he was a sitting President.
The wheel of Karma spins NYT, and it just might land hard on you this time.
Sow the wind and reap the whirlwind-
Read that the judge dismissed claim for punitive damages on ground evidence too weak (higher standard of proof). Also Palin testified no medical expenses associated with her mental health injury. Pain and suffering damages tend to have a relationship with out of pocket medical expenses. Testimony over. Judge needs to finalize and give jury instructions.
I'd vote for her again.
(Unless she was running with someone akin to McCain.)
The article fails to detail what she was wearing.
HuffPo/Daily Beast/Slate are all sneering at her testimony. They wouldn't do that if they were confident the NYT will win.
I always liked Palin. Her RNC acceptance speech was amazing. She said Obama "palled around with terrorists," something her running mate wouldn't have had the guts to say ever. And that's the best part about Palin: she exposed McCain for the pussy that he was.
Also since I don't think anyone above said it, Palin was the true beginning of today's populist movement and she paved the way for The Donald.
The process is the punishment.
This trial has exposed the Times as run by partisan incompetents.
Palin won. She’s not getting any money and doesn’t need it.
If I were on the jury, I’d award her $1,619.
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The Times has become a tabloid. It should be sold on the same shelf as the National Enquirer and People magazine.
NYTs punishment should be to run an editorial listing everything they have lied about over the last 20 years.
Mich--what the times did was worse. They maliciously accused her of encouraging and incentivizing the nutcase to shoot Gabby Giffords, then were forced to admit they were wrong.
Then they did it again several years later. Because they could.
If that is not at a minimum recklessly false then there is no standard.
"Vladimir Putin and Emmanuel Macron sat 13ft apart at huge table after French president refused to take Covid test 'over fears about Russia getting his DNA"
Macron? WHat's he worried about?
Now Webb Hubbell and Chelsea Clinton, or Justin Trudeau and ole Fidel I could see.
If I were on the jury, I’d award her $1,619.
Funny. Or even $16.19! But the idea of highlighting OTHER malicious lies via this action is brilliant.
Yes, I do call Hannah-Jones malicious...
Just my opinion, of course.
Also, the word "malice" doesn't mean what you think.
If I were on the jury, I’d award her $1,619.
Funny!
The idea of highlighting the OTHER malicious lies in the NY Times, using this action to do so, is brilliant.
Yes, I do call Hannah-Jones and her works "malicious".
Just my opinion, of course.
And the word "Malice" does not mean what you think.
Breezy, you’ll need more space, NYT lie reveal would run volumes.
My vote: $1,619,000.00 in damages plus attorney fees.
Sick, sick, sick of the media in this country.
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