January 14, 2022

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67 comments:

rehajm said...

People respond to incentives. So do thieves.

Bob Boyd said...

Look for your item on Ebay at a reduced price and cross your fingers it isn't stolen again.

iowan2 said...

My limited experience with railroad "dicks" showed them to be ruthless and quick to violence. Not sure how this is allowed. Even derailments on private property are under the control of railroad "dicks". Local, county, and state LEO's all remove themselves from the area, and Property owners are barred from their own property.
I guess I'm saying, decisions have been made to ignore the lawlessness.

retail lawyer said...

This is a really expensive and inefficient way to achieve equity. I always wonder, for how long it will be encouraged?

Iman said...

As civilization crumbles around us…

wendybar said...

Bidens Lawless America. They will be let go, because they didn't take over $999. worth of stuff at the same time.

Bob Boyd said...

Somewhere in LA is a modern day Fagin. Street people bring him this plunder in exchange for drugs and he has others selling it for him on Ebay.

gilbar said...

it's just shoplifting, isn't it? That's Legal in California now, isn't it?

rhhardin said...

It's a cultural thing.

gilbar said...

iowan2 said...
My limited experience with railroad "dicks" showed them to be ruthless and quick to violence

in the immortal words, of SE Hinton; That Was THEN, This Is NOW
There are NO Laws restricting theft in California anymore. Grabbers Keepers

gilbar said...

we, as Americans, didn't WANT to live in a country of Laws; did we?

Iman said...

It is time for us to do what we have been doing. And that time is every day. Every day it is time for us to agree that there are things and tools that are available to us to slow this Thief Train down.

rehajm said...

Why open the box on site? Seems inconvenient…

Mike of Snoqualmie said...

Neobarbarians at work. They're everywhere, robbing trains, robbing jewelry stores, robbing Walmarts, just to mention a few. Then, there's the neobarbarians on CNN and MSNBC lying about "white supremacy", and how CRT isn't in the schools. We have neobarbarians in the White House and the Congress, screeching about how election integrity measures are really voter suppression.

Every single neobarbarian is undermining civil society and creating chaos.

Captain BillieBob said...

I'm glad I don't live in LA. We would like to visit friends in Ca but not until there is some semblance of order.

We all pay in for what is happening in blue states.

MadisonMan said...

@rehajm, you wouldn't want to get home to find a box full of stuffed bears, would you?

tim maguire said...

rehajm said...Why open the box on site? Seems inconvenient…

Efficiency: Amazon boxes are often much bigger than their contents and this way you can focus on the most valuable stuff.

Sebastian said...

But what are the root causes?

rehajm said...

At least there’s no more mean tweets…

Temujin said...

If only we had a bureau, or department of our Federal Government who's job it was to work on domestic crimes that are dangerous to the public or the economy at large. If only we had people who's job it was to investigate and pursue those criminals perpetrating these crimes.

Well...at least we have a new division established to surveil and investigate taxpaying citizens who did not vote for Joe Biden. So we've got that going for us.

DanTheMan said...

>>But what are the root causes?

The answer is racism, climate change, and corporate greed.

It doesn't really matter what the question is, that's the answer.

Gerda Sprinchorn said...

I'm pretty sure I just saw the Bob Ross slippers I ordered for Christmas!

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/weird-christmas-gifts-2020_n_5f97b6b4c5b63fd49cef916a

mikee said...

Coming soon to a neighborhood like yours!

Let's go, dementia Joe!

Wince said...

I wonder if the thieves use stolen iPhones to check the boxes for those Apple Tag thingies before they steal them?

rehajm said...

Perhaps the only defense is for the people of LA to ship back their Cologuard samples on the same day…

mikee said...

On a more practical note, tracking of packages is an advanced art. The losses are surely noticed almost immediately when the packages don't get to the next waypoint. Why are shippers putting up with this?

Either the situation is being sensationalized beyond its much smaller reality, or the tracking process has already identified this as a problem and remedies are being considered. The solution? Better locks on containers and rail cars? Reroute the trains to avoid slowing and stopping here? Treat a few looters to arrest and federal charges (robbing a train is a federal crime, not local) every day as a lesson to the rest until the problem is resolved? Sack the local DA?

And as an aside, how is the local Fagan shipping his ill-gotten goods, without having repeated losses and undelivered product to his buyers due to train robberies?

DanTheMan said...

>>And as an aside, how is the local Fagan shipping his ill-gotten goods, without having repeated losses and undelivered product to his buyers due to train robberies?

When your cost of goods sold is essentially zero, you can put up with quite a bit of losses and still be wildly profitable.

gilbar said...

rehajm said...
Why open the box on site? Seems inconvenient…

on the aerial video on twitter there's 100's (1,000's!) of boxes opened and laying on the railside.
There's ALSO, a homeless camp right next to the tracks. Looks like:

a train stops for switching
a Horde of neobarbarians jump onto the railcars; and Throw Off,AS Much as they can
then, a their leisure; the neobarbs open up the packages, looking for useful/valuable stuff

I'll bet those homeless newbarbs are pretty well dressed. AND have pretty good spending money

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

Idiocracy is here.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

I sure hope Meryl Streep, the Ladies of The View and Barbara Streisand don't have to see that mess.

*fainting couch*

Danno said...

We need a guy like the Polk County Florida Sheriff to be in charge of law enforcement. If you haven't heard of him, use your search engine to find videos where he summarizes how crime does not pay where he has jurisdiction.

who-knew said...

One year when I was going to school in Madison, I lived in a dump of a house on West Doty in the student housing area. When my parents came to visit one day, my dad got out of the car, looked the house up and down and said "at least you'll know what it's like to live in the ghetto." Never thought I'd know what it was like to live in a third world shithole, but here we are.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

While rich white progressive elites can afford personal security details PAID FOR BY US, the rest of us democrat loyalists adore our white left elite betters and demand they DEFUND THE POLICE! After all, criminals are people too.

tim in vermont said...

eBay is Fagan.

Iman said...

Devolution is Real…

cubanbob said...

Since train robbing is a federal crime this another example federal law enforcement incompetence. That said, shippers should be suing the railroads for willfully failing to protect the cargo.
If the insurance companies would put waivers on their policies to exclude the LA intermodal for theft claims that would encourage to do something about this such as having railroad dicks beat the crap out of the thieves. That would deter crime.

gilbar said...

mikee shows he's Got A Lot To Learn About Railroads, when he says...
Reroute the trains to avoid slowing and stopping here?

It Sure would be NICE, if things from China didn't have to go through Los Angles...
BUT

gilbar said...

cubanbob said...
do something about this such as having railroad dicks beat the crap out of the thieves
In CALIFORNIA???
You'd have some pretty rich homeless neobarbs, if the BNSF was stupid enough to assault them. Seriously, What do you think a California jury would do?
$1,000,000 a beating? $10,000,000 ? $100,000,000 ???

AndrewV said...

When my Great Grandpa was an engineer on the Santa Fe the railroad bulls would have put a stop to that real quick.

What's emanating from your penumbra said...

The authorities are super concerned to stop this madness. If only they could predict where the next theft would occur.

Ficta said...

Having earned his "Carter years" badge, Joe Biden is now going for his FDR trophy. He's already got:
1. Greatly expand government spending
2. Food shortages
3. Hobos robbing trains
which leaves only
4. Global war
Oh dear.

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

These aren't thefts. They are cultural appropriation.

Dying is easy, comedy is hard.

Brian said...

and remedies are being considered

Are they? As illustrated in Atlas Shrugged, what will happen is that people in the bureaucracy (government/corporate/etc) will figuratively say "Who is John Galt?" and go about their day.

The article points out that they have hired extra guards. But will the guards actually do anything? Arrest them? And turn them over to who? Who will prosecute?

There were stories about looting in Chicago as well last June. Chicago Train Looting


Chris said...

Biden's America

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

Theft and trash - It's a progressive paradise!

TheOne Who Is Not Obeyed said...

The mention of REI packages caught my eye. I belong to a couple buy-sell groups on facebook and there is one that has a number of folks who are frequently selling REI merch new, with tags. I keep wondering how they get this stuff in a way that would be profitable at the price at which they are selling.

Two of them are in the LA area.

Hmmmm.

Scotty, beam me up... said...

In the bizarro world that we now live in, the LA District Attorney wouldn’t prosecute the thieves leaving this mess, either for theft or littering, most likely in the name of social justice. But they would prosecute the railroad for the “litter” to the fullest extent of the law because this is a big, bad, and rich capitalist company; after all, the powers that be in LA are worried about all this pollution on the railroad’s property and its effect on the environment…

Dave Begley said...

We are moving to Mad Max times.

Bob Boyd said...

Beats dumpster diving all to hell.

Bob Boyd said...

Watch It Fall

rehajm said...

I’ve imagined we’ll eventually see a commerce strike in areas where theft is legal- store closures, delivery companies abandoning certain zip codes, insurance companies leaving…something. I also know banking tolerates an unseemly percentage of ‘shrink’ from fraud year after year, passing on the costs to consumers

…and now that Team Biden’s Earpiece has billions, nay trillions in government slush at its discretion it would not surprise me if some of that discretion is slopping over to mitigate the damage to the losing participants…

It does not give me hope something constructive will be done…

What's emanating from your penumbra said...

Bob Boyd said...

Watch It Fall

Thanks!

Wilbur said...

Another success story for Transportation Secretary Pete.

Bob Boyd said...

...do something about this such as having railroad dicks beat the crap out of the thieves.

There are a lot more deserving candidates for a beating in this country than these desperate train robbers. And a lot of them went to the best schools.

Carol said...

So, I lost a keyboard shipment somewhere around Gary, Ind a few years ago. And another from China shortly after it landed in Seattle.

I had no freaking idea this kind of thing was going on. Good time to save my money!

Yancey Ward said...

This is what happens when governments fail to do their primary job- keep the peace and order. This is only going to get worse.

Yancey Ward said...

"Why are shippers putting up with this?"

Because they aren't allowed to do anything about it other than not ship stuff through California.

Achilles said...

mikee said...

Why are shippers putting up with this?

Big companies can absorb these losses.

Small companies cannot.

This is crony capitalism at work. The aristocracy has been at war with small businesses since the start. They want their big business cronies in charge because big business cronies are very much down with National Socialism.

Bob Boyd said...

Yup. It's easier to herd half a dozen oxen than 5000 cats.

AZ Bob said...

You'd think LA officials would want to stop the littering.

Bob Boyd said...

Can't see it from their houses. Can't see the homeless encampments either.

Richard Dillman said...

I expect our esteemed Transportation Secretary and his minions to personally guard these containers. After all they don’t have much else to do. I don’t want my twice, back-ordered L.L. Bean pants from Indonesia to get lost.

Yancey Ward said...

From Chicago.

Yancey Ward said...

These are the sorts of things that happen as a society collapses into anarchy. There is, apparently, no will to stop any of this these days.

Joe Smith said...

'My limited experience with railroad "dicks" showed them to be ruthless and quick to violence.'

Those were the Raymond Chandler days...

Back then, thieves and hobos would be beaten within an inch of their lives.

Now they're given government checks and a nice hotel room to live in.

loudogblog said...

My grandparents had a house in Lincoln Heights. (My granddad actually built it himself, which is how they rolled in those days.) I spent a lot of my first 25 years there. It's a gigantic railroad hub and the whole area smelled like oil and diesel fuel. My dad was actually a mailman at the Lincoln Heights post office when I was born. They have a big park there called Lincoln park. Back in the 1960s, they had a small lake and a boathouse where you could rent peddle boats. My mom took us there a lot as kids. Now the place is a total shithole filled with drug dealers and addicts.

jg said...

speed up the trains