December 16, 2021

Josh Marshall elevates the bad comedy of a man with 51 Twitter followers. Josh assumes it's not comedy so he can take an incredibly low-quality cheap shot.

AND: Yes, I believe it is possible to take a high-quality cheap shot. I have some respect for cheapness, done right. 

UPDATE: The man with 51 Twitter followers seems to have deleted his tweet.

39 comments:

Lloyd W. Robertson said...

Somehow I hear Jackie Mason. So the first two shots didn't work, we need a third shot, and not only will that shot work, but it will work because of the first two shots suddenly working, so the third shot wouldn't work on its own, but it works because suddenly the first two shots, that didn't work, now work.

Wince said...

I didn't think the original cart-before-the-horse joke was "bad comedy" at all. The Twitter reaction was just a bunch of lefties trying to preen.

Yet, a lot of these same lefties, in all seriousness, advocate policies that try to create middle class status before instilling middle class traits, in violation of Reynold's Law...

Reynolds’ Law was based on this remark by Instapundit’s Glenn Reynolds:

The government decides to try to increase the middle class by subsidizing things that middle class people have: If middle-class people go to college and own homes, then surely if more people go to college and own homes, we’ll have more middle-class people.

But homeownership and college aren’t causes of middle-class status, they’re markers for possessing the kinds of traits — self-discipline, the ability to defer gratification, etc. — that let you enter, and stay, in the middle class. Subsidizing the markers doesn’t produce the traits; if anything, it undermines them.

Iman said...

“Get ready, bal… yer in for a problem.”

Real American said...

And what's the deal with the black box? It's the only part of the airplane to survive the crash. Why don't they just make the whole plane out of the black box?

CWJ said...

"...will continue to hold this country back in a big way."

Implies blocking progress toward a desired goal. So what is Josh Marshall's goal for America, that snark, whether well or poorly done, is such an impediment?

JK Brown said...

Well, that seems to be the poster-tweet for "punching down".

Ficta said...

He had just made the acquaintance of a group of citizens when an invisible dog began to yelp and snarl and howl and make himself very comprehensively disagreeable, whereupon young Wilson said, much as one who is thinking aloud—
“I wish I owned half of that dog.”
“Why?” somebody asked.
“Because I would kill my half.”
The group searched his face with curiosity, with anxiety even, but found no light there, no expression that they could read. They fell away from him as from something uncanny, and went into privacy to discuss him. One said:
“’Pears to be a fool.”
“’Pears?” said another. “Is, I reckon you better say.”
“Said he wished he owned half of the dog, the idiot,” said a third. “What did he reckon would become of the other half if he killed his half? Do you reckon he thought it would live?”
-The Tragedy of Pudd’nhead Wilson, Mark Twain

tim maguire said...

As somebody who comports myself well on twitter but has few followers because I make zero effort to cultivate followers, I object to using number of followers as a proxy for quality (there's a formula for gaining followers and quality tweets is not really part of that formula).

But to the main point--that is obviously a joke. How stupid is Josh Marshall that he thinks that was a serious tweet? How low an opinion of general intelligence does he have to have to maintain the delusion that he is smarter than most?

Yancey Ward said...

Josh Marshall would have no shots at all if there weren't cheap ones available. The man is a mental midget.

Left Bank of the Charles said...

A higher quality cheap shot: “I just repainted our bathroom. saved time but putting on the 3rd coat first.”

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

For a good example of cheap shots done right, targeted to her audience, just see Elizabeth Warren’s twitter feed this week.

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

Do not question
Big Pharma
Big Media
Big Pelosi

Obey.

JPS said...

Good lord, the sneering superiority and/or condescending pity in the responses.

I assumed, as you did, the man was making a somewhat lame joke. Like hey, why don't they make soap bars hollow so you don't have that useless skinny little piece you get down to at the end; or, Always in the last place you look, hey?

But even if he wasn't – and I see the original tweet is gone now – this is a good example of where you find the dumbest person you disagree with, hold him up to your allies and say, "See what we're up against?" It's all very motivational.

Lurker21 said...

Twitter is Plato's Cave. People respond to shadows on the wall, and never get at whatever the actual reality is. Somebody somewhere is always saying something I can indignantly take offense at, so I never have to bother finding out what the facts are -- and in my righteous wrath, I don't even have to be able to spot humor and satire when I see it.

Jake said...

I'm struggling to understand what this post is about. Can someone please explain it to me?

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

He blocked me when I was there. Not before I manipulated him into following me, however. That’s what it became for me after awhile. When I tried to change it, how I was interacting with others, my numbers/stats pretty much plateau for months and months.
Then, when they started purging so called conservatives I saw an opportunity to leave with a sort of “look at me I’m leaving in protest”. Some things never change.

Joe Smith said...

'And what's the deal with the black box? It's the only part of the airplane to survive the crash. Why don't they just make the whole plane out of the black box?'

Old joke:

The odds of a bomb on an airplane are 1 in 10,000,000. The odds of two bombs on an airplane are 1 in 100,000,000,000.

Which is why you should always bring a bomb on an airplane.

narciso said...

josh pornhub marshall, one might think if you need a third shot, you're doing it wrong,

Howard said...

It's only a cheap shot if you think the target is weak, helpless and incompetent. Therefore it an even greater cheap shot to call it a cheap shot.

Paul Zrimsek said...

If the person in charge of fact-checking the Babylon Bee ever quits, they know where to find a replacement.

Ron Winkleheimer said...

Everybody thinks they have a sense of humor, but a fairly large percentage are wrong.

Achilles said...

Jake said...

I'm struggling to understand what this post is about. Can someone please explain it to me?

Leftists desperately desire to tell everyone what to do.

In order to tell other people what to do they try to convince everyone they are the smartest people and Top Men.

It is core to their goals and their world paradigm that they be perceived as more intelligent than the people they want to tell what to do.

Thus they pretend to not get jokes and "fact check" satire in order to achieve this goal.

It ends up in insular circle jerks of people trying to tell themselves their tribe is smarter than that other tribe.

Rollo said...

I have never heard of Josh Marshall, at least not any famous ones. I do vaguely recall someone named "Joshua Micah Marshall" back in the early days of the internet. I can't remember anything he said and haven't heard of him since.

When you're a blue check on the skids, what you once might have thought to be punching down comes to look like punching sideways or even punching up. Fresh and provocative opinions are a commentator's stock in trade and a personality is money in the bank for a celebrity, and if you lose those things it's tough. One can achieve fame being original, but to keep a following one has to run with a mob, and if both one's originality and one's fan base dry up, what's left?

"Bad comedy" is a big category. The tweet might not be something you might not tweet out, but it's not something I'd be ashamed of saying or thinking. It's a lot like the "why don't they make the whole plane put of that" joke about the indestructible black box.

effinayright said...

Real American said...
And what's the deal with the black box? It's the only part of the airplane to survive the crash. Why don't they just make the whole plane out of the black box?
************

In the same vein: what are the odds that Lou Gehrig would later die of "Lou Gehrig's disease"?

effinayright said...

Or how about in Steve Martin in an Inspector Clouseau remake, where Clouseau asks what the odds are that the murder victim lying in the street would fall inside the chalk marks outlining his body?

God of the Sea People said...

The Covid vaccine is the ultimate cheap shot. They gave me mine for free!

readering said...

Was wondering how Marshall (fyi a fantastically successful blogger from the '00s) ran across the now deleted tweet in the first place. Perhaps because it appears to have been a response to this tweet.

Ana Cabrera
@AnaCabrera
·
Dec 15
NEW: A third dose of Moderna’s Covid-19 vaccine offers protection against the Omicron variant that’s 20 times better than the antibody response of two doses, according to a study from the National Institutes of Health.

Finally got my boost this week. Now for a senior flu shot.

sean said...

Poe's Law.

Butkus51 said...

Why dont they build airplanes out of the same material as the black box? AKA an old joke.

Chris Lopes said...

"UPDATE: The man with 51 Twitter followers seems to have deleted his tweet."

Thank goodness some defenseless nobody was put in his place by his intellectual and moral supervisors. There is no better way to show your tolerance than pretending to not get a (weak) joke so you can hold the joker up to ridicule for the "entertainment" of your arrogant elitist fuck buddies. I am appropriately impressed.

Rabel said...

The low-trust, conspiratorial thinking and just bullshit twitter guy is African American.

Obviously, Marshall saw the man's photo on the twitter post and made assumptions which reflected his racist view of African American intellectual abilities and this caused him to miss the joke.

Jake said...

Thanks, Achilles.

Bunkypotatohead said...

90% of the news is finding out someone died who you never knew existed.
Some guy I never heard of is bitching about what some other guy I never heard of tweeted. And it gets reported here so the rest of us can get in a few digs.
What did people do before the internet?

Will Cate said...

Josh Marshall: once an asshole, always an asshole

boatbuilder said...

Who, again, is Josh Marshall?

Bob Boyd said...

Who, again, is Josh Marshall?

A humor scold and wannabe Lia Thomas of Meangirling...apparently.

Brian McKim and/or Traci Skene said...

When comedy advances the struggle, it's "speaking truth to power."

When it doesn't, it's "a mix of low-trust, conspiratorial thinking and just bullshit."

Marshall probably knows this.

He's a cranky, whiny, little bitch who sobs when his world view is ridiculed.

This is why we have the Wolf Blitzers of the world "fact-checking" SNL sketches when they speak poorly of the light-bringer.

It used to be, "Laugh or don't." (Comedy is subjective.)

Now, it's "That's not funny." (Comedy not in service to The State is "not funny.")

Soon, it'll be, "That's dangerous talk." (Actually, this kind of talk has been around for decades. There was an book by a couple of academics, back in the late-80s, that sought to connect the comedy of Andrew Dice Clay, Sam Kinison and Bob Goldthwait with "bigotry and bloodshed." True story. One ridiculous "activist" said that comedy clubs were "dark basements full of angry men." They've been setting up standup as violence for a long time.)

Josh Marshall is fails to get the joke on purpose because only when you completely erase the benign intentions of the joker can you ascribe sinister motives.


Brian McKim and/or Traci Skene said...

Marshall met deliberate obtuseness (in the service of a joke) with deliberate obtuseness (in the service of defending and preserving of his ideology).

Drago said...

readering: "Was wondering how Marshall (fyi a fantastically successful blogger from the '00s)..."

Brian McKim and/or Traci Skene: "When comedy advances the struggle, it's "speaking truth to power."

When it doesn't, it's "a mix of low-trust, conspiratorial thinking and just bullshit."

Marshall probably knows this.

He's a cranky, whiny, little bitch who sobs when his world view is ridiculed."

Brian, Marshall being a cranky, whiny little b**** who sobs when his world view is ridiculed is PRECISELY why he was such a "fantastically successful blogger from the '00s"...to the lefties.

Its their calling card.