From "Statement by President Joe Biden on Texas Law SB8" (The White House).
September 1, 2021
"The Texas law will significantly impair women’s access to the health care they need, particularly for communities of color and individuals with low incomes."
"And, outrageously, it deputizes private citizens to bring lawsuits against anyone who they believe has helped another person get an abortion, which might even include family members, health care workers, front desk staff at a health care clinic, or strangers with no connection to the individual."
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"Health care" = "Abortions"?
Interesting.
The Texas law will significantly impair women’s access to the health care they need
Well, a dishonest liar is going to lie.
Abortion is not really health care, and I have always felt there was a dishonesty in characterising it that way. One might describe it as economically advisable, or defending a woman's freedom of action, or "life" care in some very broad sense, but it is not health care, except in rare circumstances which do not usually apply. Cosmetic surgery is performed by doctors, and is not always vanity, but it is similarly not "health" care.
"...will significantly impair [our ability] to reduce the population of people of color and individuals with low income."
I saw a comment re: outrage in an earlier post, Joe…
LOL. LOLOL! That subhead paragraph is a beaut. I thought we were supposed to be snitching on all nonconformists on the virus, on the insurrection, on failing to donate to the Pelosi Foundation, on reading Orwell books, and whatever else the Resistance is up to these days.
"...particularly for communities of color and individuals with low incomes."
So amongst everything else Biden is a Eugenicists too.
That part of the law is outrageous- I fully agree with Biden's statement writer on that part. Third parties have no place in enforcing or profiting from this or any other law- I think a lof of us can agree with that, but the Democrats are a bunch of hypocrites in this particular regard- there are plenty of laws that allow third party lawsuits in pursuit of those committing criminal malfeasance, and lots of money gets made doing so.
I think Roe vs Wade was terrible law-making by the Burger Court, and I don't think the Texas law or any other that works to limit or eliminate is really unconstitutional, but given our state of legal corruption, the law is whatever SCOTUS says it is. If tomorrow SCOTUS issued a decision saying abortion itself is unconstitutional, I would disagree with that on the same grounds I disagree with Roe, but the Roe supporters would immediately change their arguments to fight the new "law".
After reading that, all I could think of was this quote:
"[Mr. Biden], what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
Everyone is looking at this in terms of what federal courts will do; whether this Texas law will stand, and what it means for jurisprudence under the Roe v Wade line of cases.
Now, I’m a Republican, who has always thought that the federal courts’ takeover of abortion policy was a bad idea, that led inexorably to absolutist legal determinations that blew up more natural legislative/compromise policies.
And of course this Texas legislation is about nothing so much as absolutist litigation strategy. It is more stunt, than serious policy.
With that out there, I think Texas Republicans will be like the car-chasing dog that caught the car. I’m a lot less concerned about what happens with this case, than I am interested in what moderate Republicans and swing voters throughout Texas will do with their votes in response to the Republicans who passed the bill.
Democrats always tie the abortion issue to communities of color and low income people.
Do we know if such individuals take advantage of abortions (funded however) more than middle class communities of paleness?
Corrected title for the piece: "Statement by Joe's backroom handlers, and presented by President Joe Biden on Texas Law SB8"
And just why will this law impair, in particular, "communities of color and individuals with low incomes"? Was this law written in such a way that these individuals seeking abortions will somehow receive less "health care" than richer/whiter women seeking abortions? Of course not. What they are trying to imply is that the law as written is discriminatory to these individuals, when the truth behind the statement, which they don't want to come out and say directly, is that these individuals - as cohorts - tend to have more abortions that those outside their respective cohorts. It is only discriminatory in the sense that the 'individuals' are to a very large extent self-selecting. You might as well argue that laws against shoplifting are discriminatory to those 'individuals' that have kleptomaniacal tendencies.
"The Texas law will significantly impair women’s access to the health care they need, particularly for communities of color and individuals with low incomes."
Serious Questions
HOW, is This NOT Racist? (And Classist?)
HOW does the law "impair" access for Bipods and Poor folk; MORE than it does others?
WHY does pResident Jo Biden WANT MORE Abortions for non-white non-rich folk?
Can you say Eugenics ?? Wanting to KILL Black Babies is BAD
They passed the law to keep Democrats from moving to Texas and ruining the state.
The usual suspects are throwing the kitchen sink at this...they don't even think about their words...how does this affect 'queer' folks?
"...particularly for communities of color and individuals with low incomes."
Is there a single topic that doesn't require this appendage?
My local news broadcast is doing this almost every night, alongside the national news. Every single bad thing on earth is worse for communities of color. Now, where that is genuinely true, then I agree that it should be a matter of concern. Lets talk about root causes if we're allowed. But at some point, it's far too contrived to take seriously.
I'd love to hear, just once, how a problem is bad "...particularly for communities of whiteness and individuals with middle-of-the-road incomes."
Blogger Chuck said...
Now, I’m a Republican, who has always thought that the federal courts’ takeover of abortion policy was a bad idea, that led inexorably to absolutist legal determinations that blew up more natural legislative/compromise policies.
And of course this Texas legislation is about nothing so much as absolutist litigation strategy. It is more stunt, than serious policy.
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Suggest your compromise that respects that heartbeat.
"Now, I’m a Republican,"
The funniest thing you'll see on the internet all day…
Chuck said...
Now, I’m a Republican,
Thanx Chuck! it's always good, to hear a hilarious joke : )
'"...particularly for communities of color and individuals with low incomes."
Is there a single topic that doesn't require this appendage?'
I don't know who made this joke first, but it goes something like this:
'Asteroid to strike earth and extinguish all life: women and minorities hardest hit.'
"...particularly for communities of color and individuals with low incomes."
Is there a single topic that doesn't require this appendage?"
Reminds me of this famous fake headline some wag came up with a few years ago:
“World Ends Tomorrow!” Women and minorities hardest hit!"
Of course Chuck is saying "now I'm a Republican". As Biden shits in bed after bed, Chuck will eventually claim to have had no strong feelings about the last election. He may even disappear like a fart in wind. He is already claiming he didn't vote for Biden.
"You might as well argue that laws against shoplifting are discriminatory...."
I'm not sure you have been paying attention. [Even though I agree with your post.]
'Lots of leftists today are insisting that the Texas abortion ban is an attack on women but seem to have forgotten that women don’t exist and literally anyone can get pregnant. You can’t have it both ways, dummies. Pick one lane of crazy or the other.'
He has a point, you know...
pro-marxist LLR Chuck: "Now, I’m a Republican,....."
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
pro open Borders, abortion on demand, obamacare, new green deal fanboy, Permanent booster of all democraticals and democratical policies who proclaimed his desire for democrats to win at all levels of government for the next 50 years once again claims, hilariously, that he is a "republican".
Poor LLR Chuck.
It will never, ever be 2015 again when he had a few of the Althouse community fooled as to what he is really all about.
Women in the black community are disproportionately likely to have abortions - 34% of all abortions while they are 12% of all Americans. For this reason any law which decreases the number of abortions will impact the number of black women having abortions disproportionately. But here's the thing - the consequence of the disproportionate numbers of women in the black community having abortions has been that the black community is decreasing in absolute numbers as well as proportionately in relation to other minority communities. So Texas is saving the black community in Texas from gradual extinction. This is a good thing. And I don't know why Biden wants to continue the gradual extinction of black community caused by the disproportionate number of abortions in the black community. That was what the eugenicists who founded Planned Parenthood wanted; that was why Margaret Sanger gave a talk at a KKK meeting. But why Biden? Of course, while he supports abortion "choice" which is killing the black community he's allowing the teachers unions to make education policy opposing school choice so that black kids who escape abortion can't escape bad schools. And if they're good kids and escape all that and serve this country with honor, he lets them get bombed in Afghanistan. Is it all dementia? Who are the men behind Biden?
And, outrageously, it deputizes private citizens to bring lawsuits against anyone who they believe has helped another person get an abortion,
This illustrates how bad the "news" has become.
When driving I often play news roulette. bouncing between the news channels on sirius radio. I heard this story a dozen times, and not once did anyone explain how the law was structured in an attempt to keep legal challenges at bay. That includes legal scholars, ignoring the structure of the law to launch into emotional appeals. Just another data point in my mind proving the media is rarely accurate more often intentionally deceiving in order to push an agenda.
But in general, the constitution is structured to accomplish exactly this.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
I especially like. "or to the people"
Yawn…the entity suing Texas to overturn the law is a third party.
I spent last night thinking of medical work arounds for this horrific law, until it is rectified in the courts.
So, this is what I would tell my daughter or her friends if they were in Texas.
[I know this isn't enough, but as a mom, and doctor, I am sharing my thoughts].
Get on Birth Control
Now.
Any form that is reliable.
Oral Contraceptives, Nuva Ring, Norplant, IUD.
Something.
Now.
Use condoms.
With the birth control.
Every single time.
No exceptions.
[This is good practice for STI protection anyway]
-advice from
Dara Kass MD
(Common sense to most people. Funny, that we are told they don't use abortion as Birth control though.)
Last time I checked the US averaged 59 live births per 1,000 women of childbearing age (annually). For blacks it was 61. So whatever effect abortion may have, you can’t call it racial genocide.
I can't wait until they get to *VIRUS* mask mandates.
Yancey Ward: "He is already claiming he didn't vote for Biden."
Maybe the Reid Hoffman "FakeCon" blogger crew has simply changed out the dude playing "Lifelong republican".
Maybe Chuck is getting busier at Whitmer Reelection Headquarters.
There are people "on the right" who worry about "dysgenics"--basically, stupid people with poor impulse control are having more babies than other people, leading to a population that is increasingly unable to accomplish things.
Ironically, this law will probably speed up that process.
The left sees abortion as “health care” because it sees pregnancy as a disease.
"There are people "on the right" who worry about "dysgenics"--basically, stupid people with poor impulse control are having more babies than other people, leading to a population that is increasingly unable to accomplish things."
Actually, that's more of a "progressive" thing. Eugenics was a turn of the (19th to 20th) century movement to ensure only the "correct" people had babies. The "incorrect" included blacks, Hispanics, and immigrants from such non-waspian hell holes like Ireland, Italy, and eastern Europe. It went along with the idea of improving society using "scientific" principles.
Among it's achievements was something called the Birth Control League, which became Planned Parenthood.
"He is already claiming he didn't vote for Biden."
Really? I missed that gem.
Not to take one side or the other directly, but the bill impacts people with low incomes more directly because it's harder for them to travel out of state to a doctor who wouldn't be impacted by the law.
OR, if you're wealthy enough, you can just tack on the extra $10000 rather than try to defend against the lawsuit.
hey, Joe found some more black lives that don't matter - the unborn ones.
Don't worry, Joe. The baby slaughter will continue apace.
@Chris Lopes - In my experience, it is people "on the right" who are willing to talk about "dysgenics". You are absolutely right that "eugenics" was popular among the original Progressives. Indeed, the idea was popular across the political spectrum. Yet today's left shrinks from the word like vampires shrink from garlic.
Now, there may be some unconscious knowledge that legal abortion keeps the poor from having so many babies but it is suppressed, the same way it is suppressed that moving to "where the schools are good" also means moving where there aren't many blacks.
There's a eugenics of the right and a eugenics of the left. Margaret Sanger, a Socialist and a member of the American Eugenics Society in 1956, embodies the eugenics of the left. The left wanted abortion available to all and the left eugenicists argued that this could be eugenic if people were sold on the idea that abortion was particularly needed by poor women. The right wanted abortion available to dysgenic women as measured by IQ. Left and right eugenicists then realized then that each could sell abortion to its own side by presenting different reasons as "the real, valid reason," for "choice"; and in both cases the same group, women from the black community, would end up having a disproportionate number of abortions and both wanted this same group to have a disproportionate number of abortions. So choice diminishes the black community but each side can be sanctimonious about its reasons for supporting the diminishment. This is social marketing's greatest triumph since "Work makes you free" was made the slogan of slave labor camps.
I'm PRE-choice.
“Abortion is not really health care”
In the contemporary dispensation, everything is health care.
Feel bad about yourself? See a psychiatrist (MD). Who is sure to find a DSM entry that describes your psychiatric (medical) problem. And recommend a psychiatric (health care) solution for it.
Did your brother get shot in the street (perhaps when a nearby drug deal went bad)? Call public health authorities, they’ll remind you gun violence is an “epidemic” public health problem.
Just as any noun can be verbed, any problem can be medicalized. And will be, if/when it suits someone’s political or personal agenda.
(We abolished all those old gods and devils by refusing to believe in them, only to have them reappear within the secular religion of scientism. We've not so much banished these old gods and devils as given them new, "scientific" names.)
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