Hi @joerogan! Glad you’re enjoying my page! 🤩 pic.twitter.com/KOvblUkmEE
— Libs of Tik Tok (@libsoftiktok) August 15, 2021
"There was a girl on the Libs of TikTok who had beads — different color beads — to wear that indicated which gender she identified with and how she's feeling because her gender changed multiple times a day"/"It's like a mood ring!"
Here's the video that was referred to. I need to stress that I strongly object to calling this "mental illness." Two big reasons: 1. It's disrespectful and discouraging to the many real people who struggle with mental disabilities, and 2. It's presuming the mental condition of a performer and impairing your ability to perceive critique and humor.
Mental illness in a nutshell pic.twitter.com/4SCq7xfOiq
— Libs of Tik Tok (@libsoftiktok) August 8, 2021
TikTok is full of young actors playing with characters. Maybe slow down and listen. Consider the possibilities.
Maybe Joe Rogan needs a set of bracelets to wear —
• yellow — I think everything's a big joke.
• red — I get the comedy done in the style of me and my friends and all the rest of you are our prey.
• blue — not a damn thing is funny in this fucked-up world.
And I want to add purple — obviously the best one — I listen to everything, think from many perspectives, see humor and attempts at humor, and make fine-tuned individual decisions about who to attack in public, taking into account the age and experience of the performer and leaning toward punching up and not down.
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Compare what that young woman is going through daily to what might be happening to a young woman of her age in, say, Kabul. It's hard to take the Tik-Tok one seriously.
There may be performers mixed in, but there is a lot of legitimate mental illness playing itself out as social justice activism on social media. This woman is a tough call which she is--the level of lunacy, the inability to tell the difference between what is important and what is not is not as good an indicator as it used to be (or as it should be). But note that she refers to blue as a masculine color and pink as a feminine color. A true believer who is well versed in the lingo would not have said that. Of course, she could still be a true believer who simply isn't as careful as she should be.
FWIW, Jordan Peterson would have been considered center left as recently as the 1990s. He's a professional clinical/analytical psychologist in the tradition of Freud and Jung. Their views were absolutely wild versus historical Christian conservatism --per the left's secular critique of religion as "the superstitions of old." This was indeed mainstream leftism of the mid 20th Century (i.e., when Peterson came of age).
Until the 1990s the mantra of clinical psychology was to address "maladaptive behavior" and ensure "whole persons functioning" to face life's challenges. For example, homosexuality was very much seen as potentially positive or negative (e.g., as sometimes arising with childhood abuse and sometimes an apparent in-born variation of humanity). There were nuances and gray areas. The underlying goal of treatment was about helping people live better lives, and it wasn't political by intent.
Just a few decades ago the left explicitly advocated the opposite of what's accepted today, and has adopted the very practices they criticized quite recently. Stand still and the political wheel will rotate around you.
She's very funny and I am sure she is pleased that a big fish like Joe Rogan fell for it. Either that or we are doomed as a species. I am going with the former.
All the good colors are taken. My bracelet would have mirror beads, I guess. I used to like snarky assholes best when I was a snarky young asshole, but now that I'm a grumpy old fart, grumpy old farts rule.
I'm not a doctor so I can't speak to actual mental illness (although it's easy to spot in screaming bums on the streets of San Francisco), but there does seem to be some sort of cult-like, mass hysteria going on centered on gender, homosexuality, etc.
Maybe it's a fine line, but there are too many seemingly unhinged people acting out in a public manner for this to be purely random, given the number of people who have historically been affected by these types of issues.
Part of it seems to be because it results in more clicks and positive feedback/affirmation from like minded people, and now corporations and government.
If you reward bad behavior you will get more of it...
I just starting reading Hemingway's "In the Garden of Eden". I wanted to read a bit of it after watching a documentary about Hemingway that mentioned that he was secretly into gender bending sex with his wives. It's that disparity between his public persona and private life that is of interest.
The book is not very good - that's probably one reason why he didn't publish it while alive. The "girl" wife goes inanely on and on about how bad she is for being a "boy" in bed and getting a boy's haircut. Sort of like the "girl" in the tik-tok video.
I’m with Rogan on this one. Your criticism seems uncharacteristically brittle and prim. “Mental illness” is now off limits as a characterization of the narcissistic primping of a silly young woman who should know better?
Calling her a “performer” or "actor" is conceding too much. Where is the self-awareness that would suggest “critique and humor” in her pathetic self-regard?
I think you’re giving her a “participation trophy.” Ridicule can serve the valuable function of reasserting the boundaries of serious discourse and consideration. That young woman’s problem is that she has encountered too little ridicule.
Joe Rogan with a cigar! He ranks right up there with Rush Limbaugh in smarts and ego.
As in: "My dog's bigger than your dog!" and "My day will come."
I dunno. I see it as an indictment of our schools. But then I see much of society's bullshit as an indictment of our schools. She's not crazy. Just a regular young person who is coming through our education system. Even if she's trying to be funny- she's not. Because that, too, has not been allowed for some time.
Due to the thickness of my head, I think she does an xlnt job of punking "That Which Shall Not Be Punked."
- PM
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Rogan isn't punching down. She posted the video. What, she has no agency? Also, as he is discovering, he has already had his autonomy taken away from hm by choosing to use a platform, though if he didn't make that "choice," YouTube would have banned him eventually.
She doesn't seem insane to me: she seems to know precisely how much she can destroy people who refuse her incoherent demands. Try being her untenured composition teacher. See how that feels when you're literally dragged on the rug by these little fascists.
It's also not punching down when your boss is forcing you -- not him, but you -- to sit through this child and her million proxies clear understanding that she can make you lose your job or your credit rating or your child's chance to get into a college if you so much as snicker at her narcissistic and increasingly impossible to conform-with pronoun commands.
Give her a few years. She'll still have that squeaky voice, but she'll also have the keys to your prison cell.
TikTok girl has apologized for something in that video. She is sorry that she called blue/green masculine and pink/purple feminine. That is the part that she got angry comments about.
I think she's performing in the sense that she is doing and saying things that will get her likes and followers. I don't see it as satire. (I base this on views of her other videos. I could be wrong, but I see no evidence of that kind of humor there.)
"Think from many perspectives." That's a good practice, and an increasingly rare one. When I was her age, my identity was more fluid than solid. Does it ever truly solidify?
For a minute I thought Althouse (formerly TOP) had caught that's-not-funny variant of wokeism-19. Sometimes all i have is a bad joke, a poor joke. There are no bad jokes there are poor taste jokes and those are not the same as politically incorrect jokes. But, like I was saying, sometimes that's all i got. And Althouse shuts me down. #Istandwithmymediocrejokes. Mediocre jokes are people too you know. If it wasn't for mediocre jokes, how we know what was a great joke? You gotta let in the mediocre with the good and the great professor. You can't just eat caviar all the time. Not everybody is Rodney Dangerfield. end of rant.
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