Althouse: At the Saturday Night Café...

April 3, 2021

At the Saturday Night Café...

... you can talk about whatever you want.

78 comments:

Big Mike said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 4/3/21, 8:30 PM
Big Mike said...: UCLA seems to be unaware that Gonzaga should be blowing them out. Good game.; 4/3/21, 8:41 PM
Andrew said...: I haven't had time to read previous cafes and comments from the past few days, so I don't know how much this has been discussed.

I watched the evening news on NBC the night of the recent Capitol incident that killed a police officer. I had learned about what happened from Twitter, where it was revealed that the perpetrator was a member of the Nation of Islam.

The NBC broadcast (led by Lester Holt) put the officer's murder in the context of the January 6 "insurrection." They showed three separate video clips from January 6. They referred briefly to the social media posts of the murderer, and if you read the example they provided, you could see "Nation of Islam," but they didn't highlight that. They highlighted words that could demonstrate mental illness.

Personally, I don't agree with guilt by association. But we all know if this had been a MAGA supporter killing a cop at the Capitol, the connection and presumed motive would have been announced from the rooftops.

Meanwhile, that incident has now faded from the news. I wonder how many updates we'll hear on the motive behind the attack? Most likely, "mental illness" will be the sufficient explanation.; 4/3/21, 8:47 PM
Achilles said...: Soon the IRS will be militarized.; 4/3/21, 9:03 PM
Iman said...: It is a good game, Big Mike. I keep thinking Gonzaga is going to pull away, but UCLA is hanging with ‘em!; 4/3/21, 9:08 PM
Narr said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 4/3/21, 9:13 PM
narciso said...: Now the nation of islam, are particularly weird cats a cult that had connection tpjapanese patriotic societies, almost as weird as the yahweh ben yahweh blood cult.; 4/3/21, 9:19 PM
Jersey Fled said...: Last I heard there were more than 2000 instances where the media described the January 6 riots as an "armed insurrection". Yet as far as I know, there were no weapons confiscated by the police and no one has been charged with a firearms offense.; 4/3/21, 9:22 PM
narciso said...: Quanon is like the embryo creature of thw martian resistance; 4/3/21, 9:29 PM
Ken B said...: Which country most fully embraced the Yancey Ward/Drago/Michael K approach to covid? Brazil.
https://twitter.com/zorinaq/status/1378227118434263040; 4/3/21, 9:36 PM
hawkeyedjb said...: "Meanwhile, that incident has now faded from the news."

I said it would be buried by Friday. I was right, but then, not a tough prediction.; 4/3/21, 9:55 PM
Readering said...: Overtime!; 4/3/21, 9:59 PM
Narr said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 4/3/21, 10:00 PM
Readering said...: Heartbreak! (For Bruins); 4/3/21, 10:15 PM
Michael K said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 4/3/21, 10:18 PM
Big Mike said...: I feel bad for UCLA, but only one team can advance. Losing to a top-seeded team by a buzzer beater in overtime is nothing to be ashamed of.; 4/3/21, 10:23 PM
Yancey Ward said...: I see Karen B has returned. Brazil is doing exactly as bad as every other South American country, Karen B, of any size. What makes you think Brazil was ever going to be a success regardless of what they did? They aren't doing worse than most of the other big countries of the world, by the way. I don't know why you keep thinking they are. The numbers are big because there are over 200 million Brazilians- about 2/3s the size of the US and three times the size of the UK, France, and Italy each.

The proper comparisons are the the states of Florida vs New York, or Texas vs California. Or Sweden vs anybody with more than 30 million people. You continuously try to cherry pick your comparisons, even when they don't make any sense. Hell, Brazil has done better than New York or New Jersey so far. What say you, Karen B- should we have followed the policies you advocated for, like New York and New Jersey?; 4/3/21, 10:27 PM
Yancey Ward said...: The Yahoo play by play said the game was won on a 34 foot three pointer at the buzzer. Wow. I might actually have to break down and watch the last play and end my college basketball fast for just this night.; 4/3/21, 10:29 PM
mockturtle said...: Just recovering from the game. Wow, what a finish! Go Zags! But I'm a little nervous about Monday, as Baylor totally owned Houston and are better than I expected.

Also, go lady Wildcats [AZ] tomorrow!; 4/3/21, 10:29 PM
Drago said...: Ken B: "Which country most fully embraced the Yancey Ward/Drago/Michael K approach to covid"

Once one has allowed himself to slip down the rabbit hole with Lunatic Liar Inga, there really is no recovery from that.

One can either admit that for the first time in human history, quarantining the healthy and destroying the world economy and sentencing hundreds of millions of children to abject poverty and early death was not the moral or ethical choice.

Ken B lacks the courage to admit this and so he must constantly attempt to maintain the illusion that he was not part of the moronic sheep-like mob that allowed this and has caused unimaginable harm to those hundreds of millions while simutaneously helping to usher in the means by which the far left and big tech and repressive government actors will implement their brave new world.

Yes Ken B, I imagine you will need to spend ever more time each day convincing yourself you were correct in your horrendous decision-making processes.; 4/3/21, 10:35 PM
Rt41Rebel said...: "Go up to the the frozen north and fuck off"

The silver lining of Covid for me is that pale-blue Canadians couldn't winter in FL for the last two seasons.; 4/3/21, 10:35 PM
madAsHell said...: Wow. I might actually have to break down and watch the last play and end my college basketball fast for just this night.

It was a Hail Mary. Nothing but luck!! Go Zags!!; 4/3/21, 10:36 PM
Big Mike said...: Are the COVID death rates exaggerated? Essentially.zero deaths from any other cause seems strange. A few months back I read a complaint by a mother that her son was supposed to have died from COVID, and the bullets shot in his head didn’t have nothin’ to do with his death.

Ken B. will attack me next, I reckon. He figures he’s safe enough as long as that idiot Trudeau keeps the border with the US locked down.; 4/3/21, 10:37 PM
Drago said...: "COVID pushes millions more children deeper into poverty, new study finds
COVID-19 and its fallout has pushed millions around the world deeper into poverty. According to UNICEF, many families are experiencing levels of deprivation they have never seen before.

The coronavirus pandemic has pushed an additional 150 million children into multidimensional poverty – deprived of education, health, housing, nutrition, sanitation or water – a new UN study has found."

Ken B's only regret?

It wasnt a billion shoved into abject poverty with no possibility of hope.; 4/3/21, 10:43 PM
Readering said...: Opening line 4.5; 4/3/21, 10:49 PM
Yancey Ward said...: "One can either admit that for the first time in human history, quarantining the healthy and destroying the world economy and sentencing hundreds of millions of children to abject poverty and early death was not the moral or ethical choice."

I think that basically nails the problem with Karen B. Other than the masking thing, Tim in VT at least came around to the idea that the lockdowns and school closures were idiotic and counterproductive. We are only now seeing the deaths the lockdowns and panic caused, all of which Karen B supported. Deaths from heart disease increased by 31,000 last year after only increasing by 22,000 total from 2015 to 2019. That right there is 25,000 excess deaths on the tally stick of the Karens. Cancer will speak up starting this year as all the missed checkups and screens caused by the shuttering of the medical facilities to all but emergencies and COVID lead to increased deaths. And we are only just now getting a sense from the third world of the problems caused by disruption of the typical food aid they would have received in a more rational world.

He won't get the credit he deserves, but Trump did save us from a calamity. If he hadn't pushed to open up the country last April and May- we were that close to going over the edge. His example gave the red state governors the cover to open back up and allow the rest of the Chicken Littles to hide in their basements for the last year. Half the country could shut down for a year because the other half didn't, and saved their sorry asses from a complete disaster.; 4/3/21, 10:50 PM
I Have Misplaced My Pants said...: My favorite thing on Twitter today was that Polish pastor screaming at the public health bitch and nutless wonder cops, in Asscrack, Canada, to get out of his church. And they did.

That’s the way to do it, kids.; 4/3/21, 10:53 PM
DINKY DAU 45 said...: It just doesn't seem to make any sense why the Republican groups of people want to cancel everything.1st it was cancel(boycott)NFL because players were kneeling and then the NBA same reason and then NASCAR because they wanted to eliminate the Confederate flag from flying and now I read they want to cancel MLB (ALL STAR GAME, 1 GAME being played in Georgia) because Georgia and states all around the country working to pass voter suppression laws say over 200 and more corporations from Microsoft to Coca Cola and when big $$$ starts calling it out,look out,EF HUTTON HEARS! .You would think with all things going on canceling events around the country is a waste of time. It's really infrastructure time now, not just something they said for last four years weekly with no effort to do anything about the crumbling state of cities and towns. Why keep coming up with a new saying every week, cancel culture=subject to ostracism? woke =we need to stay angry and woke? Got to lose the anger and become part of a solution and not the problem, would probably be more conducive to prosperity for our great Republic if elective representatives tried to work together huh, I know what an idea right. Ya can't keep saying No but then take the dough and claim you helped, most folks aren't that lame to believe that, most I say . C'mon lets go, time finally to get things done got a good start now lets go Infrastructure week finally and now that Mitch says absolutely no votes just obstruction ,just like the Rescue bill its going to be reconciliation again, oh well, that's a choice for Mitch and the gang, just get er done. The grim reaper has been demoted. Mitch's graveyard of progression is being usurped. Beaucoup Dinky Dau from this group of people. Easter tomorrow, Jesus doesn't have to be the only miracle of being RAISED UP.(of course that's only for believers) Raise up the country by working for the people not the big $$$$,you know represent. Raise it up, too many bitter old curmudgeons spoiling the soup. :); 4/3/21, 10:54 PM
n said...: Lenten Rose posted as the Exsultet was being chanted at The Easter Vigil tonight. Beautiful.; 4/3/21, 10:55 PM
Drago said...: DINKY DAU 45: "It just doesn't seem to make any sense why the Republican groups of people want to cancel everything"

I suppose it was inevitable that the maoist marxist racist democraticals, after spending decades transferring responsibility for slavery, Jim Crow and segregation from democraticals to republicans, would now seek to assign responsibity for the cancel culture they've established as a means to install their marxist world view to republicans as well as part of their ongoing gaslighting campaign.

I can recall being lectured at by Soviet officers as to the meaning of "true freedom" which was nothing more than justification for their creating slaves of entire nations.

Dinky's little missives are no different.; 4/3/21, 11:02 PM
Yancey Ward said...: Dinky Dick, try using paragraphs if you want anyone to read your stuff. I doubt even Inga would try to read that blob.; 4/3/21, 11:05 PM
Mark said...: Who were 95% NOI and who real Muslims (at least back in the 90s) saw as doofus losers and pretend Muslims.

If the Farrakhan people say they are Muslim, or the Jihadis say they are Muslim, what business is it of a non-Muslim to say that they are wrong? That seems rather arrogant to be the judge of the authenticity of someone else's religion.; 4/3/21, 11:07 PM
walter said...: Even with the visage of his home city enduring rona, Trump had sensible instinct enough to verbalize the potential damages lockdowns could bring. The "potential secondary side-effects" Da Fauch casually tossed aside.
For a guy known for firing folk, he needed to do more of that.; 4/3/21, 11:09 PM
Drago said...: Yancey Ward: "Dinky Dick, try using paragraphs if you want anyone to read your stuff. I doubt even Inga would try to read that blob."

Inga never reads nor understands anything, but she is always willing to link to content that has headlines that make her believe what she links to is making some sort of point....which she never makes explicit because she cant.

Which makes Ken B's moronic covid policy alignment with Inga much more understandable.....and not in a good way.; 4/3/21, 11:14 PM
walter said...: I think Da Fauch cozied up to Trump as a fellow distraught New Yawker (as opposed to Hildebeast fan) to grab influence.; 4/3/21, 11:17 PM
Rt41Rebel said...: Dinky seems to be a parody poster in the vein of American Politico, only more verbose and less readable.; 4/3/21, 11:19 PM
Yancey Ward said...: Yes, Trump should have sidelined or fired Fauci last February. There are lots of people Trump should have fired long ago, but didn't. However, I am sure Fauci blinded Trump with "science". There are still people who give Fauci credence even after he has contradicted himself a hundred times in the last year.; 4/3/21, 11:21 PM
walter said...: I just want to know who of the gangster noir set will play Da Fauch and Quo Moe in the movie.; 4/3/21, 11:21 PM
DavidUW said...: What season is it in Brazil?

Oh yeah. Fall. When cases climbed around the northern hemisphere to the winter peaks no what mask/lockdown policies were or weren’t followed.; 4/3/21, 11:21 PM
Yancey Ward said...: I am sure Karen B was a Cuomosexual. He may even have said so in the comments at some point in his panic.; 4/3/21, 11:22 PM
walter said...: Deace floated the notion that Da Fauch conformed to the zeitgeist vs framing it....demonstrated by shifting maskerade.; 4/3/21, 11:24 PM
Yancey Ward said...: To be fair, Brazil is bisected by the equator, so seasons aren't so different in the ways that matter- sunlight intensity and temperature. If you look, South America has been a COVID disaster the entire last year, even with some of the most strict lockdowns and mask mandates. It probably has something to do with the genetic profiles of the population and their overall poverty. Most of the continent is barely out of third world territory.; 4/3/21, 11:25 PM
walter said...: They need Joementia to demonstrate hand washing like in his presser.
Potent!; 4/3/21, 11:28 PM
Yancey Ward said...: So, I did see a twitter video link to Suggs' shot. It included the previous play, too. Probably UCLA should have just gone for three themselves at the end of the OT- win it or lose. I don't think enough teams consider that strategy when down by two with the ball.; 4/3/21, 11:29 PM
Francisco D said...: Take it easy on Karen B.

Zhe just wants to get gang banged. It is a phenomenon I first noticed with the Resident Idiot.

Some people will do anything for attention.; 4/3/21, 11:30 PM
walter said...: Scott Adams
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Cobb County voted for Biden. Biden supported moving the All Star Game from Cobb County. I would like to congratulate Cobb County residents for getting what they voted for. https://wsbtv.com/news/local/cobb-county/cobb-county-says-loss-all-star-game-will-cost-tourism-industry-over-100-million/6NPN3TIG6VHB7DZXFZDMNZG2YE/
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MLB requires photo ID to pick up tickets from Will Call, but boycotts Georgia for voter ID law; 4/3/21, 11:51 PM
Big Mike said...: Probably UCLA should have just gone for three themselves at the end of the OT- win it or lose. I don't think enough teams consider that strategy when down by two with the ball.

Maybe, but even the best three point shooters miss a lot. Plus Gonzaga had three key players in foul trouble.; 4/3/21, 11:51 PM
William said...: Let us have five persons of distinction and judgment to make a list of the three companies guilty of the most egregious or abusive examples of political correctness. Then have an awards night to announce the winner. Then, after the winner is announced, mount a full scale boycott of that company's products. The boycott will remain in effect until the company has lost three quarters of its previous stock value or one half of its gross revenues. If the CEO of the company commits suicide after the announcement, I don't think that would be sufficient to cancel the boycott. Maybe if the HR or PR departments went all Jonestown, that would be sufficient penance... Throughout the year the wise men could announce which companies are being given serious consideration for making the list and winning the award.....I don't know if this would work, but it's worth a shot.; 4/3/21, 11:59 PM
Ken B said...: Ah the Bolsonaro fans are yammering.
I won’t attack you Big Mike, you can stop cowering. But I will, as so often, mock you.
I see Yancey has added Brazilians to Michiganders and grandmas in the “basket of expendables”.; 4/4/21, 12:13 AM
Ken B said...: “I place half of the covid deaths in what I call the basket of expendables”; 4/4/21, 12:15 AM
Mutaman said...: "But we all know if this had been a MAGA supporter"

life is so unfair.; 4/4/21, 12:35 AM
Mutaman said...: "I might actually have to break down and watch the last play and end my college basketball fast for just this night."

Yancy hasn't watched since he saw Texas Western start 5 Black kids, It blew his fragile little mind.; 4/4/21, 12:49 AM
rcocean said...: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PYmgW_Sxbs; 4/4/21, 12:58 AM
BUMBLE BEE said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 4/4/21, 1:13 AM
BUMBLE BEE said...: rcocean Great choice. I've always loved Dolly. Compliments the flower as well.; 4/4/21, 1:17 AM
Gospace said...: If you believe the covid numbers from any nation outside North America (north of Mexico) and Europe, and not even all of Europe, you're delusional. Particularly if you believe the numbers showing how great Red China is doing. But, as Yancey Ward pointed out, Brazil id headed into winter as we head into summer. What happens to seasonal viruses as seasons change? In summer, the numbers go down, in winter, they go up. And -in summer, if you get one- it's generally less serious. If we had been open up all last summer we'd have achieved hear immunity.

But now, let's look at a map of covid that makes absolutely no sense to me. The rate of covid antibodies in blood donors. Now, what would make sense would be if states with similar lockdown/masking edits had similar rates. They do not. Or if states with similar climates had similar rates. They do not. Last week when I clicked on the large map, it was the same as the small map- today it's different. And still makes no sense. Looking at the scale, it appears we're looking at a 400% difference from the states with the least antibodies to the ones with most. That's a huge difference. Now I don't know how familiar you are with multi-gallon lifetime donors- at over 14 gallons, I'm one of them. In several places I've donated, there used to be pictures up on the wall of the 10, 15, and 20+ gallon donors. No more- the 10 gallon donors were mostly white Christian males, the 15 gallon and up exclusively so. So your longtime donors who supply most of the blood are a pretty uniform group across the country. Yet- this huge difference in covid antibodies. I'm 0 for 4 on antibody testing since the covidiocy began. One of my sons is 1 for 1. After testing negative twice when he actually had it. Yeah, BTW- TURST THE TESTS!

Every time I say "Young healthy people don't die of covid" some idiot jumps in and says "Yes they do". We actually have a control group for that. 1/3 of active duty military is under 26, <10% over 41. And- you have to be healthy. Some numbers to end this:
.0007692307692307692% active duty dreaded covid death rate (1/1.3 million)
.007777777777777778% total military death rate including NG and reserve (14/1.8 million)
.02166666666666667% reserve/NG rate (13/600000)
.15105740181269% US death rate approx (half million/331 million)
Note the order of magnitude difference between each of these.; 4/4/21, 1:24 AM
gadfly said...: Here is an important lesson to be learned regarding donations especially if a former President is involved. Never make a donation of any kind through a website for any reason. Send money using Paypal to the campaign. That way there can be no unintended agreement to make multiple payments since Paypal gives you total control and costs nothing to send.; 4/4/21, 1:48 AM
Mutaman said...: Here is an important lesson to be learned regarding donations especially if a particular former President is involved.

FIFY; 4/4/21, 1:59 AM
gadfly said...: I see where the some big cities have already replaced the Rush Limbaugh Redo Radio with other contracts. Atlanta, St Louis and Denver are three. So IHeartRadio is hiring Dan Bongino to host his own show in order to rescue the national broadcast. Never heard of him since his exposure is entirely Fox News and podcasts and I gave up on Trump lies five years ago. Noon to Three will continue to be my time to listen to music, since conservatism has virtually disappeared from talk radio.; 4/4/21, 2:24 AM
n.n said...: The CDC Admits I Was Right

There is a graph of cases in two Tennessee counties. One with a mask mandate, and the other without.

covid-cdc-study-finds-roughly-78percent-of-people-hospitalized-were-overweight-or-obese

So, "fat is beautiful" is a comorbidity, past, present, and progressive.

Postoperative wound infections and surgical face masks: a controlled study

Effectiveness of Adding a Mask Recommendation to Other Public Health Measures to Prevent SARS-CoV-2 Infection in Danish Mask Wearers

Physical interventions to interrupt or reduce the spread of respiratory viruses

Separately, a vaccine primes the immune system. For people who are infected or at risk, there are active therapeutics that prevent infection (e.g. HCQ) and mitigate (e.g. Ivermectin) disease progression.; 4/4/21, 2:34 AM
Mutaman said...: Eric Topol
@EricTopol
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Who would ever have thought that the same country that couldn't even get a covid test working and scalable for 2 months could vaccinate more than 4 million people in a day? Quite a turnaround.; 4/4/21, 3:35 AM
The Crack Emcee said...: NewAge Poop by The Crack Emcee is a great song - with decent visuals - even if I do say so myself.; 4/4/21, 3:45 AM
exhelodrvr1 said...: Happy Easter - Christ is risen!; 4/4/21, 5:19 AM
Ann Althouse said...: "Lenten Rose posted as the Exsultet was being chanted at The Easter Vigil tonight. Beautiful."

I'm happy that you saw the message.; 4/4/21, 5:34 AM
Original Mike said...: Gospace @ 1:24 - Thank you for the data. Interesting.

The % number with antibodies is lower than I would have expected. And the distribution does seem weird. The northeast covid hotspots are lower than the central and southern states.; 4/4/21, 6:03 AM
Humperdink said...: Ken B said: "I won’t attack you Big Mike, you can stop cowering."

Very few conservatives cower when confronted by someone who hails from Trudeauland. The thought is humorous on it's face.; 4/4/21, 6:26 AM
Humperdink said...: MLB has a customer service line should anyone wish to compliment (sarc) them on their decision skills. Doesn't open until noon. 866 800 1275.; 4/4/21, 6:37 AM
rhhardin said...: Bari Weiss on can the NYT survive otherwise than monetizing twitter outrage
youtube; 4/4/21, 7:14 AM
Iman said...: We’ll always have teh frost back hosers, knobs and yohans to kick around, eh.; 4/4/21, 7:49 AM
The Crack Emcee said...: Bari Weiss is an idiot one day, but then becomes a conservative hero the next. Same with Kanye West and others.

Any port in a storm.; 4/4/21, 7:59 AM
Rusty said...: "The silver lining of Covid for me is that pale-blue Canadians couldn't winter in FL for the last two seasons."
IE; People who can't drive and who tip badly.; 4/4/21, 8:01 AM
Achilles said...: The Crack Emcee said...

Bari Weiss is an idiot one day, but then becomes a conservative hero the next. Same with Kanye West and others.

Any port in a storm.

Maybe ideas are more important to consider than the person who espouses them?; 4/4/21, 8:13 AM
alan markus said...: Good video there, Crack.; 4/4/21, 8:43 AM
Michael K said...: Ken B said... [hush][hide comment]
Ah the Bolsonaro fans are yammering.
I won’t attack you Big Mike, you can stop cowering. But I will, as so often, mock you.

Assuming that was also directed at me, I deleted my angry response above. You are not worth responding to. I am a physician with epidemiology training. You are a nameless, faceless twerp of an internet commenter. I am skeptical of all the numbers in this politically distorted event.; 4/4/21, 8:52 AM
Narr said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 4/4/21, 9:53 AM
The Crack Emcee said...: alan markus said...
Good video there, Crack.

Thank you - here's another one.; 4/4/21, 12:39 PM
The Crack Emcee said...: Achilles said...

"Maybe ideas are more important to consider than the person who espouses them?"

Another reason why Bill Clinton is out of prison, presented as a reasonable stance. And ethical, I bet. So why ever consider sources? Track records? Sure, Steve Jobs is dead, but look at the MONEY, right?

I wonder if a difference between the left and right really exists anymore, beyond the superficial.; 4/4/21, 1:05 PM
The Crack Emcee said...: To me, Kanye West is, was, and will always be bi-polar, which can help make good music, but can't be counted on to articulate good policy. To jump up only when he dons a MAGA hat - after calling him a jackass for a decade - just reeks of political opportunism and reveals an empty core at the heart of current conservatism.

I saw Bari Weiss on Joe Rogan, when she was under no pressure to do or be anything but who she really is - and she was an arrogant moron. I wasn't surprised she was at the NYT - they deserved her. Now she's caught Hell, somehow, and she's embraced? I wonder what all I gotta do to get some of that?

Y'all give its away with no convictions what so ever, like gay dudes in San Francisco alleys.; 4/4/21, 1:15 PM