March 26, 2021

Reading the next 4 WaPo articles on Joe Biden's press conference.

Let me continue with the links I found in the top left corner of the front page of The Washington Post this morning (at around 6):

1. 

"Analysis: In news conference, Biden made some incorrect statements and claims lacking context." On the inside the headline is: "Fact-checking President Biden’s first news conference." 

Biden's claim that the U.S. has given far more vaccination shots is a distortion, because some other countries have given shots to a larger percentage of the population. Biden repeated a claim about GOP tax cuts that WaPo has already "often" given 2 Pinocchios. Biden claimed credit for school re-openings that were based on work done before he took office. Biden apparently completely made up the story of children at the border starving to death. Biden claimed that "the vast majority" of families caught trying cross the border are sent back, but only 41% are. Biden was wrong to claim that the surge at the border is the same as what happens every winter. Biden made the completely bizarre claim that the U.S. is 85th in the world in "infrastructure" (but he later corrected it to 13th). Biden misstated how much tax Fortune 500 companies pay.

3. 

"'The art of the possible': Biden lays out pragmatic vision for his presidency." 

"[Pragmatism explains] how he can describe some Republican policies as 'sick' and 'un-American' while not doing everything in his power to immediately stop them. He called the filibuster a racist relic of Jim Crow, while also insisting that he wasn’t ready to remove it entirely in the hopes there would be some compromise."

4. 

"Analysis: Takeaways from Biden’s first presidential news conference." Headline inside: "4 takeaways from Biden’s first news conference." 

"There wasn’t much truly groundbreaking news in the news conference.... Members of the media have been waiting a while to directly question this president.... There was also a distinct lack of deep questioning on the biggest current challenge facing our country and the world: the coronavirus threat. Other critiques of the questions were more overwrought.... These news conferences are difficult. Not every question is going to provide a ton of insight. And everyone thinks they can do better. But that doesn’t mean the media can’t actually do better." That's Aaron Blake.

5. 

"The many languages of Joe Biden: President switches between cryptic and casual conversation." 

This is a Robin Givhan column: "Biden, with an American flag pinned to his lapel, maintained a tone and volume that was both calm and reassuring as he spoke to a nation that remains skittish and uneasy. He only brought up his volume as a form of righteous indignation. He’d periodically move closer to the microphone and his eyes would get wide and his gaze fixed whenever he wanted to convey outrage."

ADDED: Robin Givhan's prose sounds like a description of the lead male character in a romance novel. It's quite humorous if you think about it that way.

148 comments:

Leland said...

Biden repeated a claim about GOP tax cuts that WaPo has already "often" given 2 Pinocchios.

Shows how little influence WaPo has over Biden, but then we you wimp out with repeatedly pointing out a lie yet only rate a half lie, then why should anyone care. You have neither a moral compass nor strength of conviction.

Matt Sablan said...

Makes you wish they hadn't decided they didn't need a Biden Lie Counter like the Trump one. Or was that a different news site that had that? Still. Kudos on the WaPo for trying to hold Biden accountable on things... even if it is pretty weak overall.

DarkHelmet said...

Facts and Biden have forever been strangers. He doesn't care. He'll say whatever. That's a criticism that was leveled at Trump, and Trump would also make stuff up when it suited him, but generally it consisted of exaggerations. Biden knows nothing, and doesn't care to learn. Even more so than Trump he is reactive.

As I have written several times before, Biden is a mean dog who lives under the porch and launches surprise attacks at unsuspecting pedestrians, then scuttles back under the porch. The presser was his first venture out from his lair since the inauguration. He's still the same old nasty, stupid dog, but he can still bite the unaware.

Levi Starks said...

You’re gonna have to trust me on this one,
The Democrats hate, and want Biden gone worse than Republicans.
However, as usual optics are everything, as mulch as they want him gone they also want to accord him hero status.
My recommendation for Republicans is that they just sit on their hands. Don’t do the Democrats dirty work.

Joe Smith said...

Nothing about Trump letting kids starve at the border?

What a jerk.

Go back to bed.

mikee said...

Was the word "dementia" used in any of the articles? If not, why not?

Matt Sablan said...

There is, in the full article, a rebuttal to the starving:

"Biden claimed, without apparent evidence, that children “starved to death” in Mexico under President Donald Trump’s 2019 policy allowing border officers to return non-Mexican asylum seekers to locations in Mexico as their claims are adjudicated in immigration courts. Asked for evidence of such deaths, a White House official referred to reports of “widely reported treacherous conditions at camps along the border on the Mexican side that formed as a result of the Trump Administration’s use of the Migrant Protection Protocol, more commonly known as ‘Remain in Mexico.’

A nurse, for instance, told Reuters that in the camps, “she saw breastfeeding mothers so dehydrated that they could not nurse their babies and parents chewing up donated pizza into mush to feed their infants. Some children were showing early signs of malnutrition.” One woman in the camp told the Guardian: “We’ve gone hungry. We’ve been cold. We’ve had to bathe in the river. This is a desperate place.”

The American Immigration Council also reported on the case of a woman who feared her daughter would die of starvation.

These reports are certainly compelling, but none documented the deaths of children by starvation. Nevertheless, a 2020 report by Physicians for Human Rights described cases of asylum seekers being dismembered or tortured as they waited in Mexico."

Again, it's a very weak attack on Biden. I'd never imagine the WaPo bending this far over backwards to say that Trump was "fake but accurate" essentially.

TreeJoe said...

Immigration problem caused by Biden and worse for children then ever before...

Covid tackling that is literally exactly on trend with trump, nothing different...

How's China and Russia doing?

(Trump was just as bad) Out of control spending and beginning signs of worrying inflation...

Yeah, a press conference from our president once every 2 months with no real dialogue or discussion is no big deal.

Sebastian said...

"Biden made some incorrect statements"

Did he make any correct statements?

Joe Smith said...

Jim Eagle!!!

Shouting Thomas said...

The U.S. is fucked.

It is no more.

We are a vassal state of the CCP.

dbp said...

We are not being led by a man who is feeble of mind and feeble of body. Somebody, not Biden and not elected, is running the United States.

Bob Smith said...

Biden lies, his VP lies, the WAPO lies, what’s the big deal.

Charlie said...

Jim Eagle could not be reached for comment.

Nonapod said...

Eagle's are more evil than crows in Biden world. I guess he'd prefer a crow to a bald eagle as an American symbol.

Joe Smith said...

"The U.S. is fucked."

Or maybe it's just pining for the fjords...

Thuglawlibrarian said...

Pssst, the emperor has no clothes.


Joe Smith said...

"We are not being led by a man who is feeble of mind and feeble of body."

And, according to his own VP, a racist and a rapist.

Tommy Duncan said...

My take away was that Biden is self-aware of his senility. He had a couple of instances where his train of thought derailed and he uttered something to the effect of "Oh well, let's move on." He recognized he couldn't deliver a coherent message and it didn't bother him. Neither does it seem to bother his handlers, supporters or the mainstream media.

PB said...

It's clear the reporters that were allowed to ask questions had submitted them in advanv0ce.

Howard said...

Althouse trolling for BDS hits paydirt. Does the name Pavlov make you drool?

PB said...

Eagles are now bad. Very, very bad. Look for calls to remove the eagle as a symbol as it is very clearly racist. Take them off protected lists. Hunt them to extinction.

Shouting Thomas said...

So, you’re a traitor, too, Howard?

Wince said...

Believe it or not, Jim Eagle is a legend we still talked about before Biden's press conference.

Back in the mid-1970s, a guy named Jim Eagle was a hippy drifter who roamed east coast beaches from Maine to Florida.

One day, a bunch of kids pushed the foul smelling Jim Eagle into an outdoor shower and doused him with the beach-front home owners cologne.

Thinking about it, the press is kinda doing the same thing for Biden.

Dave Begley said...

Here's the thing. The Press actually is mentioned in the Constitution. The Press has a constitutional duty in our government. And they are failing at their job.

The Press helped put Biden in there because they personally hated Trump.

My biggest fear is that this is going to end very badly for the US and the Free World. The Chinese are killers. They will take max advantage of this along with the Norks and Iran.

I'd much rather have Harris in there as POTUS.

Who is really running the country? It ain't Joe.

Meade said...

"He called the filibuster a racist relic of Jim Crow, while also insisting that he wasn’t ready to remove it entirely in the hopes there would be some compromise."

Jump, Joe Crow.

Shouting Thomas said...

Who is really running the country? It ain't Joe.

The Intel agencies and the CCP.

Harris is part of that conspiracy.

Dave Begley said...

Mike Pompeo was in Iowa yesterday. Now there's a smart and tough guy. We need someone like him as POTUS. Not a weak, bribed and senile old man.

Pompeo was first in his class at West Point and a Harvard Law grad. And a great career after that too. Biden is a complete embarrassment.

Shouting Thomas said...

@Begley

There will never be a fair and free presidential election again.

Voting is now complete bullshit.

Meade said...

Or should I say Jump, Joe Eagle.

gilbar said...

He’d periodically move closer to the microphone and his eyes would get wide

Um, Hello? his eyes were bug-eyed The Whole Time
Do a Google search on Joe Biden, look at the images

There are
The normal, sleepy Jo; squint eye pix
and Then there are the pix of dilated pupil Jo, with the black holes for eyes

And, guess what? All the dilated pix are from yesterdays presser

Howard said...

Male menopause has made you quite hysterical, Thomas. Work out more physically rather than working yourself into a lather.

Quaestor said...

The many languages of Joe Biden: President switches between cryptic and casual conversation

Joe is multilingual, a polyglot if you please. The Resident is fluent in

1) Gibberish (though he has a detectable Dogpile accent, which is fine -- Dogpile being the ancient capital of Gibberland.)
2) Balderdash
3) Palaver (the Resident is a published poet in Palaver, see Democratic Party Platform)

He has a working knowledge of

1) Babble
2) Drivel
3) Claptrap
4) MumboJumbo

And informal conversational skills in

1) Twaddle
2) Prattle
3) Gobbledygook
4) Scat

Aides report he can order lunch in Double-Talk and curse floridly in Yammer.

Shouting Thomas said...

Fuck you, Howard.

You’re a stupid fucking moron.

Shouting Thomas said...

How does it feel to be an ass kissing traitor, Howard?

Bob Boyd said...

@Quaester

You forgot Malarkey

Arturo Ui said...

What a criminal POS. So glad this poison has left the building.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/03/26/trump-rioter-insurrection-zero-threat-478147

Lars Porsena said...

The mistake everyone making is talking about Biden as if he were a sentient being. It’s like calling an institutionalized inmate claiming to be Napoleon, a liar and not addled. He’s just a piñata stuffed with the ideas of his handlers.

I'm Not Sure said...

"Somebody, not Biden and not elected, is running the United States."

There are two problems here. One is obvious. The other, not as much.

1. "Not elected". Needs no further explanation.

2. "Running the United States". The president is in charge of the executive department of the government. He is not responsible for running the country.

Aggie said...

How easy it is, to control the Presidency, when you control the media and the Party machinery. Joe's days are numbered. The groundwork is being done to ease the passage, and lighten the burden on the Party.

The media is the greatest labor-saving device ever harnessed by the Democratic Party.

Shouting Thomas said...

Arturo UI =

Another traitor and CCP asset.

Bob Boyd said...

Jump?

I don't get it.

Peter Spieker said...

I don’t have the time or desire to wade through much of the news comment on this presser, but I am curious about the response on one topic. On the filibuster, I understood the President to say, first, that the filibuster was being abused, second that it was bad because it was a relic of the Jim Crow era, and third that he was open to changing the rule back to the “need to keep talking” version of the filibuster from the “just need to vote occasionally” version we have now.

The change in the filibuster rule occurred, I think, in the early seventies. In other words, after the legal structures maintaining Jim Crow had been removed. So the President objects to the rule because it is associated with Jim Crow, while looking favorably on changing it from the rule used in the civil rights era to the rule used in segregation times. That seems like a pretty big contradiction. Has any one noticed?

Bilwick said...

Pragmatism = how much statism can we get away with for now?

Temujin said...

The numbers I read were that only 13% of the migrating families are currently being sent back.

Robin (the gift that keeps) Givhan stated, "Biden, with an American flag pinned to his lapel, maintained a tone and volume that was both calm and reassuring as he spoke to a nation that remains skittish and uneasy." As he told the world that the Republican moves to make sure our elections have some control and are not subject to massive fraud are nothing but pure racism and made 'Jim Crow look like Jim Eagle'.

It left me wondering who wrote the line about Jim Eagle and how it ever got onto his actual reading cards. Anyway- Biden perpetuating the complete lie and turning truth on it's head about voting is nothing new. Not for Joe and certainly not for Democrats.

Josephbleau said...

"He only brought up his volume as a form of righteous indignation. He’d periodically move closer to the microphone and his eyes would get wide and his gaze fixed whenever he wanted to convey outrage."

The Wapo is describing Beiden like he was an AI experiment. They discuss the details of how the robot is programmed.

Howard said...

I thought you people's collective mental health tanked when Trump was in office. Now that Daddy has left the scene, you have become completely unmoored from reality.

The sad part is it looks like you're not even close to hitting rock bottom.

The delayed return of Trump to public discourse is part of his keen show biz know-how by starving you of his light and attention so that when he does finally launch, the ratings will overflow his coffers while you will feel whole once again.

Shouting Thomas said...

You’re an utter piece of shit, Howard.

Meade said...

"He’s just a piñata stuffed with the ideas of his handlers."

Yes but the ideas of his handlers is a very special stuffing — a special stuffing for when Joe needs a helping hand.

Amadeus 48 said...

Joe is an embarrassment. He always has been one, and now it is worse.

Ann Althouse said...

I don't like thinking about Joe's hand. Where's it been?

Ann Althouse said...

Also, that Hamburger Helper commercial Meade linked too has such an obvious double entendre (that when the wife isn't home the husband has to masturbate).

Ann Althouse said...

I hope you enjoyed how I redirected this thread right into the gutter.

Howard said...

How does it feel to be a meat puppet to a con man, Thomas? Feeling requires awareness, so I can only imagine that the last shred of consciousness left in you is triggering the free-falling pit in your stomach.

Ann Althouse said...

But I will prudently chide the commenter who likened Joe to a piñata. I don't like thinking of Joe Biden suspended from the ceiling and beaten with a stick.

Sebastian said...

"The many languages of Joe Biden: President switches between cryptic and casual conversation."

Cryptic: as in, made no sense?

Many languages, one distant stare.

Howard said...

What happened to Rosie's fifth sister on the helping hand?

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

as seen on twitter:

Biden: “[Proposed GOP election integrity measures] make Jim Crow like Jim Eagle.”

Pretty rich, from the guy who worried about his kids living in a “racial jungle.”


Amazing how all of Joe's lifetime of racial insensitivity and outright racism get flushed down the hack press memory hole.

h said...

PBS reporter: "Mr. President. Many people are criticizing the immigration situation on the Mexican border. Isn't it true that the problem is attributable to your basic kindness and good-heartedness? And, on a related topic, isn't it true that your critics are just not smart enough to keep up with your policy-making brilliance?

Bob Boyd said...

such an obvious double entendre (that when the wife isn't home the husband has to masturbate).

The creepy part is his little girl introduces dad to the helping hand.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

Removing ID laws and requirements helps democrats. How odd?

Meade said...

Bob Boyd said...
Jump?

I don't get it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jump_Jim_Crow

Meade said...

Look. Here's the deal. C'mon, man. If you don't know Jump Jim Crow, you ain't Corn Pop, man.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

The new Woke Democratic way is segregation by race.

Isn't that very Jim Crow?

gadfly said...

"By the end of [the press conference], after an hour and two minutes that felt much longer, Biden had answered some two dozen questions. The majority of them were repetitive variants on one of two subjects: immigration and the Senate filibuster.

In case you missed it, he is really, totally, absolutely committed to fixing the terrible situation at the border, and also not yet ready—because he does not have the votes—to commit to blowing up the filibuster."

The End

readering said...

Biden has now matched Trump for number of solo press conferences in first 200 days of presidency. Trump held one in mid February.

Rusty said...

I like how the Biden voters show up and pretend he's competent That there is comedy gold. And they they try and assert thei moral authority. When in fact they have the morals of a flatworm.
You voted for Biden you dimwits. Nobody except another Biden voter is going to take you seriously. And half of those are make believe.

Joe Smith said...

"I don't like thinking about Joe's hand. Where's it been?"

Ask Tara Reade.

"Also, that Hamburger Helper commercial Meade linked too has such an obvious double entendre (that when the wife isn't home the husband has to masturbate)."

He might not 'have to,' maybe he 'wants to.' : )

"I hope you enjoyed how I redirected this thread right into the gutter."

I like feisty (get off my lawn) Ann and naughty Ann : )

Bob Boyd said...

The Hamburger Helper mascot wants to beat your meat, Jump Jim Crow...

I'm learning all kinds of stuff here today

Meade said...

"I like feisty (get off my lawn) Ann and naughty Ann : )"

She's 2, 2, 2 Anns in one!

Joe Smith said...

"The new Woke Democratic way is segregation by race."

In Oakland, CA, the city is giving $500 monthly checks to select poor families, but ONLY if you're not white.

Nice...

https://twitter.com/DailyMail/status/1375048128093679616

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

You need an ID to buy alcohol, you need an ID to travel, you need an ID to book a hotel room, you need an ID for many things that protect us all from identity theft.
You need an ID to get into the DNC convention.

Somehow its RACIST to require an ID to vote.

Bob Boyd said...

Gutter threads are some of the best threads.

Churchy LaFemme: said...

What happened to Rosie's fifth sister on the helping hand?

That's a standard animation trope. In general cartoon characters' hands look better animated with four fingers.

I believe there was a Bugs short where he had his standard four-fingered hand except for closeups of him playing the piano when he had five fingers.

Joe Smith said...

"Look. Here's the deal. C'mon, man. If you don't know Jump Jim Crow, you ain't Corn Pop, man."

Dana Carvey saves the day...

Michael K said...

Blogger Howard said...
I thought you people's collective mental health tanked when Trump was in office.


Biden voter worried about mental health.

Arturo Ui said...

Blogger Shouting Thomas said...
Arturo UI =

Another traitor and CCP asset

*****************

Please don't call me any of your wife's pet names.

I'm Not Sure said...

"Biden voter worried about mental health."

Considering that a fair number of them are dead, I'd think they'd have bigger worries.

DavidUW said...

What vote does Biden get on the filibuster?

Although I suppose the average voter is so stupid they probably think he has a say on Senate rules.

Arturo Ui said...


Blogger BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe said...

Somehow its RACIST to require an ID to vote.

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It is racist if you conduct expensive, granular studies in advance showing that the demographics most likely to lack an up to date ID just happen to be lower income minority voters of the opposing party who often lack easy transportation, childcare, $ for DMV fees, etc, and then you suddenly push this massive "voter ID" campaign that you never cared about before the study, and then you start closing DMVs in minority neighborhoods in order to make it even harder. That is racist.

Owen said...

“...It's quite humorous if you think about it that way.”

Gallows humor. Thanks, Prof A.

Tim said...

Biden is a vegetable. The drugs propping him up will kill him.

robother said...

Double entendre in Hamburger Helper ads I can handle. After reading Philip Roth, I could never eat liver in a Jewish household that included a teenaged boy.

Francisco D said...

Ann Althouse said...
But I will prudently chide the commenter who likened Joe to a piñata. I don't like thinking of Joe Biden suspended from the ceiling and beaten with a stick.

Neither do I, but I suspect that our lefty friends would love to see Donald Trump as a piñata. That is how the MSM treated him at press conferences.

Joe Smith said...

Voter ID has been an issue for years...it is not 'sudden.'

Many states provide IDs for free.

Interesting that you think minorities should be treated like children.

Liberals seem to treat black people like pets, and many black people seem to like it.

Arturo Ui said...

Joe Smith said...
Voter ID has been an issue for years...it is not 'sudden.'

Many states provide IDs for free.

Interesting that you think minorities should be treated like children.

Liberals seem to treat black people like pets, and many black people seem to like it.

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It was your party that conducted the racist study bro, not me.

Which states provide state-issued ID for free?

DavidUW said...
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Joe Smith said...

"It was your party that conducted the racist study bro, not me."

And it was your party who legalized slavery and instituted Jim Eagle laws.

"Which states provide state-issued ID for free?"

'Racist' Alabama for one. You know, the state with lots of black people?

https://www.sos.alabama.gov/alabama-votes/photo-voter-id/obtain-free-photo-voter-id

You're really not very good at this, are you?

Yancey Ward said...

Here is how the media lies, and this one is repeated by a resident idiot:

"Biden has now matched Trump for number of solo press conferences in first 200 days of presidency. Trump held one in mid February."

Trump held one formal press conference in the White House in the first 200 days. However, Trump took impromptu questions from the media posse that followed him from place to place all the time. How do I know this? Because I actually watched about 1 a week from 2017 until he left the White House. They often took place on the White House lawn just before he boarded the helicopter that took him to Andrews, but he also did these whereever it was he traveled to. Trump also did one on one interviews with media people who literally hated him, and he did so pretty fucking often, something many of us on the right criticized him for doing (but I didn't, I thought it was a good strategy- my only critique is that he didn't make his own recordings of the sessions).

If President Shitforbrains really wants to match Trump for press access, he needs to start taking impromptu questions on a regular, weekly basis instead of saying he will take questions and then being quickly moved along by his wife and staff before he actually can; and perhaps do an interview with someone like Tucker Carlson instead of with only media people who will willingly suck his withered cock on demand, like George Stephanopoulos, or all the other journalists who were allowed to ask pre-approved questions yesterday.

Arturo Ui said...

Joe Smith said...
"It was your party that conducted the racist study bro, not me."

And it was your party who legalized slavery and instituted Jim Eagle laws.

"Which states provide state-issued ID for free?"

'Racist' Alabama for one. You know, the state with lots of black people?

https://www.sos.alabama.gov/alabama-votes/photo-voter-id/obtain-free-photo-voter-id

You're really not very good at this, are you?

********************************

Which others? You said "many states". You've named one, and it's not even a swing state, which is where all the action is on this issue.

Yancey Ward said...

A piñata analogy disturbs someone? LOL! If President Shitforbrains had fallen down the steps of Air Force One the other day and literally broke his neck and died, I would have laughed my ass off for at least a good five minutes.

I can't stress enough the danger of having a demented and mentally incompetent President in the White House. As much as I hate her and her politics, it is far safer to have Harris in the office than Shitforbrains there now. Far safer.

Arturo Ui said...

Yancey Ward said...

I can't stress enough the danger of having a demented and mentally incompetent President in the White House.

****************************

Sorry to hear about that coma you were in the last 4 years. Glad you appear to have come out of it.

MadisonMan said...

I thought Biden's left eye looked a lot different from the right. So much so that I am left wondering if he's having vision problems.

Nonapod said...

Here's some things that require an ID in our society

Purchasing Alcohol
Purchasing Cigarettes
Opening a bank account
Applying for food stamps
Applying for welfare
Applying for Medicaid
Applying for Social Security
Applying for Unemployment
Driving/Buying/Renting a car
Getting on an Airplane
Getting Married
Buying a firearm
Adopting a pet
Renting a hotel room
Applying for a hunting license
Applying for a fishing license
Buying a cell phone
Picking up a prescription
Donating blood

Members of very poor, minority communities are typically on some sort of assistance like food stamps, medicaid, unemployment, or social security and medicare if they're elderly, all of which required the presenting of some sort of ID at some point. I'm not suggesting that it's impossible that their couldn't be some very specific edge case where some poor soul no longer has a valid ID and lacks the wherewithal and means to realistically acquire one. But I think you have to put a lot of these things into perspective.

Everyone's vote is supposed to be equal. As it is right now, voter fraud is a very real thing. It absolutely occurs on some level in our presidential elections (how much occurs is debatable, but the fact that it occurs is not). And one way to put into perspective the harm that voter fraud does is to think of it like canceling a legitimate vote. So if you cast your vote, and a fraudulant vote is cast that opposes your vote, it's effectively the same as if you never voted. You're voting right has been abrigated, just like that hypothetical poor soul who couldn't cast their vote because they were unable to acquire a voter ID.

The point is, voting fraud is at least as bad as people not being able to vote at all do to circumstances beyond their control. But voting fraud may be even worse since it can potentially disenchfranchise far, far more people if the scope is greater. Given that there's so many activities that require an ID in our culture, what is the likelyhood of an honest voter not already having an ID and not being able to obtain one? And what is the total amount of voter fraud that actually occurs? What is the greater evil?

Arturo Ui said...

Nonapod said...
Here's some things that require an ID in our society

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You're narrowly defining the issue to "having a voter ID", when in reality the restrictions being pushed into place are about strict voter ID requirements, like up-to-date address on an otherwise non-expired, legit ID. All of the DMVs in my region were totally overwhelmed during 2020 due to the pandemic. If you needed a license address update, they told you not to even bother coming in. They would mail you a sticker that you could put on your ID. Good luck convincing a poll worker that is a legit ID when they've been told the ID has to have a strict matching address on it. These new laws are all about punishing lower income minorities with the machinery of bureaucracy.

And why no drinking water? What the hell is that about?

Michael K said...

Nice to have a troll explain all these complex issues, like voter ID.

Larry L said...

The press have what they want, their guys in the WH. They will don their Presidential knee pads for the duration.

Arturo Ui said...

Blogger Michael K said...
Nice to have a troll explain all these complex issues, like voter ID.

*************

Yeah, what a sterling analysis on your behalf, bravo.

Lurker21 said...

[Pragmatism explains] how he can describe some Republican policies as 'sick' and 'un-American' while not doing everything in his power to immediately stop them.

I would have thought a "pragmatist" would be trying to fix the existing policies rather than labelling them "sick" or "unamerican."

JFK was supposed to have been a pragmatist, and to give the guy credit, his criticism of Republican policies was that they didn't work, not that they were depraved or unpatriotic. Like the guy or not, the country was quite united in his day, because he didn't go for the cheap shot very often.

Biden reaches first for some moralizing, condemnatory label, rather than discuss what would resolve problems. His border policy is the triumph of ideology over pragmatism. And I'd think that a pragmatist would be able to discuss the filibuster in a calmer, more rational way.

But that's were we are as a country, or at least where political discussion is. The idea that one could have a president who rises above that level is unrealistic.

Arturo Ui said...

Why did Georgia Republicans ban handing out drinking water to voters waiting in hours-long lines? Why have they turned this into an endurance test?

Matt Sablan said...

You can set up over ~150 feet away from the polling place to hand things out. The "I can't disguise attempting to politic while giving out water" is a really weird hill to die on -- especially as you've immediately seen people claiming they are going to start giving out water at elections to protest it.

Georgia's point was made for them: There was a real risk people doing this were circumventing other rules in place to keep you from lobbying voters at the polls. The first big argument against it seems to be... "We're going to circumvent rules to lobby voters at the polls."

Rusty said...

Someone is vying for Ingas spot.

Static Ping said...

Ann: I hope you enjoyed how I redirected this thread right into the gutter.

The thread was in the gutter from the outset. You just redirected it to a different gutter. Elder abuse combined with tyranny dreams is a deeper gutter than smut IMHO.

Matt Sablan said...

Honestly: There are several parts of the Georgia bill I would have liked separated or made more clear. For example, non-partisan food delivery, like Pizza to the Polls, is probably fine. But, we already have people set up right at the line where political activity must end offering sample ballots and harassing voters. You're not allowed to loiter in the polling place, so how, exactly, logistically are the people giving water to people in the line going to work? They're just going to set up a table with everyone else in the area they'll be allowed to loiter anyway. It seems a weird thing to include in the bill, except for the fact that they apparently did experience using it as an excuse to try and politic in line.

Which sucks. Because once again, jerks ruined something nice for everyone.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

"[Pragmatism explains] how he can describe some Republican policies as 'sick' and 'un-American' while not doing everything in his power to immediately stop them. "

How morally wretched do you have to be to write a sentence like that?

Let's try this instead:

Being a lying sack of sh!t hypocrite explains ...

Greg The Class Traitor said...

Matt Sablan said...
For example, non-partisan food delivery, like Pizza to the Polls,

You mean, like the way the SPLC and the League of Women Voters are "non-partisan"?

There is nothing in the world that is non-partisan, when the Left are around

Jack Klompus said...

What a criminal POS. So glad this poison has left the building.

Hope you feel safe to purchase a new pair of dry panties now.

Joe Smith said...

"If President Shitforbrains really wants to match Trump for press access, he needs to start taking impromptu questions on a regular, weekly basis..."

This morning, Scott Adams cut Joe some slack and even praised him for having pre-prepared notes in a binder, saying if Kayleigh McEnany did it then it's OK. After all, the idea is to get good, accurate answers.

Usually he has good insights, but on this one he missed the entire point completely.

It wasn't so bad that Joe had prepared answers, but it's really bad that those answers were to questions that were known in advance.

It is proof of a compliant, obsequious press. The first amendment is on life support.

Joe Smith said...

"Which others? You said "many states". You've named one, and it's not even a swing state, which is where all the action is on this issue."

Dear cocksucker. It's called the internet. Learn to use it.

My time is better spent making lots of money so I can remain a rich, evil, white oppressor.

narciso said...


Come on man!

https://mobile.twitter.com/Doc_0/status/1375429364142211072

F said...

After watching the Biden press conference, I wondered how many American ambassadors to Central American countries were called in by the Foreign Minister and asked to explain who Biden was talking about when he said Central American government were corrupt.

n.n said...

Scott Adams cut Joe some slack and even praised him for having pre-prepared notes in a binder, saying if Kayleigh McEnany did it then it's OK

First, McEnany wasn't President. Second, she answered questions where order did not matter, and without borders. She was well prepared because she was well aware, competent, and on point.

narciso said...


Like julia quinn, the bridgerton scribe


https://mobile.twitter.com/FDRLST/status/1375481420198592514

n.n said...

how many American ambassadors to Central American countries were called in by the Foreign Minister and asked to explain who Biden was talking about when he said Central American government were corrupt.

Will Joe follow in his mentor, Obama's, footsteps, in the miscarriage of wars without borders, transnational terrorism, and coups without cause to force social progress and secure natural resources. Also, will there be Planned Politicians. The minister and ambassador wondered secretly.

narciso said...

Back story, there was fast and furious and castaway that shipped guns to sinaloa zeta and the honduran affiliates, the zetas hired fmr kaibiles the most ruthless guatemalan special forces, in addition to mexican rangers as their core group

FullMoon said...

LOL! Drinking water. Actual problem is trading gift cards from fast food joints for votes. That is what the bill contains, as in a link posted here yesterday by someone else.

Condensed to drinking water as talking point.

Joe Smith said...

Biden: "Look man, there are 11 things here to remember..."

Reels off 10 and then reaches for his zipper...

I'm Not Sure said...

"I'm not suggesting that it's impossible that their couldn't be some very specific edge case where some poor soul no longer has a valid ID and lacks the wherewithal and means to realistically acquire one."

Getting a valid ID sounds like something Dems could help people in such a situation take care of before the election. You know- like they're already doing by helping them fill out their ballots.

I'm Not Sure said...

"This morning, Scott Adams cut Joe some slack and even praised him for having pre-prepared notes in a binder, saying if Kayleigh McEnany did it then it's OK. After all, the idea is to get good, accurate answers."

There's a difference between the two. In McEnany's case, she didn't know what the questions would be ahead of time.

Clyde said...

2? Was this something deliberate, perhaps playing on Biden's innumeracy?

Clyde said...

Or was there a #2 article that wasn't about Biden*'s "press conference"? It just seemed weird going 1, 3, 4, 5 when Biden* counted to three by going 1, 2...

Michael K said...

Yeah, what a sterling analysis on your behalf, bravo.

Well, troll, you explained everything. I didn't have to analyze anything.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

Nonapod said...
Everyone's vote is supposed to be equal. As it is right now, voter fraud is a very real thing. It absolutely occurs on some level in our presidential elections (how much occurs is debatable, but the fact that it occurs is not). And one way to put into perspective the harm that voter fraud does is to think of it like canceling a legitimate vote. So if you cast your vote, and a fraudulant vote is cast that opposes your vote, it's effectively the same as if you never voted. You're voting right has been abrigated, just like that hypothetical poor soul who couldn't cast their vote because they were unable to acquire a voter ID.

Actually, it's worse.

If I can't vote because I screwed up and didn't register in time, or lost all my photo ID right before the election, I know I lost out, and I have something to do to make sure it doesn't happen again.

If you commit vote fraud, and vote against my candidates, then I've lost my vote, but there's nothing I can do about it.

That's far worse.

And that's what the Democrats want

cubanbob said...

Howard said...
I thought you people's collective mental health tanked when Trump was in office. Now that Daddy has left the scene, you have become completely unmoored from reality."

Howard don't quit your day job, you aint making it as a comedian.

Arturo Ui said...

Joe Smith said...
"Which others? You said "many states". You've named one, and it's not even a swing state, which is where all the action is on this issue."

Dear cocksucker. It's called the internet. Learn to use it.

My time is better spent making lots of money so I can remain a rich, evil, white oppressor.

*********************

You're a lying disgrace who makes empty claims and can't back them up. You ain't got nothin, loser. Hope you enjoyed losing in 2020, and look forward to losing again in 2024.

Arturo Ui said...

Michael K said...
Yeah, what a sterling analysis on your behalf, bravo.

Well, troll, you explained everything. I didn't have to analyze anything.

**********************8

Correct.

Arturo Ui said...

FullMoon said...
LOL! Drinking water. Actual problem is trading gift cards from fast food joints for votes. That is what the bill contains, as in a link posted here yesterday by someone else.

Condensed to drinking water as talking point.

**************************

Why did they specifically prohibit handing out drinking water? These lines run hours long, and are full of elderly people. Why did the Georgia GOP do that?

Inga said...

“Hope you enjoyed losing in 2020, and look forward to losing again in 2024.”

Don’t forget 2022.

“I thought you people's collective mental health tanked when Trump was in office. Now that Daddy has left the scene, you have become completely unmoored from reality."

As I suspected.

Lurker21 said...

There's a history of candidates treating voters to food and expecting some gratitude in return. Scott Duncombe, one of the founders of Pizza to the Polls was an Obama campaign organizer and a co-director of a group called Power the Polls, which recruited poll watchers for last year's campaign.

Early this year, Duncombe founded Democracy Delivered, which helps voters register to vote-by-mail and has partnered with TurboVote, a group funded by several prominent left-wing private foundations and defines itself as “an application that makes voting easy.”

Duncombe previously worked at the Soros-backed Alliance for Youth Action, Common Cause, and other progressive voting groups, many that are currently partnered with Power the Polls.


I don't blame Republicans for being suspicious of such activity, but the water thing is bad optics.

Calypso Facto said...

Arturo Ui said ... "You said "many states". You've named one.."

A quick look at the official Federal voting site usa.gov shows that "2/3 of states require some form of voter ID". So you've got 17(?) states right off the bat with no voter ID and therefor no cost of voter ID.

It goes on to say that "About half of the states with voter ID laws accept only photo IDs. These include: driver’s licenses, state-issued ID cards, military ID cards, passports"
Any one of which, if you already have for other purposes LIKE THE VAST MAJORITY OF CITIZENS, are then obviously free for voting purposes.

The site continues, "Many of these states now offer a free voter photo ID card if you don’t have another form of valid photo ID." "Many", that's definitely more than one.

And "Other states accept some types of non-photo ID. These may include: birth certificates,
Social Security cards, bank statements, utility bills" Again, all no-cost options.

So now, if you'd like to refute the Biden-Harris Administration's voting webpage and claim that voter ID is not free for most people in most states, the onus is on you to show your work.

Leland said...

I got an email the other day from an airline noting the new TSA policy of having a Real ID to travel. What do Democrats have against poor and minorities travelling by commercial airline or boat? Funny how we can give hundreds of dollars to poor people plus a free vaccination, but it is beyond the pale to suggest that perhaps that money shouldn't just go to PlayStation 5s, but maybe also purchasing a valid Real ID for voting, freely travelling the US, and even getting additional benefits from the government.

Dr Weevil said...
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Dr Weevil said...

Anyone who truly wants to know how many states have free Voter ID cards can find out very easily via Google or its competitors. I just did a DuckDuckGo search for 'Virginia voter photo ID card' (without quotation marks) and didn't even have to follow any of the links. The second link was a VA state government site on which the visible text included the words "Virginia Voter Photo Identification cards are available, free-of-charge, from any General Registrar's office in Virginia." It took all of a minute to find that out.

'Arturo Ui' could easily find out how many states have free voter ID in less than an hour, if he really wanted to know. Of course, he doesn't, he just wants to insult anyone who doesn't share his moronic politics, or more likely, earn his paycheck repeating his moronic talking points and insulting anyone who disagrees with them.

I'm Not Sure said...

"'Arturo Ui' could easily find out how many states have free voter ID in less than an hour, if he really wanted to know. Of course, he doesn't..."

And aside from this, he posts things as truth, that have been demonstrated to him to be untrue. Reading his comments is a waste of time.

h said...

Read this. I don't recall singing this (Jump Jim Joe) in elementary school in the 1960s. I doubt if it was excluded for political correctness, because the public schools at that time in that county had separate (but, of course "equal") schools for white students and black students. We did do the hokey pokey.

Michael K said...

Reading his comments is a waste of time.

Unless you are a lefty into mental masturbation.

Masscon said...

"He only brought up his volume as a form of righteous indignation. He’d periodically move closer to the microphone and his eyes would get wide and his gaze fixed whenever he wanted to convey outrage."

fauxtrage

I'm Not Sure said...

"Unless you are a lefty into mental masturbation."

That would explain the 81 million votes.

Lurker21 said...

They call Biden "pragmatic" because they can't call him "moderate." If you say he's moderate, you are separating him from his more progressive supporters. And can you call him a moderate if he has the same goals as the progressives, but wants to prioritize some goals for immediate action and move more slowly towards other goals? If moderates are just progressives who aren't in a hurry, that raises other questions, but since Biden most likely isn't making his own decisions, I wouldn't call him a moderate, just someone with different tactics from those to his left. I'd make the reservation that he very well may still be moderate when it comes to economic and regulatory policies that threaten his donors, though.

I wouldn't call him a pragmatist either. I don't see him as somebody trying to solve the country's problems, or to maybe put it better, I think his team's idea of what America's problems are is so highly ideologized that it's hard to call them pragmatic or practical. Of course, four years of college and countless hours of indoctrination nowadays will give you a very different view of what the country's problems are than most of us who came of age early have.

I'm Not Sure said...

"I don't see him as somebody trying to solve the country's problems..."

"The country's problems"? There are 330+ million people in this country. Is there any problem at all that all of those millions of people would agree on needs solving?

Joe Smith said...

Thanks Calypso Facto...

I was tired of feeding the troll.

He's a classic left-sider...his life would be more fulfilling if he learned how to use the internet machine.

Michelle Dulak Thomson said...

Dave Begley,

Here's the thing. The Press actually is mentioned in the Constitution. The Press has a constitutional duty in our government.

Actually, no. "The press" in the Framers' time was "anyone with a printing press." It was not a special bunch of people called "Press," with special credentials and special access; it was literally anyone who could get the word out about anything. That's why it comes right after "speech" in the 1st A. If talking about it wouldn't do the trick, there was always making up a flyer.

Michelle Dulak Thomson said...

Arturo Ui,

Why did Georgia Republicans ban handing out drinking water to voters waiting in hours-long lines? Why have they turned this into an endurance test?

As others have said upthread, "water" isn't the point, though of course it's the useful item for your side. What I want to know is, where are the free-water-people when I'm standing in line for a COVID shot? And, for that matter, why does it take a photo ID to get one, since we all know that scads of people have no photo IDs?

Michelle Dulak Thomson said...

Seriously, if you're talking about something that might save your life, how can you possibly want or need photo ID? Except that the same people who are outraged about photo ID for voting (even in GA, which has bent over backwards to make voter ID not only free, but accessible to the point where they'll come to your door to photograph you) are just as peeved if someone gets in line where they don't deserve to be. Show your ID!

I'm Not Sure said...

"And, for that matter, why does it take a photo ID to get one"

Because it doesn't interfere with advancing Dem voter fraud like it would for voting. Duh.

Matt Sablan said...

Stop doing research for people who argue in bad faith; you'll note I do post links and things to things I think bolster my point. But, people who argue in bad faith? It won't matter to them what you cite. They won't change their mind; they'll move the goalposts, or reject your source with something like: "LOL, like [that site] is a real news site.") This is the best case scenario for you. At worst? They are deliberately trying to waste your time.

Sam L. said...

I trust NOTHING that the WaPoo WaPoops.

Iman said...

I don't like thinking of Joe Biden suspended from the ceiling and beaten with a stick.

Sounds like the makings of a party to me. It’s too late to beat him senseless, though.