"... fueled by white supremacy and/or misogyny. Not to be outdone, the WaPo ran sixteen separate stories on the incident as an anti-Asian white supremacist hate crime. Sixteen! One story for the facts; sixteen stories on how critical race theory would interpret the event regardless of the facts. For good measure, one of their columnists denounced reporting of law enforcement’s version of events in the newspaper, because it distracted attention from the 'real' motives. Today, the NYT ran yet another full-on critical theory piece disguised as news on how these murders are proof of structural racism and sexism — because some activists say they are. Mass killers, if they are motivated by bigotry or hate, tend to let the world know.... When the cops reported the killer’s actual confession, left-Twitter went nuts. One gender studies professor recited the litany: 'The refusal to name anti-Asianess [sic], racism, white supremacy, misogyny, or class in this is whiteness doing what it always does around justifying its death-dealing … To ignore the deeply racist and misogynistic history of hypersexualization of Asian women in this ‘explication’ from law enforcement of what emboldened this killer is also a willful erasure.'"
From "When The Narrative Replaces The News/How the media grotesquely distorted the Atlanta massacres" by Andrew Sullivan (Substack).
Sullivan brings up a second issue:
Asians are targeted by elite leftists, who actively discriminate against them in higher education, and attempt to dismantle the merit-based schools where Asian-American students succeed — precisely and only because too many Asians are attending..... The more Asian-Americans succeed, the deeper the envy and hostility that can be directed toward them....
He doesn't mention the big lawsuit that's knocking on the door of the Supreme Court, Students for Fair Admissions Inc. v. President & Fellows of Harvard College. This is an effort to overrule the case that permits race to be taken into account in admissions decisions, and it is premised on the problem of discrimination against applicants with Asian ancestry.
I've been wondering about mainstream media's intense focus on anti-Asian sentiment. Do WaPo and the NYT not notice that this newfound empathy for Asian Americans threatens to undermine affirmative action at this moment in the development of constitutional law?
Now, I'd like to see the news told straight, without bias one way or the other, but if narratives are chosen, why are they chosen? Are they chosen carefully, with attention to collateral effects? Maybe WaPo and the NYT just plunged headlong into its narrative because it seems to work as anti-Trump or to continue the momentum of Critical Race Theory, but if you really took Critical Race Theory seriously, you'd worry that these powerful institutions were fortifying white supremacy. In that light, I'm pointing out that there's a real risk of losing affirmative action. Also visible in that light is the question whether affirmative action itself is (and always was) a mechanism of white supremacy.
Does deviousness outweigh recklessness? I really don't know.
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isn't THE FACT, that there ARE white people?
WON'T the world be Imperiled, as long as THAT is true?
AREN'T WHITE PEOPLE, the ACTUAL PROBLEM
Don't We NEED, a FINAL SOLUTION to this problem?
The NYT and the Left is invested in the White Supremacy theory for both anti-Asian and Anti-Semitic attacks for the same reason. It diverts from the real locus of racist hate. Urban Blacks
I'll tell you one thing, if I ever decide to commit mass murder, it will be against straight, white, males. Necessary to avoid having "hate crime" appended to the first-degree murder charges -- which could literally add years to the prison sentence.
Yet still Sully supported the elevation of these people to the highest echelons of power by opposing Trump.
Narrative has replaced news for several decades now.
It's amazing how calm and circumspect normal capitalization looks compared to gilbar's unHINGED RANTING.
I despise, detest, and TOTALLY distrust the NYT...and its little dog WaPoo, too!
The media ignore the fact that the nutter shot a couple of white people as well. The narrative ha been built around the need of the press to keep its “spike” and “surge” keys active post crisis. And thus do we learn of the spike and surge in crimes against Asians. Spikes and surges from a tiny denominator but spikes and surges nonetheless.
Do WaPo and the NYT not notice that this newfound empathy for Asian Americans threatens to undermine affirmative action at this moment in the development of constitutional law?
Somebody didn't notice how fast rules change to further the leftist agenda.
Hint: On a dime, 180 degrees.
Asians will be privileged white supremacists again the moment it is warranted.
New York Times? Of course it is bullshit. Nothing but propaganda since before Duranty.
'What will the slogan be? The slogan to support the anti-Asian narrative with yard signs?
“It ain’t easy being yellow”
“Yellow lives matter”
“Diversity includes slippery slopes”
I've been working this week and have not followed this story closely.
My understanding is that he used a handgun.
Is this being widely reported or are we left to assume that he used an AR-15?
I am guessing the handgun is not widely reported since that would harsh the narrative.
Does anyone following this know?
John Henry
Also visible in that light is the question whether affirmative action itself is (and always was) a mechanism of white supremacy.
It’s founded in white supremacism, and an impregnable elitism. It makes those genuine slots at Harvard all the more valuable. Not to mention that they have been selecting out Asians from Ivy League universities on what amount to cultural grounds for many many years now.
Goodness. If we lose affirmative action, what will be next? Will employers be allowed to hire as they see fit? Whatever will happen if freedom of association is restored????
Do WaPo and the NYT not notice that this newfound empathy for Asian Americans threatens to undermine affirmative action at this moment in the development of constitutional law?
This is all about keeping Asians on the plantation. Think of a witch doctor with a scary mask with rattles on a stick that he uses to keep his charges in line. "Forget about affirmative action, they want to kill you!" I wonder if Asians are actually buying it. I kind of doubt it.
'Asians With Attitude’ Movement Shows Solidarity With Asian-American Community In Rowland Heights (Southern California)
"ROWLAND HEIGHTS (CBSLA) – A movement called “Asians With Attitude” is aimed at uniting all Asians and allies to stand up and fight back against the surge in racism and hate crimes.
Volunteers gathered in Rowland Heights Saturday after a string of robberies in a largely Asian-American community happened over the last few weeks.
“When it happens to your own family, you get enraged. You get upset,” said Vincent Tsao. “You want to do something.”
Tsao’s mother was robbed weeks ago in Nini’s Bakery. Security camera footage shows her putting bread on the counter to pay for it. Seconds later, a man walks in, snatches her purse, and nearly knocked her to the ground before taking off.
“She was upset,” said Tsao. “She was shocked. My parents have been living here for over 25 years and this is the first time that they’ve experienced something like this.”
Asian-Americans across the country are reporting a significant spike in hate crimes, harassment, and discrimination tied to the spread of the pandemic.
According to the group Stop A.A.P.I. Hate and other community groups, there have been more than 3,000 anti-Asian attacks nationwide since March. Of those, nine percent are physical assaults, six percent involve coughing or spitting, and 71 percent are verbal harassment.
The Los Angeles Police Commission said there was a 114 percent increase in the number of hate crimes in 2020 compared to the previous year. That doesn’t include the hate crimes so far this year, like the violent attack on Air Force veteran Denny Kim in Koreatown in February.
“Most of our people are afraid to say or do anything, which I feel that’s why I had to step in, show the people they’re not alone,” said Sam Bun, a local organization of A.W.A. “I wanted to let them know they’re not alone and give the people some hope.”
The first A.W.A. movement gained momentum in Northern California to combat a rise in violence against the Asian American and Pacific Islander communities. Now, Asians With Attitude is hitting the streets in Southern California to stop the spread of hate here.
Young volunteers are getting together to conduct foot patrols in neighborhoods where there have been hate crimes or hate incidents.
“If we don’t do anything, it’s going to keep happening, these attacks are going to keep going,” added Bun.
The group’s first foot patrol was in Chinatown last Saturday. They went to merchants and the elderly in the neighborhood letting them know about the cause to help them feel more secure."
Left unsaid in the article is that the suspects in the Tsao robbery are known to be of a certain race; but I don't think it's necessarily hate or race motivated as much as it's a crime of opportunity - going for the easy mark. Our Dad had his wallet lifted just a few doors down from the bakery a few weeks before. Elders of all races are at risk.
The democrat party press go over-board with narrative pimping - and under-report anything that might make a precious Party Apparatchik look bad.
yeah - We've noticed.
Collins accused “many Asian American Ts, Ss, and Ps” — teachers, students, and parents — of promoting “the ‘model minority’ BS” and of using white supremacist thinking to assimilate and ‘get ahead.’”
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/sf-school-board-member-accused-asians-of-using-white-supremacy-to-get-ahead/
John Henry
if narratives are chosen, why are they chosen? Are they chosen carefully, with attention to collateral effects?
Do the papers set the narrative or do the biggest bullies on the Journolist do that?
They don’t want the fact exposed that heterosexual women are systematically excluded from being counted as victims of gender or sex bias hate crimes by lingering over the subject of whether the killer was motivated by a desire to kill random women — and those wishing to conceal this exclusion include all the Asian American activist groups excitedly exploiting this tragedy to enhance their political power.
And they don’t want to admit that black males and females are the primary assailants of Asians.
And they don’t want to admit that whites are more frequently victimized for their skin color than are Asians, only the hate crimes industry denies this and uses their illicit powers to exclude these crimes in official investigations and what passes for statistics — which are sheer garbage manufactured by the evil hate crime activist industry.
Just try reporting a black on white crime as a hate crime.
"A movement called 'Asians With Attitude’"
No cultural appropriation there! Right N.W.A.?
Asians are too successful for the angry left. The plan to correct this is still in development. The left has not decided if Asians are victims or white supremacists. If the Supreme Court miraculously decides for Asian applicants against Harvard, they will automatically become white supremacists.
Finley Peter Dunne’s Mr. Dooley: "No matter whether the Constitution follows the flag or not, the Supreme Court follows the election returns."
Never more true than last November.
Even the trolls don’t come on here to defend this shit.
Has there been any mention of what kind of Asians?
Indians? Pakistani? Philipino? Cambodian? Turks? Other?
There are so many different kinds of Asians each with distinct cultures, experiences in the us, how they got here and so on that "Asian" seems just as bullshit a term as hispanic/latino.
Probably more so since Hispanics at least share a common language, if nothing else. At least notionally. Many Hispanics don't speak Spanish as a first language, if at all.
John Henry
Asians who support the various initiatives to reduce their representation at highly selective public schools and universities are the good Asians, deserving of sympathy. The ones who oppose such initiatives are the bad, white adjacent Asians, and deserve no sympathy, and in fact perpetuate the very white supremacist regime under which good Asians, and all other BIPOCs and LGBTQs suffer.
The narrative need not be nuanced enough to persuade you. It's for people not paying that much attention and/or without much attention to pay.
We keep bouncing back and forth in the news between the idea that Asians are white (or white-adjacent) and Asians are a minority facing discrimination. Acting as though they are suffering from discrimination by criminals but deserving of discrimination by major institutions is interesting to watch.
Query - Are humans really affected by a steady feed of slanted information, known colloquially as "brainwashing"? The Wikipedia article on brainwashing is interesting, but leaves a lot of loose ends.
From Wiki:
Joost Meerloo, a Dutch psychiatrist, was an early proponent of the concept of brainwashing. ("Menticide" is a neologism coined by him meaning: "killing of the mind.") Meerloo's view was influenced by his experiences during the German occupation of his country and his work with the Dutch government and the American military in the interrogation of accused Nazi war criminals. He later emigrated to the United States and taught at Columbia University.[76] His best-selling 1956 book, The Rape of the Mind, concludes by saying:
The modern techniques of brainwashing and menticide—those perversions of psychology—can bring almost any man into submission and surrender. Many of the victims of thought control, brainwashing, and menticide that we have talked about were strong men whose minds and wills were broken and degraded. But although the totalitarians use their knowledge of the mind for vicious and unscrupulous purposes, our democratic society can and must use its knowledge to help man to grow, to guard his freedom, and to understand himself. [77]"
So would consuming the NYT and the WAPO daily, even under the rubric of reading critically, nonetheless alter the thinking of the ready? I consulted my Magic 8 Ball. It said "Signs point to yes"
Every few years, this industry gins up another favored victim group — for a while it was homeless people. Now it’s Asians. Imagine white people reporting every single nasty slur hurled at them by minorities and demanding it be counted as anti-white simple assault or vandalism.
The entire editorial staff of the New York Times would have to be arrested.
This is all a Democratic party info op. It began around March 5th, with Jorge Ramos writing on the op-ed pages of the NYT, probably because of fears that Asians will support Republicans. This spread to other vehicles, such as PBS, WaPo, and even asian employee groups at tech companies BEFORE Atlanta. The murders in Atlanta happened in the midst of this op. (Soon this op will be cast as a reaction to those murders, I am sure.)
The chief messages of this op are
1.Any violence against Asians is a direct result of President Trump blaming China for the spread of Covid-19 from China to the rest of the world.
2.When the violence has taken the form of elderly Asians being punched in the street by Black men, this is because, historically, America has pitted one minority group against another.
3.Anything bad in the past is part of a pattern stretching throughout the history of America to whatever bad thing happens today.
They dare anyone to disagree, but disagreement is racism, and thus part of the horrible pattern in message #3.
The bigger story is the INCEL Trumpussy went through a pray the gay away christian evangelical brainwashing disguised as therapy run by ex-gay freakshows to cure his "sex addiction".
"Racism" is a tricky concept. Maura Moynihan, who insulted the Chinese couple, has done a lot of work with Tibet and Nepal. I'm not going to speculate about whether that work was useful or positive, but is it racism if you don't like people from a country, but don't hate everyone from that continent or with that color skin?
Probably according to the looser interpretation of the word, though some will object that it isn't "racism" according to an earlier definition. And does that looser interpretation really cohere? If you're talking about "racism" against the French or the Danes, aren't you going to be attacked by the woke community who want the word to be reserved for other cases?
Do WaPo and the NYT not notice that this newfound empathy for Asian Americans threatens to undermine affirmative action at this moment in the development of constitutional law?
No, people are good at compartmentalizing nowadays. The target audience of the Times or MSNBC is woke young people. They can get Asian activists to complain about prejudice one day and other activists to complain about threats to affirmative action and nobody will notice any contradiction.
Howard rose to the troll bait, I guess, but notice that even he wants to change the subject and imagine that his little fascination outweighs the cultural power of the NYT and WaPo. There was a thread on that last week, BTW. Why not go comment there?
Oso Negro said...
Query - Are humans really affected by a steady feed of slanted information
Well that's problematic.
No one, except me, seems to be upset that we really don't have a media (plural) in the USA. We THE media (singular). As shown by their coverage of Trump and the 2016 Jan Riot, the impeachment, the vote fraud, the Biden story, immigration, etc., etc. etc. THE MEDIA marches in lockstep. Its like they all get in a room and decide which stories to bury, which ones to report, and how to report them.
The white house press corps, except for Fox (Sometimes) and the NY post (Sometimes) ask the same questions, from the same slanted direction. If fact, they regard as illegitimate any reporter that does NOT march in lockstep and goes out of the approved approach.
the real crime is the...spin
That's the topic of the post.
People of Asian (excluding Russians, of course) is a color bloc, an identity defined by skin color, selectively, opportunistically, when it is politically congruent.
Oh, Asian-American, 1/2 American, and other fractionated citizenship.
Diversity [dogma] breeds adversity.
One step forward, two steps backward.
i was astounded at all the votes for Biden. But then I realized that many people don't search out news on their own. They just glance at the headlines, or read stuff that Google or facebook says is "news". And they believe THE NARRATIVE that's being jammed down their throats.
"not the brutal murders by one of your hometown heroes.”
And Howard laps up the narrative, choosing to ignore the facts of the matter and focus on the spin the Democrats are furiously pushing in their desperate attempts to keep Asians on the plantation.
I wonder how upset he was when that Rachael Maddow fanboi took a rifle down to a Republican softball game and opened fire? Not upset at all, I am sure. But some crazy person shoots up the massage parlors he somehow blamed for ruining his life, and well, Howard dutifully believes that it's white supremacism and covertly supported by everybody here at Althouse.
There is no "anti-Asian" violence from the Right wing. Zero. There was no "Insurrection". there was no "incitement to insurrection" by Trump. There was no Russia-Trump collusion. There was "suppression of black votes". There is no "Systemic Racism".
Lies and lies piled on other lies. Pravda USA.
Ignore the spin so that you may more easily accept the spin! Ignorance is strength.
This narrative push will come back to bite them in the ass very quickly in other ways, too. The problem is that 95% of the attacks on Asian-Americans, murder, robbery, and assault are committed by ethnic minorities, not white people. The media only barely provide news coverage of those, but they will now be impossible to ignore in the same way.
Additionally, had the murderer in Atlanta been a black guy, it would have been crickets from the media. It would have taken media cryptologists a few days to even figure out the guy was black in that scenario.
Blogger Howard said...
Once again for you people, the real crime is the libtard slanted spin, not the brutal murders by one of your hometown heroes.
Howard. The slanted spin is precisely the topic of this thread. And "hometown heroes"? WTF?
rcocean said...
No one, except me, seems to be upset that we really don't have a media (plural)
THE MEDIA marches in lockstep. Its like they all get in a room and decide which stories to bury, which ones to report, and how to report them.
well, as the legendary IowaHawk is wont to say:
"The purpose of modern journalism is to cover the news, with a pillow, until it stops moving."
Further back, didn't Marshall McLuhan say: The Medium (singular) is the Master?
I have read the straight up news reports of the murders, but I have seen no one discuss what the murderers' political views. Surely his social media has been thoroughly examined by reporters and investigators at the city, state, and federal level. Can someone who has read the narrative stories fill in the details, or is it all a "mystery"? It was interesting to me that the FBI Director came out and explicitly said the motivation doesn't appear to have been racial- this is actually a kind of tell to me, but I would like to have some confirmation.
The news coverage here is a deflection from the leftie position that Asians--those smart, hard-working, math-proficient, astute, violin-playing inscrutable young people--are honorary white people that you can discount from your race-based affirmative action. The story has been "They are too good! They are not POC. They are over-qualified. They don't need help."
Our culture is dominated by credentialed idiots.
One could start to question the quality of those credentials. Sorry, kiddies. You've paid a fortune for a stack of hay.
@RC Ocean - So you mean to say you are not expecting tough questions at the Joe Biden press conference?
Yet still Sully supported the elevation of these people to the highest echelons of power by opposing Trump.
Policies of revitalization, rehabilitation are all well and good, but reconciliation, and bypassing community organizers... well, that is intolerable.
That said, Trump assaulted the 1%ers of global distinction on multiple fronts: progressive prices (e.g. Obamacares); [catastrophic] [anthropogenic] immigration reform; redistributive change (e.g. [catastrophic] [anthropogenic] climate cooling... warming... change, Green Blight, carbon credits); political congruence; CCP, Iranian alliances with "benefits"; #MeToo #HerToo #SheProgressed; reproductive rites: abort the baby, cannibalize her profitable parts, and sequester her carbon pollutants (e.g. keep women appointed available, and taxable; etc.
" It would have taken media cryptologists a few days to even figure out the guy was black in that scenario.”
We are all media cryptologists. It’s easier to find bigfoot than to find a straight story in the NYT.
Howard is circling the drain this morning. Somebody flushed, and he is headed down the pipe and into the sewer.
Sayonara, pal.
I see Howard seems to believe that the guy was a "Trumppussy". Is there any documentary support for that assertion? Like I wrote, I have only read the accounts of the act itself- I tend to skip over "narrative" stories these days to save time since I already know what the narrative is going to be.
The news coverage here is a deflection from the leftie position that Asians--those smart, hard-working, math-proficient, astute, violin-playing inscrutable young people--are honorary white people
Community is downstream from family, or was.
And, lest we forget, the White Hispanic, Also, in turn, the White Black, the deplorable feminine, etc.
You seem to suggest that these people (at the NYT, WaPo, etc.) might be actually thinking - as opposed to just surfing the woke wave and feeding the Beast that is their target audience. I see no evidence of that. Although there are intelligent and thoughtful people on the Left; they are now writing for Substack.
Blogger tim in vermont said...
'Even the trolls don’t come on here to defend this shit."
Wait for it..........wait for it.
Aaand there it is.
Blogger Howard said...
The bigger story is the INCEL Trumpussy went through a pray the gay away christian evangelical brainwashing disguised as therapy run by ex-gay freakshows to cure his "sex addiction"."
Another Biden voter grievance soiboy heard from.
'Colored' people doing really well in a racist society despite being discriminated against for hundreds of years.
No news at 11.
this is whiteness doing what it always does
And this is leftness doing what it always does.
The English humor magazine "Private Eye" thrives on the 180 degree volte faces of the English tabloid press. The mainstream press here does about-faces, too, but no one much pushes the jokes that follow.
I am starting to see headline juxtapositions on Twitter--the mocking comes exclusively from the right.
Are they chosen carefully, with attention to collateral effects?
Asians have been off the oppressed leash since they got here, because they have never had sufficient numbers that people would cater to them.
The liberal media is desperately trying to use fairytales of white supremacy to bring them to heel.
Next they'll tell them they don't want all those spots at Harvard because it will attract unwanted attention.
These messages, of course, come from the anti-racists...
Circling the drain means hitting center Mass. I don't believe it was racially motivated. He was brainwashed to think his christian duty was to put down those harlots and jessabells. Now, other Trumpussy will no longer suffer seduction by these shape shifting shedevils.
Liberal media can push the narrative all they want (including the POTUS). But since Asians are so smart, they know they are a lot safer around white people than blacks. Hell, even black people know they are safer around white people.
We gave you points for showing up, Howard. If “hitting center mass” is how you think of taking a shit, well all we can say is congratulations on the high point of your day.
It's always about women in the audience and what they'll find the most interesting narrative. Men are bad is the universal casting in these narratives. Don't tune away, keep clicking, it's the business model.
For low character, look at the businessmen running that business.
White man evil.
That is all that is important.
If you are at odds of what position to take in a trans vs lesbian battle, just declare the evil nature of white males. It is the perfect armor to take onto the battlefield.
I am unsure about how to prepare my three grandsons. They are bright. Their mother, top 1% with a masters. Father top 2% engineering. The kids only hope are careers rooted in pure STEM, but in 15 years those endeavors too, will be infected. At what level, unknown. Brains, work ethic, and character will allow them to earn a living, but if they seek to lead in their chosen fields? Their race will be disqualifying.
shorter Hoard: It's Trump's fault.
Is it just a coincidence that Howard seems to know pretty much everything about being an Incel?
Discuss.
Recall when the Hillary supporting father of a nutjob mowed down how many in a Florida night club?
On June 12, 2016, Omar Mateen, a 29-year-old local man, killed 49 people and wounded 53 more in a mass shooting inside Pulse, a gay nightclub in Orlando, Florida, United States. Orlando Police officers shot and killed him after a three-hour standoff.
Who did what and why? ooo - Media not interested in pursuing the anti-gay brown dude with a father(D) who openly supported Hillary.
"New York City Mayor Bill De Blasio (D-NY) was chased away from an anti-Asian crime vigil he was speaking at."
I saw that headline and did a double take.
I first thought it was some sort of crime vigil that was anti-asian.
Then I thought a vigil against crimes by Asians.
It took several reads to figure out that it was a vigil against crimes directed against Asians.
John Henry
Does deviousness outweigh recklessness?
Short answer: No. Both Left and Right are now “any weapon to hand” ideologies, long-term consequences be damned.
Asians, with IQ 105, can do white mathematics in spite of the white culture contribution. Blacks, with an average IQ of 86, can't. Apparently it's not culture. Asians destroys a narrative that leftists want to keep.
I think narratives are chosen to create drama. The drama drives attention to the media and in turn gives Democrats a chance to show they have a solution. The solution doesn't matter, because the issue was never a problem in the first place. Again, it was a created.
Let's look at this shooter case. The Director of the FBI says no evidence exists that the shooter was racially motivated or acted due to COVID. The evidence we do have is the shooter was motivated by an addiction he blamed on his victims. In Texas, this guy would be up for Capital Murder with the potential for a death penalty sentence, which is about as harsh as any punishment a state could deal out.
However, the media is claiming the shooting is racially bias. People are commenting all over the place about the story of the racially bias shooting. Biden has now stepped in with a solution. He is calling for a COVID-19 Hate Crimes Act. Why? Isn't COVID-19 a pandemic that will end in due course? Hasn't his FBI Director stated their is no evidence for a hate crime in this shooting either for race or COVID-19? Yes for both, but again the solution doesn't matter. The Democrats have shown they care. And regardless of the outcome, the fake problem will go away when the media is done, because it was never a problem anyway.
The real insidious thing is the original Hate Crime legislation which is the tool now used to divide this country. Its whole premise is based on creating an inequality for justice while suggesting it resolves that inequality. Without Hate Crime legislation, everyone could get behind the simple fact that this shooter needs to be heavily punished regardless of his intent. With Hate Crime legislation, we are divided on why the shooter should be heavily punished, and bonus, the shooter gets far more publicity for his concerns than he should have ever received for carryout an universally understood heinous crime.
@tim in vermont:
Yet still Sully supported the elevation of these people to the highest echelons of power by opposing Trump.
These people occupied the highest echelons of power long before Trump was ever president. Their power does not depend on the outcome of an election. It's a dominant point-of-view in academia, the media, and large sectors of the corporate world.
Howard imagines that no Democrats have problems with mental illness. It reminds me of when Iran said that there are no gay Iranians. It’s the same thought process.
No April, it's the fault of backwards homegrown christian brainwashing.
Trump didn't create them, he just knows how to attract them to giant arena events and the US Capitol.
"Their power does not depend on the outcome of an election. “
Except now they can write diktats, err.... I mean decrees... wait, I mean executive orders.
"it's the fault of backwards homegrown christian brainwashing.”
Obviously!
The brilliance of Democrat propaganda is that it rewards its targets with frissons of superiority. Bigots don’t feel low and mean, they feel superior, like Howard.
The narrative is useful to the gun control bills in Congress. Guns = racist hate.
Tim: Although he's overblown, I agree with Crack about the destructive leftist new age and self help crazy cult. They also have a crazy christian neo-marxist cult that share some Bircher paranoia stories. Don't get me started on the envron mental.
I owned a home near the Etowah River in Cherokee County. Snake handling was main stream and the Klan was downtown Main Street. I love the smell of the chicken plant in the morning...
Rowland Heights, interesting on new group...
They were trying to get media attention, but got ignored. Due to Atlanta being White suspect, it got lots of attention.
- Rowland Heights seems to be a hunting ground for those of a certain race.
- I saw the video at NieNie Bakery. You guessed it on the race. Lady went to bank, then bakery, guy followed her in and took her purse. It was covered big on the local Facebook and next door groups. Race was downplayed, or even questioned.
- similar lady got robbed in her garage after going to bank. I think person got caught on this.
- guy walking down same street bakery is on (Colima) had a shot gun pointed at him, and his phone stolen.
- huge influx of homeless. A hotel a couple of blocks away was made into a shelter for homeless. Amazing the virtue signaling on the local next door and FB groups.
- lots of package and mail thefts around Rowland Heights. And catalytic converters.
- local banks due to series of robberies a couple of years ago are now fortresses. Buzzed in, security guards, etc.
The mainstream media's focus and attention on anti-Asian sentiment is just a continuation of the attacks on Trump. His sin was saying out loud that the Covid virus came to be in Wuhan China and that the Chinese government was complicit in covering it up leading to the pandemic.
I've been seeing ads on tv for months advocating against anti-Asian thinking and action, I'm always left to wonder why they are making such a big deal about it when it doesn't appear it is being perpetrated very broadly, if at all.
About a month ago Pelosi was on the news blaming attacks on Asians on white supremacy even though all the recent attackers were black. Now that they have found their white perp they are going to really run with it facts be damned. Many of the stories running today were probably already written.
Yancey Ward said...
This narrative push will come back to bite them in the ass very quickly in other ways, too. The problem is that 95% of the attacks on Asian-Americans, murder, robbery, and assault are committed by ethnic minorities, not white people. The media only barely provide news coverage of those, but they will now be impossible to ignore in the same way.
I very much doubt if non-activist Asian-Americans buy the media narrative because their own real life experiences with the Black community tell them otherwise.
It's not just about Asians who have to deal with crime. My (suburban middle class) Korean stepson often dealt with verbal abuse from Black kids. Consequently, all his friends from HS are White. He is very close lipped about his political views because to voice his thoughts would entail cancellation.
Howard is really getting excited. Go to any Asian massage parlors, Howard ?
John henry said...
Collins accused “many Asian American Ts, Ss, and Ps” — teachers, students, and parents — of promoting “the ‘model minority’ BS” and of using white supremacist thinking to assimilate and ‘get ahead.’”
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I wonder if Coke will also tell Asians to "stop trying to be so White".
Or how about a new Coke jingle aimed at blacks: "I'd like to teach the world to sing....WAP"....
Very catchy.
He doesn't mention the big lawsuit that's knocking on the door of the Supreme Court, Students for Fair Admissions Inc. v. President & Fellows of Harvard College.
There’s a story about Ronald Reagan from when he was governor of California. He was advised that without taking race into account “everyone in Berkeley would be Asian.”
“What’s wrong with that?” Reagan wanted to know.
Kind of summarizes my position, but it’s easy for me to take that position because my sons are very bright and grew up in a household that admired academic success.
The Democrats might be trying to keep attention directed against Trump as a strategy to distract people from focusing on Biden and his weakness. Additionally the Democrats may be courting the Asian vote emphasizing how Trump appeared to make anti-China statements. Asians are the new victim group. We’ll see if Asians take the bait.
Yancey: two of the killer’s roommates say he wasn’t interested in politics and didn’t follow social media or even own a cell phone.
And there was a third non-Asian male victim too. He barely survived several gunshots to the head, neck, and chest. He is Hispanic.
Rich Lowery at National Review hasn’t even bothered to correct his reporting that people other than Asian women were shot or killed. This is the pernicious, dehumanizing effect of hate crime laws. When this animal is tried, his three non-Asian victims, two dead, one nearly killed, will be considered lesser humans in the eyes of the law if they use hate crime charges. Hmm, now which other countries have caste systems that deem some victims less human than other victims?
The main sponsor of Georgia’s hate crime law said yesterday that he had put sex and gender in the categories of hate victimization so he thinks the killer might be tried for anti-female hate. If he is, this will comprise the first time in twenty years the law has been used thus for multiple killings. And then the two men will be the ones dehumanized. But as I told him two years ago, he’s deluded if he thinks the race activists will allow this.
These laws are weapons for imposing identity politics into the very last place it belongs: criminal justice. The big losers are heterosexual women randomly targeted for rape and murder, white targeted by minorities, blacks killed by other blacks, and the Americans murdered on 9/11 and by Major Hassan and other terrorists due to anti-American nationality bias. But the activists wanted statistics that look different from reality. And they call the shots.
The Vice President of the San Francisco school board, Alison Collins, tweeted this once: “Many Asian Am. believe they benefit from the ‘model minority’ BS…They use white supremacist thinking to assimilate and ‘get ahead.'” I think that, where the Critical Race Theory people are going with this, is to treat Asians the same way they treat other minorities. If they're getting beaten up or shot, then they are the victims of obvious racism. If they are trying to be successful in life, then they are being racist by using the tools of White supremacy to get ahead.
Are cops hunting and killing Asians? If not, how do you explain it?
Trying to find logical consistency is a fools game. What they want is what they want at any given time, and if that conflicts with what they wanted yesterday or tomorrow then they still get those too since that was yesterday and tomorrow. When that fails, they suddenly redefine words at a whim or revise history or just cancel everyone who is inconvenient.
"We stand by Asians whom we actively discriminate against and declare tools of white supremacy and physically attack at random on the streets but we only care when a white guy does it." They see no conflict in that whatsoever. And really there is no conflict. They want power, however it can be obtained. They have gone full Orwell. They put an unaccomplished fool suffering from dementia in the White House. I'm not sure what you were expecting.
It needs to be said that the New York Times and the Washington Post are simply newsletters for this incoherent but innately hateful religion. Act accordingly.
They have to keep the "racism" narrative going. They also have to keep the mess at the border out of the paper. And a bonus will be California Asians focusing on racism and not getting so upset by the mess at the border that they turn on the Democrats.
The MSM choose a narrative to benefit the Democrat Party (any suggestion that they are democratic is merely coincidence) and denigrate Republicans. The current narrative of "raging torrents of white supremacy" is their latest smear campaign.
"...Does deviousness outweigh recklessness? I really don't know."
Embrace the healing power of "and!"
Howard - f you.
All sorts of people from all walks of life went to Trump's rallies. That you hold them in the same bucket with this killer just reveals what a pig you are.
and anyone who brings up the Birch society as if it has ANY modern influence is a freaking moron.
I second taxpayer funded cracking. Shut up, Howard, we all explained.
I admit, I don't know how all of this bullshit will end, but you just can't keep blaming people for things they didn't do and expect it to end well.
rhhardin said:
Blacks have an average IQ of 86, East Asians have an average IQ of 105.
How much of that 86 is due to cultural influences, specifically that doing well in school is "acting white" and the lousy schools in Black neighbor hoods? I think part of the lousy school situation is the Black parents not demanding good schools and not telling their kids to study. The while elite parents would eat the school board for lunch if the school board foisted lousy schools on their kids.
Also, the prevalence of single parent (women) house holds and the negative effects of not having the father in the house to discipline the kids and just show that the kids are valuable to the dad. There's a lot of anger in the young black boys because they treated as just an accident of lust.
That's not to say that the average black student is NOT prepared to go to Harvard or Yale because of the poor schooling. Affirmative Action diverts those kids from going to a school where they'd do well to one where they'll fail.
@tim in vermont:
Except now they can write diktats, err.... I mean decrees... wait, I mean executive orders.
Yes, the president has the power to issue directives to the federal departments. That isn't that substantial compared to the power and influence of wealthy urbanites, all major universities, the media, Big Tech, and Wall Street. You think you can stop them from getting what they want by voting for the other guy every four years?
One to many "nots" in the last sentence:
That's not to say that the average black student is prepared to go to Harvard or Yale because of the poor schooling. Affirmative Action diverts those kids from going to a school where they'd do well to one where they'll fail.
“Circling the drain means hitting center Mass. I don't believe it was racially motivated. He was brainwashed to think his christian duty was to put down those harlots and jessabells. Now, other Trumpussy will no longer suffer seduction by these shape shifting shedevils.”
Howard is on to something here. The MSM is pushing this crime as being caused by anti Asian sentiment. I don’t agree. The shooter has been described as a devout Christian and had been a patient at an evangelical facility that dealt with sex addiction, ex gay therapy and conversion therapy, twice, once in 2019 and 2020. He was also a patron of the massage parlor. He himself said that he committed the murders because of a sex addiction. As a devout Christian it is possible that he was struggling with intense guilt and who knows what sort of therapy techniques were used in the facility.
There is far more to this story than anti Asian sentiment and the MSM are mostly missing it.
"Also visible in that light is the question whether affirmative action itself is (and always was) a mechanism of white supremacy.
Does deviousness outweigh recklessness? I really don't know."
You left out stupidity, because how can intellectuals be stupid, right?
CRT holds that middle class white values such as punctuality, focus on achievement, and hard work are racist - correct? If so, what about the fact that many Asian cultures *double down* on these attributes? How is that reconciled?
"Blacks have an average IQ of 86, East Asians have an average IQ of 105."
How much of that 86 is due to cultural influences, specifically that doing well in school is "acting white" and the lousy schools in Black neighbor hoods?
It's independent of culture. It's geneticists doing the study, not sociologists. Geneticists specifically want to eliminate culture effects.
The solution sought isn't about raising IQ but teaching successful traits, summarized as good character, which is where the left and their urban schools (now all schools) fail.
A guy with good character always finds a job where he's productive; a guy with bad character finds no jobs.
He did it because his brain doesn't work right. Like everything else, some brains are defective.
Now, can we move on?
“Most evangelical churches, including Southern Baptist churches, teach that sex is permitted only within heterosexual marriages, similar teaching to the Catholic Church and other Christian traditions. However, several experts have said this week that Long’s ties to evangelicalism shine a light into a subculture called “purity culture,” a belief among some evangelicals that promotes the idea that any sexual desire outside of marriage is lustful, and therefore sinful. Some evangelicals are taught from a young age to control their sexual urges and if they cannot, they are sometimes labeled sex addicts or porn addicts.
On its website, the HopeQuest facility posts a question, “How can I know if my husband is struggling with sexual addiction?” One of the answers includes, “You find receipts for sexually-related activities or purchases (i.e. drinks at a strip club, adult video rental, adult videos charged to hotel bills, etc.).” “Although most men struggle with lustful thoughts, acting on those thoughts — whether through fantasy and masturbation, using pornography or actual contact with another person — is always hurtful to God and damaging to the marriage,” the website states. “The struggle with sexual thoughts and behaviors becomes problematic when a man chooses to use his sexuality to attempt to meet needs for nurture, comfort, solace, significance and security outside of the marriage.””
This is the facility that the shooter was a patient in.
WaPo
I'd eliminate culture effects by including IQ questions that are culture dependent and lower your score if you get them right. That is, specifically test and factor away culture effects on my test. I have no idea what geneticists did in fact. It's an ancient testing field.
“Suspect’s Church Calls Spa Attacks ‘the Result of a Sinful Heart’
A former roommate has described a “religious mania” that marked Mr. Long’s life in the years before the shooting spree. And the police have said that Mr. Long, 21, told them he had a sexual addiction, and that the shootings were an attempt to eliminate temptation.”
NYT
Howard said...
No April, it's the fault of backwards homegrown christian brainwashing.
Which is why the majority of families sending their children to Christian Schools are leftists.
Other than using anti Christian tropes as a rhetorical cudgel, leftist understand the importance of GOD in education, for that is where those of means send their own children.
Inga said...
“Suspect’s Church.....yada yada yada
A former roommate....Yada yada... shootings were an attempt...Yada.
NYT
A typical NYT piece of fiction, and a typical Low Information Voter's taking the bait.
When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
When all the NYT has is Woke Supremacy, everything looks like a hate crime.
“Losing” affirmative action? Exactly the opposite, no matter how any court rules. The administration will ignore adverse rulings to extend racial quotas.
This is just how the press, lead by the Times, works. We all know this.
Asian Americans have been targeted by the Black community for some time now. As has the Jewish community- actually in larger numbers of attacks than the Asian communities. And, importantly, Black communities have been targeted the most- by the Black community.
One would think the outraged Black leaders and BLM people would hang around Chicago, Detroit, Newark, Baltimore, etc neighborhoods and protest the treatment of those citizens once in awhile. Not just when the cameras are rolling. And one would think that people in those communities would stop voting in the same people who keep bankrolling the crime they have to live with. Democrats. If you simply look at track records, you'd have to admit that Democrats are the common denominator.
@rhhardin:
So it pretty much knocks blacks out of education at every level of smartness, in particular smartness that's enough to succeed in the correct college.
So affirmative action isn't a favor to blacks at all after predictable but nevertheless perverse side effects kick in.
I think the Sander's mismatch hypothesis is pretty compelling, and I oppose race preferences at universities. But I am a lot more ambivalent about affirmative action in local, state, and federal hiring. It may be among the better of bad options.
The solution sought isn't about raising IQ but teaching successful traits, summarized as good character, which is where the left and their urban schools (now all schools) fail.
There is a substantial genetic component to character as well. Beyond that, it isn't clear that character traits can be taught in any traditional sense. It's likely that the best way to "teach" good character is to have good character, and it's very unlikely that a teacher could inculcate values that are not present in a youth's home or community.
Apparently it's not culture. Asians destroys a narrative that leftists want to keep.
Both sides rely on a culture narrative. The left blames it on the culture of Anglo-Protestant supremacism, and the right blames it on the culture of welfare dependency, single motherhood, underachievement, and hip-hop. However, IQ is not something that is within a person's control. It can't be obtained through discipline and hard work.
People with low average IQs are the ones who have experienced the most disruption to their economic wellbeing over the last several decades. Automation, outsourcing, mass immigration, the decline of organized labor, and financialization have all put downward pressure on low-skilled jobs. Over this same time period, the upper class made a fortune. Now society is telling them the problem is their bad character?
I've been wondering about mainstream media's intense focus on anti-Asian sentiment. Do WaPo and the NYT not notice that this newfound empathy for Asian Americans threatens to undermine affirmative action at this moment in the development of constitutional law?
I think a lot of journalists have a real blindspot with regard to Asian-Americans. You see this when they talk about tech industry being mostly White, or when they denounce selective public schools as being White supremacist, even though they're mostly Asian. I don't think these are all strategic lies that journalists are putting out. I think a lot of them genuinely don't recognise how Asian-Americans fit into these systems. They're probably aware of (accurate) claims about Asian academic performance, economic performance, and perhaps low levels of social dysfunction (criminality, teenage pregnancy, etc.), but have been taught to dismiss these as a mirage, because they're part of the "model minority myth." Similarly, when people denounced attacks on Asians as a result of White supremacy even though most of them were by Blacks, well, I think some people were making a cynical strategic choice to push the Big Lie, but I think most people making that link were genuine. They have a mental model with Whites on one side and everyone else on the other, and it's quite difficult for them to recognise situations where that model produces garbage results.
So here, they probably look at denouncing anti-Asian attacks as nothing more than an opportunity to solidify Asian affiliation with the anti-White coalition represented by Black and Hispanic activists. And they aren't thinking through any ramifications of Asians getting discriminated against in college admissions because for them, it literally can't be true -- how could tests and grades be White supremacist and end up benefitting Asians over Whites? They're obviously White supremacist, because Blacks and Hispanics do poorly, ergo Asians can't really be benefitting. Someone must be engaging in dishonest presentation of statistics. QED.
Furthermore, I don't think sympathy with Asians will really undermine affirmative action because the kind of people who decide these cases -- and the kind of people they socialise with -- care about Asians, if at all, mostly as unwelcome competition for their own sons and daughters. You think the chairman of Willkie Farr would be going around bribing admissions staff at colleges if they threw out test scores and went all in on holistic admissions? If affirmative action goes just because test scores show admissions offices systematically discriminating against Asian applicants, it's the thin end of the wedge! They can't let that barricade fall until they succeed in getting rid of test scores entirely. Which is the endgame, as we're seeing in California.
Of course, once there's no meaningful data on applicants' academic performance at all, just meaningless grade-inflated high school GPAs and the kind of exotic extracurriculars rich people can pay for and poor people can't, middle class Asian grinds won't have any way of proving they were discriminated against anymore. And rich parents won't have to commit test fraud and bribery to help their children circumvent the standardized testing that currently stands in the way of their privilege.
As long as Mr. Power Glutes keeps supporting the biased media political party, all his bloviating essays are meaningless.
It's likely that the best way to "teach" good character is to have good character, and it's very unlikely that a teacher could inculcate values that are not present in a youth's home or community.
Teaching good character has a lot to do with discipline, and that involves fathers a lot. If boys are feral children at home and on the street, school is not going to work. The nuns did a pretty good job of teaching diagramming sentences and math times tables but they had to have basic discipline to accomplish anything. From what I see of schools in "Inner cities" they are a waste of time and money. There are kids who want to learn and mothers who want their kids to get an education but the thug/rap culture is in the way. Now we have white radicals who are opening prisons and sending offenders home with no bail.
There used to be an old Texas motto. "Some people just need killin'."
Leave the Asians ALONE!
At least the Chinese.
we have high speed rail to build!
Truth hurts, April.
Teaching good character has a lot to do with discipline, and that involves fathers a lot.
The hard cases that the nuns couldn't handle were handed over the the Fathers, who in our locale were a bunch of tough Italians and Irish priests, whose spirituality did not stop them from being corporal.
the Fathers, who in our locale were a bunch of tough Italians and Irish priests, whose spirituality did not stop them from being corporal.
My right TM joint still pops from being slugged by an Irish Christian brother when I was in high school. Those days are gone, I fear.
There are a lot of insightful comments (special mention Balafegor). But here's one thing I don't think has been mentioned: Reporters for WaPo, NYT, CNN and other news outlets are lazy and stupid. It is always safe to just run with the herd. A reporter (watch what happens to Sullivan) who calls out the laziness and misreporting will not be rewarded, but condemned.
There are so many different kinds of Asians each with distinct cultures, experiences in the us, how they got here and so on that "Asian" seems just as bullshit a term as hispanic/latino.
You need to get with the program. It's Asiax.
Furthermore, I don't think sympathy with Asians will really undermine affirmative action because the kind of people who decide these cases -- and the kind of people they socialise with -- care about Asians, if at all, mostly as unwelcome competition for their own sons and daughters.
Exactly. It’s one thing to keep some hicks from the sticks out of Harvard to make room, but when it comes to their own children...
Inga, jow many times do you have to be lied to by the Washington Post before you wonder if maybe that if you are not being lied to on any particular day, you are daily being actively misled.
Long’s ties to evangelicalism shine a light into a subculture called “purity culture,”
That’s a pretty big leap! Sherlock Holmes had nothing on the intrepid guilt sniffers at the WaPo! Not to worry, I am sure that they documented the leap of logic at every stage, so it wasn’t just the thinnest hook to get to the two-minute hate propaganda they know their readers are so eager to lap up.
Inag is big on guilt by association and collective punishment, but don’t compare her to the fascists!
Now do the Maddow show and the gun rampage at the softball field, Inag.
Big Brave Covid Realist Tim said...
“Now do the Maddow show and the gun rampage at the softball field, Inag.”
Now do Fox News and the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville.
And Big Brave Covid Realist Tim...
How can it be guilt by association when the shooter himself said he murdered those people because he was a sex addict and the shootings were an attempt to eliminate temptation.
Inga said...
Now do Fox News and the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville.
100 or so losers that nobody likes organized by Occupy Wall Street.
Everyone on this board despises everyone that was in Charlottesville associated with white supremacy.
You know that.
But you are just a piece of shit. You support an illegitimate regime that is trying to destroy the country.
You cannot defend anything the Regime is doing.
You cannot defend the lies the media is telling that you run with.
You are a completely dishonest person.
You are possessed by the ideas you pretend to hold and betray every day.
So you lie and pretend we are somehow associated with them.
And you lie and pretend Trump did not denounce them.
You are just a terrible person.
An honest and decent person would apologize to Brian Sicknick's family for lying about how he died for weeks.
But Inga just shrugs about another lie she used to attack people and soldiers on.
A decent person would admit the Russia collusion hoax was bullshit from the start.
A completely dishonest person on the other hand runs away from the truth.
That is all you do Inga. You move from one lie to the next with no conscience or decency.
There is a substantial genetic component to character as well. Beyond that, it isn't clear that character traits can be taught in any traditional sense.
Nevertheless good character can be taught (and learned) regardless.
Besides human experience, it's obvious in dogs, where there's no breed that can't be taught to be a gentleman at all times; regardless of temperament of the breed or the individual. E.g. The Koehler Method of Dog Training.
@Achilles,
You are a completely dishonest person. You lie and pretend every liberal, leftist, Democrat is associated with Antifa.
You lie and pretend Trump won the election and pretend there was massive voter fraud.
Anything you have to say to me is taken with considering the source, which is an extremist and dishonest person, you. Or if you believe the nonsense you put forth, then you are extremist and delusional, which is not a good combination and cannot be taken seriously.
"You lie and pretend every liberal, leftist, Democrat is associated with Antifa. “
I see she still hasn’t responded to the murder cult that formed around her hero Rachael Maddow and still keeps quoting the known lying rag the Washington Post.
The election was rigged There are now rulings in three of the close states that election laws were violated to allow a free for all on mail in ballots. GA, we see that officials who were entrusted to oversee a “fair” election lied about Trump’s words and were only caught because they were unable to delete every recording of the conversation.
Here's a thought: mass murderers are so demented that no one else is to blame. It is not society's fault, or Jesus's fault, or Buddha's fault, or Father Mike's fault. It is insanity.
The voices in the guy's head were telling him to do something no sane person would do.
“There are now rulings in three of the close states that election laws were violated to allow a free for all on mail in ballots.”
Yet the USSC with three of Trump’s own nominees on it, didn’t agree
“Here's a thought: mass murderers are so demented that no one else is to blame. It is not society's fault, or Jesus's fault, or Buddha's fault, or Father Mike's fault. It is insanity.
The voices in the guy's head were telling him to do something no sane person would do.”
My thought too, another thought, some people don’t have the emotional stability to rationalize their sexual drive against what they were taught was sinful.
"Yet the USSC with three of Trump’s own nominees on it, didn’t agree.”
These were from state courts on their own constitution, there is little likelihood that the SCOTUS will get involved.
The Washington Post and the New York Times, MSNBC, and CNN, all of your favorite news sources certainly covered for ante-fa, describing their rioting as “mostly peaceful” you keep quoting these sources.
Once Meadehouse turns on the captcha, I take that as a hint, BTW.
"I owned a home near the Etowah River in Cherokee County. Snake handling was main stream and the Klan was downtown Main Street. I love the smell of the chicken plant in the morning..."
And those people are almost all democrats...descendants of the democrats that owned slaves and perpetrated Jim Crow.
An inconvenient truth.
Prostitution is inherently fraught with violence. In the low rent arena this guy patronized, it’s also not entirely voluntary on the part of those Asian women. They are usually indentured servants.
I doubt that you can categorize patrons of these joints by political affiliation. Probably all denominations among the customer base.
Liberals like to suggest that being fucked in the head and guilt ridden about sex only afflicts one side of the political spectrum, their opponents. Sexual liberation, as we used to call it in college, was supposed to be how to stop people from being fucked in the head and guilt ridden about sex.
Being fucked in the head and guilt ridden about sex crosses all political boundaries, and encompasses the religious and the non-religious.
Joseph Smith: The local area around Acworth and Woodstock went for Trump at 67%. It's been solidly republican for a loooong time. The blue dogs turned to red Republicans when Ronnie Reagan sold weapons to the Mad Mullahs and Al Qaeda.
Amadeus 48,
The news coverage here is a deflection from the leftie position that Asians--those smart, hard-working, math-proficient, astute, violin-playing inscrutable young people--are honorary white people that you can discount from your race-based affirmative action.
Yes, I do believe you've gotten every stereotype in there, even "inscrutable." Bravo!
I would really, really love to know who launched "model minority." Wikipedia credits two articles from 1966 (i.e., before I was born). These days, "model minority" is attached to "myth" so often that you'd want a macro to type them as a single keystroke. Apparently the worst thing in the world to be is diligent, attentive, punctilious, hardworking, smart, astute, and on time. It's a myth, I tells ya!
Yeah, the sort of "myth" whose gist persists after 55 years. Maybe -- just maybe -- the reason "Asian" kids (which is absurd on its face, anyway -- has anyone seen how large "Asia" is on the map? How many peoples live there?) do well in school is because they generally have two parents, they study hard, they don't lip off constantly in class, they turn in homework when it's due and show up when classes start? Are we seriously backing a system that says all of this is wrong? Or, even worse, white?
Inga,
A former roommate has described a “religious mania” that marked Mr. Long’s life in the years before the shooting spree. And the police have said that Mr. Long, 21, told them he had a sexual addiction, and that the shootings were an attempt to eliminate temptation.”
I suggest telling this to the NYT and the WaPo, who have been running with the "Anti-Asian man, probably part of the 'spike,' doubtless something to do with Trump and COVID-19" line for days now, almost from the moment of the murders.
"The local area around Acworth and Woodstock went for Trump at 67%."
So you're saying the 'snake handlers' and Klan members are smarter than you?
I knew that already.
Howard,
Joe Smith isn't "Joseph Smith." For all you know, his full name is "Jonah" or "Joalla" or "Jose." You are calling him "Joseph" in a really pathetic attempt to connect him to the LDS Church. Might I suggest cutting that out?
If you were a recent Asian-American college graduate in the humanities, you might be drawn into all of this. If you're a recent immigrant working on an assembly line or trying to keep a small business afloat, you probably won't be. The humanities graduates probably think they will come out on top by continually taking about anti-Asian racism. For all I know they might. For them it might be the best strategy for their own personal advancement.
"another thought, some people don’t have the emotional stability to rationalize their sexual drive against what they were taught was sinful."
I think we are beyond emotions here. Anyone who does something like this is insane.
If this were a movie, and movies always go for the cheapest and most obvious emotions, there would be a scene where the girls laughed at him and that set him off. But this is real, and he is crazy.
Next, he'll say Joe Biden came to him at night and told him to stand up for himself and be a man...like Cornpop.
“I suggest telling this to the NYT and the WaPo, who have been running with the "Anti-Asian man, probably part of the 'spike,' doubtless something to do with Trump and COVID-19" line for days now, almost from the moment of the murders.”
This quote WAS from the NYT. My earlier quote was from WaPo. They both address his statements relating to his stated cause of his murdering these people as well as his being a patient at the evangelical facility HopeQuest, that dealt with sexual addiction, ex gay therapy and conversion therapy.
Not a happy ending.
Affirmative Action probably is in danger.
The new nomenclature is "Equity".
rhhardin- "Men are bad is the universal casting in these narratives."
When I was young, I was bad. Women flocked to me.
I was young and naïve.
When I got older, I was an asshole. Women flocked to me.
Now that I am old, I've tired of women flocking to me. The smell of a woman is no longer intoxicating.
I don't like casseroles.
Hindus predicted this. At the end of life...attend to God.
God wants me to relent. I know that. God wants me to relent.
J Farmer...can I get an Amen?
Not addressed in defining the cause of the Atlanta shootings is the likely possibility that the events were caused by a man on an antidepressant drug. Read this article:
"An Uncomfortable Truth: A Look at the Corresponding Rise of Antidepressants, SSRIs, and Mass Shootings"
The likely medication comes from a list of 11 psychotropic drugs known as Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors (SSRIs) which have been around since the late 1960s to treat depression. The FDA has determined that these antidepressants have a ‘disproportionate’ association with violence." You will likely recognize some of the names of top bad guys which cause violence eight to 10 times more often than patients not exposed to the drugs - Prosac, Paxil, Luvox, Effexor and Pristiq. If quitting smoking is the name of your game stay away from Chantix.
Depression in particular doesn’t lead to violence, yet since the increase in SSRI antidepressants being widely prescribed, the rise in mass shootings has increased right along with it. And evidence shows that many mass shooters were either taking or had recently taken SSRIs.
Althouse asks . . . but if narratives are chosen, why are they chosen? Are they chosen carefully, with attention to collateral effects?
In answer to your questions, they are not chosen carefully.
They are the result of the three C's of bourgeois decision making: Contingency, Compromise, and Consensus.
Or, to come at the question from a different direction, narrative is a species of rhetoric, and even the ancients knew that while rhetoric was the most attractive and powerful use of the liberal arts, it does not lead you to truth.
"... but if you really took Critical Race Theory seriously..."
Ann, I keep coming over because you are clearly smart (by nearly all definitions of the word), willing to engage other opinions, and provide at least some reasonable alternative even when I think you are deeply wrong. But this attitude recurs. Perhaps it is a hopeful pose on your part, that there are prominent liberals somewhere who can be reasoned with, and your declaratives will shake them into sense. Also, you are about my age and background, so I believe we should have enough cultural similarity to overcome any initial lack of concord.
Yet you persist in believing that public liberals mean what they say, and attach the usual meanings to words. As you have been in an academic life, this likely influences you, because you know liberals who at least understand the traditions of discourse, attend to the meanings of their words, and consider the possible downstream effects of ideas. I am not just being difficult here. I have exactly the same response to the clergy/theologians/religious writers of my generation, and the psychiatrists/psychologists/social workers as well. (To a lesser extent, linguists, geneticists, anthropologists, who I also keep contact with. And don't even get me started on theater and medieval literature.) Some of them are decent, reasonable people up to a point. I can at least fantacise situations in which something happened in American politics where the scales suddenly fell from their eyes and they said "Y'know, Wyman, you've been saying that for years, haven't you?"
But those are not closely related to public liberals. They follow them, because they have these odd ideas about tribe and class that they rely on instead of logic. Yet the public liberals only use words instrumentally, not for denotative meaning. They in no way take CRT seriously in the sense of looking at meaning. If you bring that up you will be nodded to politely and ignored. They don't care. If you put them on a stage with a spotlight without surrounding support and asked them from the dark of the auditorium what CRT is, with you challenging them on points as they went forward, you could reduce them to tears - or simple incoherence - fin five minutes. Do not apply the honored standards of discourse to these people. We are dinosaurs. If they cannot answer, they just change the subject and assume they will outlive you, or at least your public influence.
We are only the next step downward since 1954: De Decriptione Temporum https://homepages.uc.edu/%7Eschaefdw/temporum.html
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