He's revealed that he changed what he was going to say because the House Managers' presentation was so good and rambled about how we all feel emotional when we've witnessed violence and — seeming to want to discourse on the subject of the specialness of U.S. Senators — he takes us back to his childhood, when he used to listen to a record — an old-time LP on a record player, remember those things? — and his parents had a record of Senator Everett Dirksen, I bet some of you remember Everett Dirkson, oh, my, he had a deep, resonant, sonorous voice, he would intone, intone with such seriousness, about gallant men... that's what the record was called "Gallant Men," though of course, today, it would need to be "Gallant Men and Women" — chuckle, chuckle — because, you know, women, women are gallant too. Shall we talk about gallantry? Gallantry is important in this world, and Senators can be gallant! Some folks say ga-LANT, accent on the second syllable, but whether you say GAL-lant or ga-LANT, whether you be Democrat or Republican, male or female, Kansan or Nebraska — whoever, wherever, from whatever walk of life that may lead you here today to this great chamber, this chamber that was breached — breached! — on that horrible day, you know that violence is wrong, violence is terrible, and violence against the most gallant, most serious, resonant, sonorous-voiced chamber that has ever graced the face of this earth, from the great, gallant Everett Dirkson, through the ages, down to you, you most sonorous and gallant denizens of this sacred chamber, it was a most awful event that occurred that day, January 6th, and it made me think of that time when I was but a little boy, barely able to operate the record player, with its tone arm and its revolutions per minute setting, but I would work oh so hard to cue up that voice, that wonderful voice of Everett Dirkson, why that man, speaking of gallantness — gallantry — it reached me in the depth of my being — though I was but a little boy — and I thought someday, perhaps I too, could find my way to the Senate Chamber and I could stand before it and open my mouth and speak, speak in my voice, a voice that would perhaps have matured in the deep, warm, chilling depth of the deep voice of Everett Dirkson, and I would be standing there, speaking, and... oh, my God, please, let me wake from this nightmare!
February 10, 2021
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Did he do something unconstitutional? Because that truly would be an embarrassment and a nightmare.
A sham impeachment here, a sham impeachment there... and pretty soon you’re talking about real impeachment.
Just watched the House Managers’ video. Slick. Effective. But where’s the connection - especially the timing - between Trump’s language and the rioters?
How come we never see videos like that of the Floyd riots? By that I mean, up close shots with audio?
Oh good lord. What a farce.
"We are impeaching a private individual because he made us look impotent."
What I find amusing is they're just making it worse.
"Gallant Men," though of course, today, it would need to be "Gallant Men and Women" — chuckle, chuckle —
I hate that digression, “the men back then, and it was men back then....” STFU. We know it was men back then. You don’t get points for noticing and pointing it out, just get on with whatever you were saying and stop insulting our intelligence.
Was this guy really surprised by the House’s case? Did he not know they would focus on the violence, that they would try to use emotionalism to override intellects? How did Trump come to select someone so unprepared?
I keep getting distracted by the lapel pin which is something I probably should keep to myself but there you have it.
P.S. Hooray for Meade's 5:31!
How come we never see videos like that of the Floyd riots? By that I mean, up close shots with audio?
Because we don’t have law enforcement and private companies searching through peoples’ phones to bring it to us?
I think it doesn't matter what he says, the votes are already cast. This has nothing to do with boring law or justice; this is the exercise of political power and the expression of ego.
Something's cooking.
It is steak? Is it chicken? Is it rat?
I know I smell something. It's been getting stronger for years, and by now it's almost the only thing I can smell. When was the last time anything good came out of this kitchen?
You wanted boring. Here it is.
I’m taking a break during this show.
Outcome already known.
See you on the other side.
Since Raskin is blaming Trump for 2 suicides that happened after the fact, when do Impeachment trials start for Obama who went after Police all the time?? Want to count how many Police died at the hands of BLM or Antifa because of HIS rhetoric??? Can't wait to impeach Biden for just being delusional and letting Obama run the country for a third term. Obama who is responsible for the deaths of Police that he attacked with his words.
Atticus: “The one place where a man ought to get a square deal is in a courtroom, be he any color of the rainbow - including orange, but people have a way of carrying their resentments right into a jury box.”
Bruce's Wikipedia page already notes that his "bad performance" opening Trump's defense will probably lead to his replacement on the Trump defense team.
Speaking of post hoc impeachment’s. Let’s do FDR next. Locking up hundreds of thousands of Japanese Americans with no trial or due process and while we’re at it get the 6 justices who gave it the gloss of legality in Korematsu. George Takei could be called as a witness.
I’d rate the Democrats in this impeachment trial more Goofus than Gallant.
Needs a cat filter.
I have no desire to watch are country prosecute political show trials with clown lawyers. They have one more chance to save this. I expect that to happen, so just need to wait for it to occur. They already voted as expected once.
What is it with these lawyers? We aren't talking about a new law school graduate who rented a store front. What's up with these experienced lawyers who undoubtedly are charging huge fees based on their reputations.
Lin Woods represented Nick Sandman for months and got settlements from Washington Post and CNN. Now I doubt he actually got the 250 mil he was asking for but they were not insignificant. He got involved in the election case and suddenly started spouting conspiracy theories so extreme that people are calling for a mental health check for him. Sydney Powell methodically worked her way through the Gen. Flynn case for months and suddenly starts making claims that opened her up to defamation cases from voting machine manufacturers. She didn't get to where she was in the world by being that reckless. Then this guy calls on audible - and rambles for 45 minutes - on a prosecution case that anyone paying attention knew to expect.
And don't tell me that me its because of Donald Trump. Tell me he is dumber than a brick or tell me that he is a mastermind, but he's not both.
Taking the Time magazine's articles as the best look for the Swamp, what's worse? Has to be worse.
Did somebody send Castor a picture of his kids standing at the bus stop?
Okay, that's nuts. Give us some other reason this happened. One which makes more sense.
He was hung over? Had had a mini-stroke. Got some of Biden's meds by mistake.
Agreed to take the case as a wonderful surprise because he's hated Trump for years? What an opportunity?
Let's have a reason.
I don't see the quotation marks. How much of that is him and how much is you?
Mikey NTH said...I think it doesn't matter what he says, the votes are already cast
Agreed that Trump has already won in the Senate. But he has a chance here to stick a fork in the House Democratic majority and hand it back to the Republicans in 2022. If the defense sleepwalks through this trial because they already have it won, they will pass up a golden opportunity to advance Trumpian goals for the next decade.
As Robert De Niro said about the past four years of Trump: "It's gangster culture. He has no concept about what the right thing to do for the people in this country."
Yesterday the Mafia Don sent his ill-prepared and totally inept lawyers to trial in the same way the mob always does when the jury in already bought and paid for.
If there is proof that our ex-president cannot be indicted for inciting a deadly riot after he leaves office, we awaited that argument but barely heard any reference to the issue at hand except an admission by Trump's pussycats that House prosecutors won round one.
Tomorrow we will get proof of Trump's last 77 days in office was spent inciting the eventual attack on legislators meeting at the capitol and we will see the cell phone tracking showing attendees at Trump's rally at the Ellipse then moving to and invading the Congress.
More Goofus than Gallant.
At this point, gangster metaphors may be all DeNiro has to describe anything: the man has a very impoverished imagination.
His artistic/intellectual parents definitely failed him by letting the mean streets do the parenting for them.
Process excuse= cant try him in office(Mitch wont do it)cant try him out if office(Mitch process argument.Politics is easy to follow,the votes,the $$$ and the Power keeps all bow in the serf category.Joe meaning while doing Cabinet confirmations,Covid ultra bill and impeachment.Trump t l at once trump still holds and hires the worst people in the world as the worlds worst manager in history, 1 term fluke.Next Reconciliation #2 Thanks Mr.Nixon.
Your big mistake was watching it at all.
Sen. Bill Cassidy made a bigger mistake. Now he'll have to come up with a reason to acquit if he wants to get re-elected. Everyone else that voted the thing is unconstitutional can just rely on that.
I'd guess that you can't say anything that will offend women so there's not much left.
Maybe Mafia Don wants to be impeached. From 'jail' he can direct activities and be nowhere near the action. Barack Obama did something similar.
There is no doubt about it, America has the most putrid ignorant government class that money can buy, they are worthy of the deepest contempt. The Democrats have no morals, brains, or attractiveness. But they do have power to abuse you.
Tomorrow we will get proof of Trump's last.....
The trolls are getting really lazy. Now they are cutting and pasting their stuff from 3 1/2 years ago.
Boooooring, zzzzzz
I am haunted by the Georgia Senate elections. There is nothing that Trump cannot screw up by misreading the situation.
I have always said that it is impossible to be Donald Trump's lawyer. He won't take your advice, he will tell you to do things that are at best ethically questionable, and then when things go wrong he'll blame you--and won't pay your bill.
Is anyone surprised that DJT ended up with this kind of representation? Think about who his private lawyers have been, starting with Roy Cohn.
I managed to make it through ten minutes of the House Impeachment Managers' case. Ten minutes.
Then I had to turn it off.
This whole this is so boring.
I've watched/listened to zero minutes. Trump will be acquittaled. The inneresting question is will the dims go after him criminally?
I have that record, though I haven't thought about it in fifty years and couldn't remember the title. Dirksen was the last (or maybe the only) Republican politician to win a Grammy. Since then it's been all Democrats: Carter (three times), both Clintons, both Obamas, Jesse Jackson, Al Franken (for spoken word and for comedy), and Al Gore's book (I guess nobody wanted to hear him reading it), not to mention Stephen Colbert, Jon Stewart, Maya Angelou and Garrison Keillor. Before Dirksen, posthumous FDR and JFK tribute albums won. Watch this year and see if they give it to Hunter Biden (his book has everything the recording industry loves) or Jill Biden (the safer choice).
They used to call Dirksen "the Wizard of Ooze," though there was disagreement about whether that was because he was corrupt or because his rich, viscous, "sepulchral baritone" seemed to seep slowly like molasses over whatever he was talking about. When I went to look at Dirksen's album Janis Ian's "At Seventeen" came out with it. I will have to ponder what the universe is trying to tell me today.
Howard? Is that you? "the dims"?
This could be the start of a great friendship.
I think criminal incitement is very hard to prove.
NY will do whatever New York does regarding the businesses of the Trump Organization, but the Stormy Daniels investigation appears kaput, but I think there are riper targets--like Cuomo. Heh.
Dirksen was from Pekin, IL--then home of the Chinks.
A shorter defense opening statment:
"Mr. Chief Justice, Oh, sorry. I thought this was supposed to be an impeachment of a president. Who is that up there? Leahy? LEAHY? Senator Depends? The guy who used to pal around with that murderer Ted Kennedy, absuing waitresses?! Well, ok, then. Senator Leahy, this is a farce and a sham and had you ever had any shame, you'd gavel this idiocy closed and go back to the nursing home where you belong."
"That said, the Democrats cannot show that the president incited a riot without lying about the timeline, his statements, and the riot participants, which they have already done in their opening video, which is fraudulently edited as to time and place of statements made, and omits exculpatory evidence by the truckload. This is a farce, and you all know it."
Browndog: “We are a clown country with no virtue.”
Ann: the New York Times is basically threatening anyone who would defend Trump. The ABA is trying to force Lin Wood to be institutionalized. Others in your profession are outright declaring that anyone who represents Trump will be destroyed professionally. Much of of this grotesquely unethical behavior is coming from law professors and other pundit types.
Whether or not Wood merits a psych consult, it is terrifying that the fucking, and I’m sorry to use that word but in this case it is so very richly earned, ABA is weaponizing a threat to involuntarily commit a lawyer to a mental institution because of his politics. It’s terrifying that people in your profession are not rising up en masse and declaring that threatening lawyers for providing representation to a president of the United States is behavior deserving of professional censure. You don’t get worked up when lawyers represent serial killers, right? You get tenure and professional accolades for doing that.
Hell, why bother pretending your two professions have a thimble of ethics between them? If lawyers and law professors in particular do not stand against this rising darkness, then all of you have failed at the moment you and everything you are supposed to represent are clearly facing existential destruction.
I don't have a sophisticated legal mind, so what I thought during his presentation is that he got his talking points from Joe Biden's debate performance when he told parents to play the record player for their kids.
Everett M. Dirksen was one of the greatest statesmen of 20th century America, a giant in his time. More than anyone else, Dirksen -- and the Republicans, not the Democrats -- was responsible for enacting the civil rights legislation that spelled the end of the Jim Crow era.
Castor was this bad.
Stephen Colbert:
“[Imitating Castor] I am the lead prosecutor — sorry, the defense — here to prove the president is guilty — sorry, innocent — and should be sent to jail — sorry, to Mar-a-Lago. Wow. I guess Freud’s mom’s got my penis, I mean, cat’s tongue!’”
Want nightmares, Brucie? Just study the history of statism and its horrors.
I listen to about six minutes and I had to turn it off. I realized he had nothing to say and wasn’t going to get there anytime soon.
This would be a nice time to revisit Obama’s eulogy of the five officers murdered and dozen more shot by a pro-Obama BLM terrorist, during which Obama blamed the dead officers for being murdered and the widows and widowers and children sat there numb and terrified to react.
I would have punched his lights in, damn the consequences.
And then there was Senator Dirksen's magnificent rendition of the Troggs' "Wild Thing." With a bit of coaching from Bobby Kennedy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBR6ndAwJJs
I voted for Trump twice, not because he was so great but because the Dems were so terrible. I did not have high hopes, but even so, I am amazed that after almost 5 years of nonstop abuse and being stabbed in the back (Sessions, Wray, Hempel, Mcmaster, Mattis, Tillerson, Barr, Bolton, McConnell-Ryan-McCarthy, on and on; giving a long interview to Woodward--OMG!! deferring to Graham for his first legal team?? WTF???), he still has not figured out that the entire bipartisan establishment loathes him and will destroy him and his entire family if it can. nd the only restraint on them is if he makes a convincing case to "the court of public opinion" And given all the censorship, the impeachment trail may be his last, best chance to get that message out.
Even if he wants to just retire and go off into the sunset, they won't let him.
If he is to survive he needs to take it all seriously, and after everything he still acts as if he doesn't get it. And after this impeachment will come charges and lawsuits in State courts, for commercial fraud in his business dealings, and God knows what else.
Can he be so naive as to not understand that a half dozen or more Democratic AGs and local prosecutors are sharpening the knives? And if he keeps showing that he cannot organize a half-serious defense against a bogus impeachment, they will be encouraged to up the ante against him? What ambitious Democrat could resist the temptation? Can any ADULT in his right mind be that naive? I don't see how, but here we are.
So he is upset, we are told. Well, who picked this guy, who helped strategize how this would be approached? There were no surprises in the initial House presentation, no reason not to present a strong, multi-faceted defense across a whole range of good arguments available to him. But, no.
Maybe Trump really is as lazy as his opponents kept saying... that might explain this. Lazy or stupid or just checked out seem the best possibilities, but in any of those cases it is hard to see why I should continue to care. I do not wish him ill, and in fact appreciate his sacrifices and much of his effort since mid-2015, but going forward, what is the point?
Retaining this clown as his counsel is not the move of a serious person, and frankly, if Trump cannot take seriously his own fate and that of his children and grandchildren, it is getting hard for me to care about him, either.
Based on Althouse's re-enactment, I think these lawyers have decided to "run out the clock." They know Trump has the votes, so they do and say nothing that will stir up the jury and they just meander about, pouring out gush about the jurors, waiting for the jury to vote. Lawyers think that way. This is a show trial, a political trial or else John Roberts would be presiding. In politics today, the Fear-Staters are overwhelmed by fear and want to hide in dreams of a legendary, invincible past; the Free-Staters are convinced of a clear and present danger that must be encountered and overcome. Every issue has become: which of these sides are you on? In the ensuing conflicts, Trump is always being presented with the question of whether or when to accept the "experts" advice, e.g., the public health chieftains, the lawyers, or to follow his own political instincts. And he always has a limited time window in which to decide and he always must decide. Here, he seems to have gone with: follow the advice of the lawyers and Mitch McConnell: there will be another election in America (see article in Time), prepare for that.
Castor's approach to the senators, complete with folksy stories, was exactly that used by a trial attorney addressing a jury of ordinary folks. While that mode of argument might work with a jury, it has the exact opposite effect on a group of senators.
---Hell, why bother pretending your two professions have a thimble of ethics between them? If lawyers and law professors in particular do not stand against this rising darkness, then all of you have failed at the moment you and everything you are supposed to represent are clearly facing existential destruction.
Hear, hear, Tina Trent. Worth repeating.
This stuff is beyond "getting" bad. We're there.
The US Capitol is neither 'sacred' nor a citadel. It is defiled. It is a den of thieves; it's structure made up of parasites. Our Judiciary is illegitimate. The marble columns that pretend to be permanent... crumble.
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