January 26, 2021

"We’re glad Senator McConnell threw in the towel and gave up on his ridiculous demand. We look forward to organizing the Senate under Democratic control and start getting big, bold things done for the American people."

Said Justin Goodman, a spokesman for Mr. Schumer, quoted in "McConnell Relents in First Filibuster Skirmish, but the War Rages On/Senator Mitch McConnell dropped his demand that Democrats promise to preserve the procedural weapon that can grind the Senate to a halt, but with President Biden’s agenda in the balance, the fight is not over" (NYT).
Senator Mitch McConnell... had refused to agree to a plan for organizing the chamber without a pledge from Democrats to protect the filibuster, a condition that Mr. Schumer had rejected. But late Monday, as the stalemate persisted, Mr. McConnell found a way out by pointing to statements by two centrist Democrats, Senators Joe Manchin III of West Virginia and Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona, that said they opposed getting rid of the procedural tool — a position they had held for months — as enough of a guarantee to move forward without a formal promise from Mr. Schumer.... 
As they press forward on Mr. Biden’s agenda, Democrats will come under mounting pressure from activists to jettison the rule....  “I feel pretty damn strongly, but I will also tell you this: I am here to get things done,” said Jon Tester, Democrat of Montana. “If all that happens is filibuster after filibuster, roadblock after roadblock, then my opinion may change.”...

We were just talking about Tester. Remember? He's the Senator who brings his own meat to Washington and wants to "get shit done."

Democrats say they must retain at least the threat that they could one day end the filibuster, arguing that bowing to Mr. McConnell’s demand now would only have emboldened Republicans to deploy it constantly, without fear of retaliation. “Well that’s a nonstarter because if we gave him that, then the filibuster would be on everything, every day,” Senator Richard J. Durbin of Illinois, the No. 2 Senate Democrat, said Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press."  

Ah! That makes the most sense of it all. Democrats want the threat of abolishing the filibuster, and Republicans are moderated by the threat alone. Notice that actually to change the rule would require every single Democratic Senator to agree and a tiebreaker vote from Kamala Harris would still be needed. That's a lot of cohesion. 

Kyrsten Sinema is up for reelection in 2024, and she took over a seat that had been held by a Republican. The other Democratic Senator who faces reelection in 2024 and who beat a Republican incumbent in 2018 is Jacky Rosen. We don't hear much from her. As for Manchin, he's been in the Senate longer — since 2011, after the seat was vacated by the death of the Democrat/Klansman Robert Byrd (a historic filibusterer) — but Manchin too is up for reelection in 2024, and I think McConnell knows he can count on Manchin not to vote against the filibuster. 

108 comments:

320Busdriver said...

I hope Dems now threaten to end the filibuster if not enough R’s vote to convict Trump.

Hunger Games will be cool in real life!

Leland said...

Not that a promise means anything to Democrats or Republicans.

NYC JournoList said...

Why was the Yellin vote 84 to15? The Mnuchin vote was 53 to 47. Republican Senators should reject all nominees until impeachment is blocked.

Wince said...

"We’re glad Senator McConnell threw in the towel and gave up on his ridiculous demand."

Everything is psychological warfare with these people, meant to demoralize their enemies.

What next?

Pelosi flying on a broomstick smoke trailing the words "Surrender Mitch"?

Harsh Pencil said...

This is probably the correct outcome. The filibuster has always been tempered by the threat to eliminate it. Used to require 100% to move on. Then it was used too much so they lowered it to 2/3. Then that was used too much so they lowered it to 60%.

DarkHelmet said...

Oh, sure, you can trust Manchin . . .

If there was ever a political equivalent of Lucy yanking the football away from Charlie Brown, it's Manchin.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

The democrat party is corrupt. They will do anything to shove down their far leftwing agenda. Laws? Rules? Traditions? all can be trashed for the left's corruption.

See: the impeachment as a clear example.

Lucid-Ideas said...

In politics as in physics, every action has an equal and opposite reaction. You can control those forces for the sake of progress, like you would in a rocket, or you can be at their mercy being kicked around by an ever increasing spiral towards an uncivil, vindictive future.

Dems played this game once before with Harry Reid and then screamed bloody murder. Republicans played this game impeaching Bill Clinton. So you tell me, which direction do you think you're heading?

DarkHelmet said...

I would like to note at this point that I am part of the American People and I do not want any 'big bold things' done for me. I want to be left alone.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

"big bold things ' means a pack of democrat insiders get large governmetn contracts and insider wealth making deals while ordinary Americans continue to suffer.

DavidUW said...

McConnell will use his lack of power to stop them from killing the filibuster to cave on legislation he likes anyway (more immigration, more china sucking up, more energy dependence on Putin and Saudi Arabia, massive pork spending). It's all failure theater and he likes it that way.

When Chuckie allows it, he'll pretend to find principles and filibuster something that would make democrats look bad.
The democrats will still scream he's obstructing.

Cacimbo said...

Political theater. Come on - does anyone doubt McConnell voted for Biden. McConnell and Schumer are both deep staters whose only true disagreement is how to divvy up the political spoils.

Mattman26 said...

Threw in the towel ... ridiculous demand. Couldn’t you just say that you’re pleased the two sides have managed to find a way forward? You’ve got to stick the thumb in the eye?

I know calls for civility are bullshit, but isn’t there a case for not constantly turning it up to 11?

MattJ said...

Why the focus on 2024 Democrats? Are no vulnerable ones up in 2022?

Todd said...

I would like to say I am glad that McConnell tried to hold out for a "promise" from Dems but he and we all well know a Dem promise is as good as a wooden nickle.

They will do what ever it takes, say whatever it takes, whenever they want, how ever they want, to get what they want. They have zero honor, zero foresight, and zero integrity. It is 100% about getting and keeping power and control.

No matter what they do, no matter how radical, it becomes the new normal and the position from which all future discussions must begin.

Mattman26 said...

MattJ, I think I read yesterday that the Dems will be defending only 12 seats in 2022, compared to 22 Republican seats. Don’t know which are likely to be gettable by the other side, but those numbers seem daunting. Better chance to flip the House.

stevew said...

The Senate without the filibuster is no different than the House. Two wolves and a sheep voting on what is for lunch.

Tim said...

Tester is the guy who has been elected every time by getting the republican vote split by funding a far right "constitution" candidate to siphon off votes fron the republican. Last election he won by 3% and the far right got 6%. He also said he wanted to "puch Trump in the nose". Perfect Democrat.

Fernandinande said...

President Biden’s agenda

C'mon, man, salute the Marines!

mockturtle said...

None of this really matters any more. The swamp has prevailed and will continue to prevail.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

The far left are behind the far right.

Matt Sablan said...

What a weird way to report "McConnell wins on argument to preserve filibuster, provided Sinema and Manchin keep promise."

Kevin said...

This is probably the correct outcome. The filibuster has always been tempered by the threat to eliminate it. Used to require 100% to move on. Then it was used too much so they lowered it to 2/3. Then that was used too much so they lowered it to 60%.

Then it was used too much so they lowered it to 40%.

#NewsFromTheFuture

Big Mike said...

... and I think McConnell knows he can count on Manchin not to vote against the filibuster.

But can McConnell count on Romney, Collins, or Murkowski?

Mr Wibble said...

But can McConnell count on Romney, Collins, or Murkowski?

In this case, I think so. They may screw over their party on policy issues, or to screw over Trump, but messing with the filibuster doesn't benefit them in the same way. Plus, I think they are more likely to defend it as part of Senate tradition. These dipshits love their traditions, rituals, etc. Whatever makes them more important is good.

pacwest said...

Grenell thinks Rice is running the White House. I have a hard time believing she is that capable. But obviously someone besides Biden is in charge. My question is if Schumer and Pelosi are a part of this or just willing dupes. Harris' VP pick should be informative. If McConnell thinks any procedural fights are going to make a difference he's an idiot and should know better. Those vetted NG troops are there for a reason. The insurrection impeachment has a future use. Winter is going to be a lot darker and longer than anyone thinks. WaPo was prophetic.

pacwest said...

C'mon, man, salute the Marines!

Am I the only one that saw the "Sign it anyways" clip??

I'm Not Sure said...

"I would like to note at this point that I am part of the American People and I do not want any 'big bold things' done for me. I want to be left alone."

I'm pretty sure that's what I want, too.

" 'big bold things' means a pack of democrat insiders get large governmetn contracts and insider wealth making deals while ordinary Americans continue to suffer."

Now I'm definitely sure.

rhhardin said...

Promising falls under gentlemen's rules. The Senate doesn't have those anymore.

Iman said...

He also said he wanted to "puch Trump in the nose". Perfect Democrat.

Better chance of poncing or pooftering him in the nose. Common, garden-variety democrat.

MikeR said...

I'm so old I remember when the Democrats said that the filibuster was sacred.

stevew said...

But can McConnell count on Romney, Collins, or Murkowski?

Like Manchin and Sinema much of the power these three possess comes from the filibuster. If there is no filibuster they are just senators from small states.

Michael K said...

Speaking of "sign nit anyway,"

And at times through the various iterations of outlining remarks, Biden could grow downright ornery.“I would never say this,” Biden once snapped at an aide, aghast over the prepared remarks he was reviewing, according to a person in the room during a speech prep session last year. “Where did you get this from?’” The aide explained that Biden had just said it in a public speech a couple of weeks earlier.

This will get worse quickly. And it is coming from the left.

Roughcoat said...

What happens when a ruling party elected by a slim majority undertakes to enact "big, bold" transformative legislation?

Ask Salvador Allende.

wendybar said...

I never expected that I would live in a Banana Republic, but look at us now.

Levi Starks said...

Communism only really works when you have a true one party rule.
It can’t be bothered with petty negotiations.
It knows what’s best for you.
The sooner.
The better.

Mr Wibble said...

I never expected that I would live in a Banana Republic, but look at us now.

I tried it once. They called mall security to kick me out.

Dave Begley said...

Grind the Senate to the halt? How about the idea that important legislation should have bipartisan support?

Levi Starks said...

Oh, and one more thing,
Resistance is futile.

Mr Wibble said...

This will get worse quickly. And it is coming from the left.

I expect he will be forced out by July. If they can't keep him propped up until 2023, they'll want to give Kamala as much of a term as possible.

Dave Begley said...

Grind the Senate to a halt? How about the idea that important legislation should have bipartisan support?

Lucid-Ideas said...

There's going to come a time again when members of congress will assault each other and senators will pack pistols in the 'sacred' peoples' chamber. It happened before. It will happen again. When this occurs it will be over something with stakes so incredibly high it's analogous to the life or death of the nation, or it will at a point when there's not much worth fighting over. I think it will be the latter, for no other reason than the frog's already boiling.

Nonapod said...

Part of me wonders if the Democrats are maybe a little afraid of having complete control of the agenda. If they're able to pass a bunch of things like repeal of Trump tax cuts, $15 minimum wage and the like during the midst of an economic catastrophe, they couldn't then easily shift the blame onto the Republicans when everything goes to hell. I mean, they'd try to obviously, but it probably wouldn't work.

Big Mike said...

Why the focus on 2024 Democrats? Are no vulnerable ones up in 2022?

@MattJ, I believe that Althouse is looking first at those Democrat senators willing to buck Schumer to retain the filibuster, and secondarily on when they are up for re-election. In 2022 most Democrats up for re-election are in safe states, like Vermont, Illinois, California. The most vulnerable senator up for re-election is thought to be Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire, and then only if popular Governor Sununu runs against her. Warnock in Georgia and Lewis in Arizona will be running for full terms in 2022, and how they fare depends on how popular Biden is, how popular Democrat legislation passed by the House and Senate is in those two reddish-purple states, and whether information leaks out in the interim that their election last November was tainted. Hopefully, in 2022 Lewis will not have the advantage of running against Martha McSally.

Against that, Republican Ron Johnson has to defend his seat in Wisconsin and Portman’s retirement may put Ohio in play.

mockturtle said...

From now on our government and its appendages should be referred to as 'The Party'. Any illusions that we have a choice have been dispelled.

stlcdr said...

If 50% of the American people are represented by 50% of the senate, how is ignoring - overriding - that 50% 'for the American people'? These people are scum.

Lucid-Ideas said...

@Nonapod

"Part of me wonders if the Democrats are maybe a little afraid of having complete control of the agenda. If they're able to pass a bunch of things like repeal of Trump tax cuts, $15 minimum wage and the like during the midst of an economic catastrophe, they couldn't then easily shift the blame onto the Republicans when everything goes to hell. I mean, they'd try to obviously, but it probably wouldn't work."

That kind of thinking would be apt for an earlier period of time. That period of time no longer exists. They and their people will from here on out accept no responsibility...for anything...ever again. They simply do not care and will disagree with any evidence (mountains of evidence) suggesting they're wrong and have a misplaced understanding of cause and effect. The house could be falling down around them (as it already is financially in their blue urban cores), you could show them explicitly why this is happening and where it comes from, and they will blame you for the raging structure fire while trying to explain it was all your fault. I've had these arguments with these people.

They shall not be blamed. It is all your fault. They're taking the kids and heading to moms.

Btw...

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/democratic-party-oregon-blasts-republican-attacks-after-antifa-smashed-its-hq

Greg The Class Traitor said...

"Democrats say they must retain at least the threat"

Wait, Democrats are using threats against Republicans in order to get their way and advance their political agenda?

Isn't that insurrection?

mockturtle said...

This is key, Lucid. They control the media so they are the Ministry of Truth.

donald said...

“Part of me wonders if the Democrats are maybe a little afraid of having complete control of the agenda. If they're able to pass a bunch of things like repeal of Trump tax cuts, $15 minimum wage and the like during the midst of an economic catastrophe, they couldn't then easily shift the blame onto the Republicans when everything goes to hell. I mean, they'd try to obviously, but it probably wouldn't work”.

Nope, isn’t even a consideration.

chuck said...

"Big, bold" comes off as phony enthusiasm. The longer the pom pom waving continues, the more irrelevant it appears.

Michael K said...

The filibuster was sacred when Democrats were using it to stop Republicans from passing anti-lynching bills or they were defending segregation. No need now.

wendybar said...

Mr Wibble said...
I never expected that I would live in a Banana Republic, but look at us now.

I tried it once. They called mall security to kick me out.

1/26/21, 9:10 AM

Now, that's funny!!

Ken B said...

Sinema is one to watch in the next few years.

Browndog said...

and I think McConnell knows he can count on Manchin not to vote against the filibuster.

"and I know McConnell thinks he can count on Manchin not to vote against the filibuster."

...would have been more accurate. Because only McConnell could think Manchin won't vote with the dems like he always does, and only McConnell is too stupid to realize when they ousted Trump it stripped him and all republicans of any power, and the democrats are going to crush their skulls with a big black boot.

Nonapod said...

@Lucid-Ideas: Well, you're certainly correct in terms of the majority of the Democrats, especially the ones that are in deep blue areas who assume they're extremely safe from ever losing their seats. But I'm undertain if that applies to absolutely all of them or not. Some of them may be concerned for 2022 or 2024 or whenever.

Either way, I'm expecting bad things from the Democrats resulting in (most likely) a severe economic disaster, much worse than the Covid recession and the 2008 one. Of course I'm expecting the media to dutifuly blame Republicans for said disaster, which will be absurd but we live in absurd times.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

2022 US Senate races:

Democrats: Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire. Warnock in Georgia and Lewis in Arizona

Hassan won by about 1k votes in 2016. Warnock and Lewis both "won" on "Covid rules".

If the GOP allows those rules to continue into 2022, the GOP will lose, and will deserve to lose

Other than that? anyone in those States who's pissed about anything the the Federal Gov't has done will have one recourse: vote these three out of office.

I expect at least one of those to lose, and thing there's at least a 40% chance that all three will lose in 2022.

Republicans: Ron Johnson in Wisconsin, Portman’s retirement from Ohio, Toomey's retirement in PA

Ohio has been a solid GOP State since 2014 on. With Biden banning fracking it's going to continue to be a solid GOP State

Johnson has the hardest row to hoe, esp with Evers up for re-election in 2022. But even with all the fraudulent "Covid rules", the Dems were only able to steal the State by 20k votes. Expect Johnson to spend the next two years working to keep that from happening in 2022.

I think this one comes down to the popularity of the Biden-Harris* Admin, and the GOP having a good opponent for Evers.

PA is going to have a D governor leaving after 8 years in office, significant unemployment from Biden's rules, and a repeal of the "anyone can vote3 absentee" violation of the Constitution. I expect this to be a GOP hold.

At this time I give better than a 60% chance that the GOP will pick up at least one net Senate seat, absent massive vote fraud.

And I expect that in 2022 the GOP voters will not be willing to tolerate Dem vote fraud, and will act aggressively to stop it.

As in: if a Philly polling precinct won't let poll watchers in, there will be a riot to stop anyone from voting there until the poll watchers are let in

bleh said...

I can't believe Tester and Manchin are in the US Senate. Well, Manchin is conservative enough, I guess.

But Tester? He seems to be way out of line with Montana voters. Why do they vote for him? Why can't the Montana GOP run a good candidate? Tester has been in office since 2007, and he's won three elections.

Doug said...

"Mr. Biden's agenda ...". That's hilarious.

Earnest Prole said...

I think we can all agree our side negotiates in honorable good faith and the other side doesn’t.

DavidUW said...

But Tester? He seems to be way out of line with Montana voters. Why do they vote for him? Why can't the Montana GOP run a good candidate? Tester has been in office since 2007, and he's won three elections.
>>
I've explained this before.

Filthy Irish ruining America since 1848.

Earnest Prole said...

Democratic Sen. Sinema Comes Out Against Ending Filibuster: ‘Not Open to Changing Her Mind’

hombre said...

McConnell cannot count on any Democrat for anything. If they were not conscienceless, they wouldn’t be Democrats. Even worse, we cannot count on the many backstabbing Senate Republicans, including McConnell to block the insane Democrat agenda.

Energy independence is gone. Security of our energy grid from the ChiComs is gone. Womens’ sports and gender specific locker and bathrooms? Gone. Fair elections? Gone. The Republic? Gone.

Readering said...

I think there is a phrase for this: arguing over the shape of the table.

Bob said...

"Democratic Sen. Sinema Comes Out Against Ending Filibuster: ‘Not Open to Changing Her Mind’"

I suppose the longer we have a "proverbial standoff", the more likely we are to get "compromise legislation". Tepid, mediocre rather than "big, bold" plans. More stuff to keep fighting, I mean, posturing over, in future years.

rcocean said...

"McConnell relents" aka gives up. Of course he does. That's all Mitch will do. He'll put up plenty of fake fights over the next 4 years, pretending he's "battling" Schumer. But despite fighting really, really, really, hard - he'll fail. Because Mitch doesn't really want to fight over anything - except what the chamber of commerce wants.

Everything else is Kabuki failure theater. Wonder if the R voters will ever wake up?

rcocean said...

Mitch has never criticized Schumer or Pelosi over these clownish, timewasting impeachments. Why is that? why has he not pointed out that we've never had a POTUS impeached for so little or in such a partisan, frivolous, way. Why doesn't "The master of the Senate traditions" ever point that out?

Simple. Mitch LOVES the impeachments. He hated Trump because Trump spoiled his nice, cozy relationship with the D's. He's running a business, Cash for legislation, and Trump and his voters upset the apple cart.

Yancey Ward said...

They won't vote down the filibuster, everything will go through reconciliation process, even amnesty and court packing.

rcocean said...

trying to figure out Center-right voters is impossible. why would utah vote for Trump and then elect Romney who hates him? why did Alabama vote Trump twice and then elect Doug Jones? Why did WV vote Trump twice, then elect "Fake Moderate" Joe? Who in Nebraska actually likes that Pompous asshole Sasse? Why did Wymoming elect another Trump hating, pelosi loving, Cheney?

I can never figure out if these voters are stupid or just ignorant.

JayDee77 said...

Warnock in GA is up in 2022. I expect this seat to flip back relatively easily.

rcocean said...

Yancy - exactly. Schumer doesn't REALLY want to get rid of the filibuster because it provides him with an excuse to NOT pass legislation that would upset zuckerberg, GOldman sachs, and GOogle. Hey, we tried to give you medicare for all or cut those corporate tax rates but those Damn Republican stopped us with their filibuster!

pacwest said...

I think we can all agree our side negotiates in honorable good faith and the other side doesn’t.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

Yancey Ward said...

"Why the focus on 2024 Democrats? Are no vulnerable ones up in 2022?"

Only one, Hassan from New Hampshire, and only if the governor runs against her. The rest of the seats are very, very safe ones for the Democrats.

rcocean said...

"Warnock in GA is up in 2022. I expect this seat to flip back relatively easily.


I don't expect that at all, unless the R's stop the Democrats in Atlanta from cheating.

rcocean said...

The class of 2022 was previously elected in 2016 and 2010 both Republican years. So, most of the D seats are safe ones. The following could be won by the R's:

Arizona
Colorado (a small chance)
GA (a small chance)
Nevada
NH

Most of the R's are safe too. But Penn, Ohio, wisnc could be hard struggles. Especailly if the R's allow the D's to cheat at the polls again.

rcocean said...

THe shitheads in New England and the Pacific Northwest will keep electing D's no matter what. These anti-American would rather die than vote R, even though they can't even tell you how the D's help them. In real life.

Skippy Tisdale said...

"We’re glad Senator McConnell threw in the towel and gave up on his ridiculous demand. We look forward to organizing the Senate under Democratic control and start getting big, bold things done for the American people."
Said Justin Goodman, a spokesman for Mr. Schumer


"you cannot fool all the people all the time."

gilbar said...

so serious question (actually, a proposal for a betting pool)
HOW LONG, until the democrats remove the filibuster?
next week?
next month?
next year?

One thing is For Sure; when they DO get rid of it: it will be The Republicans Fault!

Yancey Ward said...

Sorry, but the Arizona and Georgia seats are very, very safe going forward. A lot of you think the COVID rules won't apply, but they will- the courts will see to it that no-excuse-required absentee voting with no authentication of the ballots is universal until after the 2024 elections. After 2024, no one will be fighting against it any longer.

Additionally, the Republicans are going to lose the Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina seats, and lose them by healthy margins. They would have lost two of the three in 2016 had it not been Trump on the ballot. Even Rubio is in danger in 2022. Florida has not turned redder since 2012, the only thing different was that Trump was a candidate with a particular appeal to Democrats and Democrat-leaning independents in Florida. With Trump gone, I expect Florida and Ohio to return to their more purplish tinge in statewide races.

JayDee77 said...

"I don't expect that at all, unless the R's stop the Democrats in Atlanta from cheating."

Disagree. Over 300k Trump votes didn't show up and he was running against a terrible candidate. The anti-Trump swell will have long faded. The dumbasses like Lin Wood telling people not to vote because of the cheating wont be a factor. This is a relatively easy pick up.

Yancey Ward said...

Remember- Ohio reelected Sherrod Brown for goodness' sake.

Bilwick said...

"Doing big bold things for the American people" = "big bold increases in State power coupled with big bold cutbacks in individual liberty." (Although if any of you needed this translation, you must be retarded.)

Yancey Ward said...

There will never be a vote removing the right to filibuster from the Senate rules. How the Democrats will get past the hurdle is to simply have the filibuster declared inoperative for more and more different items of legislation. In effect, the filibuster will become a useless tool while remaining in the rule book. As I wrote above, the way this will be done for the most part is to put every single piece of filibustered policy into reconciliation bills. I promise you that Manchin and Sinema will not vote against such a process- both will obey their majority leader and both will claim that they aren't voting against the filibuster, they are voting for the reconciliation process.

As always, pay far less attention to what people say and more to what they do.

Skeptical Voter said...

Ah ridiculous demands! Why it's the currency of Congress. Just look at Pelosi, Schiff and Nadler. Why should McConnell be any different.

As for Senator Tester, he's pulling a Benhamin Dover on the American Public.

Earnest Prole said...

Over 300k Trump votes didn't show up and he was running against a terrible candidate . . . The dumbasses like Lin Wood telling people not to vote because of the cheating . . .

In forty years observing American politics I've never seen a self-own by either party that tops this.

gilbar said...

Even MORE Serious Question

IF a girl can't decide if she prefers women or men
(if she can't decide if she prefers dicks or pussies, that is)
HOW seriously can we take her statement, that she "Not Open To Changing Her Mind"

i mean, Come on man; she can't even make up her mind... You think she can't Change it?

Earnest Prole said...

I promise you that Manchin and Sinema will not vote against such a process- both will obey their majority leader and both will claim that they aren't voting against the filibuster, they are voting for the reconciliation process.

Elections have consequences.

mockturtle said...

Elections have consequences.

Whether they are honest or not.

Lucid-Ideas said...

@Gilbar

"IF a girl can't decide if she prefers women or men
(if she can't decide if she prefers dicks or pussies, that is)
HOW seriously can we take her statement, that she "Not Open To Changing Her Mind"


https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/shock-poll-claims-30-of-u.s-women-under-25-identify-as-lgbt-dire-implications

You can take her statement as seriously as you should take most women regarding what they say vs. what they do. In the coming future, that and your pocket change will get you 1/10 of a starbuck's cup of coffee.

Gahrie said...

Yet another message of unity coming from the moderate and boring Left.

Earnest Prole said...

Elections have consequences. Whether they are honest or not.

Trump to Raffensperger: “Because of what you’ve done to the president a lot of people aren’t going out to vote. And a lot of Republicans are going to vote negative because they hate what you did to the president.”

The perfect wedge issue, deployed against your own side -- If only someone had warned us.

Danno said...

Yancey Ward said...." Florida has not turned redder since 2012, the only thing different was that Trump was a candidate with a particular appeal to Democrats and Democrat-leaning independents in Florida. With Trump gone, I expect Florida and Ohio to return to their more purplish tinge in statewide races."

Florida GOP has registered more GOP voters (like me) than the Dems for the last couple of years and pretty much equalized the registrations.

Danno said...

from the Brian Mudd show-

Late last week the Florida Division of Elections provided the final report for all voter registrations for those who will be eligible to vote in November 3rd's elections.

Here are the takeaways:

Republicans gained ground on Democrats for a sixth consecutive month
Republicans have narrowed the partisan registration gap to the lowest record in state history (since records began to be kept in 1972)
Voters have been more likely to register in a political party compared to past years (NPA’s had been the fastest growing voting block prior to 2020)
There was a 2020 surge in Republican voter registrations in Florida. After Democrats outpaced Republicans in overall registrations early in the year, driven by the Democrat’s Presidential Primary in March, Republicans have once again outpaced Democrats in voter registrations - continuing the long-term Florida trends.

Here’s the change in voter registration by party in Florida compared to four years ago:

DEM: +397,549
GOP: +593,735
NPA/Other: +491,400
Republicans have added 196,186 more voters than Democrats over the past four years (and improved that gap by nearly 50,000 voters in September & October’s registration deadline) The current breakout of registered voters looks like this...

DEM: 36.7%
GOP: 35.8%
NPA/Other: 27.5%
At less than one percent – the advantage for Democrats has never been smaller in Florida since record keeping of partisan registrations began in 1972. While Florida remains a purple state, in which Democrats still hold a slight advantage, movement towards the right not only continued in 2020 – based on voter registrations it accelerated considerably. This information also becomes the benchmark for what good polling samples should reflect in Florida. President Trump won Florida by 1.2% four years ago. When Democrats had a 2.5% advantage in voter registration. With a voter registration swing of 1.6% in favor of Republicans – this reason for team Trump and Republicans down ballot to feel optimistic about Florida.





n.n said...

"Mr. Biden's agenda ...".

Pro-war, social justice, social progress, diversity, abortion, outsourcing/insourcing, [catastrophic] [anthropogenic] immigration reform, climate change prophecy, transgender spectrum is trendy, cancellation, reeducation, and reestablishing the old axis of alliances. Witch hunts, warlock trials, JournoListic braying, and protests, in progress.

Francisco D said...

Ken B said...Sinema is one to watch in the next few years.

Easily the hottest woman in the Senate.

Unknown said...

McConnell is and has always been a coward.

Howard said...

Mcconnell got you people all up in the federal bench. You Trumpers are fair weather friends.

n.n said...

The hunts, judgments, braying, and protests will continue until you kneel.

Michael K said...

Sorry, but the Arizona and Georgia seats are very, very safe going forward.

The Soros supported Sec State in AZ called Republicans Nazis before the election. Soros has spent his money wisely although, for the life of me, I can't understand why he is doing it. If I believed in the Devil it would make more sense.

Gusty Winds said...

Michael K said... If I believed in the Devil it would make more sense.

Strange. The more I see our country and the world become engulfed in this biblical level evil, my faith in Jesus Christ is strengthened.

Hopefully on Judgement Day they will review my comments on the Althouse blog to I can get in quickly.

Howard said...

The world is actually evolving out of Biblical level evil, Nancy Ward. It's hard for people like you to see how great things are if you have become pussified by social media demagogue soap opera hysteria.

Earnest Prole said...

The Republic? Gone.

I don't mean to be offensive but victim talk makes you sound like a punk-ass bitch.

Iman said...

Blogger Readering said...
I think there is a phrase for this: arguing over the shape of the table


McYertle vs. Vietcong!

I guess the last 4 years were teh Twit Offensive.

Lurker21 said...

Schumer must be going crazy now. Half of him wants to gut the filibuster and put the agenda through. The other half wants to keep it to please the donors. Does he need to worry, though? When don't the donors get their way?

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why would utah vote for Trump and then elect Romney who hates him? why did Alabama vote Trump twice and then elect Doug Jones? Why did WV vote Trump twice, then elect "Fake Moderate" Joe? Who in Nebraska actually likes that Pompous asshole Sasse? Why did Wymoming elect another Trump hating, pelosi loving, Cheney?

Doug Jones won (very narrowly) because voters thought Roy Moore was a nut. Romney won because he was a prominent Mormon. He fits the culture, more or less. When he ran he wasn't that anti-Trump (and when Trump ran the first time Utah wasn't that pro-Trump). West Virginia is like the Dakotas were years ago. They voted GOP for president but kept sending Democrats to Congress because they brought home the bacon. For some reason, people get drawn to familiar names. That explains Cheney. Ben Sasse was a typical pre-Trump Republican. He and Cheney may be gone next time.

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If bisexuals are independent thinkers, maybe we need more of them in Congress. As with Katie Hill, they will at least give us new diversity in the sexual scandals.

Hercules, not that one though said...

When Americans 'locked down' and started wearing masks ordered by the State...that was pretty much the end of this freedom, self governing thing we thought we had.

Lurker21 said...

Easily the hottest woman in the Senate.

Not really saying much.

Hercules, not that one though said...

When Americans 'locked down' and started wearing masks ordered by the State...that was pretty much the end of this freedom, self governing thing we thought we had.

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