There are places where he clearly talked about a peaceful protest march. He says: "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard." And: "So we’re going to, we’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue... So let’s walk down Pennsylvania Avenue."
But here are the 7 most violent statements. Please, if you can find anything more violent or more related to the idea of breaking into the Capitol and physically disrupting the proceedings, let me know, and I'll add it to the list. This is what I've found and have put in order from least to most violent:
7. We’re going walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators, and congressmen and women. We’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong.
6. To use a favorite term that all of you people really came up with, we will stop the steal…. We will not let them silence your voices.
5. The Republicans have to get tougher. You’re not going to have a Republican party if you don’t get tougher.
4. [W]e’re going to have somebody in there that should not be in there and our country will be destroyed, and we’re not going to stand for that.
3. We will never give up. We will never concede, it doesn’t happen. You don’t concede when there’s theft involved.
2. We’re not going to let it happen. Not going to let it happen.
1. Together we are determined to defend and preserve government of the people, by the people and for the people.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 214 of 214I don’t know how to square all that with the idea that all Trump had in mind was politely, fecklessly holding up signs and keeping all this in mind when choosing which candidates to support in future elections.
Yes, for some strange reason Trump or his speechwriters rejected "I call on you to politely, fecklessly hold up signs" and instead said "be strong" and "peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."
As I said, he called on them to then watch carefully for whether our leaders display courage and never forget if they do not. "Never forget" could well mean drawing on this memory to motivate working hard for their side in the next election, not simply "keeping all this in mind when deciding which candidates to support." "Be strong," a common phrase for those facing disappointment and adversity, could well mean not getting discouraged and continuing to speak out and work for what you believe in.
"Trump wrote a strangely calm and positive message to them.”
President Trump: Go home now. We have to have peace."
It is a message about peace, of course it sounds strange to people whose plan is "No Peace"
"is there any reason why they *wouldn't* have committed fraud to keep that from happening and to save the Republic?"
And don't forget that their slogan has always been BAMN, By Any Means Necessary
Iman said...
My Word of the Day: CORKSOAKERS
And in the clothing factory next door to the winery we meet the socktuckers
Donald Trump said the word "fight" 20 times during that speech and "peace" once.
Rhetoric lies not in the flat literal sequence of words, but the effect it has on its audience.
So...John Cohen has Meade's user name now?
There is no incitement here. Lots of lies, lots of bad legal theory, lots of bogus economics, lots of disrespect for the Supreme Court, lots of hatred for the Republican party. If I didn't know better I would say he used to be Democrat (oh...wait). I think he wanted to make his supporters angry, but I don't see any advocacy of violence.
What a funny name for a political party - the Democratic Party. It's the least democratic of any party in the US, under tight central control. They routinely cheat at elections - look at what they did to Sanders in Iowa, that was a dry run for what they did to Trump. Even on the state level they cheat and sabotage to retain control. Four years ago, when an LGBT woman ran for state office whom they did not approve, they drafted a Republican to run against her in the primary, and she lost. They likewise sabotaged the races of two other people whom the Kansas Central Committee did not approve. As a political party, they suck, they should be obliterated, because there's no way to reform them.
I found this article after doing some searches for the transcript that "incited" the looting of the Capital after a Texas Rep said on TV that Trump incited the violence. I browsed through the transcript elsewhere and could not find evidence (in my mind) and I don't think you found evidence either. How people interpret is the problem. Should we bring charges on a sports team that wins a championship after a celebration turns into property damage? Should we bring charges against those who arrange the civil protests when violence results? I don't know how a body of around 50% lawyers (Congress) can impeach a President with evidence that starts with a transcript and is interpreted by thousands/millions and now it seems that interpretation off of the social-sphere is where our Congress get's its information. The 2 primary party system will be the undoing of this country....
I can only thank this author for being brave enough to use qanon special decoding ability to help me see the incitement. If the author was there to translate to the people during this speech, well we might have seen an actual insurrection. What utter childish nonsense. Pathological smear campaign tactics 101
Please add to your list: "You'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong," Trump said during his speech. "We fight like hell, and if you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore."
I have read the whole transcript and listened to most of it. Trump attacked the justice department (Barr), he attacked supreme court and lower courts, he attacked republican governor in Georgia along with= the states republican in charge of the election he also defended his improper phone call that was recorded. He then attacked republican congress men and women that were following our democratic processes of counting the electoral votes and Pence is encouraged to violate his constitutional duty to accept the count. He was aware of his incitement in Michigan as are we all. He had advertised right up to Jan. 5th that stop the steal and show up it will be wild. There were a number of speeches from his son, Giuliani and someone else all of which were designed to tune up the crowd with a move to actions. Since they were part of his rally then they become part of his message which he thanked them in his speech. Pulling out these phrases one through seven are all out of context. To use this as an analysis without the lies and attacks misses the whole tone of the speech as does refusing to take into account the previous speeches that day. There is an investigation into why the riot happen as so many knew it was possible, it becomes an insult to Trump to even think he did not know. The usefulness of this analysis may work in a trial situation but not in an impeachment nor as a shield to his guilt. If people actually read the Mueller report they would see Trump was not in fact found innocent. It was not Mueller's job to indict a sitting president.So read the whole thing ,read or listen to the earlier speeches and then look at what happened. Look at what happened and tell me how it happened without Trump. If you look at a cylinder from the side it looks like a rectangle from the end a ball or circle but from a distance and angle one can see it's true form. Perspective is important and moving around gives you and more complete view of things.
I have read the whole transcript and listened to most of it. Trump attacked the justice department (Barr), he attacked supreme court and lower courts, he attacked republican governor in Georgia along with= the states republican in charge of the election he also defended his improper phone call that was recorded. He then attacked republican congress men and women that were following our democratic processes of counting the electoral votes and Pence is encouraged to violate his constitutional duty to accept the count. He was aware of his incitement in Michigan as are we all. He had advertised right up to Jan. 5th that stop the steal and show up it will be wild. There were a number of speeches from his son, Giuliani and someone else all of which were designed to tune up the crowd with a move to actions. Since they were part of his rally then they become part of his message which he thanked them in his speech. Pulling out these phrases one through seven are all out of context. To use this as an analysis without the lies and attacks misses the whole tone of the speech as does refusing to take into account the previous speeches that day. There is an investigation into why the riot happen as so many knew it was possible, it becomes an insult to Trump to even think he did not know. A cylinder is a tricky object, when seen from the side it seen as a rectangle, from the end a circle. you have to move around it to view it to see it's true form. You can also understand it through it's function or movements, what it does. Same holds true for Trump and what happen on Jan. 6th.
Meh... None of those lines are "acts of violence." There is this concept called freedom of speech. Grow up and deal with it. This author is just spreading the political narrative. Try some real journalism on the topic:
https://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2021/01/26/how-the-washington-administration-responded-to-an-insurrection/
https://www.fff.org/2021/01/20/milking-the-capitol-melee-for-all-its-worth/
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/01/rush_to_judgment_on_trump_multiple_leftists_arrested_for_capitol_riot.html
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