January 30, 2021

At the Ice Fish Café...

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... good for you, getting out there on the ice the way you did. Tell us about your adventures on real or metaphorical ice. Are you well-defended against the snows that are descending upon us tonight — real or metaphorical? What sounds are your housemates inflicting on your erstwhile quiet evening? I'm being subjected to the Joan Baez version of "The House of the Rising Sun." Is that fair?

Another version of ice fishing below...
@zachking

Gone #Fishing 🎣

♬ original sound - Zach King

167 comments:

Oso Negro said...

Joan Baez! Totally fair for you. That Meade!

Rabel said...

You've got to really, really like Baez to stay awake for the whole thing.

Flat Tire said...

I'm watching a ewe, first time mother, who will hopefully lamb this evening. I haven't been in this position for 45 years and fear my midwifery skills are rusty. Hope it all goes smoothly. Sorry about Joan Baez.

Meade said...

Yes it is fair. Fritz recommended it and I thought it was quite excellent. Besides... all the TickTock crap you subject me to? More than fair.

Mark said...

Who killed the unarmed Ashli Babbitt?

Reveal his name.

Crimso said...

Did I mention that Boston drivers suck?

rhhardin said...

Joan Baez, Judy Collins, Joni Mitchell were great. I liked their minimal or zero use of vibrato.

I played lute once with Joan Baez in a college snack bar.

There was a girl there who sang as well, folk singing wise, as Joan Baez, but don't know what happened to her. Janet Smith. You can't track that name down.

Meade said...

Re ice fishing guy: yeah that's funny but then all I could hear is my dear old dad 60 years ago saying, "Son, is that how we treat our tools?" and no that wasn't a tear... maybe a little ice splashed up in my eye, next time I'll wear safety goggles.

Mark said...

I noted this below, but Joe Biden's CDC, in a power grab and exercise of police state authoritarianism, has issued a mandatory ORDER (not merely a guidance) to control the behavior and conduct of private citizens.
https://cdc.gov/quarantine/masks/mask-travel-guidance.html

So much for state/local democratic self-governance. Here we see the authority of the Joe Biden police state -- enforced by the military occupation of the nation's capital against especially those who would seek to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

You would be right to wonder how the CDC, a medical research agency, has the power to ORDER anything, especially to order personal behavior, as opposed to directing other federal agencies. It doesn't. But actually, an unelected federal bureaucrat does. In fact, under 42 U.S. Code 264, the statute CDC cites, the Surgeon General has authority to make ANY regulations he thinks "necessary," that is, he has ABSOLUTE POWER, in a health emergency.
https://law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/264

#JoeBidensAmerica

Meade said...

"I played lute once with Joan Baez in a college snack bar."

And here I thought I knew everything worth knowing about you, rh. Deep humble bow to your awesomeness.

Mark said...

The CDC dictate extends to every inch of the United States no matter how remote or unaffected by COVID. Middle of Nowhere, Montana, is now under federal control.

WK said...

"I played lute once with Joan Baez in a college snack bar."

Who won?

Josephbleau said...

" and no that wasn't a tear... maybe a little ice splashed up in my eye, next time I'll wear safety goggles."

As Willie said, Hello Window...Is that a teardrop in the corner of your pane, don't you try to tell me that it's rain.

Big Mike said...

Are you well-defended against the snows that are descending upon us tonight — real or metaphorical?

I think I’m ready for real snow. There’s a 6” - 8” snowfall supposed to start falling here in the Shenandoah Valley in the early morning hours tonight. Full tank of gas in the snow blower, shovels all set, and a nearly full bag of salt.

Metaphorically, who knows. It’s been a strange first ten days. Glenn Greenwald asks:

Question: If you were the head of a Wall St. hedge fund at the center of a tumultuous financial scandal, and you just paid the Treasury Secretary $800k over the prior 2 years for a few banal speeches, would you regard that as:

- a good investment
- a bad investment
- neutral?


He answers his own question by calling it “stupendously excellent.” And most people would agree, I think. Does the GameStop short squeeze episode herald an administration which doesn’t plan to make even the slightest effort at even the smallest pretense of honesty? Could be a long four years.

Meade said...

Dad loved Willie and all things Grand Ole Opry.

Jersey Fled said...

the Surgeon General has authority to make ANY regulations he thinks "necessary," that is, he has ABSOLUTE POWER, in a health emergency.

And we have the absolute power to tell him to F off. Don't ever forget that.

Big Mike said...

@Meade, say hello to the walls

Mike of Snoqualmie said...

Joe Biden and his criminal accomplices want to deprive Americans of the right to bear arms. Would it be appropriate to use US 18 Section 242, "Deprivation of Rights under the color of law" to go after them before they can attempt such an imparement? I'm tired of Democrat politicians telling us that gun control is for our own good when it's really a means to subjugate the populace so we won't contest the rule of our new masters.

Mark said...

Just so you know, the CDC also claimed the power to enforce its dictate by criminal penalties.

Yancey Ward said...

I searched your Janet Smith, rhhardin- she can be found (just add folk singer to the search), and is apparently still alive- about the same age as Joan Baez.

Mike of Snoqualmie said...

Joe "Malvolio" Biden doesn't know the meaning of the word "honest." He's been grifting for his entire "public service" life.

gspencer said...

Ice fishing is an excuse to do ice drinking.

tim in vermont said...

Citron Research, which was forced to close out its short position in GameStop amid a frenzy in retail buying, said Friday it will no longer publish short reports and instead will focus on long positions.

“After 20 years of publishing Citron will no longer publish ‘short reports’,” the firm said in a tweet. “We will focus on giving long side multibagger opportunities for individual investors.”
. - CNBC

The real problem of social media for these guys isn’t the randomness and fickleness of the retail buyers, the real problem is that the “hive mind” can come across some interesting things and exploit them, like multi billion dollar hedge funds leaving huge piles of money on the table that could be taken from them like candy from a baby with the right strategies, which the hive mind discovered.

Shorts are fine, I guess, as long as it’s the other guy suffering, not well connected to the Biden administration hedge funds!

Lucien said...

Here in western KY, the snow makes the cardinals look even more striking. Meade’s avatar would be delighted.

rcocean said...

Joan Baez and the Rising sun. Lasted about 30 seconds. Baez seems pretty good at covering some of Dylan's songs like "Its a hard rain going to fall" or "Blowing in the wind" but otherwise she has that high-pitched "trilly" voice that leaves me cold. She was also a horse faced Commie, which doesn't add to the allure.

Right now I'm listening to a Duet song "Back to earth" by Willie Nelson and some country chick singer. I like the song, but no one else does. I guess its just me and Willie on this one.

Rabel said...

"While this Order may be enforced and CDC reserves the right to enforce through criminal penalties, CDC does not intend to rely primarily on these criminal penalties but instead strongly encourages and anticipates widespread voluntary compliance..."

I'll bet they do.

I see a stocky, muscular guy wearing a brown leather jacket reading that with a German accent.

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Yancey Ward said...

Rehajm,

Great story!

rehajm said...

Ice fish story:

So on mother's day several years ago we took the canoes out at the fish club because the trout were hungry. I wasn't prepared so the uncle let us borrow his fly rods. It was windy and a handful to fish and handle the canoe. Of course, the spouse hooks up and is screaming and won't haul the fish in so I'm maneuvering the canoe and working the net and working the hysterical spouse. I had set my rod down and had my back turned for a few seconds and- you see it coming- I get hooked up, the trout moves away from the drifting canoe and pulls the rod over the side. We watch in horror as it sinks while the canoe sails farther and farther away. I contemplate the consequences vs a fully clothed dive into the icy Spring water.

Based on the grief and economic toll I took from losing rod I should have sunk to the bottom with the rod...

There was much trolling with fish stringers. Contemplation of hiring Dartmouth scuba club. 'Experts' believed recovery was futile. A hooked fish would drag the lost rod everywhere.

The spouse went on Amazon (this was before the war) and sent the uncle a powerful magnet, guaranteed to retrieve lost jetsam with its powerful pull.

It didn't work...but here's where the ice fishing comes in...

Flash forward a few seasons and the uncle is out on the ice auguring holes for perch and as any ice fisherman know on occasion the auger gets away from its mittened operator. Down the hole it goes. Much sadness...

But wait! Grumpy uncle with an idea! Turns out powerful magnet is great for retrieving stray ice hole makers! Hooray magnet!!! Going on five ice auger saves now...

The End

Epilogue: Years later, grumpy uncle arrives at fish club to find his favorite fly rod propped up on the porch- cork rotted, eyelets rusted but blank intact. A snag recovered by a fellow angler.

The nephew with nothing to show- not the disturbingly expensive replacement he paid for or the rotted original. Only the tale.

tim in vermont said...

If a few thousand retail investors pool their meagre resources into game changing money using social media, that’s bad, but if a hedge fund manage puts a billion dollars to work in the same kind of unified action of money, that’s good! Because the hedge fund manager is going to be sure that Yellen gets her million dollar “speaking fees.” Yellen, and God only knows how many other administration officials.

I simply don’t get it. And here we have Liz Warren coming in on the side of the billionaires agains the small investors. Who would have thunk it? Well only the people like most of the readers of these threads who already knew that Warren was an opportunistic leech, from the time she wrote down on her college application that she was part Indian.

rcocean said...

I've been discovering Miles Davis and found a lot of song I Like. As for example:

1) Soundtrack to the Joe Johnston movie
2) I Could write a book
3) Round Midnight
4) walkin'
5) Summertime
6) springville
7) Bags' Groove
8) I could write a book
9) Freddie Freeloader

And then I stumbled onto some guy called Chet Baker. wow, great rendition of "Funny valentine" and "almost blue". The problem with baker was finding stuff where he didn't sing.

rcocean said...

MY attitude is always when the rivers freeze over, go South. Or go to hawaii.

tim in vermont said...

"but otherwise she has that high-pitched "trilly" voice that leaves me cold. She was also a horse faced Commie, “

Nailed it.

I actually like a couple of her songs where she brings her voice under control, like she’s not powering a dentist’s drill with it, like on Diamonds and Rust, but even on that album, there are a couple of songs I hit skip within a second of them starting.

rehajm said...

Sorry I'm on my phone...

JZ said...

Ugh. The folk scare returns. To be honest, I went through a Joan Baez phase, and I appreciate her voice. Problem for me is she makes me think of those depressing folkies like Buffy Saint Marie. Ian and Sylvia, anyone?

stephen cooper said...

In case anybody cares, I just left a comment on last night's thread about easily obtainable analysis of election fraud in Pennsylvania.

wild chicken said...

I like Baez singing Night They Drove Old Dixie Down..but that was a great song anyway.

stephen cooper said...

Paul McCartney said that the best female singer of the 20th century was Karen Carpenter.

Joe Smith said...

"Dad loved Willie and all things Grand Ole Opry."

Willie's Roadhouse is the best channel on SiriusXM.

Old-school country.

rehajm said...

The lute? I would not have pegged rhhardin as a greensleeves man...

DAN said...
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Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Heather Henning and Bret Weinstein are live podcasting via YouTube

Original Mike said...

"What sounds are your housemates inflicting on your erstwhile quiet evening? I'm being subjected to the Joan Baez version of "The House of the Rising Sun." Is that fair?"

Hey, he's gotta listen to Dylan.

rehajm said...

Ice Story 2:

I enjoy a bourbon or a Glenfarclas with a little ice. I've always wanted one of those under-counter machines that gives you the big cubes at home. Well next opportunity I go for it. Unfortunately nobody told me they were shyte to take care of, loud all hours, and temperamental as all hell. Still, hoping to reap the rewards I invest in it's care like a good gun dog.

Bad ROI it is. Next house I use the trays...

Mark said...

Joan Baez's Christmas album, Noel, is sublime.

She is also quite good in the anti-communist song "Many Crimes of Cain" featured in the film "To Kill a Priest," which was inspired by the real life 1984 murder/assassination of Father Jerzy Popiełuszko by the state police in communist Poland when it was under martial law at the time of the rise of the Solidarity movement.
https://youtu.be/EbQec0BKA3w

rcocean said...

"I like Baez singing Night They Drove Old Dixie Down..but that was a great song anyway."

Yep. Just listened to it. Thanks Youtube! She's good in that one.

"In case anybody cares, I just left a comment on last night's thread about easily obtainable analysis of election fraud in Pennsylvania."

In my case, you're preaching to the choir. It was proved six ways to sunday that the election in Pennsylvania was stolen. But the D Governor, the S of S, and Pennsylvania Supreme Court were in on the fix. As shown by his vote on the trial, Toomey has been bought off or is some crazed TRump hater. The most telling stat to me was that Trump won 2-1 on election among real live voters. and Biden won 2-1 on mail-in votes. which may or may not have been real people and valid voters.

rhhardin said...

Janet Smith, good find. Here's my picture of her (dark folk singing room)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/rhhardin/8577919277/in/album-72157633024709629/

and google's picture matching

https://www.discogs.com/artist/756575-Janet-Smith

She played guitar and autoharp, and maybe other stuff too.

rhhardin said...

Hey and here's me with a lute
https://www.flickr.com/photos/rhhardin/20461763491/in/album-72157633024709629/

I look awfully young.

320Busdriver said...

With another flip of his pen King Biden, like the other D Presidents, rescinded the Mexico City rule, which means we will again be sending our tax dollars to foreign ngo’s who may use those dollars to promote or perform abortions. This despite polls which show that no group of Americans, including Democrats, support such a policy.

320Busdriver said...

I agree about Karen Carpenter.

Narr said...

A real snow, as in the days of my youth, would be great for a change. Cold, wet rain is what we get now; back in the day, we could count on a few snowdays every few years, with neighborhoods full of sledding and playing kids. Our son (b.1986) probably got only 20-25% of the weather we did, which isn't much.

Baez has her moments, already listed, but a little goes a long way.

I devoted some real attention to Gounod's "Faust" on the radio this afternoon, a Met repeat from 2011. (The only singer whose name I recognized was Rene Pape.) Over time, I've come to appreciate French 'classical' music more, even the opera.

Narr
THAT Janet Smith? No!

Mark said...

A Message for President Biden: The Unified Voices of Africa
https://youtu.be/zymBhgUqoh4

Short version: “We don’t want abortion in Africa! We never have and we never will!"

Ken B said...

I got attacked here for dissing Joan Baez, so I certainly think it’s not remotely fair. If it escalates to Joanie Mitchell ...

Ken B said...

Nothing is as cold and icey as the heart of a man who would play Joanie Mitchell.

Ken B said...

Hardin
Ever play any Kapsberger?

Joe Smith said...

"With another flip of his pen King Biden, like the other D Presidents, rescinded the Mexico City rule, which means we will again be sending our tax dollars to foreign ngo’s who may use those dollars to promote or perform abortions."

But he's such a devout Catholic.

Why priests still give him (and Pelosi) communion is beyond me...

Lucien said...

You can keep your Karen Carpenter, and I’ll go with Ella Fitzgerald, with Amalia Rodriguez, Maria Callas, Edith Piaf, Beverly Sills, and Billie Holiday in my back pockets.

Rory said...

"Gounod's "Faust""

The Met's free streaming is in "Antihero Week." Rigoletto, set in Las Vegas, tonight and tomorrow. MacBeth tomorrow night and Monday.

Ken B said...

I used to hate Ethel Merman. Until I heard other singers in her big roles. Then I gained a lot of respect for old Ethel. Cannot say I got to like her.

rhhardin said...

I played mostly Dowland and contemporaries.

stevew said...

Hey, Crimso, go back to where you came from. :-)

5-6 hours of woodwork today. Listened to Pandora Caribou radio on my bluetooth hearing protection headphones the whole time. It's not for everyone but is great background music while making finished shapes out of larger pieces of wood. Mrs. stevew continues to unpack boxes. We packed all this shite up eight months or so ago, there's a surprise in every box.

Sorry to say I am not a fan of Joan Baez, Joanie Mitchell or any of the other such artists from that time period. Born in 1957 I'm just a little too young, I guess.

walter said...

I considered going ice fishing.
It's just far more convenient to make in my freezer.

Ken B said...

Hardin
Cool. Dowland is wonderful.

Josephbleau said...

"A real snow, as in the days of my youth"

Things were different in my youth. I was in touch with nature even though I grew up on a Texas AFB in enlisted housing, chasing horny toads and turtles. We moved to Malmstrom in Montana and I did things like put bullfrog tadpoles under water in paper cups in the basement and watched them grow legs and arms. I also panned gold from local streams.

I got taught to play piano, which taught me chords up to the minor 7th. But the best times were in taking the top off the 48 crayon box and catching bees on clover. we would save a piece of celophane for the top and knew we needed to put holes in it so they could breathe.

My Dad would take me out to the flight line at Malmstrom when I was 10 y and all the bomber pilots would badger me and ask me when I was signing up, they said they needed crew.



rcocean said...

If we're going to talk chick singers. I'll go with:

Doris Day
Peggy Lee
ella fitzgerald
Piaf
Judy Garland.

You have others, like Whitney Huston, Adele, Vaughn, Billy Holiday, Cline, Deana Durbin, etc. who were great singers but they didn't have a great catalog of songs -that I like.

Streisand has a good voice, but her repulsive egotism gets in the way. Every song is not 'Such and such song by Streisand". Instead its "Barbara Streisand SINGS so and so". She never lets you forget for a second its STREISAND SINGING - and don't you forget it, bub!

Narr said...

The fortification and open-ended occupation of DC began IMHO as a panicky overreaction to a Neo-Yippie Happening. To foreclose any real investigation of the incompetence and chaos, a mythical hydra of radical deplorables has been conjured up and made the focus of attention.

But what had been expedient is now policy, and it hints to me that as legitimately spooked as the DC Swampies are, they may also know some things we don't about . . . future headlines.
They don't want to be surprised again, so they are hunkering down behind soldiers they don't trust.

Narr
Like chickenshit elites since Ur of the Chaldees

Original Mike said...

Blogger Narr said..."A real snow, as in the days of my youth"

You must have moved, because it sure hasn't stopped snowing.

rhhardin said...

I was sucked in by an LP in the 50s, Julian Bream Plays Dowland.

walter said...

Outdoing herself in terms of projection, Pelousy proclaims "the enemy is within the House"

Ken B said...

I own that LP, well, I own the CD!
I also have a complete recording of all of Dowland and several recordings of the lute music.

Ken B said...

Lute >> guitar

Sorry, it just is. It’s like Macs and PCs.

Ann Althouse said...

“ Hey, he's gotta listen to Dylan.”

You do not know Meade! He’s much more of a Dylan fan than I am.

And let me say that I hate the Baez version of The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down.

Ken B said...

Walter
Yes, she is wildly irresponsible. I think she is trying to provoke violence.

Meade said...

rhhardin turned us all on to Tiffany Eckhardt about, oh, wow maybe 15 years ago. Maybe not everyone's cup of lemon balm tea but she sure hit me the right way back then when I was going through divorce. And she does still.

Tiffany Eckhardt and Dave Steel

Original Mike said...

"You do not know Meade! He’s much more of a Dylan fan than I am."

He says he is. Maybe he just loves you.

Temujin said...

I can stand a lot of things in this life, but two things I cannot stand are Joan Baez and well...anything related to Joan Baez. My wife and I have long had a pact- I don't play King Crimson within earshot of her and she doesn't play Joan Baez anywhere, any time, if she still loves me. So there's always that possibility that Joan Baez will someday be my 'I'm leaving letter'. But I digress.

Seriously- there's a version of "House of the Rising Sun" by Joan Baez? Please tell me you're joking. It's too horrible to consider.
Even in the early days of watching Woodstock, when Joan came on to sing Joe Hill, it was like ipecac to me. Don't know what it is, but to me she's the Pat Boone of female folksy singers. Only with less soul and feeling- if that's possible.

Great TikTok, however.

J. Farmer said...

(1) Tell us about your adventures on real or metaphorical ice.

Next month will be the 30th anniversary of the first time I saw snow in real life. I was just shy of my 9th birthday and was visiting New York City for the first time. My father had been hired to move a boat from Port Manatee to New York Harbor. Him, my mother, two uncles, and my uncle's then girlfriend were the motley crew of the Island Adventure. When my father later edited all the camcorder footage together, he titled it Island (Mis)Adventure. One of my all-time great childhood memories.

(2)What sounds are your housemates inflicting on your erstwhile quiet evening?

The album Careless Love by Madeline Peyroux. "Between the Bars" by Elliot Smith is one of my favorite songs, and her cover is outstanding.

(3) I'm being subjected to the Joan Baez version of "The House of the Rising Sun." Is that fair?

No. Give the Nina Simone version a shot. I don't have any particular issue with Joan Baez, but her music always reminds of the infamous scene from Animal House with John Belushi. Also makes me think, "Whatever happened to Melanie Safka?"

(4) Paul McCartney said that the best female singer of the 20th century was Karen Carpenter.

Karen Carpenter did have an extraordinary voice. She could sing the sappiest, most maudlin lyrics in a way that still felt totally intimate. The singer who most reminded me of Karen Carpenter's style was Eva Cassidy. I would also put one of my all time favorite female singers, Patsy Cline, in that echelon. Among living singers, I would probably say K.D. Lang is the closest we have to Karen Carpenter.

However, with all due respect to Sir Paul, I think the title of "best female singer of the 20th century" probably belongs to Ella Fitzgerald.

stephen cooper said...

Lucien - if you are an Ella Fitzgerald fan (I am one too), WAMU currently has up a free internet accessible 3 hour replay of Rob Bamberger's Jan. 9 Hot Jazz Saturday night show about her first 15 years of recordings and broadcasts . For copyright reasons, those do not stay up long, so listen soon (Ella in her 20s was spectacular!)

Meade said...

"He says he is. Maybe he just loves you. "

Shhh... do NOT look in Schrödinger's record album collection.

dustbunny said...

Subjected is the perfect description

Ken B said...

“ And let me say that I hate the Baez version of The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down.”

BRAVO

Temujin said...

J. Farmer: "However, with all due respect to Sir Paul, I think the title of "best female singer of the 20th century" probably belongs to Ella Fitzgerald."

Yes.
Or Sarah Vaughn.

Iman said...

Baez with a “trilly” voice? You’re too generous. I’d call it a voice with a ululating vibrato. Meh.

Having said that, her rendition of Joe Hill at Woodstock was wonderful.

I dreamed I saw Slow Joe last night
Alive as you and me.
Says I "But Joe, your brain is dead"
"It didn’t die” said he,…
“You pony-faced dog” said he...

rcocean said...

"Yes, she is wildly irresponsible. I think she is trying to provoke violence."

That's what happens when you post about your Love of Bob Dylan 500 times.

Joe Smith said...

"And let me say that I hate the Baez version of The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down."

Agree...there is no passion...she's just mouthing the words.

Ken B said...

Ella would have been be a good singer if she could sing, but she couldn’t, so she wasn’t. She could pour personality into a song, which is important, but not everything. So could Jimmy Durante. B grade.

The Godfather said...

It would be hard to imagine two singers more different than Baez and Dylan. But both are (in my opinion) great, and Baez even recorded some of Dylan's songs, so you can have both at the same time (I don't remember for sure, but I think they recorded some duets). I wonder what leads some people to think that, to prove what excellent taste they have, it's necessary not only to praise their favorite performer, writer, composer, etc., but also to denigrate someone else.

Clark said...

Adventures on ice:

High school days, living in the Upper Peninsula, February, minus 20 F. Driving out to the NW shore of the Keweenah Peninsula at midnight, snowshoeing out onto the ice about 1/4 mile or so, under the full moon. The key is to dress warm. Layers topped with down pants and down parkas, felt-lined boots, hats, masks, scarves, serious gloves, no exposed skin. There is no describing how serene and beautiful this was.

Michael K said...

Black Lives Matter has now been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize. Not Trump but our new masters.

Gilbert Pinfold said...

From my time in Madison: Ice fishing—a jerk with a line waiting for a jerk at the other end.

Anonymous said...

How does House of the Rising Sun work with a female singer? Is she a lesbian? Are these gigolos? I'm confused.

narciso said...


But enough of the heroin fix

https://amgreatness.com/2021/01/28/the-nature-of-the-chinese-threat/

Mark said...

How could Baez, a woman, sing it?

Wikipedia -
"House of Rising Sun" was said to have been known by miners in 1905.[6] The oldest published version of the lyrics is that printed by Robert Winslow Gordon in 1925, in a column "Old Songs That Men Have Sung" in Adventure magazine.[9] The lyrics of that version begin:[9][10]

There is a house in New Orleans, it's called the Rising Sun
It's been the ruin of many poor girl
Great God, and I for one.

Iman said...

In ‘75, I was take to a small basement, tied to a chair and forced to listen to Joan Baez’s “Diamonds and Rust” until I broke and gave up my partners... I think I lasted 27 hours...

FullMoon said...

Snowed in San Francisco

Yancey Ward said...

My favorite Streisand performance.

The counter says this video has been viewed 14 million times. At least a hundred of them are by myself.

Tomcc said...

I love this one: a mature Marianne Faithful singing "As Tears Go By" with a video montage from the 60's.
https://youtu.be/S7oTqILoLns

Tomcc said...

Someday I will learn to create a clickable link in the comments. Today is not that day.

Mark said...

A music reviewer listens to Animals, House of the Rising Sun, for the very first time:

https://youtu.be/GT5HlXmvghM

Yancey Ward said...

For Tomcc

Mark said...

Classical flutist reacts to Yetro Tull - She is Speechless!
https://youtu.be/gKSrq_qjB_Y

Big Mike said...

How could Baez, a woman, sing it?

@Mark, just for grins I found a clip on YouTube and played it. The short answer to your question is that she sings it very, very poorly. I may need to buy new speakers for my desktop.

Josephbleau said...

The animals the animals, lets talk dirty to the animals...

readering said...

I love Eric Burden's version, the first I heard, but a great song takes many interpretations. I enjoyed Joan Baez. This week I would be heading to NOLA again, the most unique US city, for work, but for covid.

chickelit said...

@Tomcc: Here's your link: here. Now tell me that you've got everything you want
AND that bird could sing

But you don't get me
You don't get
Me

Yancey Ward said...

Faithfull's music gets played in a lot of television shows I have noticed over the years. I remember one of her songs was in an episode of "Mindhunter" near the end of the second season, and I remember one of her songs was in an early episode of "The Sopranos" and in an early episode of "Cold Case". And I remember at least two other occasions, but can't quite remember the shows right off the top of my head.

readering said...

Burdon!

Josephbleau said...

Blogger Mark said...

Classical flutist reacts to Yetro Tull - She is Speechless!

In and around the lakes, people come out of the sky and stand there.

Tomcc said...

For Yancey Ward: Thanks!
(Give a man a fish...)

rcocean said...

Streisand would've been more popular if she'd worn a bag over her head.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

Only song I can think of that mentions ice fishing.

I don't think Joan Baez ever desecrated this one.

Yancey Ward said...

We are getting some snow right now in Oak Ridge, but the temperature supposed to rise all night, so it will turn to rain at some point soon.

I grew up in the mountains of eastern Kentucky in the 70s and early 80s. During the late seventies, we got 3 consecutive snowy and cold winters from 1976-77 to 1978-79. After that, we got snow pretty much every winter, but it would come and melt away within a week. During the winter of 1977-78, when I was in the 6th grade, we went out on Christmas vacation around December 20th, and we didn't go back to school until mid February- it was snow days for the entire month of January and half of February. Of course, we paid the price in May as the school year was lengthened and ran into June for an extra 3 weeks.

rcocean said...

Jerry lewis is a God in France. And "Three's Company" was the most popular TV show.

So, the fact that lots of people like babs Streisand or Madonna or L. welk doesn't impress me.
As Lucy once remarked "Did Beethoven ever get his face on a bubble gum guard?". 14 million looked at a Streisand video which means 314 million Americans along with the other 5 billion people in the world did NOT care to watch her video.

Yancey Ward said...

My favorite Madonna song.

Viewed 37 million times. Only about 10 by me.

J. Farmer said...

I love this one: a mature Marianne Faithful singing "As Tears Go By" with a video montage from the 60's.
https://youtu.be/S7oTqILoLns


A 19-year-old Marianne sings that song a cappella during a cameo in the Jean-Luc Godard film Made in the U.S.A. It's absolutely mesmerizing.

That said, I love Marianne Faithfull's 1979 album Broken English. It's an absolute masterpiece, and her cover of Shel Silverstein's "Ballad of Lucy Jordan" gave it a darkness and an edge that Dr. Hook never managed.

narciso said...


But ofcourse

https://freebeacon.com/biden-administration/state-dept-spox-largest-threat-to-u-s-national-security-are-u-s-cops/

tpceltus said...

stephen cooper,

Thank you for bringing up Hot Jazz Saturday Night! I pretty much stopped listening to DC’s WAMU years ago when they started going to an all news/talk radio format. (Really, how much more news/talk radio did the DC metro need?) Once the popular and legendary Hot Jazz went off the air, I stopped listening to WAMU...not out of pique, but the station didn’t have much else to interest me. With your comment, I checked WAMU’s schedule and am pleased to see it’s been added for a 2 year run.

Thanks again. You made my evening!

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

Yancey Ward said...

My favorite Madonna song.

I was always partial to this one, myself.

Mark said...

These reaction to first time hearing a song videos are really entertaining.

walter said...

Quote Tweet
Marianne Williamson
@marwilliamson
· Jan 28
Where are the $2k checks
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Joe sends...LOVE.

eddie willers said...

forced to listen to Joan Baez’s “Diamonds and Rust” until I broke and gave up my partners... I think I lasted 27 hours...

You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din. I'd given them up as soon as the cartridge thumped on the lead in.

eddie willers said...

Only song I can think of that mentions ice fishing.

I saw that and thought, "That can't be true. The Band did one on Northern Lights – Southern Cross.

Then I clicked......

Guildofcannonballs said...

I've always considered only one song the best ever to come out of Motown. Once I considered what the best ever could be, there was only one answer.

And all your fuckheadedness is only contributing.

narciso said...

Its good, but the best even from the four tops, but they knew how to craft lyrics then and synch them to a beat, now thats beside the point.

William said...

Marianne Faithful is a Hapsburg on her mother's side. Despite this, I like her version of Working Class Hero...I don't know enough about opera to compare the relative merits of opera singers, but Renee Fleming looks like a Mozart heroine...Some singers have a voice that's perfect for certain songs or certain composers. Mary Martin captures the lilt in a Richard Rodgers melody. In his version of Stardust, Nat King Cole's voice has a sense of wonder at the enchantment of memory that perfectly aligns with the melody.......Johnny Cash's old man voice was far better than Sinatra's.

Churchy LaFemme: said...

Karen Carpenter was great, and it's a real shame she didn't get the help she needed.

However, 20th C? I'd go with Jo Stafford. Such purity!

J. Farmer said...

Marianne Faithful is a Hapsburg on her mother's side. Despite this, I like her version of Working Class Hero...

Interesting. Marianne played Maria Theresa in Sofia Coppola's 2006 biopic Marie Antoinette.

Guildofcannonballs said...

Dirt people doing dirt things ought expect dirt inspectors to tell them the dirtiness isn't government enough, dirtwise.

Guildofcannonballs said...

Hey Buckley died in Feb. 2008, let's go ahead and kick that corpse.

Can you imagine what William Frank Buckley Junior should have accomplished?

I am just so disappointed when I consider what a Yale man might have done, were he a heart human given. Alas.

Guildofcannonballs said...

Mark Steyn's buddy K. Shaidle ripped up Buckley's corpse as best as a little bitch could. Gee, why does the right lose?

The Crack Emcee said...

I've cued this up, so you can hear the reference to William F. Buckley in The Democrat Party Is A Cult.

I actually came here to see if y'all saw DOJ Arrest Reports Reveal Capitol Riot Was Planned Almost Exclusively On Facebook, Twitter and YouTube, Yet Parler Was Shut Down Anyway?

Both are examples of what I'd call a funky situation.

The Crack Emcee said...

rcocean said...

"Jerry lewis is a God in France. And "Three's Company" was the most popular TV show."

They were ga-ga for "Friends" when I was there. I, as usual, isolated myself to keep them from seeing me gagging.

"So, the fact that lots of people like babs Streisand or Madonna or L. welk doesn't impress me."

Who's their King of Super-Late Cultural Cliche's today? It'll never be Ike Turner, or Tarheel Slim, or any of the other men who deserve it - for putting gas in Rock N Roll's car - that's for sure, though I still listen to them more than everyone else mentioned in this thread,...who never could hold a candle to them. It's gotta be someone from the Democrat Party wing of art.

"As Lucy once remarked "Did Beethoven ever get his face on a bubble gum guard?"."

No - but Czarface will. The Crack Emcee would, too, if y'all knew anything.

"14 million looked at a Streisand video which means 314 million Americans along with the other 5 billion people in the world did NOT care to watch her video."

Amen. They don't understand how ugly the world is they've created - or how badly I want, and we need, out. They're Boomers.

They just know what THEY wanted, and that was all that mattered.

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gadfly said...

After a week on the job, Biden’s team is still trying to locate upwards of 20 million vaccine doses that have been sent to states — a mystery that has hampered plans to speed up the national vaccination effort.

Twenty million doses of Covid-19 vaccine would bring big bucks on the black market. Has anyone checked the freezers at Mar-A-Lago for the rerouted shipments?

Lawrence Person said...

You might thing the GameStop short sellers would fold.

You'd be wrong.

donald said...

In which Gadfly reminds us that he is retarded. A mouthbreather. A simpleton who vomits forth his spoonfed talking points.

wildswan said...

There wasn't much ice in Maryland but I garnered the full experience by having ice crack under me and falling part way into a pond; and by falling down every time I stood up with skates on my feet; and by skiing straight down an ice-covered slope headlong into a snowbank. Is there more? Winter is so pointless.

Iman said...

Valerie Carter. Now THERE was a singer. What a voice!

Deb said...

Joan Baez changed some of the lyrics to The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down. I'm surprised she would sing it at all. It's Levon Helm & The Band's song. No one can sing it with the same passion. Same when Baez tried to sing some of Dylan's songs.

exhelodrvr1 said...

Judith Durham would be my choice

Will Cate said...

I'd rather have bamboo shoots driven up my fingernails than listen to Joan Baez.

Clyde said...

Today I’m listening to Carly Simon. Love her music.

Fernandinande said...

Joan Baez, Judy Collins, Joni Mitchell were great.

I just realized that I thought Joan Baez and Joni Mitchell were the same person, who looked like Joni Mitchell. I blame government schools.

The Crack Emcee said...

"The Democratic Party, which now controls the House, the Senate and the White House genuinely believes they have a monopoly on objective truth. They believe they're the party of science and rationality, and that the only way to disagree with them is if you're either a deranged conspiracy theorist or a seditionist, somebody who is engaged in criminal conduct or terrorism.

And therefore, they genuinely believe, it's not a show. It's not a pretext. They all have convinced one another through this echo chamber that they've created, essentially, the entire media except this network, which is why they want to shut it down, that if you disagree with their orthodoxies and their consensus, you are a threat and a danger.

And it's so ironic they spent four years claiming they are fighting fascism and authoritarianism, and what are they trying to do now? They're trying to harness corporate and monopoly power to silence everyone who disagrees with them, the very hallmark, the epitome of the fascism they claim to be fighting, but which in reality they embody."


- Glen Greenwald

But it's not a cult. It's just "the party of science and rationality" - featuring OPRAH, MARIANNE WILLIAMSON, DR. OZ, DR. PHIL, ETC.

Fritz said...

Speaking of Joan Baez, the story of how Led Zeppelin covered her version of Babe I'm Gonna Leave You is interesting.

FWIW, the Zeppelin version is the best.



Fritz said...

For rhardin

"In 1960, Anne Bredon appeared on a live folk-music show on radio station KPFA in Berkeley, California, where she performed "Babe I'm Gonna Leave You". Janet Smith heard the performance and later Baez learned the song from Smith at Oberlin College."

mezzrow said...

We should read more Albert Murray.

In The Hero and the Blues, the novelist and critic Albert Murray compares Greek tragedy to the blues tradition in black American culture: “Not unlike ancient tragedy, it would have the people for whom it is composed and performed confront, acknowledge, and proceed in spite of, and even in terms of, the ugliness and meanness in the human condition. It is thus a device for making the best of a bad situation.”

Zeno of Citium nods. I read this whole thing at the link and I am glad I did.

The Tragic Vision: Making the Best of Things

rhhardin said...

Baez toured colleges in probably spring 1961 and stayed at Oberlin's Co-op, a women's dorm where everybody worked at food and maintenance to pay their own way; where Janet Smith lived. Baez would have been impressed with Smith's singing. She was very good.

Doubtless some impromptu singing there.

rhhardin said...

I played a few informal concerts with Smith. She really liked the lute and odd flourishes to basic chording I could do with it, in sort of a classical mode. Adding a second voice with it.

Really just lute music cliches.

rhhardin said...

A lute is basically a 12-string guitar with the G string tuned down to F#, except there are extra bass strings sometimes. I had one extra.

rhhardin said...

If you can play a lute, you can play a viola da gamba. Same tuning, frets.

Mr. Forward said...

“ Without a sense of tragedy we are left with shallow utopian idealisms, abstractions, and generalities that reject the harsh realities of human experience by blaming them on someone or something else. “
Albert Murray.
Thanks to messrow for the link at 7:12 am

Pairs well with Muddy Waters.

J. Farmer said...

We should read more Albert Murray.

Murray's The Omni-Americans is probably my favorite book on race that is opposed to my own worldview. Murray rejects the biological notion of race but writes masterfully on the culture of race in America. He preferred the humanities to the social sciences, which he largely had contempt for, and I appreciate his pragmatic American pluralism.

The Crack Emcee said...

'Honestly, go ahead and be kooky and get into weird mystical s**t or whatever, Life is short. Reality is fake. F**k the haters'

Michael K said...

Best voice on earth and gorgeous.

Yancey Ward said...

Yes, Mike, Ms. Garanča is truly stunning in that in that video. Simply wow.

Yancey Ward said...

Northof,

That is probably my second favorite Madonna song- that or "Like a Prayer".

Narr said...

Great find, Doc K.

I've had a thing for Magdalena Kozena (Mrs. Sir Simon Rattle--I had no idea) for a while now, and buwaya (pbuh) turned me on to Patricia Janeckova.

Narr
Dee-lightful

Tina Trent said...

They're expecting minor flurries near me tonight. Nothing sticking. So of course the stores are being emptied of bread and milk.

This is an Atlanta tradition that I, like many former snow-state northerners, find either bewildering or touching. I think it's a human longing for snow, for the camaraderie of snow, for the way snow seems to stop time and is beautiful.

It's also a harmless and cheery manifestation of the madness of crowds.

Ken B said...

Andreas Backhaus has sound advice
“ It's one thing to counter Covid19 deniers and conspiracy theorists now, and it's important. It'll be another thing to get along with their followers once the pandemic is over. Excluding politicians, scientists, and grifters, I propose extensive and collective amnesty and amnesia.”

So those of you here, and it’s a lot, pushing the dangerous “flu flu flu” bullshit, or the odious “it’s only old folks” line will be forgiven. Even if, like Yancey Ward, you did your level best to spread this denialist tripe. I think though Michael K should fall under the rubric of scientist, and his shame will stick.

Yancey Ward said...

I see K(ar)en B is back to slandering people. Go fuck yourself, Ken. For real.

Ken B said...

You are not a fool Yancey, so it’s especially bad that you have given in to the worst kinds of denialism. Something about the inability to even imagine, much less admit, error. The anti Feynman, as I observed before.

walter said...

Did Madonna ever put her thoughts about blowing up the White House to a beat?

Ken B said...

Even people on Yancey's side aren’t on Yancey's side this time https://quillette.com/2021/01/16/rise-of-the-coronavirus-cranks/

Rebarbative is le mot juste.

Ken B said...

From the linked article, exactly what you see on Twitter and here from denialists

“ People who are not used to dealing with statistics have been trying to familiarise themselves with concepts and figures they’ve never seen before and don’t properly understand. Words and phrases are confidently repeated by those who don’t really know what they mean. There is no shortage of stupidity on Twitter, but this is something different, something almost transcendent. The inability to absorb or even acknowledge the most basic facts is beyond anything I’ve seen before.”

somewhy said...

My thanks to all the above for their links to some wonderful music. Cannot remember ever spending over 2 hours on one Althouse post before, but well worth it!

I was glad Eva Cassidy got a mention - but no link?! Try Fields Of Gold but that whole album is quite simply brilliant.

Sorry to rave on; my simple thanks for a lovely couple of hours.