December 30, 2020

"Missouri Republican Sen. Josh Hawley said Wednesday he will object when Congress counts the Electoral College votes next week, which will force lawmakers in both the House and Senate to vote..."

"... on whether to accept the results of President-elect Joe Biden's victory.... The objection will not change the outcome of the election, only delaying the inevitable affirmation of Biden's victory in November over President Donald Trump. Democrats will reject any objections in the House, and multiple Republican senators have argued against an objection that will provide a platform for Trump's baseless conspiracy theories claiming the election was stolen from him. Hawley's objection, which other senators may still join, will also put many of his Senate Republican colleagues in a difficult political position, forcing them to vote on whether to side with Trump or with the popular will of the voters."

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LSpeed said...

I commend Josh for believing what he sees as election fraud. We need more in Washington that think and act for what they believe.

Leland said...

I'm glad we can get everything on the record.

Nonapod said...

baseless conspiracy theories

Baseless?

TheOne Who Is Not Obeyed said...

"CNN opines".

FIFY

NCMoss said...

CNN: Hawley's objection, which other senators may still join, will also put many of his Senate Republican colleagues in a difficult political position, forcing them to vote on whether to side with Trump or with the popular will of the voters.

Weasel words; typical.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...
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YoungHegelian said...

for Trump's baseless conspiracy theories claiming the election was stolen from him

After all the stuff we've been through in the past 12 years, of things that were just right-wing conspiracy theories until, well, they turned out to be true (IRS being used to stymie right-wing activism, Trump transition team being "wiretapped", Hunter Biden's "hacked" laptop as Russian dis-info, etc), I really wonder if the folks at CNN would like to bet anything of value on the "baseless" statement that the 2020 election was on the Up & Up.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

Hunter Biden and the 'big guy': the anatomy of a foreign enrichment scandal

Nonapod said...

The claim that CNN is a news organization seems like baseless conspiracy theory.

Wince said...

That's CNN's story, anyway, and they're sticking to it.

Dave Begley said...

The Dems are afraid of Hawley and the GOP putting all the facts into the record.

CNN and MSNBC won't cover any of the facts on election fraud.

By all means, force the spineless GOP Senators and Members to vote; a vote to approve a stolen election.

With CNN, it is nearly always ipse dixit. They say Trump's claims are baseless but they never give the details. Very much a basis in fact for the claims of fraud.

Dave Begley said...

Hawley has a Stanford BA and a Yale JD. He was AG of Missouri. He's a serious guy and needs to be taken seriously.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

The media refuse to report actual proof of fraud.

Our media is corrupt. Just like the party they support.

Howard said...

I prefer Braless conspiracy theories. One doesn't mind when they jiggle the numbers.

Nonapod said...

forcing them to vote on whether to side with Trump or with the popular will of the voters

I don't understand this. If all this was just some "baseless conspiracy theory" against the "will of the voters", then there'd be no reason for GOP Senators to worry about opposing Trump, right? I mean, there'd be no reason to side with Trump since he doesn't represent the will of the voters... according to CNN anyway.

PM said...

I always wait to make up my mind until I hear what Don Lemon has to say.

readering said...

Hawley is a very ambitious guy, and his reckoning of the 2024 primary electorate needs to be taken seriously.

Rabel said...

Hillary and Bill were both electors for New York and voted on Dec. 14 for Joe and Kamala.

Other than that, Hillary has been relatively quite since the election.

Too quiet.

I bring this up to point out that if Joe is sworn in, and the Dems take those two Georgia Senate seats, then "Attorney General Hillary Rodham Clinton" is a definite possibility.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

Rabel - they never go away, do they?

The cluster of elite pay-to-play democrats... Pelosi, Clinton, Biden.

Unknown said...

It’s only baseless when the democrat media wants to hide what happened. We’ve seen this done forever.

We are witnessing the destruction of our country.

Michael K said...

Blogger readering said...
Hawley is a very ambitious guy, and his reckoning of the 2024 primary electorate needs to be taken seriously.


Readering showing some sense at last. I look forward to Pierre Delicto voting on it.

I wonder how many voting against Trump will be primaried next election ?

victoria said...

What a good little soldier. Going down with the ship.


Vicki from Pasadena

chuck said...

Resist the coup.

Carol said...

will also put many of his Senate Republican colleagues in a difficult political position,

Boy howdy. How they must hate Trump, messing up their sandbox like this.

LOL

pacwest said...

"baseless conspiracy theories"

Baseless?

Yes baseless. At least that's what the CCP, er media, have decided. Get with the program comrade. Or not. (At your own peril.) Me, I'm learning to speak Mandarin.

rhhardin said...

Tom Clancy has CNN as so reliable as a source of news that the CIA monitors it for information.

rhhardin said...

A modern Tom Clancy novel would have Twitter as the trusted source for intelligence agencies.

Big Mike said...

Trump's baseless conspiracy theories

Not so baseless if you actually go and look.

Mr Wibble said...

Good.

I think Biden is going to be sworn in, but the way our elections are handled is a disgrace, and the people whining about how Trump and these challenges are somehow harming our "institutions" are full of shit. The only thing that he's doing is allowing their incompetence, corruption, and stupidity to be exposed when they'd rather cover it up. If you don't like all this drama and legal wrangling, then work to create a system that everyone is willing to accept as fair.

dbp said...

A question for our hostess or other JDs out there. What would happen if a majority of the Senate were to vote in favor of the objection?

Chris of Rights said...

Baseless.

Hmm. Interesting.

steve uhr said...

Good. Will be interesting to see how the vote goes. He is putting some of his repub colleagues in a tough position. Eg, will Ron Johnson vote to not count the Wisconsin presidential election? Probably.

Skeptical Voter said...

Ahh CNN and its use of the term "baseless". Translated from CNN speak that means CNN doesn't like it.

Wince said...
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Unknown said...

“ I wonder how many voting against Trump will be primaried next election ?”

Well I haven’t let my reps know about this one, but they got an earful about the national defense bill.

Wince said...

Jovan Pulitzer's GA Senate testimony just released (48min).

This guy sounds like the real deal, with dozens of machine vision patents.

Says he has the tech to examine 500k absentee ballots to detect fraud in 2 hours.

Jovan Hutton Pulitzer Testimony @ GA Senate Judiciary Committee

Will watch the whole thing tonight.

Sprezzatura said...

No no no Doc Mike.

We can’t say for sure that Hawley isn’t part of the deep state. I think he may only be supporting a two hour delay. Big Mo Brooks is for a twelve hour delay. If Hawley doesn’t vote for DJT re all six states targeted by Mo, then Hawley is just as much of a squish as Romney is. Maybe worse because Hawley would be tricking you into thinking he was full-DJT, but he is only film-flam for DJT. A wolf in sheep’s clothing.

Any Senator who doesn’t support the fight in all six Mo states is a fraud who hates America and is for communism for POTUS.

Doc Mike et al yur too smart to be fooled by phony support for DJT. Go Mo or go commie!

DrSquid said...

Baseless?!? As far as anyone at CNN knows, anyway.

Mike Sylwester said...

This situation will be a dilemma for Google and YouTube.

On the one hand, they have declared that they are trying to remove from the Internet all discussion of mass fraud in the election.

On the other hand, Congress will be discussing mass fraud in the election.

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Michael K said...

Blogger rhhardin said...
Tom Clancy has CNN as so reliable as a source of news that the CIA monitors it for information.


On our drive to CA and back, we listened to Sheryl Atkin son's new book, "Slanted" She worked at CNN for years before going to CBS. She knows lots of the old timers from the days when Clancy though CNN was reliable. They are all appalled at what has happened since 2000 when Turner lost control. He was a lefty but wanted nothing but news. The did not even name the newsreaders early on because they wanted no "stars" like Acosta.

Mike Sylwester said...

What happened to the expression "without evidence" ?

When and why did it get replaced by the expression "baseless" ?

Big Mike said...

Still all in all I’d rather Harley didn’t announce that he was planning to do this — he might be risking Perdue’s and Loeffler’s runoff chances.

Kevin said...

Shorter CNN: See no evil!

Michael K said...

Blogger Sprezzatura said...
No no no Doc Mike.


I assume this is trolling.

Darkisland said...

Blogger Darkisland said...

Blogger victoria said...

What a good little soldier. Going down with the ship.

Is that a reference to the Birkenhead Drill? If so, I'm not sure that it works. Not many could say what the Birkenhead drill is without the aid of Duck or Bing. (Can you, Vicki?)

If not, the idea of soldiers going down with the ship makes even less sense.

Sailors going down with the ship makes a bit more sense. Except that sailors don't willingly go down with the ship.

John Henry

gspencer said...

Maybe it won't change the results, but it will further besmirch Biden and his claimed "victory."

Clyde said...

"...or with the popular will of the fraudsters."

FIFY!

Jupiter said...

It makes me wonder who decided that the term to employ was "baseless". Not "erroneous", "unfounded", "laughable", "spurious". No, it is always "baseless". It is clear that they all got the memo, but I wonder who sent it?

Kevin said...

"Gentlemen. You can't debate in here. This is the World's Greatest Deliberative Body!"

MalaiseLongue said...

What happened to the expression "without evidence"? When and why did it get replaced by the expression "baseless"?

The expression "without evidence" got Memory Holed when evidence began to be produced. Because evidence was being produced.

Ken B said...

Walmart posted a snarky and insulting Tweet in response!
They later apologized.
I suspect it was an employee who thought that he had the power and therefore the right to make such a tweet. That attitude is common.
In a sane world he (or she) would be fired immediately. The damage to Walmart of insultRed America and Trump voters could be huge.

Nonapod said...

Walmart posted a snarky and insulting Tweet in response!

As if I needed yet another reason to not shop at Walmart.

Clayton Hennesey said...

Catch22:

Will Congress objecting to electors spoil the battle space for Mike Pence?

"GOP congressional challenges to electors would be a catastrophic tactical mistake"

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/12/gop_congressional_challenges_to_electors_would_be_a_catastrophic_tactical_mistake.html

But, if Congress refrains from objecting, will Mike Pence actually have the balls to count only untainted electors?

"It's for Mike Pence to Judge whether a Presidential Election Was Held at All"

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/12/its_for_mike_pence_to_judge_whether_a_presidential_election_was_held_at_all.html

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Extreme neutrality fecal fling redux?

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Steven said...

Yeah, sure, Democrats in Congress have refused to accept adverse election results for a generation, making objections to the counting of the electoral votes every single time a Republican has won since 1988, but now it's objectionable because Republicans are doing it.

A question for our hostess or other JDs out there. What would happen if a majority of the Senate were to vote in favor of the objection?

dbp, I'm not a JD, but I recently read the rule. The House and the Senate both vote separately on each objection. Unless they both vote to uphold the objection, the votes are counted.

campy said...

Hawley should be applauded for this. I mean, dissent is still the highest form of patriotism, isn't it?

Tommy Duncan said...

"Trump's baseless conspiracy theories"

CNN's willful ignorance.

MadTownGuy said...

Jupiter said...
"It makes me wonder who decided that the term to employ was "baseless". Not "erroneous", "unfounded", "laughable", "spurious". No, it is always "baseless". It is clear that they all got the memo, but I wonder who sent it?"

It was in the same TPM as "skyrocketing."

I'm Full of Soup said...

Philadelphia Inquirer news article described a Trump lawsuit in PA as "baseless and brazen".

effinayright said...

Tommy Duncan said...
"Trump's baseless conspiracy theories"

CNN's willful ignorance.
*****************

Worse than that-----it is crass editorializing in the middle of a purported news article.

CNN should be telling us what happened, but not what they think about the merits of what happened.

You won't see them telling us WHY Trump's position is "baseless", or why the hundreds of sworn affidavits from campaign workers, truck drivers and certified observers supporting his position are just aspects of a "conspiracy theory.

Man, do they suck.

Qwinn said...

I have yet to meet a voter who does not believe the amount of evidence of voter fraud is downright staggering who isn't also perfectly okay, if not happier, with Biden being President.

I have seen more than a few who voted for Biden who acknowledge the fraud though.

Curious George said...

" that will provide a platform for Trump's baseless conspiracy theories claiming the election was stolen from him"

LOL All evidence to the contrary.

Chuck said...

I was interested in the one vaguely-true part of Hawley’s statement on this subject. Hawley offered zero proof that the results of the election were fraudulent. But he did state — accurately — that Democrats staged futile objections to the electoral certification in 2016. So from that, I interpret Hawley’s position as being, ‘We are doing this stupid and futile thing because Democrats did the same stupid and futile thing four years ago.’

Sprezzatura said...

It’s a real mystery why the word “baseless” is used re the DJT lies that trick his followers, but don’t fool judges who look at facts. Some folks who comment here can’t escape the con man’s mind control, so this mystery re why “baseless” is used will forever be unsolvable re you. Which is a win-win. You enjoy the bliss of ignorance. Folks like me enjoy your ignorance, too.

“All told, at least 86 judges have rejected at least one post-election lawsuit, and 38 of them were appointed by Republicans.

What’s more, before the election, Trump-appointed judges had been instrumental in ruling against loosening voting rules. A Washington Post analysis from Ann E. Marimow and Matt Kiefer found that Trump appointees accounted for three of every four decisions in that regard.
That more than anything would seem to suggest that the ground was fertile for there to be a judge — someone, somewhere — who might breathe life into Trump’s baseless claims of massive voter fraud, even if it would never be enough to actually change the winner of the 2020 election. The fact that not even that has happened truly says it all about the veracity of Trump’s claims.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/12/14/most-remarkable-rebukes-trumps-legal-case-judges-he-hand-picked/

Sam L. said...

Are there any guesses how many "Claimed to be Republicans" will become Democrats? I mean, other than "waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too many"?

Sprezzatura said...

Chuck, I also noticed that he slipped up re that.

Still, I think the runner angle is to wedge between him and Mo Brooks.

Then you force the DJT fans to think for themselves? Go full DJT. Which makes you a Mo loon. Or, acknowledge that going full DJT is BS, so it’s best to do dumb symbolism, like Hawley. Which makes you a symbolic dummy. Which is the best choice? Such a shame that the truth and reality aren’t available as a third option for the DJT fans.

Sprezzatura said...

funner

PB said...

Well, the Presidential Election Act IS unconstitutional...

Chuck said...

This is a great, illustrative analogy; former DoJ lawyer Harry Littman says that allowing VP Pence to upset the election results would be like allowing Oscar presenters to ignore the envelopes and decide who the winners are.

https://mobile.twitter.com/harrylitman/status/1343945718281588742

Chuck said...

Also from Twitter; it has been asked that if indeed Trump is claiming victory, exactly what is his claimed margin of victory? Exactly which states did Trump win? How? By how many votes? What was done wrong, exactly, and in which states?

There’s no good answer, of course. Just a bunch of shit that sounds like something to a LimbaughLevinHannity audience.

Michael K said...

Which makes you a Mo loon

Speaking of loons....

Mo Brooks should be the Senator from Alabama. He was blocked by McConnell from fund raising as McConnell supported the corrupt deal between the AL governor and the AG who was investigating him. The Gov appointed the AG and retired safe from the law. The former AG was a RINO and got primaried, as expected, but not by Brooks. Instead we had the fiasco that elected Jones.

I think something like that happened in GA which is why the GOP will probably lose the majority in the Senate. Loeffler's husband bought the seat.

Michael K said...

Blogger Sprezzatura said...
It’s a real mystery why the word “baseless” is used re the DJT lies that trick his followers,


We really don't need another lefty troll, what with Chuck here to spread his crap.

I assume you are happy with the Seattle situation. Your team elected the loonies.

Joe Smith said...

Good...put everyone on record.

Let's see which 'conservatives' need to get primaried.

Mark said...

Conservative cancel culture will be active next primary season it seems.

No free thought allowed. Either tow the DJT line or get out.

Good luck with your small tent.

YoungHegelian said...

@Spezzatura,

All told, at least 86 judges have rejected at least one post-election lawsuit, and 38 of them were appointed by Republicans.

How many of those cases actually were decisions on factual claims of voter fraud versus claims on technical legal issues such as standing? Ask yourself this question --- how could a trial that concerned itself with an empirical question such as vote fraud be resolved in such a short period of time? Answer -- they can't, but technical legal questions such as standing can be. Do you consider a suit by 18 states Attorneys General to be such a frivolous thing that it can be dismissed by a one page SCOTUS retort? If the behavior of the judges in the article is considered to be indicative of the lack of merit of Trump's case, then are the legal opinions of 18 state's AGs also to be considered meritless? Are the AGs all trained apes?

Spezz, you don't comment here much. We've rehearsed all of this in previous postings. Nothing has changed since those postings.

Fandor said...

My question are as follows. If, after all that has transpired,the spying, the false accusations, the unnecessary special counsel investigation, impeachment and ALL the voter fraud over a score of years, that always favors democrats, WHY does anyone in elected office, the military or the judicial arm of the government ever raise their right hand, put their left on a bible, and swear to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States?
My second question is as follows. Does no one believe that the democrats and their allies in big tech, and the media, would lie, cheat and steal to gain power?
Third question. Why would anyone serve or take an oath to preserve a corrupt political class and their bureaucracy?

Francisco D said...

Biden will be inaugurated and the Biden/DNC administration will take over "healing" the country that they tried to destroy. However, we cannot make this outrageous ballot stuffing the norm. It has been going on for a long time and just now went to an extreme in order to get rid of Trump.

Hawley is courageous because the GOP leadership has made a deal with the DNC leadership. Being the stupid party, the GOP will be shocked when the Dems renege on their promise to quit ballot stuffing. We need more Josh Hawleys.

320Busdriver said...

Has anyone “debunked” the PA data showing 200,000 more votes counted in the President race than there were voters. That number is twice the margin between the two candidates.

If we don’t nail this down, one way or another, aren’t we just giving up on ever having fair elections.

Here’s the NBC affiliate story.
https://wjactv.com/news/local/pa-republican-lawmakers-analysis-finds-presidential-election-numbers-dont-add-up

stever said...

"popular will of the voters"

You used that phrase again, I don't think you know what it means.

steve uhr said...

"I have yet to meet a voter who does not believe the amount of evidence of voter fraud is downright staggering who isn't also perfectly okay, if not happier, with Biden being President.

Is that surprising? Most Biden supporters believe there wasn't significant fraud. Most Trump supporters believe there was significant voter fraud. So what's your point?

If I were Trump, and I just raised $200 plus million to "stop the steal," and I really believed that the amount of fraud was downright staggering, I would prepare a detailed White Paper going through all the allegations of fraud state by state, point by point, citing to and attaching the supporting evidence, including the material affidavits. Why is there not such a document?

Instead, we get a 30-page joke memo from Navarro, working on-his-own time so as not to violate the Hatch Act, which cites to dozens of John and Jane Doe affidavits, with no links so you could not read them even if you wanted to.

No worry about going to jail for perjury if you anonymously swear to tell the truth. I have never heard of an anonymous affidavit, prob because they would never be admissible in court. How does one test the veracity of the affidavit if you don't know who the affiant is? Hard to take their deposition. What a joke.

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Sprezzatura said...

“Nothing has changed since those postings.”

Did you see the new findings re the signature reviews in GA? That’s a new change.

What’s your guess re the the results? Did the DJT jabber re fraud turn out to be proved? Or, the opposite?

BTW, if your such an expert re water under the bridge re this stuff you’d know that pro-DJT claims were shot down for technical and factual (re looking for proof of fraud) reasons. And, if this is so settled, why do so many here still have brains that are filled w/ BS lies re the baseless claims of a con man? Is the idea that we just ignore the repeated wrong jabber of loons, like ignoring a bum mumbling to themselves under a bridge?

That doesn’t seem like as much fun as making fun.

320Busdriver said...


Blogger Mark said...
Conservative cancel culture will be active next primary season it seems.

It’s amazing just how true the axiom “ they are doing exactly what they are accusing the other side of doing” is. Here is another prime example.

YoungHegelian said...

@Spezz,

Did you see the new findings re the signature reviews in GA? That’s a new change.

And there are other changes since in state legislatures, claims by IT specialists on the voting machines, etc that go the other way.

If you have a link to case that dealt with questions of fact post it here. Otherwise, stop being such an arrogant shit and assuming that people who have a different view on questions of fact are fools. You, like us, are in no position to resolve these many questions of fact. Unlike you, we believe that they need to be carefully & publicly examined.

Left Bank of the Charles said...

Harley is just joshing. It will be a revealing exercise. We may get to see which Republican Senators would have voted for Trump’s impeachment this year, if they had been willing to vote their conscience.

Iman said...

No worry about going to jail for perjury if you anonymously swear to tell the truth. I have never heard of an anonymous affidavit, prob because they would never be admissible in court. How does one test the veracity of the affidavit if you don't know who the affiant is? Hard to take their deposition. What a joke.

I commend the tactic which will hopefully lessen the chance of the affiants being doxxed and having their lives - and the lives of their loved ones - ruined by the overwhelming number of malevolent leftwing shitheels that thrive on this aberrant behavior.

Fandor said...

"The objection will not change the outcome of the election, only delaying the inevitable affirmation of Biden's victory in November over President Donald Trump",so CNN in their wisdom states.
Perhaps, the outcome of the stolen"election"will not change and the corrupt members of the House and Senate will affirm the zombie Biden's "victory".
However, the country will be turned on it's head soon after.
The times ahead will not be dull, normal, as Althouse and her ilk prefer.

Big Mike said...

The times ahead will not be dull, normal, as Althouse and her ilk prefer.

Nope.

Sprezzatura said...

YH,

I’m not posting the link. That’s no fun. That’s the opposite of fun.

I posed a question asking DJT followers to guess what the review showed. Obviously they should have no problem saying that the pro-DJT jabber re signature fraud was shown to be correct.

Come forward.

The time for the results of the review is not now.

Michael K said...

Blogger Mark said...
Conservative cancel culture will be active next primary season it seems.


You know why it is supposed to be a secret ballot? So you can vote for whom you think will do what you want. They call that democracy. Millions of mail in ballots are not an example. Especially when run through the scanners multiple times.

320Busdriver said...

I imagine the tenor of Washington will be rather fraught on the 6th. Especially if it looks like both GA candidates will or have won.

Michael K said...

Trolls don't post links. Even Inga posts links, even if they don't say what she thinks they say. Trolls are not about persuading anyone.

320Busdriver said...

Blogger Big Mike said...
The times ahead will not be dull, normal, as Althouse and her ilk prefer.

Nope.


I’m feeling a general sense of unease too!

Michael K said...

Is that surprising? Most Biden supporters believe there wasn't significant fraud. Most Trump supporters believe there was significant voter fraud. So what's your point?

I agree with you. Only 33% of Democrats agree that it was fraud. That comforts you ?

Joe Smith said...

"Good luck with your small tent."

At least it won't be full of weak-kneed RINOs.

At a certain point, you have to take a stand.

When there is no hill you're willing to die on, then you end up living on your knees.

The Republican party as it exists now is a disaster because very few got on board the Trump train...and now people like Sasse end up sucking Pelosi's cock, which, by the way, is bigger than his own.

Sprezzatura said...

Doc Mike,

Will you go on the record? What happened when GA audited mail-in voting signatures? Fraud? Or, no (i.e. 2 of 15,000) fraud/questionable? Pick one.

BTW, it’s a safe bet that you’re so far removed from reality that I can quiz you about GA doing a manual recount to find Dominion or ballot scanning fraud. If GA did a manual recount would there be proof that Dominion was hacked and sending fake data and/or ballots were fraudulently multiple scanned? What say you?

Inga said...

“Trolls don't post links. Even Inga posts links, even if they don't say what she thinks they say. Trolls are not about persuading anyone.”

Michael K would be well served to stop being the Althouse blog’s comments sections “Karen”.

Bruce Hayden said...

"CNN: Hawley's objection, which other senators may still join, will also put many of his Senate Republican colleagues in a difficult political position, forcing them to vote on whether to side with Trump or with the DEMS, THEIR DEEP STATE, AND MSM PROPAGANDA ARM."

Fixed it for you.

But, yes, it will put his Senate colleagues in a difficult position. Do they vote with the Dems to endorse the cheating, thereby guaranteeing a primary challenge next time around, or do their vote for their party and their constituents?

Big Mike said...

I think something like that happened in GA which is why the GOP will probably lose the majority in the Senate. Loeffler's husband bought the seat.

I have a rare disagreement with you. If Loeffler was as ultimately unpopular as Luther Strange had been then it would be Warnock vs Doug Collins. Collins was not a flawed candidate of limited popularity the way Roy Moore was.

Inga said...

“Will you go on the record? What happened when GA audited mail-in voting signatures? Fraud? Or, no (i.e. 2 of 15,000) fraud/questionable? Pick one.”

I doubt he even knows they did an audit. He’s too busy being the “Karen” here.

320Busdriver said...

Well here is a possible answer to the PA vote count question I asked above.

https://wjactv.com/news/local/dept-of-state-republicans-election-claims-are-repeatedly-debunked-conspiracy-theories

We are unclear as to what data the legislators used for this most recent “analysis.” But the only way to determine the number of voters who voted in November from the SURE system is through the vote histories,” Murren said. “At this time, there are still a few counties that have not completed uploading their vote histories to the SURE system. These counties, which include Philadelphia, Allegheny, Butler and Cambria, would account for a significant number of voters. The numbers certified by the counties, not the uploading of voter histories into the SURE system, determines the ultimate certification of an election by the secretary.”

Now they know exactly how many voters they need to “find” to match the number of votes. Convenient.

Mike of Snoqualmie said...

"[CNN] doth protest too much, me thinks." - Thanks to the Bard.

If the election was on the up & up in the swing states, why did the Democrats conduct it opaquely? They:

- Ejected Republican observers from polling places and counting centers.
- Kept said observers too far away to conduct meaningful oversight.
- Papered over observation windows
- Said they were shutting down counting for the night at 10:30 p.m. 10:30 p.m.! The night was still young for an election night. After everyone has gone home, they continue counting and manage accumulate ~150,000 vote drops during the early morning hours of November 4. How does one count ~150,000 votes when one is not counting at all? Must be a Schrodinger ballot drop - it exists and doesn't exist at the same time.
- Fulton County, GA has 94% vote counting error rate! Talk about miserable failures.

But allegations of election fraud are baseless. As Marc Antony in Julius Ceaser repeatedly said about Brutus: "And Brutus is an honorable man."

n.n said...

But allegations of election fraud are baseless

An urban denial of civil rights... but Americans have no standing.

"And Brutus is an honorable man."

In his mind he is forward-looking and wicked solutions are tolerable... nay, normal, even good.

tcrosse said...

This must be a big deal because it mustered the trolls.

Sprezzatura said...

Mike of Sno,

Four Season Total Landscaping level jabber and talking points turns out to be complete shit when the reality of R and DJT selected judges are asking for real evidence.

That must be because they R and DJT selected judges are part of the deep state. Presumably they, like HRC are into child pedo and cannibalism re eating children.

Oh, and they’re also commies that hate ‘Murcia. We’re talking about them being CCP commies. But not the CCCP-legacy thugs, cause those folks are (like DJT) the victims of D (and other pedo cannibal folks’) slander jabber.

Michael K said...

If Loeffler was as ultimately unpopular as Luther Strange had been then it would be Warnock vs Doug Collins. Collins was not a flawed candidate of limited popularity the way Roy Moore was.

I don't know how popular she is but my wife immediately described her as an airhead. I don't watch TV or do Twitter so my source of info is limited but Collins might have been a much better candidate. Mo Brooks certainly would have been than Strange.

Brooks was a conservative House leader, hence McConnell (and the trolls') hostility to him.

Inga said...

“Presumably they, like HRC are into child pedo and cannibalism re eating children.”

I used to tell my grand babies they were cute enough to eat.

Sprezzatura said...

DJT wasn’t born in a manger.

Still, a savior with fully dedicated followers.

Cool.

Michael K said...

Troll Sprez sounds more and more like ex-troll PB&J.

Sprezzatura said...

And, quite a different message for followers.

The opposite message?

Sprezzatura said...

Doc Mike,

As soon as I mention my huge cock, you’ll have all the evidence.

Michael K said...

Do they vote with the Dems to endorse the cheating, thereby guaranteeing a primary challenge next time around, or do their vote for their party and their constituents?

Well, we know what the trolls choose. They have told us. Constituents are deplorable. Who cares about them ? At least until the next election.

Michael K said...

Trolls working overtime. Does China pay by the post or the hour?

Clayton Hennesey said...

Keep in mind that an election may be pristinely without fraud while simultaneously being illegal and unconstitutional (if it's unconstitutional, it's automatically illegal):

"Where we see abundant evidence that America has entered a post-legal era is in the battleground states of the 2020 federal elections. Laws and even constitutions were ignored and superseded. The prime example is Pennsylvania. Act 77, the law that legalized mail-in voting in Pennsylvania, violated the state's own constitution. And then PA's own Supreme Court violated the U.S. Constitution by usurping the power of the state's Legislature. If that's all true, then the election in the Keystone State was illegal. So how can Congress accept the votes of Pennsylvania's electors on January 6?"

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/12/tainted_electors_in_postlegal_america.html

So are we accepting, certifying, and counting illegal elections and electors now?

On what basis? Might makes right? Can anybody play? On what basis would you expect to stop them if they choose to? Judges pounding wooden mallets?

Be careful what you wish for when you explicitly set the rule of law aside. There might be more people eager to play by the alternate rules you loose than you think.

Sprezzatura said...

“Does China pay by the post or the hour?”

China is by the hour.

Soros is by the post/comment.

Don’t tell them but I bill both for the same output.

Natch!

Big Mike said...

@Dr. Michael K., is Kelly Loeffler an airhead, or is your wife reacting to her long, blonde hair? At any rate, whether she wins or loses, both Loeffler and Collins need a spell in the wood shed for forgetting about the Eleventh Commandment.

The Godfather said...

Let's do what Prof. Althouse (I assume) would have called a hypothetical exercise when she was still teaching law. Suppose Sen. Hawley challenges the reported results from his State and presents the evidence for why he's doing so. It's substantial (if still controverted) evidence. So the objections are no longer "basesless" or "a conspiracy theory". Then others, from other States, come forward with evidence to challenge the reported results in their States. So their objections are not "basesless" or "a conspiracy theory".

What would Joe and Jane America think? If they get their news from CNN or ABC or any number of conventional sources, they have been told forever that claims like these are "baseless" "conspiracy theories"; they haven't been told that there's substantial (but contested) evidence of misconduct in vote counting in a number of States. Who will they believe? What will happen to the citizens' trust in the outcome of elections?

Old and slow said...

Blogger Fandor said...

However, the country will be turned on it's head soon after.
The times ahead will not be dull, normal, as Althouse and her ilk prefer.

I hope you are right. I suspect that you are wrong. Few are willing to upset their comfortable existence. The right end of the political spectrum is not insane, and as they say in prison, "crazy beats strong".

FullMoon said...

G.P. posts lots of fraud and cheating info. Not all of it is legit but quite a lot seems worthy of investigation.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/

Browndog said...

It's been several days, but it was rumored that Tommy Tubberville was going to object.

Then, McConnell sent him a letter.

If Cruz, Paul, and others don't stand with him so he's not singled out, I'll be very disappointed.

Men of principle, so they say. Odd, I could blow off half my hand and still count the number of principled republicans on that hand.

Fandor said...

Give people something worth fighting for and they might surprise you.

Fandor said...

Even if a third of the seventy four million, who voted for Trump, stood up on their hind legs and said, "ENOUGH"to the rotten political class, high tech and media, who have stolen our election, WHAT would that look like?

Hercules, not that one though said...

What is the answer for the coming year? Brazen, in your face voter fraud has created this new game. Democrats used to be discrete in their voter fraud. This year they faced an existential crisis and could not afford discretion. They realized that nobody wanted them.

The news media declared that 'Democracy dies in darkness'.

Who knew that was an instruction? Blanket the people in darkness. Silence opposing views. This is not a new thing. Innocents think it cannot happen here. It's human nature.

We innocently send Trillions of dollars to one city, that rules us. Washington, DC. That city attracts the Swalwells, Pelosis, McConnells, McCarthys, Ryans, on and on.

They either come sniffing the wealth, or become intoxicated by the wealth that is at their fingertips. What would you do? Are you so pure in heart, that you would resist?

There are those who want to try to play by the rules. There are others who believe the 'end justifies the means.'

We are irreconcilable.

What is the answer for the coming year? No rules. We'll tire each other out killing each other, and make some new rules.

Drago said...

steve uhr: "Is that surprising? Most Biden supporters believe there wasn't significant fraud. Most Trump supporters believe there was significant voter fraud. So what's your point?"

Morgan Freeman Narrator Voice: Interestingly, to this very day, steve uhr passionately believes Donald Trump colluded with russia, raped women, laundered russian oligarch cash and paid hookers in Moscow to pee on beds.

Sprezzatura said...

“If Cruz, Paul, and others don't stand with him so he's not singled out, I'll be very disappointed.

Men of principle, so they say. “

Standing w/ Hawley is still being disloyal to DJT. Mo Brooks is fighting for all six of the states where the Ds (and deep state Rs (like in GA)) did the fraud Rudy/Sidney/Lin/TheInternet told us about (outside of a court where evidence is required).

Any Senator that doesn’t vote w/ Mo re all six states is an unprincipled traitor to DJT. If Rs in the Senate and House don’t vote to overturn this election and reelect DJT, they are unprincipled and unDJTian, which is the same as being un-Real-American, which is the same as being un-American, which is the same as being a pedo that eats children. Q.

Duh.

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Michael K said...

If Loeffler was as ultimately unpopular as Luther Strange had been then it would be Warnock vs Doug Collins. Collins was not a flawed candidate of limited popularity the way Roy Moore was.

I don't know how popular she is but my wife immediately described her as an airhead. I don't watch TV or do Twitter so my source of info is limited but Collins might have been a much better candidate. Mo Brooks certainly would have been than Strange.

Brooks was a conservative House leader, hence McConnell (and the trolls') hostility to him.

Michael K said...

I have not gotten answer from troll Sprazz. Do the nChinese pay by the post or by the hour. You seem to be earning your pay. I can't imagine posting such nonsense for free.

Drago said...

I do find it somewhat amusing that establishment republicans who knowingly allowed the democraticals to conduct industrial scale cheating to get rid of OrangeManBad really do seem to believe that they can now put the cork back into the Incredible Democratical Electoral Fraud Bottle.

Very similar to Barr's clear saving of the corrupt DOJ/FBI/CIA institutions based no doubt on many, many, behind the scenes handshakes and winks with the democraticals and their LLR henchmen that complete weaponization of our government against political candidates and elected Presidents will never happen again.

Fandor said...

Remember when OBAMA arrogantly said to the bankers and other money men, "I'm all that standing between you and the pitchforks"?
Now, it's TRUMP who is standing between the looters and the patriots.
WHO will prevail?
We'll know soon enough who wins the battle.
The WAR is another matter.

Sprezzatura said...

Drago,

DJT openly asked for Russian help with stolen info re helping his election. His kid got all excited about getting dirt from a Russian operative re a meeting at Trump Tower. Which resulted in DJT making up a lie re what happened.

And, the Russians timed opo-dumps exactly when the Access Hollywood tapes come out.

No speculation required. None of this is in doubt.

Michael K said...

Blogger Big Mike said...
@Dr. Michael K., is Kelly Loeffler an airhead, or is your wife reacting to her long, blonde hair?


My wife is a blond and, of course, my first wife concluded she is an airhead. That was 40 years ago, though.

What do you think ?

Iman said...

Inga said... I used to tell my grand babies they were cute enough to eat.

I bet you did. Right before you dumped their lifeless little bodies into the cold, dark waters of the lake...

Just kiddin’... can’t pass up a hanging curveball!

Michael K said...

No speculation required. None of this is in doubt.

I assume you know Congressman pencil neck well. You mentioned your cock size. Is that related ?

narciso said...

the hunger games are no mere allegory, but an aspiration,

in other news, there was a bombing in aden today, involving members of the new government who had arrived from the kingdom, as I point out in my novella, there was a similar incident in 1963, that touched off the emergency,

Michael K said...

Soros is by the post/comment.

I don't believe you. Soros is doing too well with crazy DAs to pay a twerp like you.

narciso said...

they do seem intent on cutting their own throats, mark levin recalls when they sent two special prosecutors after his boss, ed meese, they found gornisch, but he was deemed unacceptable to the Republican establishment, for a decade,

Sprezzatura said...

I don’t know what “pencil neck” means.

I would guess that it’s someone like “The Situation.”. He works out but his neck is very small and weak.

Maybe it refers to nerds. Like people who read.

I dunno.

Wince said...

A Simple Test for the Extent of Vote Fraud with Absentee Ballots in the 2020 Presidential Election: Georgia and Pennsylvania Data

John R. Lott
US Department of Justice
25 Pages Posted: 29 Dec 2020 Last revised: 30 Dec 2020

The best estimate shows an unusual 7.81% drop in Trump’s percentage of the absentee ballots for Fulton County alone of 11,350 votes, or over 80% of Biden’s vote lead in Georgia. The same approach is applied to Allegheny County in Pennsylvania for both absentee and provisional ballots. The estimated number of fraudulent votes from those two sources is about 55,270 votes.

Second, vote fraud can increase voter turnout rate. Increased fraud can take many forms: higher rates of filling out absentee ballots for people who hadn’t voted, dead people voting, ineligible people voting, or even payments to legally registered people for their votes. However, the increase might not be as large as the fraud if votes for opposing candidates are either lost, destroyed, or replaced with ballots filled out for the other candidate. The estimates here indicate that there were 70,000 to 79,000 “excess” votes in Georgia and Pennsylvania. Adding Arizona, Michigan, Nevada, and Wisconsin, the total increases to up to 289,000 excess votes.

narciso said...


he must really afraid gascon will pinkslip him

http://patterico.com/2020/12/30/sen-hawley-plans-to-object-to-electoral-college-vote-certifying-biden-win/#comment-2481579

the new yorker, btw has put a hagiography to anthony weiner,

Browndog said...

Sprezzatura said...

I don’t know what “pencil neck” means.


You would if you've ever been in a high school locker room.

Robert Cook said...

"'Sprezzatura said...

'I don’t know what "pencil neck" means.'


"You would if you've ever been in a high school locker room."


I was in locker rooms in both junior and senior high school, and I never heard anyone ever use the term "pencil neck." I know what it means, but I've never heard it used in real life anywhere.

Wince said...

Lott addresses Bill Barr and the judicial catch-22.

Courts have frequently rejected Republican challenges to the 2020 presidential vote because they want evidence that a case involves enough fraud to alter the vote’s outcome in a particular state. Republicans argue that since their observers couldn’t watch the vote count, they can’t provide that evidence and have asked for discovery. Still, while the courts have agreed that irregularities have occurred, they weren’t willing to grant discovery unless Republicans first present enough evidence of fraud to overturn the election. Republicans thus faced a kind of Catch 22.

This paper’s approach allows us to quantify how large a potential problem vote fraud and other abnormalities might be in the 2020 election. The process is applicable to other states where precinct-level data is available on voting by absentee and in-person voting.

Fandor said...

Some fellow on President Trump's Tweets , a certain MATT GANZAK, just wrote,"(Trump)If you win this election, Biden's voters will roll over in their graves."
Ain't it the TRUTH!

Big Mike said...
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Balfegor said...

I wish Republican leaders would distinguish between credible electoral fraud allegations (e.g. ballot harvesting enabling selective ballot counting, relaxation of voter authentication controls enabling fraudulent mail-in ballots), and the barmier allegations (e.g. the Dominion/Diebold voting-machines-are-rigged stuff, which is the kind of thing hand recounts would have caught). I have not got the sense they have, although to be fair, I am
mostly hearing their claims through the filter of journalists who are mentally incapable of considering vote fraud allegations dispassionately.

I would guess that from Trump's perspective, this is at least as much about making sure he poisons Biden's well as thoroughly as Obama and Clinton poisoned his as it is about genuine belief in vote fraud, but Republicans should be staking out clear standards on voter authentication, ballot custody, and observer access.

Sprezzatura said...

“mark levin recalls when......”

It’s so hard to listen to him.

He repeats himself a ton. He repeats himself a ton.

Did you see what I did there? He doubles sentences a lot. Over and over and over and so on, times a billion.

IMHO, that’s terrible radio. Total filler BS.

Plus, when you see him you realize that he’s really fat. Not that that matters re his POV, but he’s glutton. That can’t be great.

Clayton Hennesey said...

Fandor said...

" Even if a third of the seventy four million, who voted for Trump, stood up on their hind legs and said, "ENOUGH"to the rotten political class, high tech and media, who have stolen our election, WHAT would that look like?"

Fandor asks two questions in one: how spectacular would that be, and what procedures would be involved to produce that spectacle.

The procedure would be civil war: viewing those mentioned as enemies, no longer fellow Americans.

Civil war can take many forms, not all necessarily violent. The overriding concept is to make the enemy's life unlivable. Currently this is known as "cancel culture" and is perpetrated exclusively by the Left against the Right.

Such exclusivity is entirely unnecessary: the Right can just as easily wage cancel war against the Left.

This would not involve anything as silly as trying to deplatform Mark Zuckerberg; it might very well involve rendering Mark Zuckerberg unable to employ anyone other than his wife.

And, again, violence need not at all play any role in R-->L cancel culture, any more than it does in L-->R. The process involves keeping the target so busy with other life engagements that he is rendered harmless as a threat against you. Permanently seeking employment is one such timesink; there are many others, e.g., permanently seeking daycare. Desperately trying to acquire new friends and other social connections. Let me stress again: none of this activity need be violent or even illegal.

But it does require a determined collective will.

The overarching hubris over the course of 2020 in removing individuals' abilities to speak freely, to earn a living, and above all to peaceably vote in fair, legal elections as a nonviolent improvement over historical alternatives oughta do it.

The process may well have already started, like a long fuse. We'll just have to see about the spectacle.

Hercules, not that one though said...

The folks in Congress are not our leaders. They were never meant to be. The Representatives were supposed to...represent us. Not beg for us. We have City Councils, if we are beggars.

Our Senators were supposed to represent our State, to mitigate the incursions that this Federal Government might undertake.

It worked for awhile. This Federal System, constrained by the Bill of Rights, was a masterpiece of Man being informed by God.

Here's the good news. There is not a single child in this country who is hungry.

Well meaning charities now have to talk about being 'food insecure'.

So...we've got that going for us.

narciso said...

what ties weiner and those events in the peninsula together


http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=abdullah_omar_naseef_1

Browndog said...

Sprezzatura said...

Drago,

DJT openly asked for Russian help with stolen info re helping his election. His kid got all excited about getting dirt from a Russian operative re a meeting at Trump Tower. Which resulted in DJT making up a lie re what happened.

And, the Russians timed opo-dumps exactly when the Access Hollywood tapes come out.

No speculation required. None of this is in doubt.


Now I see. You are a pencil neck. Stupid to boot.

Fuck you, and all like you that think they "think". No quarter from me, normally given to Althouse commentariate, for that utterly...STUPID thought...let alone publish it for all the world to see.

BUMBLE BEE said...

HEY JP.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erAYITZRdJk

Wince said...

Sprezzatura said...
I don’t know what “pencil neck” means.

"Pencil Neck Geek" was #1 for 21 weeks on Dr. Jill, er, Dr. Demento in 1977.

Classy Freddy Blassie's Pencil Neck Geek

Sprezzatura said...

“I have not got the sense they have, although to be fair, I am
mostly hearing their claims through the filter of journalists who are mentally incapable of considering vote fraud allegations dispassionately.”

Here’s an idea: read what DJT and R selected judges are saying re that the fraud allegations (i.e. not just re standing and technicalities) are shit.

And, how about reading about the hand counting and auditing of signatures and every other review that would suss out the fraud that you still think has not be disproved?

At some point it gets hard to wave your hands and say “golly the MSM makes this foggy so my sense is that I can’t figure what’s what” and at the same time you still want to claim to be a human w/ a brain that is bound by logic.

Choose: DJT conman cult or reality? IOW Are you a child?

Browndog said...

Sprezzatura said...

Buh-bye, Alice.

You're done here.

Wince said...

Mom said, "Sell it to the circus, what the heck."
Dad said, "Nope, this one's a pencil neck
And if there's one thing lower than a side show freak
It's a grit eatin', scum suckin', pencil neck geek."

You see if you take a pencil that won't hold lead
Looks like a pipe cleaner atached to a head
Add a buggy whip body with a brain that leaks
You got yourself a grit eatin', pencil neck geek

(Chorus)
Pencil neck geek, grit eatin' freak
Scum suckin', pea head with a lousy physique
He's a one man, no gut, losing streak
Nothin' but a pencil neck geek

Soon the geeks were poppin' up all over town
You couldn't hardly sneeze without knockin' one down
After a nice juicy steak, if you need a toothpick
Just reach for a geek, they'll do the trick...

(Chorus)
Most any night you know where I can be found
Yeah, stomping some geek's head into the ground
So keep the faith 'cause in Blassie you can trust
I won't give up 'til the last geek bites the dust

They say, "these geeks come a dime a dozen."
I'm lookin' for the guy who's supplin' the dimes
Its gonna be real hard times for all of these
Grit eatin'
Scum suckin'
Boot lickin'
Drop kickin'
Gut grindin'
Nail bitin'
Glue sniffin'
Scab pickin'
Butt scratchin'
Egg hatchin'
Sleezy
Smelly
Pepper bellied
Dirty, lousy, rotten, stinkin', freaks
Nothing but a pencil neck geek

narciso said...

said 'russian' operative, worked for fusion gps, the same people behind the danchenko dossier, which was sourced from a suspected russian spy, great job all, that's like the nazis double agents that kim philby pawned off on angleton,

Sprezzatura said...

Thanks Wince,

That video was awesome. That makes the connection.

Some super-fat slob oozing over a chair as he read tough talk at a snail’s pace.

And there was some dude occasionally holding up a cue card to try to get the audience to join in on the chorus. But, (according to the recording) everybody ignores that request and the pig-human goes it alone.

P.S.
You shouldn’t be so mean to Doc Mike.

narciso said...

one should be lucky he was a mostly incompetent bomber


https://meaninginhistory.blogspot.com/2020/12/briefly-noted-what-would-less-heroic.html

like the pulse shooter, who's father was a fbi asset, and kept conveniently off the radar, and hence his riyadh al salih, 'black widow' bomber, could not be prosecuted,

narciso said...

at what part can any aspect of our security services be considered competent, cisa gave solar wind a clean bill of health, yet it had been active for months,

Michael K said...

I have to say that the trolls have accomplished one thing. Every post seems to have 300 comments. Back the good mold days when Ritmo posted half of them.

The Gipper Lives said...

MNN BREAKING NEWS...In a stunning development, investigators were able to hack into the Georgia voting system in real time only to find that the actual winner of the Presidential Race with 59% of the vote was Hugo Chavez of Venezuela.

Interestingly, in the Senate races, the late dictator was beating Sen. Loeffler with 59% of the vote and also beating Sen. Perdue by 59%

Sec. of State Raffensperger pledged to ratify the results "rapidamente".

Manufactured News Network: "Hey, If They Can Manufacture Votes All Night, We Can Manufacture the News All Day!"

Inga said...

“I have to say that the trolls have accomplished one thing. Every post seems to have 300 comments. Back the good mold days when Ritmo posted half of them.”

18 comments thus far by Michael K.

Clark said...

Sprezzatura is whichever troll that was that used to say "anywho" all the time.

FullMoon said...

Back the good mold days when Ritmo posted half of them.”



HOW TO SUMMON A DEMON;

While visualizing, recite, or chant the name of the Demon repeatedly either in your mind or aloud (or in comments daily).

https://blackwitchcoven.com/how-to-learn-black-magick/advanced-black-magick/how-to-summon-demons/

FullMoon said...

Sprezzatura is whichever troll that was that used to say "anywho" all the time.
No shit?
I dunno

Qwinn said...

Balfegor, with over 3 weeks between the election and the first audit, three weeks in which they knew from day one how many ballots they'd need to jive with the Dominion numbers, 3 weeks with no signature verification, ballot barcodes (deliberately removed by the complicit PA governor), conservative observers, non-complicit election officials or chain of custody, what gives you the *slightest* confidence that an audit wouldn't conveniently reveal exactly as many ballots as what Dominion spit out? What mechanism in all that prevents hundreds of thousands of ballots being thrown into the mix to match the Dominion numbers?

Sprezzatura said...

“18 comments thus far by Michael K.”

True. And some of them were representative of why he’s so cool to read.

Still, I’m hoping for my favorite from him,

When will he tell us that he’s going to sleep?

If everyone here announced that they were ready for sleepy time, it’d be horrible.

But, when only our special Doc is doing it, it’s endearing.

IMHO.

BTW, I bet that he’ll tell us it’s lights out in two hours, thirty four minutes and twelve seconds.

Mark said...

Doc Mike, having spent his day commenting here, tries to throw shade.

Hilarious. Keep pretending not to care, Mikey.

Browndog said...

Sprezzatura said...

Still at it, fuckhead?

Kirk Parker said...

Mike Sylvester @ 2:32pm,

You've lived through mid-level apparatchik Vindman thinking his foreign policy preferences overrode the president's -- It shouldn't be too hard to understand that Google might think their views take precedence over Congress'.

Sprezzatura said...

“Doc Mike, having spent his day commenting here, tries to throw shade.

Hilarious. Keep pretending not to care, Mikey.”

He wouldn’t need to be here so much if more folks paid attention to his blog.

The poor guy had a post not too long ago and only one person commented.

And that was him commenting on his own blog!

Yikes!!

narciso said...

another instance, was the fact that two deep penetrations by the chinese, and russian security services, mr chang, (lne) who had been an fbi translator, having been debriefed by chinese intelligence in 2001, as with peter dobbins, who proselytized for the svr, under the nose of kent andews, halper and dearlove, while they had been chasing general flynn like a foxhound,

so films like spy, and central intelligence, reveal the optimum view of american intelligence,

Temujin said...

"...baseless conspiracy theories..."

This coming from the people who went 24/7 on a fictional Russia Collusion case, fed 'leaks' of false information that they ran with gleefully. The people who helped toss hand grenades at Justice Kavanaugh during that freak show of a trial, giving, not only airtime to Michael Avenatti and his parade of liars, but heaping praise on him- not for the truth, but for dumping more crap on President Trump. The people who sat on and refused to report on the Hunter Biden/Joe Biden crime family operation, even when his own emails showed their guilt.

These people spend 24/7 destroying the truth. And they want us to take their word on this that it's a baseless theory. I still cannot get past Joe Biden pulling in more votes than Barack Obama ever did and more than Trump did- all after a year of sitting in his basement. Does anybody actually think 80 million people voted for Joe Biden when he couldn't pull 35 to come out and see him speak in public going into the election?

No one is buying it. And that's going to be a problem.

I'm Full of Soup said...


Yes very convenient excuse by PA. Almost two months after the election and PA can not yet identify the name of 3% of its votes.

I'm Full of Soup said...

And Trump lost in PA by what 1.3%?

Marcus Bressler said...

Why is Chuck still here?

Sprezzatura said...

Isn’t it getting late for our golden-years hosts in Madtown?

When will we get the open thread so we can do Tina Louise v Dawn Wells comparisons?

I gots thots.

Marcus Bressler said...

Sprezzatura said that he has never heard the term "pencil neck geek." I call BS. Adam Schiff has been referred by that sobriquet (see what I did there, wink wink) since prior to the impeachment hearings. Unless Sp only devours CNN, MSNBC, WashPost, the NYTimes and the like

THEOLDMAN

Michael K said...

The poor guy had a post not too long ago and only one person commented.

The really malignant trolls, like Ritmo and the trolls from lefty blogs I used to read and comment, go to the personal blog in order to find personal information to use to harass. I don't give a shit for you creeps. I am long retired. You can't touch me.

I don't much use my personal blog except to store info. You are still ignorant and a creep but go ahead. Typical of the really malignant leftists.

Michael K said...

Blogger Mark said...
Doc Mike, having spent his day commenting here, tries to throw shade.

Hilarious. Keep pretending not to care, Mikey.


Lefty Mark, trying to get a rise ? I don't know what you are talking about but that is nothing new.

Sprezzatura said...

Marcus,

I wrote that I didn’t know what it meant.

Not that I’d never heard it. The context where I’d previously heard it didn’t prep me to understand how Doc Mike was tying the terminology to dick size. I assumed that olden days people had a broader, less literal definition than I had previously sussed out.

OTOH, I suppose it’s possible that Doc Mike was typing stuff that made no sense.

Imagine that.

Gospace said...

YoungHegelian said...
for Trump's baseless conspiracy theories claiming the election was stolen from him

After all the stuff we've been through in the past 12 years, of things that were just right-wing conspiracy theories until, well, they turned out to be true (IRS being used to stymie right-wing activism, Trump transition team being "wiretapped", Hunter Biden's "hacked" laptop as Russian dis-info, etc), I really wonder if the folks at CNN would like to bet anything of value on the "baseless" statement that the 2020 election was on the Up & Up.


Let's go back further- the right wing conspiracy that required a stained blue dress before it was believed.

Sprezzatura said...

BTW Doc,

Not too long ago I was re-reading your proposal for geezers from 1995. That’s when I saw the post.

It had been many years since I first read it, and I remembered it being coherent and containing some good points. I wanted to remind myself of that version of Doc Mike. Not that I’m saying you’ve lost a step or two. That would be mean.

Sprezzatura said...

“Let's go back further- the right wing conspiracy that required a stained blue dress before it was believed.”

That’s an excellent idea. Think about the folks behind that.

Go and see what Jonah Goldberg is saying about DJT now.

And then, report back to us what a true conservative who is not controlled by a conman has to say today. We’re on pins and needles waiting for whatever it is that you will discover.

Thnx.

cfs said...

When anyone says something to me regarding "baseless" claims of fraud. I ask if they have watched this video at Epoch Times.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/2020-election-investigation-who-is-stealing-america_3617562.html

If they say "no", I ask them to view it and then get back to me and explain away all the evidence presented in the video. As of yet, no one has gotten back to me with a response on the video. They simply continue with the "baseless" claims. As a matter of fact, several of those people now will not respond to me at all. Not even my eldest sister (a big Hillary supporter). She thinks me, our mother, and 3 other sisters are all crazy because we are Trump supporters and she is the only sane one. This is a sister that has been unemployed and on disability for 40 years due to "dependency issues".

If we want to see a concise report of the fraud, watch the video.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

Hackers have announced that they've broken in to GA Dominion voting systems for teh Senate runoff.

I hope that white hat hackers are trying to break into every single county's machines and hack them. I hope that next Tuesday night, while Congress is being slowed down and forced to deliberate about the EC results, the GA Senate runoff results start coming back, and they come back clearly hacked.

GOP candidates with 10x as many votes in a county as registered voters.

Heck, give Trump 10 million write-in votes.

Make the liars and frauds trying to pretend that Biden won honestly, have to watch hacked results coming back.

Do it in a real world vote, not a test.

We really need a national example

Readering said...

I sympathize with AA regarding posts like today's LGBT, but also scratch my head since most of the comments I have read on her blog have been like this stuff.

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

Josh Hawley is awesome.

speaks truths and stands up to the corrupt liar greedy left.

FullMoon said...

Hackers have announced that they've broken in to GA Dominion voting systems for teh Senate runoff.

If true, and they can manipulate votes,they should not have announced it.

Francisco D said...

Michael K said... I don't give a shit for you creeps. I am long retired. You can't touch me.

I am pretty much in the same boat, but don't have the energy to read troll scat. What is the point in debating a moron like Inga or a psychopath like Chuck? Howard and readering are not much better considering that their motives are to annoy and not to edify.

I sincerely enjoy Cookie because he reminds me of my beloved pinko godmother, a very important person in my life. The other bete noir of this site appears to be Farmer. He is right much more often than not, but he enjoys the argument too much for my taste. It seems to be his way of working through his personal demons. My methods are different.

daskol said...

He twitter fought with Walmart, and didn't beclown himself. Taken with this move, that would qualify him as among the better of our elite in a typical 2021 style scrap.

daskol said...

But does he deadlift?

Mark said...

cfs, we are just following Ann's example and ignoring it like the majority of Americans.

Telling someone to watch a video is like telling them to check out your MySpace page. No one is willing to run when you yell squirrel. If you have such great facts, write them the fuck down like people have done thru history. JFC

n.n said...

If true, and they can manipulate votes,they should not have announced it.

White hats?

Bruce Hayden said...

“DJT openly asked for Russian help with stolen info re helping his election. His kid got all excited about getting dirt from a Russian operative re a meeting at Trump Tower. Which resulted in DJT making up a lie re what happened.”

“And, the Russians timed opo-dumps exactly when the Access Hollywood tapes come out.”

“No speculation required. None of this is in doubt.”

None of it is in doubt, because it is all false. Typical Prog/ChiCom propaganda tactics - almost seemingly true, but blatantly false. Every one of the regulars can, no doubt, readily detects and sees the falsehoods, but just to remind those who haven’t been:

The supposed request for Russian help was a joke, that Progs pretend to be too stupid to understand or recognize. To set the stage - Crooked Hillary had been caught with 60k work related emails illegally on her private email server, and illegally not on State Department servers. As she had been the primary classifier for the State Department for four years, many of the emails were classified at some level, and several at some of the highest levels, thereby also violating the Espionage Act. Congress subpoenaed the emails, and her lawyers had responded by illegally having half of them deleted. Then FBI Director Comey had openly covered for her, telling the American people that the laws, as written didn’t really apply to her somehow, over 100k federal crimes were swept under the carpet by the Obama/Lynch DOJ, after her husband had met secretly at the Phoenix airport with AG Lynch. The fix was in, and it was blatant.

It turns out that no only had Clinton illegally placed highly classified emails on her private email server, they had failed to keep the security patches to the server up to date. This was esp dangerous because everyone knew that she dealt with highly classified information, she also traveled extensively, which meant that the air through which her highly classified information was transmitted to her server was very often under control of foreign governments. Intelligence services, as well as hackers, around the world were, no doubt, trying to hack her, every time she left the country. And, as we ultimately found out, at least the ChiComs had been successful. They had installed code on her server that forwarded all her email to them in real time. So, in late June of 2016, the US government didn’t have her illegally deleted 30k emails, but very likely several foreign intelligence services did, including Russia, China, and Israel. To highlight this, Trump asked Russia to give them to us. It was a joke. And they never did.

The “opo dump” was presumably the Wikileaks dump of the hacked DNC emails. There never was any evidence that there was any connection between the Trump campaign and the Wikileaks dump, nor connection with the Russians. The corrupt CIA and FBI claimed, with no real evidence that there was evidence that the Russians did it, but, again, they never touched the email servers. It quickly came out that it almost had to have been an inside job - likely a disgruntled Bernie Bro working for the DNC. This was effectively confirmed by Julian Assange, Wikileaks founder. Mueller’s highly partisan prosecutors spent much of their time, budget, and effort trying to tie the Trump campaign to Assange and Wikileaks, and failed.

Oh, and it turns out that the real Russian collusion was with the Clinton campaign, setting up the Steele Dossier, a combination of Clinton “opo research” and Russian disinformation, as a fake intelligence product, to launch the long running investigation into Trump/Russian collusion.

Bruce Hayden said...

“Does China pay by the post or the hour?”

“China is by the hour.”

“Soros is by the post/comment.”

“Don’t tell them but I bill both for the same output.”

I would have expected the ChiComs to be paying by the post/comment, having learned from the Soviets that paying by the hour resulted in almost no output. Moreover the fact that they abjectly refused to provide a single link for their false claims strongly suggests payment by the post/comment.

The funny thing there is that we seemed to pick up Inga during the spring/summer of 2016, when we were getting hit around the clock here by teams of Clinton funded trolls. Most had no real profiles, and fairly new accounts. They all disappeared by early fall, when the money seemingly ran out for trolling. And the only one of the presumed trolls left was Inga. And by now, we know that she really never was a troll, just a bit misguided. Okay, often major misguided.

The reason that I mentioned her, is that she does provide us with links. Indeed, she has the interesting habit of turning her entire comment into a single HTML link. Call it her signature. Of course, as someone above pointed out, her links often don’t say what she claims they say. But that just makes her more unique.

Bruce Hayden said...

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