Althouse: Freezing up.

December 18, 2020

Freezing up.

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Churchy LaFemme: said...: The antidote.; 12/18/20, 11:52 AM
wild chicken said...: At the housing development next to us, a bunch of guys got together and built a temporary skating rink. Kids are going crazy on it. What fun.

Nice when there are dads around to do this stuff.; 12/18/20, 12:01 PM
Big Mike said...: @Althouse, I guessed “The Running Man” or (second choice “Commando” for movie #1). Amirite?; 12/18/20, 12:04 PM
Humperdink said...: My pond record is 14” of ice thickness.; 12/18/20, 12:23 PM
narciso said...: https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/420950/#disqus_thread; 12/18/20, 12:33 PM
narciso said...: Seems the bureau was focused on going after fox. And not more importamt measures; 12/18/20, 12:34 PM
Howard said...: Just got back from snowshoeing around the local frozen pond.; 12/18/20, 12:38 PM
Ann Althouse said...: The answers on the movie puzzle were revealed in the comments — "The Terminator" and "The Professor and the Madman."; 12/18/20, 12:43 PM
Howard said...: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Struggle:_The_Life_and_Lost_Art_of_Szukalski

Interesting documentary produced by Leonardo DiCaprio.

The documentary tells the story of the Polish artist Stanislav Szukalski’s troubled life and complicated body of work. He created his own language, and is a self-taught sculptor, who once lost all his work in a Nazi raid bombing.; 12/18/20, 12:44 PM
narciso said...: Oh
https://mobile.twitter.com/GadiTaub1/status/1339962948870168577; 12/18/20, 12:45 PM
narciso said...: Thats thid guy

https://mobile.twitter.com/mattduss/status/1217611690973585411?lang=en

And the mullahs spokesmen; 12/18/20, 12:50 PM
narciso said...: Here we go again:

https://mobile.twitter.com/jasonrantz/status/1339921568273551362; 12/18/20, 12:56 PM
Yancey Ward said...: "The Terminator" is a truly great film- holds up really well even 36 years later. I saw at The Kentucky Theater in Lexington, KY several times in the Fall of 1984 during my freshman year in college- all of my friends were fanatics for the movie, too.

The other movie that Schwarzenegger was in that is truly great other than the first Cameron Terminator installments is "Predator". However, "Commando" is recommended just for the dark comedy lines it contains, such as, "What did you do with Sully?" answer- "I let him go."; 12/18/20, 12:58 PM
Robert Cook said...: "Interesting documentary produced by Leonardo DiCaprio."

I've been a fan of Szukalski's art since 1981, when Robert Crumb published several pages of Szukalski's striking artwork in the inaugural issue of WEIRDO, a magazine of odd comics founded,edited by, and including the work of the great Crumb. I purchased the two books of his work available at the time, and have acquired a couple of other more recently published books with better reproduction.

The documentary is fascinating.; 12/18/20, 1:00 PM
Lawrence Person said...: Szukalski was an interesting guy. Great artist and a bit of a loony crank. He's the guy The Church of the Subgenius swiped their whole half-Yeti shtick from. I have two of his books, Behold!!! The Protong and The Lost Tune.; 12/18/20, 1:06 PM
tcrosse said...: Is that tiny houseboat/ice shack still around?; 12/18/20, 1:11 PM
Howard said...: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/12/white-house-delays-pfizer-vaccine-shipments; 12/18/20, 1:16 PM
narciso said...: Two weeks ago

https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/alerts/aa20-336a; 12/18/20, 1:25 PM
Narr said...: If Hercules, ntot, is around-- I replied to your 9pm last night comment on the second sunrise thread.

Did not know about Szukalski.

Narr
Going to learn now; 12/18/20, 1:44 PM
Narr said...: I had thought about a Polish-Jewish writer and artist murdered by the Nazis, but couldn't recall his name. Bruno Schulz.

The same age as Szukalski, but never in the same circles. Imagery online.

Narr
Interesting contrasts; 12/18/20, 2:03 PM
J. Farmer said...: "The Terminator" is a truly great film- holds up really well even 36 years later. I saw at The Kentucky Theater in Lexington, KY several times in the Fall of 1984 during my freshman year in college- all of my friends were fanatics for the movie, too.

I was a huge fan of The Terminator when I was a kid. I remembers sitting next to my father in the movie theater the first time I saw the Terminator 2 teaser trailer. Even before any footage was shown, I recognized the opening chords to the theme song and excitedly turned to my father, "They're making another Terminator!" Summer 1991 seemed like an eternity away at the time. My family was staying at the beach when it was released, and my father and I saw it at a midnight showing. One of the few times a sequel surpassed the original. Like the first two Alien films, the first was a horror movie and the second an action picture.

The other movie that Schwarzenegger was in that is truly great other than the first Cameron Terminator installments is "Predator".

Agree. John McTiernan was just beginning to reinvent the action flick, which he accomplished the following year with Die Hard. I'd also add Paul Verhoeven's Total Recall

However, "Commando" is recommended just for the dark comedy lines it contains, such as, "What did you do with Sully?" answer- "I let him go."

Commando was pure 80s Schwarzenegger but with a lot of odd little details under the surface. The naked couple surprised in the adjoining motel room are recording themselves. Bennett was dressed as a gay leather fetishist.; 12/18/20, 2:14 PM
Robert Cook said...: "I had thought about a Polish-Jewish writer and artist murdered by the Nazis, but couldn't recall his name. Bruno Schulz."

I have a book of his drawings, too.; 12/18/20, 2:35 PM
Humperdink said...: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof*; or abridging the freedom of speech**, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble***, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances****.

* Except during pandemics, unless the religious organization meets at a big box store.

** Except when Big Tech, media, and a select political party collude to stifle opposition viewpoints.

*** Except in blue states with liberal governors who can suspend this right at their whim.

**** Except when the court is comprised of swamp creatures who refuse to view the evidence.; 12/18/20, 2:41 PM
Robert Cook said...: @Humperdink:

As far as I'm aware, Congress has made no laws against any part of the First amendment during the current pandemic.

Many states have issued recommendations and/or implemented temporary restrictions regarding certain types of public activities and behaviors to try to hinder the spread of COVID-19.; 12/18/20, 2:54 PM
Qwinn said...: "temporary restrictions"

Two weeks to flatten the curve!

"regarding certain types of public activities and behaviors"

Except rioting and arson in pursuit of left wing causes.

"to try to hinder the spread of COVID-19."

Sure, Cook. That's the reason.; 12/18/20, 3:11 PM
Michael K said...: Many states have issued recommendations and/or implemented temporary restrictions regarding certain types of public activities and behaviors to try to hinder the spread of COVID-19.

Yes, and they work so well that New York has more cases, by a lot, than Florida, which has more and older people.

They work so well in California than the state has half the nation's cases.

Good job, Cook. Lefties do so well governing.; 12/18/20, 3:19 PM
Humperdink said...: "As far as I'm aware, Congress has made no laws against any part of the First amendment during the current pandemic."

Well shazzam, that's true. Congress has made no laws against it, but people are being fined and /or jailed for exercising those rights, so we're cool right?; 12/18/20, 3:22 PM
Breezy said...: There’s no “except during a pandemic” clause. States have limited ability to force these lockdowns or work reductions. Temporary does not mean for a month, and then another month and then another month, ad infinitum. They should be doing as Florida is - managing things in a way that allows everyone access to their livelihoods, but with safety protocols implemented as best as possible. Govt really sucks when it picks and chooses who gets to participate. It’s especially galling when the data is not supporting the particular lockdown or stay at home rules.; 12/18/20, 3:33 PM
Narr said...: Szukalski reminded me of Schulz, which in turn had me wondering whatever happened to Anselm Kiefer? From him to Joseph Beuys of course . . .

Cook, you're OK. I rag on you some if I think you're wrong but I enjoy your posts, as a Southerner (if you don't object) who migrated North and found a place and people that suit him.

Tennessee is the national COVID-19 hotspot right now, but Shelby Co is the coolest in the state, at least if the localmediaswine understand what they are reporting.

Narr
It happens; 12/18/20, 3:41 PM
Anonymous said...: Robert Cook- "I have a book of his drawings, too."

What do you plan to do with your books, at the end?

I ask because I'm asking myself. I had a used book seller come to the house and spend hours picking at my life of books. He bought a lot, at pennies on the dollar. Still, I'm grateful they will find a home. There's so many more.

I kept a stash, hidden. When we were almost done, he asked me if I had 'Patanjali'.

It was weird. Who even knows who Pantanjali is?

I didn't even care that much about Patanjali. But, I had him. His words, anyway. It was in the hidden stash.

What to do with the rest?; 12/18/20, 3:42 PM
Readering said...: 2 federal judges in GA reject GOP lawsuits aimed at voter suppression.; 12/18/20, 3:45 PM
JML said...: 2 federal judges in GA reject GOP lawsuits aimed at suppressing fraud.

FIFY; 12/18/20, 3:48 PM
narciso said...: They are for voter fraud, whats new about that.; 12/18/20, 3:57 PM
I'm Not Sure said...: "Voter suppression" is progspeak for anything that keeps them from cheating.; 12/18/20, 3:59 PM
Readering said...: Sad trombones.; 12/18/20, 4:16 PM
Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...: Many here have debated the efficacy of masks--

Please watch this video to see how masks, with proper use, can be essential to public health; 12/18/20, 4:33 PM
Qwinn said...: The mountain of evidence that this election was stolen grows massively every. Single Fucking. Day.

MI Sec of State Official Caught On Video Telling Volunteers To Count “Multiple Ballots with the very Same Signature” During “Audit” Of Votes In Antrim County

In the video below, the SOS official can be seen demanding that the counters ignore what they believe is voter fraud and count the ballots.

“We need to do the counts because if we don’t have the counts, then we can’t move forward. And we understand that there is a concern with this precinct—but this is not a time for you to be investigating right now.”

“Did you find something else?” the male counter asks.

“No,” she replies, adding, “So, you need to move forward with the audit, so we can get the numbers, so we can see how many ballots are here.”

The female counter asks, “So when we’re done with the audit, there’s still the opportunity to challenge the fact that we have multiple ballots with the very same signature?” she asks.

“I don’t know if ‘challenge’ is the right word,” the SOS official says.

“But we’re challenging—” the volunteer says.

The male volunteer tells the SOS, “We’ll go ahead and count the ballots moving forward, but we will separate out, and count those— there’s going to be an asterisk, saying ‘these ballots have the same signature.'”

“And again, we know that you have a concern with this precinct,” she tells them, explaining, “That’s not your role at this very moment,” as she continues to push for them to ignore the multiple matching signatures and only count the ballots.

“What I need you to do right now is finish the audit,” she tells them again. Both of the volunteers explain that they are going to make a note of the ballots, to which the SOS official replies, “Again, that is not the process.”

The SOS official implores them to continue to count the presidential ballots.

At no point does the SOS official assure them that the issue of the multiple potentially fraudulent ballots will be addressed, but instead demands that they count them as if they were all legitimate ballots.; 12/18/20, 5:20 PM
mandrewa said...: New York Times publishes an article suggesting that the vaccine should not be given to the elderly first because the elderly are disproportionately white. And thus by not giving the vaccine to the elderly first this will "start to level the playing field a bit."

See NYT Article Says DONT Give Elderly Vaccine, They Are White And Should Die To Level The Playing Field; 12/18/20, 5:22 PM
Readering said...: Idiotic.; 12/18/20, 5:24 PM
J. Farmer said...: "As far as I'm aware, Congress has made no laws against any part of the First amendment during the current pandemic."

I've always found the incorporation doctrine very confusing. As I understand it, the Bill of Rights was made applicable to the states via the 14th amendment. Yet, not all of the Bill of Rights are incorporated (e.g. grand juries, jury trials).; 12/18/20, 5:33 PM
Sally327 said...: Happy end of Hanukkah everyone.

I just saw a pic of Ivanka with hubby and kids. She posted something in re Hanukkah otherwise I would not be aware.

I think it is funny that supposedly they are persona non grata in NYC except all the rich people are supposedly fleeing or have already fled that city so who is left to shun them? I also think that many of those people who are now down on Trump-Kushner were best buds with Ghislaine Maxwell. Like Chelsea Clinton. Ghislaine by the way is desperately trying to get out on bail. Too bad she isn't being held on state charges since New York has pretty much an ROR program in place for all defendants.; 12/18/20, 5:40 PM
Qwinn said...: I fucking repeat:

MI Sec of State Official Caught On Video Telling Volunteers To Count “Multiple Ballots with the very Same Signature” During “Audit” Of Votes In Antrim County; 12/18/20, 5:47 PM
YoungHegelian said...: If only Solarwinds had the advice of a good IT systems security firm...

Although I gotta admit, this may be one of those things to file under “Too Good To Be True”. But, if true, oy gevalt, as we used to say back home in Alabama!; 12/18/20, 5:57 PM
Rory said...: Tonight on our classic subchannels:

Andy Griffith: the Darlings come to Mayberry
Gomer Pyle: Gomer and the Sarge take survival training together
Star Trek: a big cigar floats through the galaxy and eats planets; 12/18/20, 6:04 PM
Achilles said...: Readering said...

Idiotic.

I agree.

Corrupt insistence that Americans accept this obvious sham of an election is just guaranteeing violence.; 12/18/20, 6:18 PM
Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...: Former Epstein associate Jean-Luc Brunel's arrest in Paris brings "tears of joy" for alleged victims

Jean-Luc Brunel didnt kill himself; 12/18/20, 6:18 PM
Hey Skipper said...: Robert Cook: Many states have issued recommendations and/or implemented temporary restrictions regarding certain types of public activities and behaviors to try to hinder the spread of COVID-19.

Incorporation would like a word.; 12/18/20, 6:19 PM
J. Farmer said...: I just saw a pic of Ivanka with hubby and kids. She posted something in re Hanukkah otherwise I would not be aware.

The Kushners are okay with being sleazy real estate developers but draw the line at their son marrying a gentile. I wonder if Ivanka was as public with her Presbyterianism as she is with her Judaism. I bet Seryl still has her on probation. Can you imagine the uproar if the roles had been reversed, and Trump adamantly objected to his daughter dating a Jew or demanded that Jared convert to Christianity?; 12/18/20, 6:19 PM
I Have Misplaced My Pants said...: Mr. Pants just texted me pics of John Roberts snuggling with Ghislane Maxwell, presumably on Pedo Island 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Evidently they dropped today in connection to the Virginia case.

If genuine, how were they ever allowed to see the light of day?; 12/18/20, 6:26 PM
Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...: Democracy Dies In Transparency!!

From the guy who argues in court that the voting machines shouldn’t be examined, ballot envelopes & signatures should be hidden and poll watchers and the public should be kept in the dark.

per @marceelias
·
"The GOP’s continued bad faith attacks on voting rights don’t just hurt Democratic voters, they hurt everyone. And we would all be better off rejecting these attacks for what they are: an assault on the most vulnerable communities across the country."; 12/18/20, 6:27 PM
Oh Yea said...: I know this more of Instapundent territory but this can’t wait for him to put up his open forum.

BREAKING: Vice President Mike Pence announces that uniformed members of the U.S. Space Force will be called Guardians. Threre you have it: Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, Marines and Guardians

https://twitter.com/spaceforcedod/status/1340054052894326785?s=21; 12/18/20, 6:36 PM
Hey Skipper said...: This is from the NYT evening briefing.

6. An internal Times review found that “Caliphate,” an award-winning podcast that sought to shed light on the Islamic State terrorist group, did not meet the standards for Times journalism.

Wait. What. The NYT has standards?; 12/18/20, 6:44 PM
Narr said...: "Guardians" sucks.

Narr
Don't we already have Coast Guardians?; 12/18/20, 6:45 PM
Qwinn said...: Narr, the same occurred to me.

Kinda fits though. You can think of space as another coast.; 12/18/20, 6:46 PM
Qwinn said...: And I fucking fucking repeat:

MI Sec of State Official Caught On Video Telling Volunteers To Count “Multiple Ballots with the very Same Signature” During “Audit” Of Votes In Antrim County

This is the ultimate authority that the lefties AND the judges have relied on to assure us that there was no fraud.

THIS is the exact authority to which every appeal has been made.

Caught on video. Suborning voter fraud from volunteers.

It is violent gaslighting to continue to act as if we've got nothing.

You either see the mountain, or you are complicit, or you are the most gullible fucking sheep in the universe, but always always smug in your superiority that you're the only non-sheep in every room.; 12/18/20, 6:52 PM
Qwinn said...: "Human error."; 12/18/20, 6:54 PM
Mr. Majestyk said...: If the House Democrats can refuse to seat the Republican who is the certified winner in Iowa's 2nd Congressional district, as they seem sure to do, why can't the Republicans refuse to accept the certified electors for Joe Biden?; 12/18/20, 7:05 PM
Michael K said...: The Kushners are okay with being sleazy real estate developers but draw the line at their son marrying a gentile.

Wow. Nice to see the real Farmer emerging.

No doubt you are also all in on blacks getting the vaccine before whites.; 12/18/20, 7:11 PM
Joe Smith said...: "Wow. Nice to see the real Farmer emerging."

Typical lefty Democrat Jew-hating position.

He's got a lot of company unfortunately.

Next thing you know he'll tell us he has a lot of Jewish friends : ); 12/18/20, 7:15 PM
Mr. Majestyk said...: The Republican state legislatures in the six swing states have been a huge disappointment. I get it that they would be wary of being accused of ignoring the will of the people. But why couldn't they have said to the governors in their states: "Either you agree to a full audit of the results, including a forensic review of the voting machines, an investigation into possible voting by dead people etc, and signature matching of absentee ballots, all under close supervision by Republican observers, or we will certify Trump's slate of electors"?; 12/18/20, 7:18 PM
Qwinn said...: "I get it that they would be wary of being accused of ignoring the will of the people."

It doesn't matter even if voter fraud flipped the election! The people have spoken!

"But why couldn't they have said "

70 years of systematic and total institutional infiltration, with no mechanisms or culture in place effective to resist it.; 12/18/20, 7:22 PM
I'm Not Sure said...: "The Republican state legislatures in the six swing states have been a huge disappointment."

It's more understandable when you realize they are politicians and have more in common with Democrats than with Trump, who is not.; 12/18/20, 7:23 PM
Qwinn said...: Always count the number of lawyers.; 12/18/20, 7:26 PM
J. Farmer said...: BREAKING: Vice President Mike Pence announces that uniformed members of the U.S. Space Force will be called Guardians. Threre you have it: Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, Marines and Guardians

Just what we need. Another defense industry boondoggle to overhype threats and demand expensive new weapon systems on top of an already absurdly bloated Pentagon budget. We spent over $12 trillion on the military since 9/11, and it's bought us more problems than it solved.; 12/18/20, 7:27 PM
J. Farmer said...: @Michael K:

No doubt you are also all in on blacks getting the vaccine before whites.

Because I pointed out that the Kushners objected to their son marrying a non-Jew?; 12/18/20, 7:30 PM
Inga said...: “2 federal judges in GA reject GOP lawsuits aimed at voter suppression.”

Not tired of all the winning.; 12/18/20, 7:32 PM
Qwinn said...: Now if they'd objected to their son marrying an Iranian, there's your casus belli right there.; 12/18/20, 7:33 PM
J. Farmer said...: @Joe Henry:

Typical lefty Democrat Jew-hating position.

(1) I'm not a lefty, (2) I'm not a Democrat, (3) I have no personal feelings--good, bad, or indifferent--about ethnic groups. People's moral worth is not determined by their group affiliation but by their individual character. (4) As usual, Republicans start sounding like social justice warriors whenever the subject is Jews, (5) Pointing out that Jared Kushner's parents objected to him marrying a non-Jew is Jew-hating?; 12/18/20, 7:39 PM
J. Farmer said...: Now if they'd objected to their son marrying an Iranian, there's your casus belli right there.

I think you just like to say "casus belli."; 12/18/20, 7:40 PM
Qwinn said...: There's a nice patch of Kentucky Bluegrass right over there, Farmer. Don't get your wool all in a bunch.; 12/18/20, 7:49 PM
mockturtle said...: YH posts link @5:57PM "If only Solarwinds had the advice of a good IT systems security firm..."

Hilarious!; 12/18/20, 7:55 PM
Joe Smith said...: "(1) I'm not a lefty..."

One strike and you're out.; 12/18/20, 8:05 PM
chuck said...: Wait. What. The NYT has standards?

They do indeed, don't get caught.; 12/18/20, 8:15 PM
effinayright said...: Yancey Ward said...
"The Terminator" is a truly great film- holds up really well even 36 years later. I saw at The Kentucky Theater in Lexington, KY several times in the Fall of 1984 during my freshman year in college- all of my friends were fanatics for the movie, too.
*********

'don't know if anyone's mentioned it, but when I first saw "The Terminator" I got a good laugh out of Arnold's robot character repairing his damaged eye in front of a mirror, and them primping his hair for a second or two before turning away from it.

heh; 12/18/20, 8:18 PM
Narr said...: I'm not a fan of Christmas music in general, but what I really tire of are the clever renditions of things like "Frosty the Snowman" in the style of Mozart, or "Jingle Bells" a al Bach.

Our NPR affiliate normally plays a good selection of "classical" music but they go way overboard during the holidays with this kind of fun, kicky stuff. I'd prefer droning snobs to the happytalk that has become the mode there.

Narr
Bah!; 12/18/20, 8:23 PM
Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...: Was Beethoven black?’
In any normal society, the answer would be no,
but we no longer live in a normal society. — RT Op-ed

one 1814 etching of Beethoven depicts him with a dark complexion, and rumors of a Moorish ancestor fueled speculation that if he wasn’t outright black, Beethoven may have been a bit less white than previously thought.

By the time civil rights activists in the US caught wind of this, all subtlety went out the window. “Beethoven was as black as you and I,” campaigner Stokely Carmichael told a crowd in Seattle in the 1960s, “but they don’t tell us that.” Rolling Stone magazine even ran a story in 1969 declaring “Beethoven was black and proud!”

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/510143-beethoven-birthday-250-black/

Roll Over Beethoven

...but what if he was gay?
Could he be portrayed by a straight, black actor?; 12/18/20, 8:24 PM
WK said...: I was told there would be no death panels. Apparently we have ended up with racist death panels.; 12/18/20, 8:25 PM
WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...: I love ivanka and Jared.; 12/18/20, 8:30 PM
WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...: Inga is thrilled. fill the swamp! fill the swamp!; 12/18/20, 8:31 PM
Achilles said...: Ok. These people re just ghouls.

Grafting aborted baby scalps to rats.

Seriously this is a real mistake.; 12/18/20, 8:39 PM
J. Farmer said...: @wholelottasplainin':

'don't know if anyone's mentioned it, but when I first saw "The Terminator" I got a good laugh out of Arnold's robot character repairing his damaged eye in front of a mirror, and them primping his hair for a second or two before turning away from it.

Ha. I think they did that so they could have a cutaway shot from the mannequin back to Arnold. I don't know how it played at the time, but it was probably the worst practical effect in the film.

For me, the funniest line was at the gun store when Arnold asked for "da oozie nein meelimetah." I'm also pretty sure Terminator was the first film to feature the legendary Franchi SPAS-12 shotgun. It's since been featured in tons of movies, probably most famously in the Jurassic Park "clever girl" scene.; 12/18/20, 8:43 PM
narciso said...: Well the plasma rifle in the 40 watt tange wasnt available; 12/18/20, 8:45 PM
Achilles said...: Joe Smith said...

"(1) I'm not a lefty..."

One strike and you're out.

Lefty and righty and conservative and liberal and socialist are all just nonsense words in current context.

They are labels people are using to dismiss and ignore.; 12/18/20, 8:46 PM
J. Farmer said...: There's a nice patch of Kentucky Bluegrass right over there, Farmer. Don't get your wool all in a bunch.

Not to worry. I don't take you seriously.; 12/18/20, 8:47 PM
J. Farmer said...: @Achilles:

Lefty and righty and conservative and liberal and socialist are all just nonsense words in current context.

They are labels people are using to dismiss and ignore.

Completely agree. If anything, the terminology helps elite interests by keeping non-elites divided. While the hoi polloi are busy shouting "communist" and "fascist" at each other, the elite are laughing all the way to the bank.; 12/18/20, 8:51 PM
WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...: We used words and labels to describe things.

including the label "elite" .; 12/18/20, 9:24 PM
Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...: Dominion Voting Systems users vote for Biden OVER 5% MORE than all other methods, except for Hart Intercivic voting machines, where he overperforms 6%
This Dominion advantage was observed regardless of the county's majority political party affiliation nor urban, suburban, or rural-area demographics. Biden over-performed our estimates in “democratic strongholds” – by the same amount he over-performed in “Trump” counties."
per @kylenabecker; 12/18/20, 9:26 PM
narciso said...: The 100 million dead just in china and the soviet union, that was just about labels; 12/18/20, 9:28 PM
narciso said...: So was the million or so, in cambodia.; 12/18/20, 9:28 PM
WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...: OMG - Trump is such a creep!

*seething drooling rage* *seething drooling rage!*; 12/18/20, 9:29 PM
n.n said...: Grafting aborted baby scalps to rats.

Selective-child policy and cannibalized-child progress.; 12/18/20, 9:37 PM
William said...: I think Ivanka made a shrewd decision in marrying Jared. His religion was a feature and not a bug. Someone who keeps all those rules is significantly less likely to seek fulfillment or happiness with a younger woman during his later years. I would guess that her parents' divorce was the defining trauma of Ivanka's life and she wishes to avoid the same fate. I would vote her least likely of all the Trump children to get divorced. A small price to pay for giving up bacon and eggs for breakfast.; 12/18/20, 9:39 PM
J. Farmer said...: We used words and labels to describe things.

including the label "elite" .

Undoubtedly. But (1) some labels are more elastic than others, and (2) there's a difference between using a term in an attempt to describe someone's point-of-view versus using it for opprobrium. In Milton Friedman's autobiography, he describes a meeting of the Mont Pelerin Society, a free market think tank founded by Friedrich Hayek, in which during a debate Ludwig von Mises became frustrated, shouted "you're all a bunch of socialists," and stormed out of the room.; 12/18/20, 9:40 PM
WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...: Tonight on Tucker. Thoughts on the vaccine.; 12/18/20, 9:42 PM
Big Mike said...: A small price to pay for giving up bacon and eggs for breakfast.

It's losing the ham and cheese sandwiches for lunch that sucks.; 12/18/20, 9:47 PM
J. Farmer said...: @William:

I think Ivanka made a shrewd decision in marrying Jared. His religion was a feature and not a bug

Even if true, that wouldn't require Ivanka's conversion or the intervention of Jared's parents. in any event, converting religions for the purpose of marriage is not that uncommon of an occurrence. What I find interesting is the double standard. If Christian parents forbade their their child from marrying a Jew or demanded that a Jew convert, they'd be considered bigots and anti-Semites. But nobody bats an eye when it's in the other direction. I think part of the reason has less to do with Judaism as a religion and more to do with Judaism as an ethnic group. Jews are famously endogamous and ethnocentric.; 12/18/20, 9:52 PM
William said...: On You Tube, there's a 1970 Russian production of King Lear. It's quite impressive. I never heard of the director but the score is by Shostakovich and Pasternak did the translation. It's not that important who translates it to Russian, but Pasternak eliminated some scenes and keeps things moving along swiftly. The movie is filmed with a Marxist bias, but, in this case, it works. There are masses of maimed and emaciated peasants who get further maimed and emaciated as the King and his daughters pursue their vanity and quarrels. So score one for Social Realism....The film is shot in black and white. If you want to show Mother Nature is not your friend, you can't beat Mother Russia. The crack your cheeks and howl scene is truly harrowing. Also Russian castles look both unfinished and decaying which helps to visualize Lear's plight....I'm not saying the movie is as entertaining as The Terminator, but if you like Shakespeare, this is one of the better realizations of his work. This movie has been around for fifty years and deserves to be better known.; 12/18/20, 9:55 PM
J. Farmer said...: It's losing the ham and cheese sandwiches for lunch that sucks.

Historically, losing the foreskin was the deal breaker for men. That's why most Jewish converts were female and why the genes of the Y-chromosome of Jews globally are similar to each other and to other middle eastern people, like Syrians and Palestinians.; 12/18/20, 9:57 PM
gadfly said...: Jared Kushner And Trump stole $617 million from Trump campaign funds. Funds were laundered through a shell company named American Made Media Consultants.

The Trump family violated campaign finance laws by creating the shell company, and then paying themselves funds that were not disclosed. The Trump campaign was a con, and all of those red-hat-wearing believers who donating money were lining Trump’s pockets. Can you say "Organized Crime?"

https://www.politicususa.com/2020/12/18/jared-kushner-and-trump-basically-stole-617-million-of-trump-campaign-funds.html; 12/18/20, 9:58 PM
William said...: My mother's grandfather was a German Jew. I don't know his backstory, but he became non-Jewish and moved to America. In the nineteenth century, a lot of German Jews became conversos. It was just easier to navigate life that way. Disraeli converted from being a non-practicing Jew to becoming a non-practicing Anglican....He married a woman of the Anglican faith in an Anglican ceremony. People adjust their behavior to fit the mores and tempores in which they live.; 12/18/20, 10:01 PM
narciso said...: Some stills here

https://moviessansfrontiers.blogspot.com/2008/05/64-russian-director-grigory-kozintsevs.html?m=1; 12/18/20, 10:02 PM
effinayright said...: I Have Misplaced My Pants said...
Mr. Pants just texted me pics of John Roberts snuggling with Ghislane Maxwell, presumably on Pedo Island 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Evidently they dropped today in connection to the Virginia case.

If genuine, how were they ever allowed to see the light of day?
*******************
You answered your own question. Look at this, and tell me that guy is really John Roberts:

https://brutalproof.net/2020/12/chief-justice-roberts-with-ghislaine-maxwell-child-pimp/

bzzzztttt; 12/18/20, 10:11 PM
Bunkypotatohead said...: "No doubt you are also all in on blacks getting the vaccine before whites.

Well, we are going to need some guinea pigs.; 12/18/20, 10:12 PM
J. Farmer said...: @William:

People adjust their behavior to fit the mores and tempores in which they live.

I agree, but I think that's a truism. I think one distinction is that Jews have designated victim group status in this country and are afforded certain double standards. For example, black parents who wanted their child to marry another black person would not be received as negatively as white parents wanting their child to marry another white person. This requires a bit of jujitsu, though, since Jews on average outperform white gentiles across social indicators and play a very outsized role in the culture.; 12/18/20, 10:20 PM
Freeman Hunt said...: A thought: Zoom is something of a looks equalizer. Super attractive people look less attractive and super homely people look less homely. This may have benefits for both groups in many contexts.; 12/18/20, 10:22 PM
Laslo Spatula said...: "A thought: Zoom is something of a looks equalizer. Super attractive people look less attractive and super homely people look less homely."

Save this space for a Toobin joke to be added later.

I am Laslo.; 12/18/20, 10:40 PM
Sprezzatura said...: “It's losing the ham and cheese sandwiches for lunch that sucks.”

If Walker had won instead of DJT, the new stimulus thing (or whatever it actually is) that is being debated wouldn’t be about kicking back hundreds of dollars to normal citizens, it’d be about twenty free ham sandwiches and a $35 voucher for Kohl’s (which is enough to buy all of your clothes for ten years, with coupons.)

Natch.; 12/18/20, 10:43 PM
narciso said...: What a dumpsterfire

https://mobile.twitter.com/BillFOXLA/status/1340131088685879296; 12/18/20, 10:50 PM
Joe Smith said...: "We used words and labels to describe things."

Exactly.

Lefty Farmer must live in Hawaii...he's in full-on Cliff Claven mode.; 12/18/20, 10:50 PM
walter said...: Boy..some harbor some largely irrelevant Walker hate.
Probably WEAC members.; 12/18/20, 10:53 PM
walter said...: (The few, the proud); 12/18/20, 10:53 PM
Narr said...: Seems to be race tonight. One of my former colleagues and his wife have two sons; they are devout Episcopalians and about as liberal as you would expect in the academic library milieu,
but he surprised even me once with a rather wistful remark to the effect that he hoped one of the boys might marry a black woman. I thought that was a little . . . culty?

As to Black Beethoven, it's better than that. It's easy to make the argument that he may have had "Moorish" blood--the Spanish used troops from Iberia and even Africa in some of the armies they sent up the Spanish Road during their eighty-year struggle against the Dutch Protestant rebels; a German proverb holds that 'Africa begins at the Pyrenees.' Lots of time and opportunity for intermixing in the Low Countries in that context.

Anyway, back in the early 70s our campus Black Student Union paper ran a little item called "Great African Americans." They used Beethoven as an example--not only Black, but African-American!

Narr
That seemed like a stretch; 12/18/20, 10:54 PM
cf said...: a favor, althouse, or a fellow traveler.
I was looking for that post where everyone was contributing their list of why they liked Trump.
Darn if I can find it easily.
There were some good ones in there.

Ms. Althouse, might you be able to point that post out for me ? or someone else?

I can use them like flashcards for my memory, and triumphant banners flying in my 40-day Trump Parade. day 8 today.

Individual Freedom. that is key.; 12/18/20, 10:58 PM
J. Farmer said...: @Joe Henry:

Exactly.

Wow. Yes, people use "words and labels to describe things." And they also use vague labels to mischaracterize things. Otherwise, all accusations would be accurate.

Lefty Farmer must live in Hawaii...he's in full-on Cliff Claven mode.

2+2=4 even if a "lefty" says it does. I get that caricature and cliché make it easier for simpletons to make sense of the world but certainly you can do better than this. Give it a shot. I have faith in you. Besides, it'll be a good little character builder for you.; 12/18/20, 11:04 PM
narciso said...: Seriously you have that dessicated zombie evers who is killing off any remaining businesses that the rioters didnt trash and you're talking about walker, lol; 12/18/20, 11:07 PM
Qwinn said...: Farmer, who is absolutely not a leftist. thinks that the leftist political ideology that killed over 100 million people in the 20th century is absolutely harmless and anyone who sees a threat from communism is a moron who cannot be taken seriously. Resisting communism in any way is tilting at windmills. And EVEN IF the election was stolen by fraud with help from the Chinese, and their puppet is installed in the white house, that's nothing to get pissy about. because you know, America has done it to other countries too!

Which is exactly what Robert Cook says to any similar question.

Never mind that virtually every case of Americans interfering in other elections, when not just some relic of Soviet propaganda bullshit, was tracable to entrenched leftist bureaucrats in intelligence agencies operating at the behest of Democrat Presidents.

So we shouldn't object to Democrats stealing our election with China's aid because Democrats previously stole elections in other countries.

Is Farmer a leftist? Who knows? With reasoning skills and serf like temperament like his, though, what practical difference would it make?; 12/18/20, 11:18 PM
J. Farmer said...: As to Black Beethoven, it's better than that. It's easy to make the argument that he may have had "Moorish" blood

But contrary to what Dennis Hopper claimed, Moors were not sub-Saharan African. The majority of Berber ancestry comes from the Near East, with only a small amount coming from sub-Saharan Africans, typically showing a north-south gradient.; 12/18/20, 11:22 PM
Joe Smith said...: "As to Black Beethoven..."

That's right up there with 'The Egyptians invented airplanes and rockets in 2,000 BC.'

It's some serious Farrakhan grade-A bullshit.; 12/18/20, 11:22 PM
Sprezzatura said...: “Boy..some harbor some largely irrelevant Walker hate.”

FTR, even before your comment I realized that I’m a broken person because sometimes when I hear about a ham sandwich I think about Walker and his claim that he’s eaten two of them for lunch ever since he was a zygote (or something like that).

That opens the door to remembering his Kohl’s bargain shopping. Then it’s a small jump to him looking like a total dork on a motorcycle. After that I remember him claiming that he should be POTUS otherwise terrorists would kill you and your family. I also think about him trying to make it harder for urban minorities and others to cast votes (which seems quite shitty). Of course it’s also hard to forget the Foxconn con in WI.

Anywho, that guy is a total and complete disaster. But, Meadehouse couldn’t (can’t?) see it. Ouch! IMHO.; 12/18/20, 11:25 PM
walter said...: Yeah..that ham sandwich-gate was unforgivable.
So you re pubic sector, perhaps WEAC.
Cool.; 12/18/20, 11:30 PM
J. Farmer said...: @Qwinn:

Is Farmer a leftist? Who knows? With reasoning skills and serf like temperament like his, though, what practical difference would it make?

If you actually believe that's a fair summation of views, you're a fucking idiot. If you don't, you're a fucking liar. Despite this, I do admit to being amused by you. It's especially hilarious being accused of having a "serf like temperament" by a Trump fanboy in the middle of a nervous breakdown. But hey, I'm sure your hundreds of Blogger comments is a real pushback against the establishment.; 12/18/20, 11:33 PM
walter said...: Farmer is a libertrightatarian with a fatalist mindset.
You're welcome.; 12/18/20, 11:38 PM
Qwinn said...: Do you need me to quote your response woed.for word last night, which ai think I was actually rather generous in describing there with less derision and contempt than it deserved?; 12/18/20, 11:39 PM
Qwinn said...: Faemer is absolutely part of the "let's ignore all evidence of fraud no matter how absolute, and mock every right winger in ways designed to drive them to violence, and oh, by the way, defend Iran and China in every circumstance to the point of drooling sycophancy" club.

If he's not being paid by Iran or China, he's absolutely being ripped off. Same as all the other lefties here.; 12/18/20, 11:44 PM
William said...: Anti-semitism is not such a big deal in America. It's not on the fault line in the way race is. It's more like a dry river bed. It's a fine place to live during the dry years, but when the floods come, the Jews are screwed... From what I've read, the German Jews in Bismarck's Germany had a higher intermarriage rate than we currently have here in America, but then the floods came. WWI and the aftermath were the flood. I don't think anyone can reasonably blame the Jews for WWI or the aftermath, but that's the way it goes....I recently watched The Merchant of Venice. Shakespeare gives Shylock some good lines, but the thrust of the play is anti-semitic. If Shakespeare can be anit-Semitic, what are the chances that you might be also.....I'm sure I have all sorts of racist, sexist, and anti-Semitic impulses, but I don't think I ever acted on them, but, of course, others might draw different conclusions....Here's something I got from Shakespeare's play. Resentment can be just as powerful and malicious a force as bigotry. A pound of flesh is not just recompense for past wrongs.; 12/18/20, 11:47 PM
Sprezzatura said...: Walt,

I didn’t know what WEAC was when you first typed it here. But after the second time, I used the google machine.

Now that I know that refers to teacher unions, I remember another indicator re Walker is a POS. It’s ok for cops to influence the politicians who pay them. But don’t let the teachers run wild. The teachers could end up w/ more in their paychecks w/o oversight, or they may teach your kids that the world wasn’t created in seven days or that trans people aren’t mentally ill etc. The cops can only turn a blind eye to folks who could harm/kill you. Or the cops could harm/kill you themselves if they’re scared or crooked. So why bother w/ oversight w/ them, according to Walker et. al.?

P.S. You really are into fussing about the WEAC. That’s interesting. And cool. IMHO.; 12/18/20, 11:48 PM
Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...: after all those WWII movies, maybe I can be Secretary of Defense, eh?

Pete Buttigieg, President-elect Biden's pick for transportation secretary, said he has "a personal love of transportation," recounting train trips on Amtrak while in college, and said he proposed to his now-husband, Chasten, in an airport terminal.

He says airports are romantic

Maybe Chasten worked for the TSA, and it was love at first sight for Pete
as Chasten patted down his 'suspicious package'; 12/18/20, 11:49 PM
J. Farmer said...: Do you need me to quote your response woed.for word last night, which ai think I was actually rather generous in describing there with less derision and contempt than it deserved?

Oh yes, by all means, quote word for word where I said that a "political ideology that killed over 100 million people in the 20th century is absolutely harmless" and "anyone who sees a threat from communism is a moron" and "resisting communism in any way is tilting at windmills" and "nothing to get pissy about. because you know, America has done it to other countries too."

Again, if you think any of this nonsense reflects my thinking on the subject, then you have serious reading comprehension problems.; 12/18/20, 11:51 PM
Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...: FFS-- could somebody please drop an anvil on these people

Cartoon Network Promotes The ‘Many Gender Identities’ Kids Can Partake In https://dailycaller.com/2020/12/16/cartoon-network-promotes-many-gender-identities-kids-can-partake-in/; 12/18/20, 11:52 PM
narciso said...: It took a very small group of bolsheviks to take over russia, i blame kerensky but pr unleashing kornilov, mao might have been a larger cadre but not by much, the khmer rouge the same they had the mindset that bernie bros did and the will to do something about it; 12/18/20, 11:57 PM
Sprezzatura said...: “He says airports are romantic”

When going commercial, I’ve hooked up (though not in the airport or on the plane) w/ five gals (a mix of airport bar banter and (most of the times) on-flight blather sparks the romance). Maybe I’m an outlier because lotsa gals want to hook up w/ me in all contexts everywhere (not to brag: just facts). But, I don’t always feel the same re me giving the D. So I think there’s a statistically higher likely hood of finding F-able (IMHO) people in airports v just wandering around in the world.

I dunno.; 12/19/20, 12:00 AM
J. Farmer said...: @walter:

Farmer is a libertrightatarian with a fatalist mindset.
You're welcome.

Err. Try again. In fact, you don't even have to try. It's not like it's some myster. I've talked about my politics in this space for years. They're nationalist, skeptical of neoliberalism and globalization, and most closely typified by Pat Buchanan's "America First" primary challenge to George H.W. Bush in 1992. Today, they're mostly associated with the views expressed in alternative media like Peter Brimelow's V Dare, Taki's Magazine, The American Conservative, and the writings of people like Steve Sailer and John Derbyshire. Put most concisely, I'm socially conservative and economically liberal. Ultimately, my views are grounded in a critique of 19th century liberalism.; 12/19/20, 12:01 AM
Qwinn said...: Sure thing, Farmer!

Let's start with my paraphrase as: "nothing to get pissy about. because you know, America has done it to other countries too."

Me, last night:

Just pretend that's true (it is, but I get that admitting that would reduce your sneering options). Would that suffice as a causus belli for you?

Farmer, last night:

Absolutely not. That would be insane. First, numerous countries try to interfere in our elections, including Saudi Arabia, Israel, and the UAE. Second, the US interferes in other countries’ elections on a massive scale to say nothing of the fact that it covertly overthrows governments and financially and politically
supports authoritarian governments to insure the suppression of democratic forces.; 12/19/20, 12:03 AM
Qwinn said...: Robert Cook couldn't have said it any better.; 12/19/20, 12:04 AM
J. Farmer said...: @William:

Anti-semitism is not such a big deal in America.

Except for black teens and the Hasidic In NYC, I think this is mostly true. Anti-gentilism, though, is another matter. Antipathy towards the straight white Christian male is the glue that holds America's various designated victim groups together. Seeing the deplorables as the source of all the ills of the modern world is the narrative. America is trying to be a nation-state without a nation.; 12/19/20, 12:06 AM
Qwinn said...: And how about my paraphrases "anyone who sees a threat from communism is a moron" and "the political ideology that killed over 100 million people in the 20th century is absolutely harmless"?

Farmer, last night:

Have you read Flynn's book The Field of Flight? His choice of Michael Ledeen, a neocon fanatic, as co-author already raises concerns about his judgment. The week the book was published, Flynn wrote an article for the New York Post to help promote it. In it, he claimed: "We’re in a global war, facing an enemy alliance that runs from Pyongyang, North Korea, to Havana, Cuba, and Caracas, Venezuela. Along the way, the alliance picks up radical Muslim countries and organizations such as Iran, al Qaeda, the Taliban and Islamic State. That’s a formidable coalition, and nobody should be shocked to discover that we are losing the war."

No such alliance exists, and even if it did, it would most certainly not be "formidable."; 12/19/20, 12:08 AM
narciso said...: I guess this credits the director more than the writer.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SgYdB5f35T8; 12/19/20, 12:09 AM
J. Farmer said...: @Qwinn:

Let's start with my paraphrase as: "nothing to get pissy about. because you know, America has done it to other countries too."

Not being a casus belli =/= "nothing to get pissy about," dipshit.

Swing and a miss. Next.

Robert Cook couldn't have said it any better.

I guarantee you Cook is not socially conservative and ethno-nationalist in his politics. There's a reason people don't consider Pat Buchanan on the "far left."; 12/19/20, 12:11 AM
walter said...: Farmer,
Your fatalist element is the foremost.
But how does "libertrightatarian" actually deviate from your typical more than expected overly specific objection?; 12/19/20, 12:12 AM
Qwinn said...: Farmer, last night:

I don't know about lunatic, but Flynn certainly has a very warped worldview.; 12/19/20, 12:12 AM
Sprezzatura said...: Speaking of anti-semitism,

What happened to Cedarford?

A sock puppet that became boring for the puppeteer?

Or a legit loon who flamed out?

I dunno.; 12/19/20, 12:14 AM
Qwinn said...: Oh. So you have some response to election theft planting a puppet in the white house OTHER than war, Farmer?

Awesome. Tell us, since the ballot box is clearly corrupted in this scenario, and social and mainstream media have gone full Stasi on the soap box, and the jury box doesn't even get filled in any fraud litigation, what's left besides the ammo box? This should be good.; 12/19/20, 12:15 AM
J. Farmer said...: Your paraphrase: "anyone who sees a threat from communism is a moron" and "the political ideology that killed over 100 million people in the 20th century is absolutely harmless"?

What I actually said about a specific claim made by Michael Flynn: "No such alliance exists, and even if it did, it would most certainly not be "formidable."

It's kind of sad that you actually think this helps your case. Try to put your thinking cap on and figure out the substantive difference in those two statements.; 12/19/20, 12:17 AM
Qwinn said...: You brought up that we can't wage war on China because they are a nuclear power.

China has been a nuclear power for a long time. What kept that nuclear power from being used? MADD. Same as with everyone else.

Would fighting a conventional war with them eliminate MADD? No.

Does their having a puppet in the White House, with hundreds of other puppets supporting him in all 3 branches of goverment, eliminate MADD? Of course it fucking does.

People who can't see that *really* shouldn't call other people morons.; 12/19/20, 12:18 AM
Qwinn said...: Damnit, how did MAD get consistently spell checked to MADD? Because I capitalized it? Weird. No I'm not talking about Mothers Against Drunk Drivers.; 12/19/20, 12:19 AM
Qwinn said...: "Certainly not formidable" is substantially distinguishable from "harmless"? Really? That's what you're going with?; 12/19/20, 12:21 AM
J. Farmer said...: @Qwinn:

Oh. So you have some response to election theft planting a puppet in the white house OTHER than war, Farmer?

I was responding to a hypothetical you gave me. Remember prefacing it with "just pretend that's true"? That's what I did. I pretended. I don't believe in your deluded fever dreams.; 12/19/20, 12:24 AM
narciso said...: Yes the kim dynast was supported by russia and china (the yongbyon reactor is the most direct evidence) they have worked with syria (how that reactor in 2007 got there) leading figures of the castro regume like general ochoa was involved in places as disparate as nicaragua and yemen.; 12/19/20, 12:25 AM
J. Farmer said...: "Certainly not formidable" is substantially distinguishable from "harmless"? Really? That's what you're going with?

Bingo! Do you understand what the word "formidable" means? If so, you should know right away that "not formidable" is not the same thing as "absolutely harmless." You left the absolutely off in your last quote, so you apparently have trouble even reproducing your own statements.

People who can't see that *really* shouldn't call other people morons.

So the solution to "having a puppet in the White House, with hundreds of other puppets supporting him in all 3 branches of goverment" is for the US to be destroyed in a nuclear confrontation with China? Oh yeah, you're a genius.; 12/19/20, 12:31 AM
Qwinn said...: "I was responding to a hypothetical you gave me. Remember prefacing it with "just pretend that's true"? That's what I did. I pretended. I don't believe in your deluded fever dreams. "

Yes, I presented it as a hypothetical because I know you can't let go of the delicious frisson you get from acting superior by wilfully ignoring mountains of evidence.

And under the terms of that hypothetical, you answered that no, it was not just cause for war. And yet when challenged, you can't come up with any other response. Tell me how that differs from, if the election was stolen, it's still "nothing to get pissy about".

And by the way, Farmer?

MI Sec of State Official Caught On Video Telling Volunteers To Count “Multiple Ballots with the very Same Signature” During “Audit” Of Votes In Antrim County

That's just tonight's boulder on top of the fucking mountain.

Go fuck yourself, you useless fuck. The leftists here are at least denying the theft because they're trying to attain power for themselves. You pretend there's no evidence just so you can preen as some deluded fucking superior intellect. May posterity forget you were our countrymen, you cowardly cunt.; 12/19/20, 12:31 AM
J. Farmer said...: Yes the kim dynast was supported by russia and china...

See if you can find "Russia and China" in Flynn's quote.; 12/19/20, 12:33 AM
Qwinn said...: Formidable: "causing you to have fear or respect for something or someone because that thing or person is large, powerful, or difficult: "

Not formidable - not deserving of fear or respect, because that thing or person is not large, powerful, or difficult.

In other words, FUCKING HARMLESS.; 12/19/20, 12:34 AM
Sprezzatura said...: How many years will it take before I can ask my AI to find the closest equivalent to the Althosue blog, but in China.

Sure they have restrictions and such, so it’d be harder to get away w/ POVs that don’t worship the CCP executive (which is the DJT equivalent for us). But that’s why this blog may have an equal in the CCP which AI could suss out.

Althouse walks on eggshells or turns a blind eye re being negative re DJT. But, she’s on a hair trigger to attack DJT’s perceived adversaries. Just like the CCP media does for the CCP government.

She should go back to deleting the comments from folks who disagree w/ DJT, then there’d be an easy alignment v CCP propaganda. Make it ez pz on AI.

IMHO.; 12/19/20, 12:34 AM
J. Farmer said...: May posterity forget you were our countrymen, you cowardly cunt.

Well, at least posterity will remember how you bravely stood up to this fraud by...(checks notes)....typing comments on the Internet. Whew, he's a tough guy!; 12/19/20, 12:37 AM
narciso said...: Communism didnt go away because russia stopped being its home, because its an ideology the left has been very successful pushing their ideology through institutiona at least the last 50 years till many have internalized the goals if not agree on the means to bring it about.; 12/19/20, 12:37 AM
Qwinn said...: Never mind. In the battle of freedom vs. tyranny, Farmer decides that freedom is just concerned with "delusional fever dreams".

My only regret is that, in fighting the election theft and attempting to save the country, we'll be unfortunately saving Farmer's useless cowardly fucking carcass. God knows he won't lift a fucking finger or put himself anywhere in harm's way or even just *refrain from attacking those trying to defend America*, because there's no power or evidence that can get him to admit he could be wrong or give up his lofty perch from which to sneer at us.

Die in a fire, you useless worm.; 12/19/20, 12:38 AM
Qwinn said...: Sorry, not entirely useless. Quite a useful idiot for the enemies of America.; 12/19/20, 12:41 AM
J. Farmer said...: In other words, FUCKING HARMLESS.

Is Venezuela formidable? No. Is Venezuela "absolutely harmless"? No. Were you absent the day they taught English at school?; 12/19/20, 12:41 AM
Qwinn said...: Would you respond in any way to their aggression? No. Is there any *practical* difference between the position that they are "absolutely harmless" or "certainly not formidable", if your response, absolutely fucking nothing, is the same?; 12/19/20, 12:43 AM
J. Farmer said...: Die in a fire, you useless worm.

Sure thing. And please let me know if you ever end up doing something besides typing comments on Blogger. I'd like the opportunity to laugh at that, too.; 12/19/20, 12:44 AM
narciso said...: It is the model of social transformation through elections rather than violent revolution, the former was too costly and labor intensive.; 12/19/20, 12:44 AM
Qwinn said...: "Sure thing. And please let me know if you ever end up doing something besides typing comments on Blogger. I'd like the opportunity to laugh at that, too."

Note Farmer's *fourth* obvious and deliberate attempt to goad people into actual violence.; 12/19/20, 12:45 AM
narciso said...: You lived downstream from the canbodian devouring (a term the romani used) and dont understand this.; 12/19/20, 12:46 AM
Qwinn said...: Which is utterly indistinguishable from the constant attempts to goad the victims of the theft into violence that every leftist on this board has been practicing for weeks.; 12/19/20, 12:47 AM
J. Farmer said...: s there any *practical* difference between the position that they are "absolutely harmless" or "certainly not formidable", if your response, absolutely fucking nothing, is the same?

Yes. It's the same thing as the difference between a great power and a crumbling, third-rate, third-world dictatorship. Germany or Russia or China are formidable powers. Venezuela is not.; 12/19/20, 12:47 AM
Qwinn said...: Venezuela created the election software and systems that were actually used in 30 states in this election, including every swing state.; 12/19/20, 12:50 AM
J. Farmer said...: Note Farmer's *fourth* obvious and deliberate attempt to goad people into actual violence.

Not goading you into anything. Just pointing out how full of blustering bullshit you are. In any event, your meltdown has ceased to be entertaining for the evening, so I'm going to retire. You keep shouting into the darkness, my friend. A little louder and I'll bet they'll even hear you in Beijing. Have a good evening.; 12/19/20, 12:52 AM
narciso said...: He'd be the kind, who would watch the firing squads of say tea partiers or trump supporters and would say too bad those are the breaks if you only demanded a universal income or single payer.; 12/19/20, 12:53 AM
Qwinn said...: "Yes. It's the same thing as the difference between a great power and a crumbling, third-rate, third-world dictatorship. Germany or Russia or China are formidable powers. Venezuela is not. "

Still not hearing anywhere in this under what conditions you would respond to an act of aggression from anyone, formidable or not.; 12/19/20, 12:54 AM
narciso said...: Until the bloc committee comes to your door, and he responds see here i was for many of the things you want i just wanted them for white people, others are too stupid to appreciate them; 12/19/20, 12:56 AM
Readering said...: Dogs on the internet.; 12/19/20, 12:59 AM
J. Farmer said...: Dogs on the internet.

I'd say the behavior is closer to cats than dogs ;); 12/19/20, 1:01 AM
Qwinn said...: I've explained several times now, for the record, why I (and reading other boards, pretty much ALL other Trump voters) aren't doing more than fighting the gaslighting until Trump has his chance to pull this out. As long as he's Commander in Chief, he's in a position to deal with it, and there's still a good chance this has been a massive rope-a-dope getting the traitors to self identify. More than a few whispers that a game-changer event is going to drop soon.

Of course, it's troubling in that we've already proven fraud ten times over by any reasonable standard that would be applied in the other direction. What more can be done to prove it than already has been? There is no kind of evidence even conceivable that we don't already have.

Fucking video of election officials, the most sacrosanct of authorities whose word we have been required to accept for 45 days now, suborning voter fraud in the middle of the *audit*, FFS

Believe me, in the face of gaslighting like this, you are going to shit yourself when you see what you've unleashed.; 12/19/20, 1:03 AM
Qwinn said...: BREAKING: Maricopa County Board of Supervisors Refuses to Comply With Subpoenas to Turn Over Dominion Voting Machines for Audit (VIDEO)

Defying legislative subpoenas is an actual *crime* in Arizona.

This is naturally the behavior of people with nothing to hide, and who want to assure people that the vote was legit.

You people couldn't be acting more like criminals, every single day, and you think you get to give yourselves the benefit of the doubt.

Go fuck yourselves.

No justice, no peace.; 12/19/20, 1:14 AM
readering said...: Quinn, he seems nice.; 12/19/20, 2:23 AM
Ken B said...: Farmer’s politics are simple, and he has explained them. They are essentially those of BLM with one word changed.

He hates America. That’s the important part. He wishes the south had won the civil war, would not have ratified the constitution, wants the country split into pieces, and despises Lincoln, Washington, Jefferson, Reagan. He might have a soft spot for Huey Long.; 12/19/20, 2:31 AM
J. Farmer said...: @Ken B:

Farmer’s politics are simple, and he has explained them. They are essentially those of BLM with one word changed.

Oh brother. Either I haven't explained them well enough, or you're extremely obtuse. Once more unto the breach, dear friends...

Ethno-nationalism has a very simple premise. Namely, that a nation and an ethnic group essentially define the same construct, a group identity between people based on shared heritage, language, and culture. It is not racial nationalism. Race is a function of biology. Ethnicity is a function of culture. An ethnic identity can be adopted; a racial identity cannot. When national boundaries enclose multi-ethnic peoples, the result tends to be less social cohesion and less cooperation. In short, diversity is not our strength. It's a source of division and conflict.

He hates America. That’s the important part.

That must be why I advocate America First nationalism instead of global cosmopolitanism? I love America for the same reason that Japanese love Japan or Swedes love Sweden. Because it's my home. What I hate is the American state, which is captured by elite interests and used to harm the nation while benefiting a minority of its citizens. That's the important part.

He wishes the south had won the civil war

I believe in the right of people to national self-determination. In other words, I believe that on occasion "in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another." I think I read that somewhere. Political unions you're not allowed to exist are called empires. And as a nationalist, I firmly oppose empire.

would not have ratified the constitution

Correct. I would have identified with the anti-federalists, whose concerns about the Constitution were largely vindicated by history: an abrogation of the rights of states, a centralized government too geographically detached from its constituencies, an out-of-control judiciary, an overly powerful president.

wants the country split into pieces

Most definitely. For all the reasons I just listed above.

Lincoln, Washington, Jefferson, Reagan

I don't have interpersonal feelings about historical feelings. As I said, I prefer Jefferson's anti-federalism to Washington's federalism. I disagree with Lincoln on the issue of secession. I strongly disagree with Reagan's embrace of itneoliberalism, which essentially set the stage for our current predicament. As I've said multiple times, the fusion of traditionalism and economic libertarianism, advanced by Frank Meyer, supported by the National Review, and ultimately realized by Reagan's 1980 electoral victory is self-defeating, though the tensions were mitigated at the time by the Cold War. Since the end of the Cold War, there have been several attempts to define a new global mission for the US, whether it's defending vague, abstract concepts like the "new world order" or "liberal international order" or opposing new "global" adversaries like Islamic jihad, Iran, China, or Russia. Nonetheless, the gravest threats to America come not from abroad but from within.; 12/19/20, 5:50 AM
WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...: GAdfly - your sources are very questionable. You realize that?

"appears to have violated campaign finance laws..."

uh huh.

&

The shell company — [..] allowed Trump’s campaign to skirt federally mandated disclosures. The tactic could attract scrutiny from federal election regulators.

Could! uh huh.

Do you actually read what you post? Garbage.; 12/19/20, 6:07 AM
WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...: Kamala Harris says she will be 'first in line' for a coronavirus vaccine if health experts approve it, but 'if Donald Trump tells us we should take it, then I'm not taking it'

what a freaking joke. Kamala.

"If Trump wants me to take a vaccine - I'm not taking it. waaaaaa"

This is our political class.; 12/19/20, 6:23 AM
Humperdink said...: Farmer said: "When national boundaries enclose multi-ethnic peoples, the result tends to be less social cohesion and less cooperation."

I think it worked it in the US for 190 years or so, right up until the 1960's. When the lefties started flexing the power in that decade, the wheels starting coming lose. Now that our "progressives" have complete control of the education system, the wheels have officially fallen off.

E Pluribus Unum is so yesterday.; 12/19/20, 6:35 AM
Kassaar said...: Today, I am outlining a new approach to equality in this country. This will be founded firmly on Conservative values. It will be about individual dignity and humanity not quotas and targets, or equality of outcome.
It will reject the approach taken by the Left captured as they are by identity politics and loud lobby groups.

- Liz Truss, British Trade Secretary; 12/19/20, 6:58 AM
Fernandinande said...: "a new approach to equality" ...Liz Truss, British Trade Secretary

It's the same old bullshit, but slightly milder and more convoluted:

"In that role, we will be holding our International LGBT conference, on the theme of Safe To Be Me." -- Liz Truss; 12/19/20, 7:38 AM
WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...: A not-so-loony look at 2020 election results in battleground states.; 12/19/20, 8:11 AM
J. Farmer said...: @Humperdink:

I think it worked it in the US for 190 years or so, right up until the 1960's

I disagree strongly with the notion that it ever "worked." The race issue was a problem at the drafting of the Constitution and throughout western expansion, culminating in Civil War, Reconstruction, and the Jim Crow era. Warfare with native tribes continued until the 1920s. Italian and Irish immigration caused many problems in the cities and led to the growth of the political machines. Numerous state and national laws were passed in the late 19th century to restrict Chinese immigration. Desegregation and voting rights for African-Americans completely changed the political landscape of the country right up to today.

One of the most interesting findings of Bob Putnam's diversity study was that increased ethnic diversity was not only correlated with lower trust among ethnic groups but also within ethnic groups. In other words, ethnic diversity has been a major driver of division among European-Americans.

E Pluribus Unum is so yesterday.

Recall, too, that that referred to the unification of the states, not the people.; 12/19/20, 8:17 AM
Humperdink said...: @Farmer:

A country as racially diverse as ours will have race issues. But I disagree that it hasn't worked. The US has is first on the scene, anywhere in the world, when a natural disaster strikes. How have we been able to this? One, because we became an economic juggernaut. The other and more importantly, we are are generous people. Other prosperous countries offer perfunctory contributions. Additionally, our poor people are among the richest in the world. To say it hasn't worked by focusing on the race issue is somewhat myopic.; 12/19/20, 9:27 AM
J. Farmer said...: @Humperdink:

To say it hasn't worked by focusing on the race issue is somewhat myopic.

We may be talking past each other. What exactly are you referring to by saying "it hasn't worked"? I mean, what is "it" and what does it mean "to work"? I don't deny that we are a wealthy and powerful nation, but the statement of mine you quoted was, "When national boundaries enclose multi-ethnic peoples, the result tends to be less social cohesion and less cooperation."

Not only did "race issues" result in America's most devastating war, they have twice (in the 1860s and 1960s) upended America's constitutional order. The political realignment in the south and even nationally on racial issues have had the effect of pushing Republicans to the right and Democrats to the left on cultural issues, and this has been a big contributor to political polarization and resentment-driven politics in this country. Neither are Neither are encouraging trends.

And when you look at the demographic projections for the next decade or so, it's hard to see a path towards reconciliation.; 12/19/20, 9:51 AM
Michael K said...: If Christian parents forbade their their child from marrying a Jew or demanded that a Jew convert, they'd be considered bigots and anti-Semites. But nobody bats an eye when it's in the other direction. I think part of the reason has less to do with Judaism as a religion and more to do with Judaism as an ethnic group. Jews are famously endogamous and ethnocentric.

I agree. When I was in high school, in Chicago, I and most of my friends had Jewish girlfriends. Their fathers often gave them tickets to baseball games and dating a Christian boy was a sort of forbidden fruit for them. We went through the phase of the nose jobs at 16 and black eyes for two weeks after. As we got to about age 18, most of that ended. The parents, especially the fathers, told the girls to drop those goyim boys. It was fun and none of us thought anything of it.; 12/19/20, 10:49 AM
Narr said...: Dennis Hopper, Farmer?

A "Moor" was whatever the people of the time and place thought a Moor was; there's enough genetic difference between the populations of the Western Mediterranean (the mix of Near Eastern, Berber, SSA, and Iberian, with some Italians joining the march north) and the populations of the Rhineland and Low Countries that people noticed, apparently.

IIRC, Marx was sometimes called The Moor also. It was a fairly common cultural trope, and my remark was to show a plausible route for genetic transfer, without any claim of proof or truth. The conflation of "moor" to "black" is interesting in itself.

I don't think anyone ever described LvB as looking like a Turk, which would have been the Significant Other in Germany and Austria in his times.

Narr
He did write "Turkish" music, part of the domestication of the old threat; 12/19/20, 11:09 AM
Robert Cook said...: "Well shazzam, that's true. Congress has made no laws against it, but people are being fined and /or jailed for exercising those rights, so we're cool right?"

No. But you can't blame Congress for whatever violation of your rights you feel you are experiencing. Look to your state and local politicians.; 12/19/20, 1:35 PM
Robert Cook said...: "Robert Cook- 'I have a book of his drawings, too.'

"What do you plan to do with your books, at the end?"

Good question. I have a lot of art books, a lot of hardcover collections of underground comix, (including the $500 boxed set of the Complete Zap Comix), and a lot of fiction. I have a pretty good collection of Philip K. Dick, including some that are fairly valuable.

I wouldn't them to just be dumped wholesale (no pun intended) for chump change, at least, not the art books and the more collectible books in my collection. I have to start thinking about what to do with them, (or what I want done with them if I die before I dispose of them somehow).

One thing: I may be moving in the future, and if I do, I will be taking at least two thirds to 75% of my books with me.; 12/19/20, 1:51 PM
Robert Cook said...: "I think it is funny that supposedly they are persona non grata in NYC except all the rich people are supposedly fleeing or have already fled that city so who is left to shun them?"

No, all the rich people aren't fleeing NYC. Some may be, and a good many affluent-but-less-than-rich are leaving. The rich are mostly just decamping to other homes they own elsewhere. They'll be back in town when things clear up.; 12/19/20, 1:59 PM
J. Farmer said...: @Narr:

Dennis Hopper, Farmer?

Just a joke about an infamous scene between Dennis Hopper and Christopher Walken in the film True Romance.; 12/19/20, 2:53 PM
doctrev said...: J. Farmer said...

Historically, losing the foreskin was the deal breaker for men. That's why most Jewish converts were female and why the genes of the Y-chromosome of Jews globally are similar to each other and to other middle eastern people, like Syrians and Palestinians.

12/18/20, 9:57 PM

Tendencies to slaughter the male population while enlisting the female population in "forced labor" probably affected conversion rates as well. Honestly, people opening the Bible and reading the first major story of mass conversion (hint: it was a feint to slaughter the enemy tribe) would look very skeptically upon the entire enterprise.; 12/19/20, 4:34 PM
Anonymous said...: Robert Cook - One thing: I may be moving in the future, and if I do, I will be taking at least two thirds to 75% of my books with me.

Thank you, Robert, for responding. I will be moving in the future, but I can't take any of the books with me. I figured you were a book guy, and despite your condescension about, 'dumped wholesale', I know the used-bookseller that I invited into my home, to take the things that had informed me in this world.

People walk into his shop and are drawn...to a book. It may be the same book I was drawn to. I wasn't thinking of money.

And so I address the Althouse commentariat. What will you do with your books. (not talking about comics and gay porn.) More in the nature of the 'Enchiridion' or the 'Gita".; 12/19/20, 4:34 PM
Narr said...: I have no idea what will become of my books, which reflect my interests more than my refined tastes and discerning eye. I have a few heirloom items (11th EB handy vol--I may take that to my grave) and a few other things of a little value, but few dealers would be that impressed.

I do have a few old maps that deserve good homes and long lives, collected in various places over many decades.

When I was special collections librarian, one of my tasks was review and selection of books from a lot of professors' personal collections. It was pretty rare that their accumulations enhanced the library's holdings substantially; sometimes some pretty useless piles were forced on us by politics and/or money factors.

There was only one that I really thought worthwhile--as it happens a history prof that I had a history of North Africa seminar with back in the early 80s. He died about 2010 or so and eventually his widow (also a prof, of literature) let the U (me) see what he had.

First, he was an Africanist and had a great collection of Africana. Really good. Next, he was a science fiction enthusiast and fanzine publisher. Finally, he had done some oral history interviews with teachers and principals of the public schools on the transition to busing for racial balance, which essentially drove the creation of classed and tiered public and private schools we enjoy now.

But Prof Widow was entertaining buck big notions that we could not meet and when I left in 2015 she was still dithering among suitors.

I still add to my book collection with $1 and $2 pickups at estate sales; a few times a year I'll spend $30-50 on a book or two at the store, likewise online.

Since I have had easy access to two million-or-so volume libraries most of life, purchase has been fairly limited.

These wargames, on the other hand. Actually I have only a few dozen maybe, not counting the first 100 or so issues of Strategy & Tactics with the magazine games. Some of my friends have hundreds. Hundreds.

Narr
And some of them are married to real women; 12/19/20, 5:15 PM
J. Farmer said...: @doctrev:

Tendencies to slaughter the male population while enlisting the female population in "forced labor" probably affected conversion rates as well.

I wasn't clear in my first comment, but I was referring to the Ashkenazi Jews who had settled along the Rhine River in France and Germany in the first millennium. Jews did not conquer populations outside of the Levant. And among the Ashkenazi, their patrilineal ancestry is primarily Levantine in origin while their matrilineal ancestry is primarily European.; 12/19/20, 5:25 PM
Anonymous said...: Books. They define us. My response so far has been Cook and Narr. Appreciated. Surely there are more book lovers on this blog. I've cut a 1,000 volume personal library down to 300. The 300 need a home. Federalist Papers. Anti Federalist Papers. The Zen of Motorcycle Maintenance. Do you know what your daughters will do with your treasures? Are they props to be discarded? Thrown in the trash?

Will they be tossed in a dumpster, as so much detritus? My local library won't accept
books donations now, because of the 'reset'.; 12/19/20, 5:36 PM
Robert Cook said...: "Books. They define us. My response so far has been Cook and Narr. Appreciated. Surely there are more book lovers on this blog. I've cut a 1,000 volume personal library down to 300. The 300 need a home. Federalist Papers. Anti Federalist Papers. The Zen of Motorcycle Maintenance. Do you know what your daughters will do with your treasures? Are they props to be discarded? Thrown in the trash?

"Will they be tossed in a dumpster, as so much detritus? My local library won't accept
books donations now, because of the 'reset'."

I take my love of books from my father, as well as his tendency to not throw things away. He had a garage piled high with boxes accumulated over decades, of magazines, newspapers, and, mostly, books that he had no additional room for in the house.

The Christmas after he died, my twin brother and I were both visiting from our respective out-of-town residences for the holidays, (my younger brother was there, too, he not having moved away from Jax, FL). Our mother asked us, as a "Christmas gift" to her, to clean out the garage, a task she had asked my father to do repeatedly, but which he never could bring himself to do. She hired a big iron dumpster from the city, (which they deposited in front of the house). I anticipated a long, tedious slog, as I assumed we would go through each box in turn to see what should be dumped and what we might want to keep. However, most of the boxes proved to be filled with cobwebs, dead bugs, and contents so molded or otherwise showing the ravages of age and the Florida climate that most of it could not be salvaged. We ended up dumping box after box into the dumpster, barely examining their contents. We did find a few boxes of paperbacks that were fairly pristine, as they had been placed in the garage in the last year or so prior. We pulled those aside, but everything else went. In the end, we literally shoveled the dregs left in the garage until it was empty.(We took the boxes of books we saved to a United Way thrift store.)

I thought about it later: my father's horde, his life's "treasures" that he could not part with, became garbage that we disposed of in just over three hours.; 12/19/20, 6:30 PM
Anonymous said...: Thank you Robert for sharing that. Cobwebs. When all is said in done, our souls escape this place, and leave...an iron dumpster to collect the cobwebs of our lives.

I hadn't thought of the thrift stores. I just hadn't thought of them. Thank you Robert.; 12/19/20, 6:52 PM
Anonymous said...: Thank you Robert for sharing that. You gave me the answer I was looking for. Thrift stores. I like to think that a man comes in to buy a used couch. There's a bookshelf filled with Romance Novels and pulp fiction, and then he is drawn to 'Illusions', or some such.

I don't really know why I chose to ask you in the first place, but when you opened your heart, the answer appeared. It always amazes me. Anyway, thanks Robert.; 12/19/20, 8:12 PM